I'm trying to decide which ROM to have on my phone (and kernal)..
Obviously I'm looking for BATTERY LIFE, PERFORMANCE (with NO lags), and actually loads apps without crashing!!! ..Which some do!!
WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE OF CUSTOM ROM AND WHY?????
AndyGalaxy said:
I'm trying to decide which ROM to have on my phone (and kernal)..
Obviously I'm looking for BATTERY LIFE, PERFORMANCE (with NO lags), and actually loads apps without crashing!!! ..Which some do!!
WHAT IS YOUR BEST CUSTOM ROM (with which kernal) AND WHY??
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There is no "best" rom. What suits me may not suit you. However to answer your question stock is best for me with a custom kernel.
Okay its "KERNEL" and if I were to pick my favorable Rom, it would probably have to be SyndicateFrozen for the Epic 4g. I even though it's outdated, it was and probably still is one of the most well known roms
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watsa said:
stock is best for me with a custom kernel.
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Which kernal do you use with the stock rom?
Does it help with battery life and prevent lags?
AndyGalaxy said:
Which kernal do you use with the stock rom?
Does it help with battery life and prevent lags?
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Depends on what you need. Siyah and franco provide tons of tweak with most important being sound boost. Speedmod is good too with increased brightness for low and mid light conditions. Speedmod also has mdnie tweaks which makes text sharper
This thread will probably get locked by a mod, "best" ROMs/kernels are regarded as OT and taboo, and rightly so, because it's way too subjective.
There are no short cuts - you just have to flash, try and repeat as necessary....
Closed, "best" rom threads are prohibited on XDA, as there is no such thing as a "best" rom.
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sorry, I don't have enough posts to reply to the already started thread over in the dev forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995819
basically I wanted to know, is there any way to flash to this latest "PG05IMG_Mecha" ROM from that Chinese site but NOT completely wipe the phone & lose all settings, apps etc. I spent the better part of the entire weekend setting up and tweaking all my settings just right. would hate to start from scratch but I do want the battery life enhancements of the latest FW.
cheers guys
No, currently there is no way just to flash that stock rom over top. What battery life improvements are in the newer rom?
Well I don't know the specifics but I believe they optimized the power saving algos a bit, I know HTC has been tweaking them to try to squeeze a little more life out of that tiny battery.
Does it also have a custom kernel? I know the largest battery savings I've seen from my experience w/ custom roms came from a custom kernel that was geared to save battery life.
I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
javawolfpack said:
Does it also have a custom kernel? I know the largest battery savings I've seen from my experience w/ custom roms came from a custom kernel that was geared to save battery life.
I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
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No, the custom kernels to the extent of the Dinc are not available yet.
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I can't find any information on the thread you linked about it having any battery saving benefits.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12220034&postcount=31&highlight=significant+increase
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No, the custom kernels to the extent of the Dinc are not available yet.
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Yeah I know they've barely gotten roms w/ no bloatware out so far, which is a miracle in the turn around time from the device hitting the market. But sure they'll be there soon. So just interested in how this ROM manages to accomplish a battery savings.
Upon looking at the message in the thread about battery savings. If you remove bloatware and apps that constantly decide they need to be running you'll see a noticeable increase in battery life with that. You could also constantly fight to kill them and likely also see an increase in battery life. But the increase won't be as significant as when the custom kernels come about.
So if you aren't readily familiar with the manual process for flashing roms or say get a rom from a more reliable source (developer)... you might want to wait for roms to start showing up on ROM manager that'll automate the process for you and hopefully by then the custom kernels and other such options will be available. But I don't really trust a link for a image for my phone that sends me to a foreign website. You might want to check out adrynalyne's basic debloated ROM??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
I have used ninphos 2.04 and 2.05 and alot of chainfires kernels (kg2 kf2,kg3 and more)
I have noticed alot of diffrence regaring batterylife....between each one...I THINK chainfires gives best battery so far and ninphos 2.04 alot better battery than 2.05 (maybe its the BLN support that uses more battery even if BLN is not used)
So now I want a thread were you recomend the best kernels for batterylife!
So what is the your opinion?
Does a kernel really have something to do with battery life?
The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
I don't think it's BLN if not used.
I did some tests and when the lights are not flashy-flashy the phone enters deepsleep as supposed to and my battery life hasn't gone done noticabely, if you don't use BLN at all there isn't even the BLN service running in the back, so even less to worry about.
Ninphetamin is aimed at performance IIRC, so that could really make a difference, CF-Root is pretty much stock kernel + some initramfs mods, so should give same results as a stock kernel.
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I don't think it's BLN if not used.
