Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
If you can - please update here to help everyone at xda-developers.com
pooblej said:
Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
If you can - please update here to help everyone at xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Esp for those you wish to keep to stock!
I have not received anything since the 28.5 firmware update a LONG time ago.
If JB is coming in the "coming months" as announced today.. who cares about some updates to ICS now. It's old news.
I care, because, I'd like to have a tablet I can use. Right now, it's pretty damned annoying.
Just like "months" is irritating. I'd get excited about early august.
xyrth said:
I care, because, I'd like to have a tablet I can use. Right now, it's pretty damned annoying.
Just like "months" is irritating. I'd get excited about early august.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly. JB is great and all, but how about providing me with a decent, usable tablet first. It's been almost 8 friggin' months now.
so, rather than agressively work on the next latest OS, you want them to continue to dilly dally with ICS versus just getting on with it? it takes them months between ICS releases and the issues are not improving. Why not take months and get on with JB and making it happen.
not me. ICS, forget about it... lets get on to the next OS versus wasting time, resources, effort, on an ICS
Lock-N-Load said:
so, rather than agressively work on the next latest OS, you want them to continue to dilly dally with ICS versus just getting on with it? it takes them months between ICS releases and the issues are not improving. Why not take months and get on with JB and making it happen.
not me. ICS, forget about it... lets get on to the next OS versus wasting time, resources, effort, on an ICS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well first of all, hello all Prime users. I am relatively new to forum and checking this section because I recently purchased Infinity. I believe it may perhaps be two different things. ICS & JB are OS but they can potentially fix the issue based on the Kernel if so they probably should as there is probably a good chance they are going to use the kernel on JB. So what I mean is JB may show up but if they continue to use the same Kernel and if it is indeed the issue.... So yeah if these firmware update are referring to OS tuning then won't worth it but if it is Kernel, which they use for both JB & ICS then they should fix it on ICS before potentially introducing new issue with JB.
Nothing they do to IML74K 4.0.3 will solve the 201's problems.. just my opinion
If they push JB they better have an updated kernel.
Scumbag Inc. said:
If they push JB they better have an updated kernel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope so too. I suspect a lot of problems would be solved with a fresh kernel with updated drivers.
pooblej said:
Just wondering if any beta testers have anything to report on the latest release from Asus ... When did you receave it, How is performance ? Does it address the I/O issues?
If you can - please update here to help everyone at xda-developers.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lets try again: Where are all the many beta testers of alfa softwareversion, there should have been ready 8 month ago! Gary from ASUS mention them all the time. Can't se any clue of them....
NeoMagus said:
Nothing they do to IML74K 4.0.3 will solve the 201's problems.. just my opinion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree but no way to know for sure until Gary stops blowing smoke up our asses and actually posts new firmware that is if any actually exist.
For me I'd rather be testing new JB software with a 3.1.x kernel like the one on the Nexus 7 than dicking around with 4.0.3.
The thing is - they say "months". Which is how many, exactly, 3 or 5 or 7 ? And wouldn't it be a little bit unpleasant, if after 3 months of waiting we'd get same crashing crap, like 28 is ?
And damn I hate this secrecy. Honestly, waiting wouldn't be so much of a trouble if I knew what the problem is and what're the chances they're fixed in JB.
No-one would wait if it were for a TV, don't see how it's different for a tablet.
svladimir said:
The thing is - they say "months". Which is how many, exactly, 3 or 5 or 7 ? And wouldn't it be a little bit unpleasant, if after 3 months of waiting we'd get same crashing crap, like 28 is ?
And damn I hate this secrecy. Honestly, waiting wouldn't be so much of a trouble if I knew what the problem is and what're the chances they're fixed in JB.
No-one would wait if it were for a TV, don't see how it's different for a tablet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on the ASUS previous reputation/track record, which is now further strengthened by the fact they are the official Nexus maker for tablet, we will still see it before anybody else.
