I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Its full ram is used to play apps and games on your Nexus 7.
Also...the nexus tablet doesn't have a cell antenna...So no mobile data to keep track of, those services are running on your phone all the time
A friend of mine bought At&t Galaxy S3 and it suppose to have 2gb Ram but when i check the phone it show 1.6GB ram and only 1.03gb available. so i guess it is used by system or graphic or something. Just like the computers that doesn't have dedicated graphic card so if your computer has 4gb ram you would have 3gb ram available the rest is reserved for graphic. i am just assuming that the same this is happening to our phone. if i remember correctly when i had CM9 and when i went to setting, about phone it showed only 768mb instead of 1gb.
I have all 16 on my computer.
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
My only gripe with the Note is the 1GB of ram. You only have about 350mb available and as we all know, Android caches stuff you run, but most of the time your not holding many apps in that free 350MB so its always restarting apps anyways. This phone (any ICS phone really) needs 2gb of ram.
I've used the S3 and yeah, its super snappy because so much more stays in all that extra active ram... Samsung saw the light and added extra ram, I hope this is a new trend... How do we get a 2gb chip soldered in place of the 1gb chip
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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I'm not giving up my Galaxy Note's huge screen Hoping the Note 2 gets 2gb of ram
Our phones are deliberately under-clocked to 716, some may say it's for the battery life but I think it's because the higher clock speeds lead to shorter phone life. Using custom kernels, you can clock back up or even overclock. The payment is made mostly in battery life, but if your ROM has a memory leak of even the smallest size, overclocking will open the dam and the phone will suffer for it. Also, the phone will run at a higher temperature, which for sure will end its life much faster than leaving it at 716. This is the way I feel about overclocking: If you get the performance you want, leave it alone.
Wtf??
Clock speeds have not a single thing to do with ram whatsoever
Overclock is for the cpu
Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
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Are you running more than one game that takes 100+ MB of RAM at a time? Do you jump from one game to another in the middle of action?
Sounds like you want to just want to be able to adjust your LMK settings. I don't believe there is kernel that lets you do that yet, but I'm sure there will be eventually.
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Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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not quite.. SDs speed of 20-30MB/s is a far cry from the 1GB of LPDDR2 "333Mhz?"in our note with a transfer rate of 5,333MB/s
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Hello, as we know, Galaxy S1 was advertised with 512MB ram, but in real there was only ~340MB of usable RAM! So i want to ask, how much ram is usable for applications and how much is free after fresh boot? Can someone check this? You can see this informations in task manager.
I think its about 800-850 RAM.
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised. For some reason people assume that their phone behaves different than their computer. The operating system and everything like that needs to use the ram as well.
AS stated though I understand the SGS2 to have approximately 850MB of ram free after running the OS etc.
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised.
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It did have 512MB of ram in hardware, but a pretty big part of the 512mb was actually dedicated video memory for 3d and movies. The Galaxy Tab 7" which was advertised with 512MB actually had ~600MB of ram in hardware, with extra ram outside the 512MB being for the dedicated video.
With the SGS2 it seems to be as the original SGS with dedicated video ram being taken out of the 1GB. It's easy enough to check by looking at the kernel config files. (And you can even tweak the numbers a bit to get a bit more free ram, as was done in the SGS)
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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Htc does/did this as well. My Legend is advertised with 384mb ram, but only 290 is available to the system.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Your philosophy is absolutely correct. In Windows that might be a good thing, because it starts buffering to the HD when you run out. But Android will just close some background processes automatically to clear ram as needed.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Unfortunately people these days only know about ram management from that poor excuse of an OS called Windows.... excluding 7.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Agreed, as long as there is a big line between FREE RAM and TOTAL RAM. More total RAM is always a very very good thing regardless of how good the ram management is.
This thread is about total RAM available to Linux/Android, so it's good imho.
Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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Interesting question, I heared that multitasking with 512 MB of RAM isn't very good because apps close very soon due the lack of memory.
When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
I hope not!
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Ectoplasmic said:
When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
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I know a tablet require less memory, they should at least...
But if we got more ram, more complex applications/games can be developed!
We have now some restriction about compress/uncompress files because of the amount of ram free/avaliable at the device.
Let's wait some one put their hands at the tablet and say to us
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Every Android device is like this: some RAM is used by the system, some RAM is used by the video frame buffer, and some RAM is used for applications. Every time a new device is released, this forum and others are filled with complaints like "I don't have 1GB RAM!!! ASUS screwed me!!!" The fact is that there IS 1GB of RAM, it's just being actually USED as it's supposed to be. And, if we had only 512MB of RAM, then far less would be available for running applications.