I did some tests and when the lights are not flashy-flashy the phone enters deepsleep as supposed to and my battery life hasn't gone done noticabely, if you don't use BLN at all there isn't even the BLN service running in the back, so even less to worry about.
Ninphetamin is aimed at performance IIRC, so that could really make a difference, CF-Root is pretty much stock kernel + some initramfs mods, so should give same results as a stock kernel.
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Maybe you are right, but I experience better battery in 2.04 than 2.05.
Anybody have tried speedmods kernel? Does it have good battery compared to CF-Roots kernel?
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The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
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Imo I think you are correct since the Kernel is the base for everything while Android is running.
Thus, you better flash to a stable/faster kernel in order to achieve better battery performance ?
I really don't have any experience with the Kernels out there, only flashed to Chainfire CF-root, though I would love to hear opinions about ppl that used few different kernels and tell their thoughts about it.
ShivaShidapu said:
Imo I think you are correct since the Kernel is the base for everything while Android is running.
Thus, you better flash to a stable/faster kernel in order to achieve better battery performance ?
I really don't have any experience with the Kernels out there, only flashed to Chainfire CF-root, though I would love to hear opinions about ppl that used few different kernels and tell their thoughts about it.
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I wrote a little bit in my OP, but I write again, ninpho is really good, very fast and pretty stable...CF-root I see is better battery and more stable but a little slower...
those two I have tried...anybody that have tried others are welcome especially speedmod kernel as I'm thinking about flashing it
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The kernel ought to be one of the major 'invisible' factors. It is always active, and has an impact of the timing of everything else that happens on the phone. Particularly if there are bugs which have a detrimental impact on battery, the kernel might expose or hide them. That's not to say that the best kernel will necessarily give best battery life.
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Thanks for your reply mister.
I have a question going on in my mind as this is about kernel, well I also was rooted with CF kernel but lately I flashed Ninphetamine 2.0.5 kernel, only to use BLN, and I have root too, now afaIk, I can't have two kernels at a time, so may I know how I have root still when I've flashed with Ninphetmanine kernel and I have both BLN and Root altogether?
Pardon me if it's a stupid and so called 'noob' query but I'd really like to know this.
Regards.
different kernel does different things.But if your phone has already been rooted,I thought root will stay in your system,after your flash N kernel,you can use BLN with root.
That's what I think,maybe is not true
I've tried several kernel. one of my favorite is ninpo 2.0.5. battery life look good and it run faster.. angelom kernel also good but i've got issues on angelom 16 and 18.. phone run hot when using WiFi.. but angelom give me the best battery life when it come to idle.. but drain fast when i'm surfing..
will try speedMod kernel.. could some one give me some review on this kernel?
Thanks in advanced..
Hi, I am a noob so please help us out?
Flashed my SGS2 (first time android phone)with CF Kernal KG1 to get root, and bloatfreezer to freeze Samsung and Optus crap as per lists on XDA. Rather than getting better battery life I have noticed a quick drain on the battery. Namely Android OS which uses about 50% overnight.
Is this normal? what can be done?
I dont see much of a difference between CF-Root kernel, speedmod, and ninpethaine 2.0.2 - 2.0.5. Except speedmod doesnt allow CPU monitoring, overclocking and undervolting.
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I did try speed mod and honestly, I feel ninpo give better life than speedmod. Well it could just be me but I just tested it at average usage...So, yeah...
zzkonzz said:
Hi, I am a noob so please help us out?
Flashed my SGS2 (first time android phone)with CF Kernal KG1 to get root, and bloatfreezer to freeze Samsung and Optus crap as per lists on XDA. Rather than getting better battery life I have noticed a quick drain on the battery. Namely Android OS which uses about 50% overnight.
Is this normal? what can be done?
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Well honestly, if I remember clearly, there is an OS bug currently. However, why don't you try on other such as KG6 or KG3?
Also, did you install anything middle of the way? Could be an app or something?
how do i install ninphetamine 2.0.5 on Litening Rom 5.0 ?
chiggah said:
how do i install ninphetamine 2.0.5 on Litening Rom 5.0 ?
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Via Odin I think. Select the .tar under PDA.
On my Desire I did it so I could get rid of all the operator rubbish and take screen shots, on my S2 its unbranded, unlocked, and can take screen shots out of the box.
It seems allot of peeps out there just flash roms for the sake of flashing, curiosity I guess. But I am getting the feeling very few actually take the time to read up on what any particular custom rom actually aims to do, thinking every rom is a silver bullet.
Official roms are a good solid middle ground where things like stability and battery life are the denominators. Some custom roms aims for a more elaborate GUI while others go for overclocking or perhaps fast adhoc bug fixes, again there are no silver bullets here, they all tackle different needs.
