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This is a question, that is very important for me.
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You see, this SGSII phone thing'y is HOT as HELL. It is everything I want in a phone... BUT STOP...
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NO HDMI out?
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The original SGS has one and I really don't understand why they took that away from the SGSII.
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I heard that there is a way to get HDMI mirroring with a software and a micro-USB to HDMI cable! Is that purely a software question or must there be a hardware thing to?
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Please... respond to this, this is very important.
An MHL hardware connection is needed (look up MHL in wikipedia), fortunately in the official Samsung specs from the press release it says that it has MHL. A video from MWC from someone representing the MHL consortium also says the SGS2 will be the first device supporting MHL.
I'll feel better once I see someone demo it, but Samsung have officially announced MHL capability for the SGS2.
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NZtechfreak said:
An MHL hardware connection is needed (look up MHL in wikipedia), fortunately in the official Samsung specs from the press release it says that it has MHL. A video from MWC from someone representing the MHL consortium also says the SGS2 will be the first device supporting MHL.
I'll feel better once I see someone demo it, but Samsung have officially announced MHL capability for the SGS2.
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You think Mobile High-definition Link??
Yes... I want to see a demo to. It would be nice to have this mirroring capability.
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
doh...
l0st.prophet said:
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
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First of all... DO YOU REALLY NEED a HDTV that supports MHL??? No Games on the big screen? DAMN!!!
l0st.prophet said:
Something does confuse me about MHL, if you have a TV which isn't MHL compatible and you don't want or don't have the adapter, can you use a microUSB-to-HDMI cable and just not have it charge at the same time?
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This video describes how MHL works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
MHL - WOW - Love the idea!
erahk64 said:
This video describes how MHL works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
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Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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l0st.prophet said:
Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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It says you can use it without the adapter, but your device won't be charged.
l0st.prophet said:
Thanks, but I've seen that video and it doesn't say if you can or can't use it without the adapter
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My friend you can use with any HDTV but you dont have charge of your battery device except if you buy an adapter MHL to charge and transmit signal on the same time. But how last your battery can provide of energy?
In my Xperience In my IPad I see 3 Movies via Wireless Apple TV and my battery show 30 % remain. In the case of SGSII at least You have enough power to see a movie with Screen turned Off (SGSII)
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Are there any news about a mirroring capability on the SGS II?
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I've been searching the net for some confirmation, that there is going to be a possibility playing games on the SGS II connected to a flat screen TV, but couldn't find anything to confirm that!
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Are there any news???
surely if this was possible, it would have been all over the exhibitions and videos of it would exist?
MarkusPO said:
surely if this was possible, it would have been all over the exhibitions and videos of it would exist?
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Or the SW used for demo phones didn't have the mirroring properly implemented yet and the option was not included in menus.
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I have not seen any demos where SGS2 is connected to a TV via MHL/HDMI.
Is there any previews or videos where they use that ?
No videos yet, the question of whether mirroring is on offer remans in the air.
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Funny... cuz... The first SGS had mirroring, if this one has it not, than it is a kind a regress!
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Sorry 4 my English.
Yep, I'd be very disappointed if this can't do mirroring, I love using it with my SGSI and would find it hard to part with (use my SGSI on the tele with BT keyboard and mouse, excellent experience, only problem is only SD-out).
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...cpu-increases-performance-while-saving-power/
This article says it has embedded support to stream to TV and use a ps3 controller etc..
HOw exactly does is stream to a TV, do they mean HDMI out cable, or does it have some 'dlna' type streaming, and requires a receiver hooked to TV?
SS2006 said:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...cpu-increases-performance-while-saving-power/
This article says it has embedded support to stream to TV and use a ps3 controller etc..
HOw exactly does is stream to a TV, do they mean HDMI out cable, or does it have some 'dlna' type streaming, and requires a receiver hooked to TV?
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Both HDMI and DLNA
i thought dlna was for vidoes/songs etc
you can play a game on a tv via dlna :S
SS2006 said:
i thought dlna was for vidoes/songs etc
you can play a game on a tv via dlna :S
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Well you didn't talk about gaming... Only about streaming to the TV.
Gaming won't work with DLNA of course. If you want to game, you need to chose the HDMI way
Is the HDMI needed a mini or micro? I've read conflicting spec sheets as to which it actually is.
infinitemethod said:
Is the HDMI needed a mini or micro? I've read conflicting spec sheets as to which it actually is.
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Asus site says Micro, but I'll wait until I have it in my hands, so see myself which connector it is
Diamondback2010 said:
Asus site says Micro, but I'll wait until I have it in my hands, so see myself which connector it is
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Haha, true. I just wanted to have everything ready to go when it get's here! I am so pumped.
hi, my Xperia S is shipping to me and i’m wondering if i will able to connect it somehow to my ps3 to stream content to my HD tv without using the HDMI cable!
since i saw that there are only unofficial docks (and they can't connect simultaneously HDMI and USB) and i will use on of them to dock my phone near my bad, maybe it is possible to connect the phone to the ps3 via WiFi and then use all the functions on the tv like it was connected via HDMI, only using the ps3 "in the middle" and using the ps3 controller like remote.