Developer Options Limit background processes
I would love to have JB and I keep coming back to the forums to see if there's any good news but never what I want to hear. I too would like to beta test any firmware that came down the pipe.... The one thing I have done and found it on another thread in here, Limit background processes to 4 in Developer Options. It has made all the difference to me on how the tablet runs. Its always quick and runs more like I had hoped. There's always a bunch of nonsense on why the tablet is terribly slow, but this has made me happy until JB comes out. I expect Asus to mess it up and continue to messing it up but when its all said and done I'm still pretty happy!
dbtorreliob said:
I would love to have JB and I keep coming back to the forums to see if there's any good news but never what I want to hear. I too would like to beta test any firmware that came down the pipe.... The one thing I have done and found it on another thread in here, Limit background processes to 4 in Developer Options. It has made all the difference to me on how the tablet runs. Its always quick and runs more like I had hoped. There's always a bunch of nonsense on why the tablet is terribly slow, but this has made me happy until JB comes out. I expect Asus to mess it up and continue to messing it up but when its all said and done I'm still pretty happy!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your tip! I didn't know you can limit background processes =) my prime feels faster now.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Any news on the new version Gary announced on 16th July 2012?
It seems Gary is too busy dealing with the damage control over on the tf700 forum unfortunately. I think the Prime's are going to take a seat even further back(although I didn't know that was possible)
only info known on it so far from speaking to him.
point_pt said:
Any news on the new version Gary announced on 16th July 2012?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will address I/O issues. Could possibly have some JB features/components in it. This is likely the last ICS update before JB. Beta version for testing hasn't released yet because its not ready yet, or at least when I spoke to Gary few days ago.
Related
Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
connordroid said:
Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
Zabalba said:
Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
connordroid said:
Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
bignate78 said:
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
welchertc said:
Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
paleh0rse said:
There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA App
Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
smokestack76 said:
Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
jpeg42 said:
Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
jpeg42 said:
Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Tapatalk
I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
jrock2004 said:
I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
Sent from my SHW-M380W using xda premium
Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
koe1974 said:
Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
Sent from my SHW-M380W using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree. There's already a thousand threads about what's new with ICS (and OPs that didn't do their own research).
So here's my addition:
ICS will not get you laid.
ICS will not cool you off on a hot day.
I'm waiting ICS beacause it will bring native support to VPN connections with Group Authentication, that now is impossible to use with Honeycomb..
Jnn1 said:
Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
ICS Will not convince your mother in law that S-Voice is NOT siri on android
ICS is never;
- gonna give you up
- gonna let you down
- gonna turn around and hurt you
ICS will never say "die"
ICS will never get you brownie points
I love this thread.
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
don't get me wrong. I brought a galaxy tab 10.1 on the day it was released in nyc, and am presently a happy owner of a tab 8.9
Just HC had a lot of bugs and fcs in its initial release, though the most current Touchwiz based on HC 3.2 is definately more stable. But of course, by now, I've blissfully moved on to aokp ICS custom rom, and naturally feel no urge to return to HC. I m sure when you upgrade to ICS after sammy releases the official version this month, you'll not want to return either.
ICS can never match Klondike Bars
ICS Will never get rid of chart stains in your undies
Ditto
Sent From Windows95
Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
da_angelboy said:
Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also? Did you read the thread?
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Only cuz its a way better OS.. Best Google's work so far and it's really awesome.. Now if you want to stay with hc no1 is forcing you to do so..
It's just a dumb question IMHO.. If you have a 4 cylinders engine Chevy and out of nowhere Chevy calls you and tells to you that they want to replace your old engine for a brand new 8 cylinders engine FOR FREE, will you stay with the old 4 cylinders (that works ok but some times need oil) or will you be HAPPY and go get your new engine??
Again it's up to you to stay with your old engine or go get the new 1.. But consider yourself a dork If you don't change because you are okay with the old.
Nexus Cm9 + Franco
ICS will not be televised.
