Rooting Procedures Odin V.S. CWM Compared Pros and Cons - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I recently bought a new SG I9100. I have owned, rooted and flashed my old Samsung Galaxy Ace before and now I wanted to root my SG I9100 too. After reading all the guides available, most referred to flashing a custom kernel with odin. Unfortunately flashing with Odin increases the custom binary counter, which then has further implications, which I wanted to avoid.
In the following Post however: [Guide][CWM][Root][ICS] Universal proper rooting for most ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28178105&postcount=1
There is a way to root the device described as method 1, which is similiar to what I did to root my Galaxy Ace. That method adds root to the device without apparently increasing the custom binary download counter, exactly what I was looking for.
Now what I am wondering before I root my device is, why would someone use any other method to root his device than method 1?
If there is a method where you just have to copy two zip files to your SD Card and flash it, why would someone go the long way via Odin and insecure kernels etc. to root it's device with additionally increasing the custom binary download counter?
I am asking because most of the guides describe the complicated procedure via Odin and flashing a Kernel, while the Method 1 described in the post that I have linked to is much easier and has more benefits. But this procedure however is not so public. Most guides describe the Odin method. I was lucky that I have found that post, otherwise I would have rooted via odin and messed with the download counter.
Can anyone please explain why someone would root with Odin while you can do it with the CWM method?
Thanks!

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How do i root my s2? Can anyone refer me to the proper rooting document and the latest updates? If we do rooting will we loose the warranty from the company? Can we restore to the original kernel/firmware if anything goes wrong with rooting? Will get restored to factory settings? I just brought s2 and i'm new to Andriod OS? Also by rooting the phone can we change the installation path of apps and games to the external memory(I'm takling about the 12 gig internal memory which will be shown as sdcsrd in file manager)?
I recommend Rooting, it will allow you to access system files. The easiest and effective method is Chainfire's, follow this,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
You will need to flash back the Stock kernel to get rid of the Yellow traingle, follow this thread for that,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Rooting will void your warranty, but if you flash back the Samsung signed kernel and reset the ROM counter with an USB Jig then you will have warranty.
Regards.

[Q] Rooting without increasing flash counter

hello, i am a noob trying to root a samsung galaxy sII GT-i9100.
note: i have read many guides on how to root, and most seem pretty straightforward. however, this phone is my father's. thus i would like to root the phone without increasing the flash counter
i have read this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
can anyone provide detailed steps as to which one to use? odin, superoneclick or DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit?
*edit*
does superoneclick increase the flash counter?

[Q] Checking my Understanding Before Making a Move

Hi everyone,
I stumbled upon this forum when searching for a solution for a problem a few weeks ago. I have watched the noob video and believe I have made a proper effort in order to fix my problem myself without bothering anyone. I’d really appreciate if anyone could just make sure I understand things properly.
I, being completely naïve, followed some guide on YouTube on how to root my phone. On the video the yellow triangle that showed up seemed to be an indication that the root was successful.
Upon doing some reading on here I realized I had tripped the flash counter and what that means. Upon realizing this I began to read and try to figure out how to reset the flash counter.
Turns out I am on Android Build 2.3.6 (UCKK6) which to my understanding does not work with a jig. It seems to me that I can flash a 2.3.4 (UCKH7) and THEN I will be able to use a jig to reset my flash counter. I believe I need to use the second link in this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18859438&postcount=199
Just for reference would I need to flash a stock UCKK6 in order to fully restore my warranty? My phone originally came with 2.3.6.
After resetting the counter I intend to use method 2C in this thread in order to re-root my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Am I correct in saying that in order to flash a custom ROM I need to use method 3A in the previous link in order to flash without tripping the counter / using ROM Manager? I plan on trying out CM7 first.
My Kernel Version is 2.6.35.7. I backed up my apps through Titanium since I really wrap my head around getting CWM working properly : (
Please let me know if I didn’t provide enough information or detail and I will do my best to get you whatever you may need. I’m very new to smartphones in general so please forgive me if I lack some understanding.
Thanks you for your time, it is greatly appreciated.
Just fyi, if you flash an ics rom you can reset the flash counter with an app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22462960
Flash stock UCLE5 ICS rom with Odin. Root them. After you can reset flash counter with TreangleAway.
You should be able to use the jig to reset the flash counter on UCKK6. The code that governs the flash counter is contained in the secondary bootloader. A few of the 2.3.6 leaks had a crippled secondary bootloader, but the OTA update from 2.3.4 did not touch the bootloader, and phones that shipped with UCKK6 had the original secondary bootloader.
If you for some reason have a phone with a crippled bootloader, confirmed by not being able to reset the flash counter with a jig, then you would need to flash the original secondary bootloader using Odin. There is an Odin flashable tar in the Download Repository.
The advice about flashing ICS and then using Triangle Away is also good.
If you want to stay on Gingerbread, then follow the guide. 2C and 3A are probably the easiest.
If you want ICS, go to this thread instead.

[Q] How can I tell that my root was succesful?

Hi,
I'm trying to see if rooting my phone was successful. I used the method in the sticky of this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081 I used 2a Doomlord's method.
So ya... How can I tell if I succesfully rooted the phone? I thought something would show in odin mode but nothing in there seem to indicate whether the root was a success? I just see the flash counter and custom rom indicator
I'm currently running ucmd8 kitkat
d-r0ck said:
Hi,
I'm trying to see if rooting my phone was successful. I used the method in the sticky of this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081 I used 2a Doomlord's method.
So ya... How can I tell if I succesfully rooted the phone? I thought something would show in odin mode but nothing in there seem to indicate whether the root was a success? I just see the flash counter and custom rom indicator
I'm currently running ucmd8 kitkat
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A fairly easy way to is to download an app that checks for root privileges, like Titanium Backup. If it fails the root test try Odin again - or use Framaroot (an app), and select the Aragon method.

{Q}How to flash firmware via ODIN?

I was trying to root my sisters S3 i9300, until the Auto Rooting App i used, didn't work and changed the kernel(without root access available ) and now whenever i try other rooting apps it doesn't work. I think its because of the kernel change it wont let me root. So someone told me to "Get back a stable system by flashing latest firmware by Odin. If it boots normally, use cf-auto-root (by Odin, too). ".
I got ODIN 3.10.6.
Problem:How to flash latest stock S3 i9300 firmware(link would be appreciated) by ODIN?
How to then use CF Auto Root, to root my device?
A video or clearly detailed written tut would be awesome
I know is quite noobish question but YOLO?
Eliminate007 said:
I was trying to root my sisters S3 i9300, until the Auto Rooting App i used, didn't work and changed the kernel(without root access available ) and now whenever i try other rooting apps it doesn't work. I think its because of the kernel change it wont let me root. So someone told me to "Get back a stable system by flashing latest firmware by Odin. If it boots normally, use cf-auto-root (by Odin, too). ".
I got ODIN 3.10.6.
Problem:How to flash latest stock S3 i9300 firmware(link would be appreciated) by ODIN?
How to then use CF Auto Root, to root my device?
A video or clearly detailed written tut would be awesome
I know is quite noobish question but YOLO?
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All the info you need is in the stickies here, here and here.
I'm glad to help but next time, please use the forum search.

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