[Q] advantage to put app in system/app?? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi, well... i was wondering if i put an apk in /system/app, tht means this apk will be a syste application right? but is there any advantage else then this? if this app will consume more battery if i install it like any apk? thksssssssssss

/system/app is the folder when all system apks are stored here and it means that you can't delete it via launcher or manage apps.
There are no differences between putting app to /system or /data in battery drain.

tarekboukaf said:
hi, well... i was wondering if i put an apk in /system/app, tht means this apk will be a syste application right? but is there any advantage else then this? if this app will consume more battery if i install it like any apk? thksssssssssss
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One advantage is as my friend told above.. For ur second doubt, let me clarify it.. U know the concept, less apps more performance.. Some or most apps hav a ability to start themselves with user intervention!! So use an app like System Tuner Pro where u can freeze some system apps(careful not to stop systemUI and other imp apps!!) which u cant stop the svc they started!! So before pushing apps think whther they r essential. system apps process cant be stopped easily..

One more thing is that system apps have access to things that regular apps don't. For example, in ICS, non system apps do not have the ability to directly access things like APN configurations, as those are system level stuff. It's generally a good thing, but if you want to do stuff like backup and restore an APN in ICS, you cannot do so unless the app you are using is a system app.

well, thanks for ur reply, kind from u, its clear now, thks a lottttttt

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Hi Guys,
unfortunately a friend of mine has lost his gmail account (someone broke his password), and therewith all his apps bound to that account.. of course thats at the moment not extremely bad, because the apps are still on his phone, but if he might update the rom or buy a new phone, the paid apps will be gone.
therefore i am wondering, where these apps are stored. i found out, that most apps are stored in /data/app, but for example new applications, which i bought lets say an hour ago, are not stored there (think that this has something todo with 24h refund).. has someone experience with this? will those apps work, which i bought and then copied the apk file from data/app to a backup?
Yes, they will definatly work. you can use "appManager Pro" to back up the apps realy simply, or you can use "mybackup pro" to back up all your apps. Google seems to have no DRM in place whatsoever for the app store, so you can back up your apps manualy or with the above apps and they will still work, on any phone!
yes okay, the first app (appmanager) works, but only with some apps, not with all
for example i have the app "colorUp Lite", there stands "geschützt"/"protected".. any idea how the programmer managed to protect their app? and how to store that?
edit: i found out that every app, which can be backuped is stored in /data/app.. for example the app from above "colorUp Lite" has no apk-file in that folder.. theres just a zip-file with some pictures and templates in it.. where do these apps store their binary on the phone??

taking control of apps and downloads

ok so this is my first smart phone and i hate that i feel like such a noob! i am accustomed to having control of everything win7.
i have astro installed on my rooted phone. just downloaded an app from amazon. i have not installed it yet and have no idea where the dang app is temporarily stored.
is there anyway to take control of the default file location for downloads? i would like to save the apk to my pc prior to installing it on the phone.
additionally im guessing that when an app is installed it creates folders and file locations that the app needs to function on the phone. so when apps are installed and uninstalled over time will there eventually be orphan files and folders that just take up space and cause performance issues?
Most market apps are stored in data/app. No. It wont cause performance issues.

Can someone explain me few things about running process (startup aps) on Mini Pro