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
sekigah84 said:
Im interested in the Voice search and Google Now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree!
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Anyone going to work on ROMs?
Butter seems like it is going to be awesome!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
rakeshchn said:
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We had gingerbread ROMs based off the SDK on the Incredible..
What about the PDK, thought I saw something about that being released on the I/O?
rakeshchn said:
SDK aka software development kit is to help developers create apps compatible with jelly bean, not going to help with rom development.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does indeed help with rom development. Just not as easy.
I think it might help get it quicker too because the European version probably will get jelly bean quicker...
Sent from my SPH-L710
I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
Markdental said:
I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
But, yes, SDK can be used to develop ROMs, we just need to get a kernel developer to figure those out and make sure they are compatible. It likely won't happen until the OTA's hit in mid-July but the fact that the Galaxy Nexus is getting the OTA bodes well for us I think...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Galaxy Nexus does not have to rely on Samsung to push out updates though, and it is supposed to get updates first.
Markdental said:
I have no idea what the PDK is. That's something new I think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
swehes said:
PDK as explained is the development kit for Physical Hardware, in other words for the Manufacturers. If developers that makes ROMs can get their hands on this one, then it would make it ALOT easier for them to create the ROMs. And the other nice thing they said is that the PDK was to be available for the Hardware Manufacturers 3-4 months before release, which should decrease the amount of time it takes for the manufacturers to release the next OS version. The problem is to try to get this from Google if you are not a hardware manufacturer.
And then there is still the issue with the drivers which is what the manufacturers sits on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
Markdental said:
Jelly Bean SDK was released today. I haven't been this excited about an OS yet!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this. If it was intended to be the most exciting update yet, it would've had a version number to reflect that. Just saying.
Having said that... I'm pretty excited too, but it'll likely take Sammy a little while to push an official update if you're like me and don't root right away.
I want to see Project Butter and the new notifications in action! :laugh:
Markdental said:
I know it doesn't help us get updates on the GS3 just bec the GN gets one, but having the GN getting the OTA can help us with ROM development esp if we have the kernels to work with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Kernels for a completely different SoC..?
Markdental said:
It would seem then that Samsung should have been working on Jelly Bean for quite some time. What are the chances they release JB on the GS3 in the next 2 months if they have had 3-4 months to work on it?
They had ICS since at the latest last October and here it is June before they are releasing ICS for GS2. Seems the lead time is ~8 months. So if they had PDK 4 months ago and it takes them 8 months, then we should see JB in October/November. Unless the PDK somehow makes it easier to develop the ROM...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I doubt Samsung has had the Jellybean PDK for four months already. Jellybean probably hasn't been finalized for that long.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
My understanding was that google tried the early release this time around by giving it to the manufacturers two weeks before I/O. It is for the future releases that it was going to be 3-4 months.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda app-developers app
demarcmj said:
There are certainly some great features in there, but I think the "haven't been this excited about an OS yet" statement might be a little much. I'd say the milestone releases, 4.0 and 2.0 were certainly much more exciting than this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends. The VSync governor and CPU prespread is rather a quantum leap. Yes, it's not massively exceeding the introduction of the 2.2 Dalvik JIT but it's going to push Android along and, likely, past the Cupertino Competition.
Not to mention "Butter" was the coolest code name, yet. Chet (who's also doing the "For Butter or for Worse" session tomorrow, gave a good impromptu hallway intro to some of us, and it's exciting. VERY exciting.
I flashed the toro version of the Jelly Bean SDK port to my Nexus and holy hell its so smooth. Much smoother than my GSIII. I can't begin to think how smooth this device will be especially since the screen is much more sensitive and responsive than my Nexus. 4.1 is what 4.0 should have been. The Google Now feature provided INSTANT response with no lag. Its almost like talking to a person. Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
Zacisblack said:
Im really impressed with jelly bean and hope Samsung provides timely updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering Samsung subscribes to the "want to upgrade your OS, upgrade the phone" philosophy, I am not sure we'll see JB on the S3 any time soon. I'd presume we'll see an AOSP Rom soon-ish, though, given the number of S3 owners at Google I/O that just stared and lusted...