In this way the controller would be used to play games too without rooting the phone like i saw here in the forums.
Am i only dreaming or you think it could be done and useful?
Thanks!
This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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sorry but
my USB 2.0 (slow) external HD wich is a WD MyPassport is connected to my HD TV via USB 2.0 cable and i watch movies through it without any problem!
and i stream from my mac to my ps3 via wi-fi! (I can use "Playback" or "Ps3 Media Server"), sometime it lags a little bit but most of the time it works very well!
So i didn’t understand your answer, or i’m sorry but you are wrong mate! maybe you are speaking about full HD content... but i think that no-hd games and all the other stuff would work!
Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
USB 2.0's data rate (480Mbps) is faster than WiFi 802.11 a (54 Mbps) /b (11 Mbps) /g (54Mbps). n from 108Mbps upto 600Mbps.
Scratchling said:
Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
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ok now i understood, i asked two times "sorry" contradicting you so i think i didn’t committed treason!
Thanks for the explanation
so the streaming from Mac to Ps3 works in the same way, the mac transforms the content into data, send it, and then the Ps3 read that data and re-generate content sending it to the TV via HDMI.
So probably the Xperia S could send data instead of video signal to the Ps3 via Wi-Fi but the process of converting content to data - "inside" the phone - would take too much time and it would not be "real time"
Scratchling said:
This is in no way possible. USB2.0 isnt fast enough to run video signals, never mind 802.11a/b/g/n(Wifi).
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Its possible.
Dont come with theories what you just only "heard of".
Everything is possible.. The only problem is.. Support..
Look back then you will understand me.
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Efe64 said:
Its possible.
Dont come with theories what you just only "heard of".
Everything is possible.. The only problem is.. Support..
Look back then you will understand me.
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USB2.0 can not and will never support 720p. Its just too slow. Its for that reason that apple have developed thunderbolt.
I don't know if you could use the phone as a DLNA server and the PS3 as a DLNA client for this (sort of like Apple AirPlay).
But I don't have an Xperia S to test this theory out with, so...
(I know my reciever can be streamed to using DLNA [from Android, WP7, and WMP] and AirPlay [Apple]).
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I don't know if you could use the phone as a DLNA server and the PS3 as a DLNA client for this (sort of like Apple AirPlay).
But I don't have an Xperia S to test this theory out with, so...
(I know my reciever can be streamed to using DLNA [from Android, WP7, and WMP] and AirPlay [Apple]).
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From SONYmobile website: "The Exmor R™ for mobile camera sensor lightens up any gloomy day. Then share your pictures on a big screen. A single swipe of the display, and you can enjoy them on your tablet, TV or laptop via DLNA."
So the phone is capable to do this.
And PS3 of course can receive DLNA from a server.
Unfortunately i’m not a developer and this post was for knowledge and to give an idea to developers, since maybe an app that makes this (and other) phone(s) a media server would be interesting!
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USB2.0 can not and will never support 720p. Its just too slow. Its for that reason that apple have developed thunderbolt.
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It's funny that you said that, considering people have been stream video/music over their 3G connection, which is way slower than USB2.0 or wifi. And I believe many people also watch 1080 video from youtube over their 3G too!
I think it's quite possible, considering PS3 can read files on PC over lan as media server, maybe we need an app to make XS acts as a media server? Just a suggestion.
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
3Shirts said:
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
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yes i think that it will work, and there are other 2 or 3 similar apps. The thing that would be very cool would be to develop an app, starting from apps like these, that emulate the behavior that the phone and device have when connected via HDMI. With the phone like control surface too. Maybe this is impossibile
Scratchling said:
Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Your USB2.0 connection to your HDD is transmitting DATA to the TV. The tv generates the actual video signal then displays it. Same way you stick a usb key in your PS3, the video signal goes over HDMI.
Its not possible.
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Dont contradict if you dont know what you're talking about.
Read more article about DLNA before giving your own opinion without any backup .
ultima888 said:
It's funny that you said that, considering people have been stream video/music over their 3G connection, which is way slower than USB2.0 or wifi. And I believe many people also watch 1080 video from youtube over their 3G too!
I think it's quite possible, considering PS3 can read files on PC over lan as media server, maybe we need an app to make XS acts as a media server? Just a suggestion.
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Again, these are DATA streams, not video. The 3G connection is "transferring a file" per say, not 1280x720 pixels every 50th or 60th of a second(with a few ms delay btw, while 3g connections get around 75ms+ ping).