If you plan to try out custom or unofficial roms I suggest you read up on a few things like:
If it will impact your warranty
Do you know how to get back to stock
How do you get Samsung official updates after custom flash
What are my needs and what rom match them
I have tried out a few roms myself on a plethora of Android phones and always ended up back on stock roms. The only exeption was my old Galasy I7500 that never got a official rom above Cupcake and when Google started implementing features in Maps and Gmail that was only supported by Donut and above I was forced to go AOSP.
I agree their is currently very little performance difference between stock and custom roms .
Debrand yes via Stock Samsung rom but custom rom your choice read the posts in each rom to get an idea .
Saying that i run a Frankenstein rom with bits from here there and everywhere .
jje
For Stock ROM vs Custom ROM from stock derivative, there is overclocking and under-volting Kernels. So there can be a performance increase and lower power consumption depending on what the setting is.
Another difference is that there are certain "bloated" apps removed, or "better" apps pre-installed.
Such derivative roms are Lite'ning, Skyrom, etc.
As for Stock ROM vs Custom ROM (Non-Stock Derivatives), this is no longer a Samsung ROM, so there are no or little Samsung features and apps.
Non-Derivative ROMs are like CyanogenMod 7, etc.
The real advantage is that most of custom roms are more battery friendly then a stock one, makes your phone faster and very offen fix stock bugs.
HotlipsH said:
It seems allot of peeps out there just flash roms for the sake of flashing, curiosity I guess. But I am getting the feeling very few actually take the time to read up on what any particular custom rom actually aims to do, thinking every rom is a silver bullet.
Official roms are a good solid middle ground where things like stability and battery life are the denominators. Some custom roms aims for a more elaborate GUI while others go for overclocking or perhaps fast adhoc bug fixes, again there are no silver bullets here, they all tackle different needs.
If you plan to try out custom or unofficial roms I suggest you read up on a few things like:
If it will impact your warranty
Do you know how to get back to stock
How do you get Samsung official updates after custom flash
What are my needs and what rom match them
I have tried out a few roms myself on a plethora of Android phones and always ended up back on stock roms. The only exeption was my old Galasy I7500 that never got a official rom above Cupcake and when Google started implementing features in Maps and Gmail that was only supported by Donut and above I was forced to go AOSP.
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I would agree with this myself.I have just answered a thread somewhere else where someone wants to root & flash their new phone & they haven't even got it yet.I say "Have a play for a couple of weeks" Change some of the apps for one's from the Market & give it a chance.You might just stay with the stock rom.I know I did.
JJEgan said:
I agree their is currently very little performance difference between stock and custom roms .
Debrand yes via Stock Samsung rom but custom rom your choice read the posts in each rom to get an idea .
Saying that i run a Frankenstein rom with bits from here there and everywhere .
jje
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I don't agree with this at all, more often than not you will get substantially better battery life on custom ROM's as opposed to stock,not hearsay this is fact, not to mention more speed and less lag,etc,etc the limitations and possibilities are endless.
LiFE1688 said:
For Stock ROM vs Custom ROM from stock derivative, there is overclocking and under-volting Kernels. So there can be a performance increase and lower power consumption depending on what the setting is.
Another difference is that there are certain "bloated" apps removed, or "better" apps pre-installed.
Such derivative roms are Lite'ning, Skyrom, etc.
As for Stock ROM vs Custom ROM (Non-Stock Derivatives), this is no longer a Samsung ROM, so there are no or little Samsung features and apps.
Non-Derivative ROMs are like CyanogenMod 7, etc.
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endorsed....
jonny68 said:
I don't agree with this at all, more often than not you will get substantially better battery life on custom ROM's as opposed to stock,not hearsay this is fact, not to mention more speed and less lag,etc,etc the limitations and possibilities are endless.
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Your view mine and based upon my testing is their is not much difference .If their was you would not have so many complaining in each rom thread about poor battery life .
Much better battery life and the majority would be running that rom only .
Possibilities may well be endless but at present no significant improvement such as their was on SGS1 .
Thats my view others as usual will agree and others will disagree .
jje
Although I flashed my Touch HD and HD 2 like crazy on SGS II it does not make much sense.
Only if You want to have a special theme You fell in love of it makes sense ............
For me: I start flashing when Darkedge-Theme is available for CM and CM is really flawless ....................
JJEgan said:
Your view mine and based upon my testing is their is not much difference .If their was you would not have so many complaining in each rom thread about poor battery life .
Much better battery life and the majority would be running that rom only .