Any thoughts about the new Android 4.2 release from Google?
Supposedly rumours are saying that it is faster/quicker than 4.1, and of course it has the different new functions like the notification bar changes and multiple users. For me the most interesting part is if it is (or feels) faster than 4.1. No mistaken though, 4.1 feels fast on my TFP, but faster is always welcome!
Hopefully Asus will throw themselves over this one and get to work quickly, considering that this time the changes are not so huge, hopefully it won't take as much time as with 4.1.. even though 4.1 from Asus was probably some of the fastest updates in the Android-industry, which I am eternally thankful for, since JB seems to have fixed all my problems with the device (still have the browser lock-ups, but only seen it 2 times since the update.. which is nothing compared to 30 times a day before).
I was just thinking, that since there still was no thread about 4.2 here in the TFP forum, I figured that it would be a nice welcome to our discussions, and I am certain that Asus will give it to us as soon as they are able to get hands on with the code from Google! Considering the device is not even a year old.
Android 4.2 was just released and you're asking Asus for it already...?
pandaball said:
Android 4.2 was just released and you're asking Asus for it already...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your right it will take them ages to update seeing as we have only just got 4.1.
hopefully the drivers and code will be very similar to 4.1 so we might see a CM build soon.. didnt take long for CM build of JB after release as a lot of the code was similar to ICS. it was the jump from GB to ICS that was the bad one!
time iwll tell
Hawke84 said:
your right it will take them ages to update seeing as we have only just got 4.1.
hopefully the drivers and code will be very similar to 4.1 so we might see a CM build soon.. didnt take long for CM build of JB after release as a lot of the code was similar to ICS. it was the jump from GB to ICS that was the bad one!
time iwll tell
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We never know ASUS might pull this out the bag when we are not looking!
pandaball said:
Android 4.2 was just released and you're asking Asus for it already...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OP isnt asking asus for the update. He's starting a thread to discuss the update.
For me multiple users is the big one. My kids love using the tablet, and now ill just lock my profile and hide everything i dont want them in on theres
Sent from the matrix. (or my phone)
I got my Prime back in May, and there was already an ICS update for it. We just got our Jelly Bean update not too long ago. We might even see the 4.2 update by 2013. I am excited for the multi-user capability. That would give us something the iPad users don't have.
Smurphjw said:
OP isnt asking asus for the update. He's starting a thread to discuss the update.
For me multiple users is the big one. My kids love using the tablet, and now ill just lock my profile and hide everything i dont want them in on theres
Sent from the matrix. (or my phone)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you are correct I am just hoping for a nice discussion about the new things that was announced in the update from Google I am by no means trying to bug Asus about the update, as I believe it will come when they are ready for it, be it a month or 4 months.
I am mostly looking forward to even more speed and snappiness (even though JB did miracles for me), and I am also looking forward to the changes to Google Now + the ones done to the notification bar. For me the pad is only used by me, so multiple users is not of any interest to me.. as I look at the tablet as I do my phone.. but I still find it a useful addition, as I believe many others.. for example families that share a pad, will find it very useful!
I'm not asking either I'm just hoping for an update and expressing that hope in this thread. Let's hope we get it! I like my tablet as it is but software support in this fast moving android world is important, if Asus continues to update their tablet to the latest and greatest android for as long as the hardware can decently run it, I'm probably buying Asus again just for this. I don't mind their little **** up with the wifi and the memory (for me it's all sufficiently working).
Give that Google is callign it an update to JB, I am hopeful that those devices already running JB can get it pushed out to them fairly quickly.