Furthermore, the number of cores has nothing to do with this--it's not like there's a linear relationship where more cores equals the ability to run more apps. Or, that we're somehow going to be crippled vs. a device with a dual-core processor. We'll be able to run the same number of apps as any other 1GB device, only more efficiently and quickly.
It would be nice to have 2GB, of course, but then the device would just be more expensive.
Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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You are right about websites. Web browsers n sites can eat up RAM fast as he'll. More tabs open, more ram eaten up. SH!?, my iPad only has 256MB RAM total and I make due with it..lol browser shuts down at times due to too much ram used or too many tabs open. Heavy duty games will eat it up also.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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Yep, the Prime has a faster/more advanced memory module or something. Plus several vids showed it multitasking like crazy. Andyx, member here, even showed a vid with his prime loaded with widgets on all home screens and stuff running in background. It still moved fast n smoothly between pages in such. No slowdown at all.
I multitask on first Transformer and had an app restart in the middle of it maybe one time - when sth was clogging the system (a broken game or sth). Browsers can be a problem though, the more memory they have, the happier (faster) they are. Games use a lot of graphic memory, so the more of it, the better (256 for 2D games is more than enough, but for 3D games nothing is enough ).
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
dont forget, more ram means also more battery drain. Ram sucks quite alot.
Of course more is always better^^ But i think "only" 1gb wont be a bottleneck for the prime.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
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Yes you heard correct.I posted the link a few threads back.The Lenovo tablet itself will have 2gb of ddr3 ram.Which is a faster ram than the ddr2 ram in the Prime.But I also hear the Lenovo tablet will be a lot thicker (yuck lol).No telling how much ram Samsung will have to put in their 11.6 inch screen (2500x1600) ..that screen is going to be a battery/ram eater lol.
The Lenovo tab is making me doubt getting the Prime as if all the ICS tabs that were made for it feature 2GB RAM then it must mean ICS will benefit from it.
Granted its not as thin as the Prime and wont have a keyboard but prerformace will be better.
As far as the Samsung ICS tab..that will be EXPENSIVE because of the screen, I expect it to be around £599 as currently high res screens that size are in small yields.
I have a HTC Sensation which has "768 MB" of RAM, but a lot of it is used in normal use. I mean a LOT. I normally only have about 100 MB of free RAM. This is how essentially all Android devices are.
Yea, there are going to be some tablets coming out partway through 2012 with 2 GB of RAM, but quite frankly Lenovo products don't do anything for me because they're typically so ugly, and I'm not interested in a Samsung tablet if they put Touchwiz on it.
While I would like 2 GB of RAM, you have to consider that the TF Prime is IMO ushering the beginning of the 2nd generation of Android tablets. No company so far has put such an effort into an Android tablet. Look at the Motorola Droid XyBoard, Motorola's successor to the Xoom. It's absolutely pathetic compared to the TF Prime. Until the TF Prime, every tablet maker so far has been half-assing Android tablets, giving them basically the same specs as always. The TF Prime brings in the true beginning of 2nd gen specs, and it still comes in cheaper than the half-assed XyBoard. Considering that, I'm not surprised that Asus can't make absolutely every spec on the TF Prime amazing. They have to make money on it somehow lol.
I don't think a "super resolution" will be good for us.
Ok, Tegra 3 is X times faster than Tegra 2, but my Xoom got a 1280x800 screen.
Now, 2500x1600? holy ****! too many pixels to handle...
Lenovo? don't have a keyboard.
Samsung? don't like they software modifications...
A asus "prime 2" with 2gb and a faster ddr3? I will got one
Let's wait and see what the future has to offer.
I have been so busy catching up with all the amazing stuff Da_G has been pumping out (thanks!) that I didn't even take a look at this until now. I am showing that we only have 733MB of avaliable RAM. That is a far cry from 1024MB.
I am seeing 733MB w/ both Android System Info and with the built-in Task Manager.
Does anyone know if we indeed have 1024MB of RAM and... if it is just assigned else where?
Yes we have 1GB every phone has RAM missing because the system is holding it.
I remember one time the OS didn't support that much not sure if that's the case now but the phone has 1GB to my knowledge and.what I've read
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I have also read that is has 1GB everywhere, but missing 291MB seems like an awful lot.
I beleive my Atrix showed 897MB. I just seems like an awful lot 'mssing' w/ the Note.