I can't understand something on android system.
When I boot my mini pro, I can see in a (for example) Open Advanced Task Killer lot of aps.. (see attachment)
Now I see Skype in a list of active processes. I do not understand is it now skype active and loaded in system? I asked this because I'm not signed in to skype, and it is configured to not loaded when system boot.
If not in which state are now all this apps?
I have same questions for other few programs, for example Samba file sharing. It is disabled in his config. I mean apk is not freezed. But it is loaded in processes list!
I see that all those aps eat memory, so y question is, is there any solution to disable this aps and load it only when I want to use it, and when I closed them to stayed disable!
Thx for help.
this app are in background.. it dosent effect much your system.. usually it is automatically loaded.. just kill/forcekill the app if you need more memory...
Nothing wrong with it, these programs just autorun in background for functionality purposes.
When you actually start using an app, android will automatically free up memory to make that app work.
Carpe-Dimi said:
Nothing wrong with it, these programs just autorun in background for functionality purposes.
When you actually start using an app, android will automatically free up memory to make that app work.
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I think you didn't understand me..
These aps using my memory even they are not started and active..
That is the confusion at me!
like i said it just automatically loaded in background, if you want to free up memory you can just kill it...
if it is not being used at all you can just uninstall it.. but be perfectly sure if you uninstall a system app... it will free up memory and save battery life..
paradorx said:
like i said it just automatically loaded in background, if you want to free up memory you can just kill it...
if it is not being used at all you can just uninstall it.. but be perfectly sure if you uninstall a system app... it will free up memory and save battery life..
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Thx..but, if they using my memory and "app's not running" then I do not understand the purpose why are loaded they?
Is there any solution to load they only when I need it, like in windows system?
I mean, when I close that app that it close fully and my memory freed up!
easyyu said:
I think you didn't understand me..
These aps using my memory even they are not started and active..
That is the confusion at me!
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I completely understood you
these apps are given memory by the android OS to run in background. there they do simple things such as syncing and checking for updates, or other things that i don't know of. this is functional, because when you open the app, it won't take forever to load and do what u want it to do.
However...
If you open an application (so it actively runs in the foreground) and it needs memory, the android OS will take the memory from your background apps and give it to the foreground app to use.
so, nothing to worry about as it has a functional purpose and won't interfere with your actual phone usage
if you don't want apps to use a lot of memory tho, you could try setting the vm heap size to something lower. (I believe 32M is standard) but this also limits the memory usage of the foreground app.
Carpe-Dimi said:
I completely understood you
these apps are given memory by the android OS to run in background. there they do simple things such as syncing and checking for updates, or other things that i don't know of. this is functional, because when you open the app, it won't take forever to load and do what u want it to do.
However...
If you open an application (so it actively runs in the foreground) and it needs memory, the android OS will take the memory from your background apps and give it to the foreground app to use.
so, nothing to worry about as it has a functional purpose and won't interfere with your actual phone usage
if you don't want apps to use a lot of memory tho, you could try setting the vm heap size to something lower. (I believe 32M is standard) but this also limits the memory usage of the foreground app.
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Thx for answer..but this still no option for me.
I wanted to "stoped" apps at boot, and just then used it when I need it. And when I exit from some app to free memory and fully exit from android system like in windows systems.
easyyu said:
I can't understand something on android system.
When I boot my mini pro, I can see in a (for example) Open Advanced Task Killer lot of aps.. (see attachment)
Now I see Skype in a list of active processes. I do not understand is it now skype active and loaded in system? I asked this because I'm not signed in to skype, and it is configured to not loaded when system boot.
If not in which state are now all this apps?
I have same questions for other few programs, for example Samba file sharing. It is disabled in his config. I mean apk is not freezed. But it is loaded in processes list!
I see that all those aps eat memory, so y question is, is there any solution to disable this aps and load it only when I want to use it, and when I closed them to stayed disable!
Thx for help.
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They are running on background and are programmed to start when booting ur phone, some apps like IM+ has the option to disable it, try doing it...
Hope it helps
XxLordxX said:
They are running on background and are programmed to start when booting ur phone, some apps like IM+ has the option to disable it, try doing it...
Hope it helps
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But most of them have not, and thats the problem!!
For example, skype and many other.