In the long run google would like to see less fragmentation and a more cohesive Android echosphere. So if we do a holding pattern around JB, with upgrades and added features, for another year or two, I can imagine that those on 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 and of course 4.0 will upgrade to new devices running 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3... all JB.
I think 4.2 is terrible. I don't want a blown up phone UI on a tablet! Tablets should have specifically tuned ui's like they do now.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
It would be interesting to see how Asus pulls off multi user support with the transformer having an SD card.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
The feature from 4.2 I'm most after is video over WiFi support. I've busted my micro HDMI port :|
GS_Dan said:
The feature from 4.2 I'm most after is video over WiFi support. I've busted my micro HDMI port :|
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried something like imediashare? Works great with my Samsung tv.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
green750one said:
Have you tried something like imediashare? Works great with my Samsung tv.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the suggestion. While it's better than nothing, it's quite clunky to use via a PS3 (I don't have a Smart TV). It also doesn't include some apps which I like to use a lot.
well, i want the miracast from 4.2 but i want to keep the ui i have in 4.1. My prime runs pretty good now too.
Hello...
Not sure how but, if I root my Prime and do not put a rom on it,
will I still be able to get OTA updates? I currently have Android
4.1.1
Thanks
green750one said:
Have you tried something like imediashare? Works great with my Samsung tv.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Twonky. Works like a charm even on Apple TV.
---------- Post added at 09:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 AM ----------
JohnDaddyo said:
Hello...
Not sure how but, if I root my Prime and do not put a rom on it,
will I still be able to get OTA updates? I currently have Android
4.1.1
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you should get OTA updates.
---------- Post added at 09:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 AM ----------
ian1 said:
I think 4.2 is terrible. I don't want a blown up phone UI on a tablet! Tablets should have specifically tuned ui's like they do now.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why do you think 4.2 will be worse on tablets than 4.1? It's the same OS with a few enhancements.
Not sure how but, if I root my Prime and do not put a rom on it,
will I still be able to get OTA updates? I currently have Android
4.1.1
Yes, you should get OTA updates.
Thanks for the reply. Now to try and see if I can root it
JohnDaddyo said:
Thanks for the reply. Now to try and see if I can root it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't if you already are on Jelly Bean (> 4.1) and hadn't rooted your device on ICS. At least if you have a locked device. If you unlock you will lose the ability to update your device OTA.
Thank you ASUS, latest update working 100%
Now if we can just get 4.2 with multi user....
I found a link to a site that shows the Asus Android update lineup and the TF201 is listed (See attached image or link below)
I just want to know the legitimacy of this claim for the 4.3 update, because if this is true it means that our developers (Flumpster, NRGZ, ETC) will be able to make stock based Roms with the newest capabilities without having to use the TF300 or TF700.
http://technosamigos.com/asus-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update-schedule/
feyerbrand said:
I found a link to a site that shows the Asus Android update lineup and the TF201 is listed (See attached image or link below)
I just want to know the legitimacy of this claim for the 4.3 update, because if this is true it means that our developers (Flumpster, NRGZ, ETC) will be able to make stock based Roms with the newest capabilities without having to use the TF300 or TF700.
http://technosamigos.com/asus-android-4-3-jelly-bean-update-schedule/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If this is true it would be nice...although I Have my doubts that ASUS will update the prime...They have left us in 4.1.1....when I contacted them directly to ask about 4.2 update they said they had no plans of updating it to it. I have the feeling we won't see anymore official updates from ASUS. I hope I am wrong.
Pecata said:
If this is true it would be nice...although I Have my doubts that ASUS will update the prime...They have left us in 4.1.1....when I contacted them directly to ask about 4.2 update they said they had no plans of updating it to it. I have the feeling we won't see anymore official updates from ASUS. I hope I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had contacted them as well and this post felt very misleading promising me that 4.3 was going to be released... but at least our devoted developers can port it over from the TF700 and the TF300.