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Just like memory... Do we really have 16gb? Its never what they say... All marketing!
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I am with you on that! Makes me
I noticed the same, it's showing short but using the same app(system tuner pro) on my G2 it showed the correct 512mb.
It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
Graphics memory
As with any computer your phone has a gpu which needs graphics memory and because the gpu is integrated (SOC) it takes its memory off the top. This can be seen with any computer you have with integrated graphics it will section off some memory for your gpu.
As for the flash memory space many issues can take it down such as the file system, operating system, it just depends but trust me before the phone was turned on and android installed it had 16gb of memory and 1gb of ram
I'm about 100% CPU and GPU can't share ram as they do completely different tasks. They could have just added the cram and the ram to get 1GB though... But otherwise, the missing ram is from system tasks and the OS.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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Do we have a reference or any proof of this?
And to the post directly above this, any computer that does not have a dedicated graphics card uses shared system memory, just like our phones. 733MB is just quite a bit away from 1024MB.
they can and do use the same memory because they are the same soc aka system on chip. all this is integrated.
So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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So if you built a PC yourself and loaded it with 2gig RAM and booted into windows it would have 2 gig FREE memory?
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I am not talking about FREE. I am talking about the system as a whole. Do we really have 1GB of RAM? Where it is being used I am not so concerned about at this point, but it may help us figure out if we do indeed have 1GB (Where is the remaing 291MB assigned).
The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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The missing 291 is being used by android..to load the launcher Widgets and everything else in the background.
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i have international version of note.its same way on this one.the missing ram is held by system tasks.as for 16gb storage memory.if you wipe all area on usb storage .u will have 16gb but not a working phone.another thing about free ram.dont use task manager to stop apps.all it does is make the phone lag.leave everything running.
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It's not false marketing; it's fact. There is 1GB of RAM in the phone. I'm pretty sure the rest of the RAM is used by the GPU. My GS2 has the same thing, shows about 800MB of RAM available to apps.
What does it matter? I usually have 3-500MB of free RAM. Have you ever managed to fill the RAM with processes? Do you know anyone who has? Android clears old apps from memory even when there is enough free so I have never even come close to filling my RAM.
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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You have 300-500 MB FREE ram? My note is bone stock and I'm running at 400/700 MB RAM (meaning 300 MB free). This is also when I "Clear memory" too. Something wrong with my apps?
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I have 700 free. With just 2 home screens 2 Widgets and a few apps and live wallpaper.
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Two dozen open apps on mine right now, and it shows 283 MB used, 302 MB free.
On my AT&T gs2 I consistantly show 830 to 850 MB free. On my note I only see a lil over 700. How can this have less ram than my gs2? I have over 80 app on my gs2 and less than half that on my note!!!
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Probably xtra things (like snote )loaded on note that wouldn't be on your s2
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Hi, I bought XS quiet some 20 days back and out of curiosity I installed phone tester to check. The results showed was only 700 mb for ram, whereas as per the spec it need to be 1gb. can someone help out on this...
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hello,
you can see here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697957
Son experia S ram capacity
Hi, thanks for response... but even in that thread there was no concrete conclusion to state why the size details were not exactly shown. I am still not convinced on this.
ok BASICALLY this happens with ALL android devices. The operating software takes up some ram on it's own for example on htc devices the sense ui takes up ram and on samsung it is touchwiz. No matter how many roms you use you will never be able to see the full capacity of the ram, apps on multitasking also cause ram numbers to lower. Generally a sign of a low ram number means more battery is being used but it is nothing to worry about
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ok BASICALLY this happens with ALL android devices. The operating software takes up some ram on it's own for example on htc devices the sense ui takes up ram and on samsung it is touchwiz. No matter how many roms you use you will never be able to see the full capacity of the ram, apps on multitasking also cause ram numbers to lower. Generally a sign of a low ram number means more battery is being used but it is nothing to worry about
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LinuxAteMyRAM.com
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LinuxAteMyRAM.com
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LOL
Your RAM is OK.
Android uses a lot of cache but uses it dynamically.
If you want to see a bit more free RAM clear the caches for big apps.