[Q] Need help regarding my SII

I have recently purchased galaxy SII (3 weeks ago) and previously i was on a Nokia Symbian based mobile i.e E72..I've been installing lots of apps in my s2 from past 2 weeks and deleting lots of apps which i didn't like..but now im noticing that my sII is becoming slower in performance..It helds sometimes and overall its not as smooth as it used to be when it first came ,im using apps like adavncd task killer,NQ android booster etc to help me speed it up but they don't seem to help much..so is there any way to really maintain the performance and keep it as smooth and optimal as possible??any other good free apps tht can help achieve good performance?
secondly,i have my contcts from previous mobile saved in my pc but i dont know to i should transfer em to S2..any way for tht??i manually added few contacts to s2 and i noticed tht those who had watsapp also started to appear in my contact list rather thn in the whatsapp application..is this normal?
thirdly as i mentioned tht ive been installing lots of apps i wanted to know if there's a particular way i can organize all of the apps that im installing in my s2??i want games to be set in a particular games folder,camera related apps in another and so on ..so is there a way to organize applications in folders??i tried using application folder and folder editor but they showed folders in the application itself not on the application menu bar ..in iphone people simply drag apps on top of each other to put em in folders so is there any solution to this in s2??it becomes tough to manage apps otherwise...i also wanna knw tht in application menu i cant move apps frm one page to another,i can only move them to my home screen..any solution for this??
and lastly i want to know tht right nw i don't have an sd card in my s2 so is it better to have an sd card an put all apps in the sd card or is it fine if im placing em in phone memory??does it effect performance?
im new to android
my s2 has android 4.0.4
not rooted
any help will be appreciated
Thankyou
right firstly task killers are a killer-by using a task killer you are stopping your device caching the memory or reserving it. when you kill an app in that way the os uses more memory to open the app from scratch. i find a swift reboot helps performance. much like my laptop i rebuild/reinstall windows every 8-10 months to maintain performance. i have on occasion after 6 months factory reset my phone just to get the new feeling!
with regards to folders and organisation you can delete folders that relate to apps you no longer have. just make sure not know which one you delete! i wouldn't think this would help with performance but i wouldn't rule it out.
lastly organising apps into specific folders is possible. in touchwiz you can open the app drawer,select menu (lower left button) choose edit, from here you will see folder and page at the bottom of the screen.if you want to move apps to a folder start dragging icons into the folder one by one when done click into the folder and you will have the opportunity to rename it to something other than "folder" same method goes for the page one too- it just allows a much quicker way to organise your app icons in the drawer!
I am using go launcher at the moment and that gives the opportunity to drag icons on top of one another and group them into folders very quickly!
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[email protected] said:
1. my sII is becoming slower in performance..It helds sometimes and overall its not as smooth as it used to be when it first came ,
2. im using apps like adavncd task killer,NQ android booster etc to help me speed it up but they don't seem to help much..so is there any way to really maintain the performance and keep it as smooth and optimal as possible??any other good free apps tht can help achieve good performance?
3. secondly,i have my contcts from previous mobile saved in my pc but i dont know to i should transfer em to S2..any way for tht??
4. i manually added few contacts to s2 and i noticed tht those who had watsapp also started to appear in my contact list rather thn in the whatsapp application..is this normal?
5. thirdly as i mentioned tht ive been installing lots of apps i wanted to know if there's a particular way i can organize all of the apps that im installing in my s2??i want games to be set in a particular games folder,camera related apps in another and so on ..so is there a way to organize applications in folders??i tried using application folder and folder editor but they showed folders in the application itself not on the application menu bar ..in iphone people simply drag apps on top of each other to put em in folders so is there any solution to this in s2??it becomes tough to manage apps otherwise...i also wanna knw tht in application menu i cant move apps frm one page to another,i can only move them to my home screen..any solution for this??
6. and lastly i want to know tht right nw i don't have an sd card in my s2 so is it better to have an sd card an put all apps in the sd card or is it fine if im placing em in phone memory??does it effect performance?
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1. I will answer this question last. this is because there other reasons why your phone is slow.