3Shirts said:
Have you tried this: http://www.prosyst.com/media/MediaServer/MediaServer-Docu.html
I am not at home to test it on my PS3 but it looks like it should do the job
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DNLA is a great protocol and there are many apps the both host and client, but this isnt what the OP was talking about.
You could use some form of RDP(Remote desktop) but performance sucks such cases, and I presume you'd have to hack your PS3 to put a client on it.
Hi,
Coming from an Xperia play i didn't need this!
However having had a Asus transformer, i used to use an xbox controller to play games.
1. Is this possible at all on a S3?
2. Is this possible with this adapter? http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-p35462.htm
3. With the adapter can we still use hdmi output?
What im hope to achieve is gaming using a controller on my tv all through my S3.
Would be awesome for portable Emulation.
Cheers
blonqe said:
Hi,
Coming from an Xperia play i didn't need this!
However having had a Asus transformer, i used to use an xbox controller to play games.
1. Is this possible at all on a S3?
2. Is this possible with this adapter? http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/mobile-fun-connection-kit-for-samsung-galaxy-s3-p35462.htm
3. With the adapter can we still use hdmi output?
What im hope to achieve is gaming using a controller on my tv all through my S3.
Would be awesome for portable Emulation.
Cheers
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I know that PS3 controller can be used via Bluetooth with an application from the market but im not sure about that adapter you could ask mobile fun there really helpful.
I didnt know this was possible at all!
Whats the apk from the market called?
strongylad28 said:
I didnt know this was possible at all!
Whats the apk from the market called?
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Here you go: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sixaxiscontroller&feature=more_from_developer
*note*
you need root and you need to see if the GS3 is compatible with this :https://play.google.com/store/apps/...patibilitychecker&feature=more_from_developer
Damn i have only xb360 controllers. Anyway we can work those for SIII ?
sak500 said:
Damn i have only xb360 controllers. Anyway we can work those for SIII ?
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if your xbox controller is like with a usb at the end look for a female usb to male
like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/female-Micro-male-Cable-Adapter/dp/B005GI2VMG
then connect and play dont forget to hit thanks
Funny you should ask: http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html
paintball23456 said:
if your xbox controller is like with a usb at the end look for a female usb to male
like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/female-Micro-male-Cable-Adapter/dp/B005GI2VMG
then connect and play dont forget to hit thanks
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Microsoft are very annoying with locking down the controllers for example a 360 pad wont work on pc with out the wireless adapter. Is there any solid proof that android is going to pick it up and its going to work off the bat?
You need this to use 360 wireless controller http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xbox-Wirele...VAAQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339420868&sr=8-1
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Microsoft are very annoying with locking down the controllers for example a 360 pad wont work on pc with out the wireless adapter. Is there any solid proof that android is going to pick it up and its going to work off the bat?
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as i said you can pick up and game controller like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-Gamepad...FJFS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339421022&sr=8-1
plug and play
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as i said you can pick up and game controller like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/USB-Gamepad...FJFS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339421022&sr=8-1
plug and play
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Yeah but the op mentioned the 360 controller but like you said its cheaper and easier to use a third party one.
NZtechfreak said:
Funny you should ask: http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html
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nice
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SkillfulMmd said:
Yeah but the op mentioned the 360 controller but like you said its cheaper and easier to use a third party one.
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please look at the vid that someone posted shows you what i mean that you can plug a usb xbox controller to your phone
Thats pretty cool I must of missed that, the poster dropped in between I may have to use this for my ps emulator.
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Thats pretty cool I must of missed that, the poster dropped in between I may have to use this for my ps emulator.
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told you all you need is the app and a adapter
Apologies if its on the vid. Im at work!
Can you plug the xbox controller in and still have hdmi out?
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blonqe said:
Apologies if its on the vid. Im at work!
Can you plug the xbox controller in and still have hdmi out?
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No, but still may be possible to mirror the display while using USB OTG with the Allshare Cast dongle when it comes out.
blonqe said:
Apologies if its on the vid. Im at work!
Can you plug the xbox controller in and still have hdmi out?
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possible...... though you will need to find a micro usb to female 2.0 usb and a splitter for hdmi
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possible...... though you will need to find a micro usb to female 2.0 usb and a splitter for hdmi
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Not possible, MHL and USB OTG are mutually exclusive connections at the hardware level.
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No, but still may be possible to mirror the display while using USB OTG with the Allshare Cast dongle when it comes out.
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That sounds plausable, and logical, only problem with that is forking out another 80quid or so!
Bit gutted as 9 thought there would be a dock where you could connect usb and hdmi!
None in the pipeline? Official unofficial?