If you "free" more RAM your phone may even get slower, because the system is using it to speed up processes.
this is not a new question, and I believe it is one of the most frequent questions and I was convinced with the giving answers but after getting my nexus 7 I am looking for some explanations.
why do we have low available RAM.I usually have 200 or less free RAM while my nexus 7 have ~ 500 free RAM. and even the total amount of RAM (used and free) together is about ~650MB and not 1GB, I have read that because delvic catch and other system process uses some RAM, but again my nexus 7 shows total of 1GB RAM (see screenshot attached).
so is this a problem with xperia s itself or is it ICS and this will change with JB
I know that android can free RAM when required and I know that the system using some and I shouldn't care, but using heavy apps and live wallpaper just eats the rest of the RAM and the phone become laggy until I make a restart, then it becomes fine.
any explanation?
It is normal. Live with it.
It's normal, it's not the same as windows, or other OS, I remember I've read in some place that this 'low free ram' is good, because it will start faster the most used apps.
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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shahkam said:
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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A) There is no way that nexus 7 has 650 RAM
B) We only have 700MB vacant RAM.
C) I uninstalled all the bloatware, there are some more com.bull_****.android processes that can be killed.
D) I made some changes in the heapsize... by this tutorial. Works in JB as well.
E) All of the above?:fingers-crossed:
K900 said:
It is normal. Live with it.
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I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
Felimenta97 said:
Why does the nexus show almost all of the RAM?
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exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
gm007 said:
They all say gpu and os and lalala but problem is that nobody know and we have to live with that.
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that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I think because since nexus 7 is aosp thus bloat free it shows up more ram..
The xperia have more stuff always running in the background so it eats the ram up if you take off stuf like timescape and yada yada might make a difference..
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I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
Nexus 7 shows @GB RAM because Tegra is way smarter than Adreno when it comes to graphics RAM.
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
not sure what difference it makes. My phone sits on 105MB free most of the time. I have no lag
what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
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what i know from the HTC One X is that tegra 3 GPU is sharing the memory in real time, not partititioning it like the others. only a small amount is saved for kernel so it was showing about 900 Mb of ram. i dont think it is good idea with all that single memory controller. but anyways, tegra GPU is generally sharing the graphic load with CPUs. this is why tegra optimised games make CPUs jump to max even the other devices can handle them easly with chainfire 3D.
and the reason it has more free memory everytime is that, the multitasking is less agressive in quad core devices due to the possible battery drain and heating problems. and this makes me think if upgrading to quad-core is a bottle neck in software with todays battery and 40 Nm technologies.
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Quad core is just overkill on mobile. It needs a different approach. OMAP5 is quad core, but the two 'main' (faster) cores kick in dynamically, and most of the system runs on two 'coprocessor' (slower) cores. That's an interesting concept because it can dedicated two cores to a single application and keep the system running in the background.
ahomad said:
I am not looking for solution, I am sure if anyone knows how to sort it, he would have done a long ago, I am looking for explanation
exactly, that what I am looking for, explanation
that what I concluded from several posts I read, no one seems to know the reason, and I am not convinced with any answer, I am now actually starting to think that our xperia s has ~700mb RAM not 1gb just like the HTC desire HD which has 768mb RAM
I don't think bloatware has anything to do with this, if it is because bloatware is eating the RAM, then it will be shown as used not completely disappear.
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Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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3vilhomer said:
is there any apps can stop those useless apps to autorun its own or auto startup when phone turn on??
i tried:
autostarts
startup manager
autorun manager
easy app lock
all these doesnt work on my xperia s... thy work in my xperia x10 before... (p.s. my phone is running ICS and is rooted...)
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Rom Toolbox works.
mrsatan said:
Dude Xperia S definitely has 1gb of ram. I am getting sick of people saying it has less because they don't understand the way the os works. There is no RAM conspiracy.
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The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
MrBelter said:
The problem is the phone does report less than 1GB and people are used to the likes of windows reporting the amount the actual installed RAM not what is actually available for use.
Sick of hearing it or not you better get used to it because unless manufacturers or Google start displaying the amount of RAM actually in the phone the same question is going to be asked for ever more.
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No if u use PC with non-dedicated gpu/VGA. Imagine if people complain their 2 gB ram laptop has only 1.5 gB in the Windows. There are a lot of laptops saying that they have 2 gB ram (in their advertisement ), yet the fact is they only have less then 2 gB cause of the sharing of gpu.
Felimenta97 said:
Until I switched to 64 bits, it always have shown me I had 3 Gb, when in fact I have 4 Gb...
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Lol.it's different case. It's because the os (32 bit) doesn't support more than 3 gB ram. But there's a hack to make the 32 bit windows use more than 3 gB of ram.
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From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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Erachter said:
From what i read in linux forums:
"Unused RAM is wasted RAM"
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This.