Possibilities may well be endless but at present no significant improvement such as their was on SGS1 .
Thats my view others as usual will agree and others will disagree .
jje
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Well on the stock ROM i was lucky to get 15/16 hours battery life, on custom ROM's (for example Cognition 1.15) the highest i got was 28 hours 57 minutes, that is a serious difference in battery life, this is with pretty much the same usage - internet,calls,texts and music,people are always going to have issues with battery life regardless but if they follow some procedures good battery life can be achieved, installing Juice Defender ultimate should be their first step, of course your entitled to your opinion
I flash custom rom because the homebutton lagfix (reacts instant now) and removing all the text messages from my log. Looks really messed up with all those sms. And ofcourse theming
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jonny68 said:
Well on the stock ROM i was lucky to get 15/16 hours battery life, on custom ROM's (for example Cognition 1.15) the highest i got was 28 hours 57 minutes, that is a serious difference in battery life, this is with pretty much the same usage - internet,calls,texts and music,people are always going to have issues with battery life regardless but if they follow some procedures good battery life can be achieved, installing Juice Defender ultimate should be their first step, of course your entitled to your opinion
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Sorry not opinion fact stock rom for me had good battery life increase in battery life with Villain rom Cognition rom and varying kernels gave no noticeable boost to battery life .Thats the principle reason i answered the question with my views .
However that does not stop me from running custom roms , Frankenstein/ further customized . Nor should it stop anyone experimenting with such .
Personal view re battery life is that correct procedure regarding the apps that can be deleted frozen and good battery management will be better than flashing a custom ron just to gain a hoped for better battery life .Thats why many that are running custom roms are totally disappointed as they are approaching the problem from the wrong end to start with in regards battery drain .
But i am sure with two contrasting points of view the OP is now better informed than they where .
jje
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I forgot another reason.
Most phone manufacturers including Samsung and HTC, have a 18 mths support life, once the full 18 mths are up, there are no more upgrades or official rom releases from the manufacturer.
As for Telco branded phones, roms updates almost never appears unless there is some major issues with the shipped rom.
Custom ROMs just keeps coming out almost every night. They release fixes faster than manufacturers and you don't feel forsaken like waiting for a rom released by your telco.
Hello guys!
I am about dual-booting on my SII. I need your help because I need the best performanced rom for gaming, using at home and I need a rom, which is able to work at the end of the day too, so i need a good performanced and a good battery saver minimalistic rom. What do you offer for me? And what do you think is the best kernel for this work?
Billion thanks!!!
coda00 said:
Hello guys!
I am about dual-booting on my SII. I need your help because I need the best performanced rom for gaming, using at home and I need a rom, which is able to work at the end of the day too, so i need a good performanced and a good battery saver minimalistic rom. What do you offer for me? And what do you think is the best kernel for this work?
Billion thanks!!!
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Can't ask which roms are the best....
But i would suggest any custom rom and flash dorimanx or siyah kernel (not every siyah kernel is going to work so read the thread carefully). Then install stweaks and in this app you can set the phone to high performance, so you can game.
I believe by doing so you will reduce the life time of this phone. Phones are not made to overclock.
I think you can use the same rom/kernel but set stweaks in battery saving mode for your working hours.
Christiaan91 said:
Can't ask which roms are the best....
But i would suggest any custom rom and flash dorimanx or siyah kernel (not every siyah kernel is going to work so read the thread carefully). Then install stweaks and in this app you can set the phone to high performance, so you can game.
I believe by doing so you will reduce the life time of this phone. Phones are not made to overclock.
I think you can use the same rom/kernel but set stweaks in battery saving mode for your working hours.
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Thank you
I'll search for these
haven't seen this discussed too much, and I'm curoius what others are seeing with battery life when it comes to Stock vs Custom kernels...
Hands down stock kernel, has seemed to be better than any custom kernel i've tried for battery life. and maybe i'm doing something wrong, I've tried all sorts of rom / kernel combos and can't seem to beat stock kernel...
Are you guys seeing something different?
I'd love your opinions!
Thanks guys!
(I'm strictly talking about Battery life - normal use)
BossJ said:
haven't seen this discussed too much, and I'm curoius what others are seeing with battery life when it comes to Stock vs Custom kernels...
Hands down stock kernel, has seemed to be better than any custom kernel i've tried for battery life. and maybe i'm doing something wrong, I've tried all sorts of rom / kernel combos and can't seem to beat stock kernel...
Are you guys seeing something different?
I'd love your opinions!
Thanks guys!
(I'm strictly talking about Battery life - normal use)
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Ive definately noticed this too BossJ
I don't flash custom kernels for battery life.
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