Pecata said:
If this is true it would be nice...although I Have my doubts that ASUS will update the prime...They have left us in 4.1.1....when I contacted them directly to ask about 4.2 update they said they had no plans of updating it to it. I have the feeling we won't see anymore official updates from ASUS. I hope I am wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe they did not want to release 4.2 because it did not have significant changes. Hopefully they should push 4.3
jashsoft said:
Maybe they did not want to release 4.2 because it did not have significant changes. Hopefully they should push 4.3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I like that straw. I will grasp it also :laugh:.
though of course 4.2 did introduce some significant features
I wouldn't count on it, considering that there was a post quoting an ASUS rep denying 4.2 will come to the TF201.
Update Android 4.3
Dreamcarr said:
I wouldn't count on it, considering that there was a post quoting an ASUS rep denying 4.2 will come to the TF201.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It sounds great. I just have bought a TF201 but When I reboot iI see a notice " Your drive is unlook" which problem is my tablest?
Several other devices have skipped 4.2 on and gone straight to 4.3, so this might just be possible. I do think 4.3 will run better on a greater variety of devices, and will probably be more widely adopted.
A Q3 release of a 4.3 update would be awesome news.
Anandtech claims that 4.3 includes TRIM support, which supposedly improves internal storage performance over time, so it might just show some real improvement on the tf201.
Well, I wouldn't count on it. This device has felt pretty much dead in the year 2013. However it works almost decently with 4.1 and the root fixes.
I seriously doubt you will get 4.3 for the prime. It makes no sense as you never officially got 4.2.
However it's easy enough to port TF700 and TF300 ROMs back to the TF201 as flumpster and I have done
I'm about to sell this tab anyways for the new nexus 7. 10 inches just isnt portable enough
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
I sold mine 2 weeks ago. It had to go before the new Nexus got announced.
I actually don't care i have to say :-\ androwook is awesome but the internal memory isn't going to get any faster which is the only problem with this tablet..
I hope so for 4.3 on our TF201
I hope we get the 4.3 update on our TF201, cause there seem to be an added TRIM support in 4.3 that could help some of our performance issues.
Greamlive said:
I hope we get the 4.3 update on our TF201, cause there seem to be an added TRIP support in 4.3 that could help some of our performance issues.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's called trim. And if you are rooted, you can already use it on your tablet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix).
Thanks it was a typo for TRIP instead of TRIM
Just some question about that apps, on my TF201 should I Trim everything including system or Just /data and /cache ?
DeKubus said:
It's called trim. And if you are rooted, you can already use it on your tablet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm going to give this a go. I'll report back. I'm on a Energy 4.1.1 because the 4.2 ROMS seemed to be draining my battery faster so I'm overclocked at 1.7 w/Kernel.
Would a application even make a difference? Just curious.. I cant really say I notice much lag unless I'm browsing and it hangs...
Im running it for the first time on my prime right now. (lagfix, not a 4.3 OTA - lol)
Used the motochopper root to not have to unlock or change anything bootloader related to gain root.
Was very easy to do, enable developer options, enable debugging, wait for windows to install ADB stack, run the batch, literally like 2 seconds and bam, rooted.
FStrim/lagfix must be doing something right now cos the moment I hit run, the whole tab started running like balls (my guess is lots of command to the cheap emmc since its never been done before)
Im going to let it go, It should help ever so slightly, I dont have real high hopes though since I know just how bad the emmc is.:good:
sbdags said:
I seriously doubt you will get 4.3 for the prime. It makes no sense as you never officially got 4.2.
However it's easy enough to port TF700 and TF300 ROMs back to the TF201 as flumpster and I have done
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THIS
So does anyone have any idea if this TRIM wosit-thingy might actually help the creaky old prime?
It sounds like the right medicine but i'm not even slightly getting my hopes up.
i still love the cracked screen rollin', broke-ass camera slingin', i/o-phobic thing though...
It does. TRIM + a cold boot once a week makes a night-and-day difference on my model (C, early 2012)