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Funny you should ask: http://www.androidnz.net/2012/06/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-connectivity-demo.html
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paintball23456 said:
if your xbox controller is like with a usb at the end look for a female usb to male
like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/female-Micro-male-Cable-Adapter/dp/B005GI2VMG
then connect and play dont forget to hit thanks
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Cheers m8. LOL i have this OTG cable but not with the mini usb at front as i found out now. It came with elcheapo android tablet and it's port is weird type not exactly mini port, this i had bought online for $100. Useless now my wife does'nt even use it.
BTW I have both xb360 usb controller (1) as well as wireless (about 5 of them).
SkillfulMmd said:
Microsoft are very annoying with locking down the controllers for example a 360 pad wont work on pc with out the wireless adapter. Is there any solid proof that android is going to pick it up and its going to work off the bat?
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No it works, I have a 360 cable controller and it works with PC. U just need to install drivers. I had been playing Batman AA on pc using 360 controller.
I have read that the phone does support mhl 3.0, but then I have read that it doesn't and the only way you are getting video out is through Miracast. Anybody here have direct knowledge if there is mhl support?
Thanks
Microsoft Miracast dongle won't work with it either. Does not connect. So much for using this phone with my Appradio.
nothingshocking said:
Microsoft Miracast dongle won't work with it either. Does not connect. So much for using this phone with my Appradio.
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yeah I just bought the new Avh-4100nex and it was delivered today, I plan on using the Android Auto, I thing there is special Hdmi adpater you have to use for the samsungs I think
2003vstrom said:
yeah I just bought the new Avh-4100nex and it was delivered today, I plan on using the Android Auto, I thing there is special Hdmi adpater you have to use for the samsungs I think
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Just wish I knew which adapter worked. I would get the nex4100, but having an Appradio 2 already and was planning on using ARLiberator or unchained, it would keep me from spending $600. At this point I guess I have to return my phone. Drastic I know, but my radio is useless without a phone.
Samsung phones will generally only work with Samsung brand MHL adapters.
I've read multiple sources on the web that it is true that he S6 doesn't support MHL. I'll verify this later today. While this isn't a big deal at home because you can use chromecast ...etc, , it is in my car. I've always displayed my Phone's (androids and IOS) on my car stereo, for gps or waze purposes (just some examples). Anyone else use MHL? kinda bummed about sammy taking away that functionality.
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I've read multiple sources on the web that it is true that he S6 doesn't support MHL. I'll verify this later today. While this isn't a big deal at home because you can use chromecast ...etc, , it is in my car. I've always displayed my Phone's (androids and IOS) on my car stereo, for gps or waze purposes (just some examples). Anyone else use MHL? kinda bummed about sammy taking away that functionality.
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I got it to work with my AppRadio using Chromecast. Not sure if that is an option for you, but it did work for me. I just would rather use a hardwire connection. If Chromecast had not worked I would have returned the phone. Lack of MHL was a deal breaker for me, but Chromecast works really good for this device.
nothingshocking said:
I got it to work with my AppRadio using Chromecast. Not sure if that is an option for you, but it did work for me. I just would rather use a hardwire connection. If Chromecast had not worked I would have returned the phone. Lack of MHL was a deal breaker for me, but Chromecast works really good for this device.
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I have a Kenwood, Guess I could put a chromecast dongle on. I prefer the hardwire connection. How stable is your video connection to your head unit?
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I have a Kenwood, Guess I could put a chromecast dongle on. I prefer the hardwire connection. How stable is your video connection to your head unit?
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With Chromecast it is flawless, with any other Miracast adapter it is horrible. The only hard part (not hard, time consuming) is setting up the Chromecast to work with tethering off of your phone. The rest works just the same as an mhl adapter.
Well, these comments are bothersome! I ordered a Samsung MHL connector from Amazon and it is coming from China on a very slow boat. I ordered it two weeks ago and Amazon says it could be another month. This will tick me off if it finally gets here and doesn't work!! If anyone gets it to work, please post here!!
I got an official Samsung adapter and my s3 works like a charm but my s6 edge just shows a black screen
....m/-#*#*#**#@ !!! But Chromecast works well...dammit Samsung !
nothingshocking said:
I got it to work with my AppRadio using Chromecast. Not sure if that is an option for you, but it did work for me. I just would rather use a hardwire connection. If Chromecast had not worked I would have returned the phone. Lack of MHL was a deal breaker for me, but Chromecast works really good for this device.
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I just bought a 4100nex and now I'm running into this same issue. Could you please send me a link or thread that explains how to do this with a Chromecast. I'm so bummed about this whole situation. I have the s6 edge
Mhl cable from china works fine on my s6 edge....
adie1234 said:
Mhl cable from china works fine on my s6 edge....
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So you actually got app radio to work or did you use chromecast as well?
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No chromecast....was virtually jus plug n play for me
adie1234 said:
No chromecast....was virtually jus plug n play for me
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Yeah i got chromecast to work as well but really wanted to use that app radio unchained to have full control with the screen on the radio