2. Uninstall every task killer. You probably don't need it
3. It depends on how those contacts are saved. so you will need to elaborate on how the contacts are saved on your pc. and their format. Do you still have access to your old Symbian device?
4. This is normal. if you don't want them to show in your contacts, then uncheck whatsapp contacts from the Contact application ( options, contact to display, uncheck whatsapp)
5. Your default launcher, Touchwiz, already has this function, just drag an icon over another. There are good alternative launchers too like Go launcher EX, etc that support this function
6. There is no need to install apps on Sd, except you run out of space. It shouldn't affect performance too.
Follow these steps to improve performance
1. Uninstall apps you don't need or use at all
2. Disable some preinstalled apps you don't use.
- To disable any app,
Go to Settings > Apps > All > Select the app you wish to disable > Force stop the app, then select disable.
Visit here and here for list of apps you can safely disable.
Note that there some apps you can never disable without root even if you wish to do so.
3. Boot to Recovery (Power off your device, Hold Volume up button + home button + power button, release the buttons as soon as your phone lights up)
- in recovery, Select wipe Cache
- reboot phone.
Done.
you should notice performance improvements now.
Jokesy said:
1. I will answer this question last. this is because there other reasons why your phone is slow.
2. Uninstall every task killer. You probably don't need it
3. It depends on how those contacts are saved. so you will need to elaborate on how the contacts are saved on your pc. and their format. Do you still have access to your old Symbian device?
4. This is normal. if you don't want them to show in your contacts, then uncheck whatsapp contacts from the Contact application ( options, contact to display, uncheck whatsapp)
5. Your default launcher, Touchwiz, already has this function, just drag an icon over another. There are good alternative launchers too like Go launcher EX, etc that support this function
6. There is no need to install apps on Sd, except you run out of space. It shouldn't affect performance too.
Follow these steps to improve performance
1. Uninstall apps you don't need or use at all
2. Disable some preinstalled apps you don't use.
- To disable any app,
Go to Settings > Apps > All > Select the app you wish to disable > Force stop the app, then select disable.
Visit here and here for list of apps you can safely disable.
Note that there some apps you can never disable without root even if you wish to do so.
3. Boot to Recovery (Power off your device, Hold Volume up button + home button + power button, release the buttons as soon as your phone lights up)
- in recovery, Select wipe Cache
- reboot phone.
Done.
you should notice performance improvements now.
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2)Done,i've deleted all the task killers.
3)I dont have access to my old symbian phone,its dead....Contacts are saved in vCard file format (.vcf)..
4)yeah i've unchecked whatsapp,its fine now.
5)i've figured out how to put em in folders,i can organize apps easily now ..
6)currently my apps are being installed in system storage and it shows that 892MB out of 1.97GB is already covered (although ive remove lots of apps)..I think i'll have to switch to an SD card ultimately coz otherwise i mite experience storage probs in future otherwise..
Question..y arent apps being installed in the USB storage rather thn system storage??what is being stored in USB storage thn and how do i access it?if i want to add songs,i will simply connect usb and add em to the music folder? or theres some other way?
I've uninstalled many apps and disabled some too (those shown in the URL link)..
i've wiped the cache by going in recovery mode too..
i can see significant difference in the performance,i much bttr..doesnt lag much like before ..
There's an app named "gamehub" can i disable it too?although its name is not in the URL link u provided..its a built in app..i dont play games on such apps so i thought i shud disable it,is it safe to do so?some apps start by themselves,is there a way i can control which app shud start automatically n which shud not?
As im new to android,i dont know much about the good apps,games etc...do you have any link where i can see the top apps,themes,personalization,games etc of all times?
thanks a lot man..
Game hub is fine to delete along with readers readers hub and music hub.
If you want ultimate control over uninstalling apps I would suggest rooting your phone and installing Titanium Backup Pro or Rom Toolbox.
You can remove any app (be careful) and choose which apps start up on boot etc. As well as MUCH more.
You have complete control with these apps
For top games simply go to play store. They have a top games section
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[email protected] said:
2)
1. I dont have access to my old symbian phone,its dead....Contacts are saved in vCard file format (.vcf)..
2. a) currently my apps are being installed in system storage and it shows that 892MB out of 1.97GB is already covered (although ive remove lots of apps)..I think i'll have to switch to an SD card ultimately coz otherwise i mite experience storage probs in future otherwise..
Question..y arent apps being installed in the USB storage rather thn system storage??
B.) what is being stored in USB storage thn and how do i access it?
C.)if i want to add songs,i will simply connect usb and add em to the music folder? or theres some other way?
3 a.) There's an app named "gamehub" can i disable it too?although its name is not in the URL link u provided..its a built in app..i dont play games on such apps so i thought i shud disable it,is it safe to do so?
B.) some apps start by themselves,is there a way i can control which app shud start automatically n which shud not?
4. do you have any link where i can see the top apps,themes,personalization,games etc of all times?
5. thanks a lot man..
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1. You can simply export those contacts to your android.
- Copy the .vcf file(s) to your phone.
- open your contact application, press options, and select export contacts from sdcard.
2.a) Don't worry about the space until you receive warnings. Applications installed on phone memory are loaded faster.
B.) You can use the pre-installed file manager (my files) to check that. If you are not satisfied with it, you can download third-party alternatives in market
C.) Yes. You can copy them to any folder as well, your music player will find them
3.
A.) You can disable it
B.) I can't tell you will app should start or not. I don't know everything on your phone.
You need Root access in order to disable startup apps
4.) Google playstore (aka Android market) has this function already. If you are not satisfied however, use Google search.
5.) You are welcome
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Hard reset Doesn't work!!! Please Help
Jokesy said:
Follow these steps to improve performance
1. Uninstall apps you don't need or use at all
2. Disable some preinstalled apps you don't use.
- To disable any app,
Go to Settings > Apps > All > Select the app you wish to disable > Force stop the app, then select disable.
Visit here and here for list of apps you can safely disable.
Note that there some apps you can never disable without root even if you wish to do so.
3. Boot to Recovery (Power off your device, Hold Volume up button + home button + power button, release the buttons as soon as your phone lights up)
- in recovery, Select wipe Cache
- reboot phone.
Done.
you should notice performance improvements now.
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My SII boot to logo screen then freeze. I've tried to go to Boot to Recovery but it doesn't work, also flash to another version doesn't work.
Please help me
Is there anything I can do instead of sending it to Samsung?
nololan said:
My SII boot to logo screen then freeze. I've tried to go to Boot to Recovery but it doesn't work, also flash to another version doesn't work.
Please help me
Is there anything I can do instead of sending it to Samsung?
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1. How did it happen?
2. Can you still get to download mode?
3. What's your phone's model no?
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[Q] Change where apps create folders

Hey,
Some background info: I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, so no SD-Card.
Rooted, running Paranormal Android.
So what started bugging me lately is the fact that android just places folders created by apps in my main storage, which ironically is called /sdcard/.
Is there a way to create a folder, for instance: ProgramFiles, and make android place all folders made by apps in that folder? That way only my Music, Movies folder etc would stay in the main storage.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Tim
I think that's more of a per app setting, not an Android default.
3rdstring said:
I think that's more of a per app setting, not an Android default.
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Hmm, and do you perhaps know of a way to get the desired result for me without having to re-install every single app?
timmiej93 said:
Hmm, and do you perhaps know of a way to get the desired result for me without having to re-install every single app?
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No. You would probably have to move all the folders to their desired location then go into each app & change a setting (If it's even available, might not be in all apps). This is just speculation as I've never tried it. You would also have to repeat the process whenever you re-install the app like after a clean ROM installation.
3rdstring said:
No. You would probably have to move all the folders to their desired location then go into each app & change a setting (If it's even available, might not be in all apps). This is just speculation as I've never tried it. You would also have to repeat the process whenever you re-install the app like after a clean ROM installation.
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Hm, well too bad. Hopefully somebody else knows more about this than we do

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