Fixing and/or Reuploading Music to Google's Music Manager - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, recently I heard about Google's Music Cloud thing where you can store 20,000 songs for free apparently. I was interested in this, so I decided to upload my songs to it.
I then decided I wanted to fix up my music collection, so I renamed all my music properly (artist - song (mix)). But then I realized, that the mp3 tags were either non-existent, or still messed up as well.
I have foobar2000 installed, and I was able to wipe out old tag data I didn't want, and then automatically enter then artist and song names in the right tag spots based on filename, so I did this.
So after reuploading my music, I found out that I made a few minor mistakes, and wanted to reupload the entire collection again, but Music Manager doesn't allow you to reupload previously uploaded music, even if you delete it from your music storage.
A fix for this was to rebuild mp3 tags from foobar2000 as well, which then modified every music file (but doesn't actually change the quality of audio or anything), and thus, made them all appear "different" to Music Manager, allowing me to reupload them.
And for a short summary:
- foobar2000 can properly fix music tags based on filename
- foobar2000 can rebuild mp3 tags
- Google's Music Manager lets you upload 20k songs for free (certain restrictions on certain filetypes and protected media)
Maybe someone might find this interesting

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[Q] Google Play Music song tagging

so i was trying to organize my library today, accidentally renamed over 1100 songs to Eiffel 65 as the artist. No idea how something like this happened.
Anyone have a program that can analyze mp3's and rename them? I should be able to download all songs from my account, hopefully scan them with something, and then re-upload them with the correct names...
would be ridiculously amazing if something existed that could scan my google music account directly and re-name them, but I doubt thats possible.
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There are Mp3 tag editor apps, but I don't think Google Play uses that kind of Mp3 tags, maybe if you edit the tags in itunes.
Otherwise you could consider getting another music player, thought I don't know anything about Google Play Music and buying music.
There's an app called itag in Google play. Those songs the app is unable to match you will need to do it manually

Google Play Music: Where are the ID3 tags?

I've decided to move away from Google Play Music and return to the old fashioned way to transferring media. However, almost all of my music was uploaded to Google's servers and subsequently deleted from my hard drives to save space. I properly tagged my media before uploading.
Now, AFAIK Google presents three options for retrieving music: direct download from the web (limit to 2 downloads), download the entire library through Music Manager, and the keep offline option from the phone itself. I'd like to avoid option one in case I need to download my collection in an emergency. As for option 2, I keep 200mb + EDM compilations online which I intend to play solely with Play Music, so I don't want to download 100GB just so that I can get the rest of my music that I won't be playing through PM.
As a result, I'm currently working on option 3. I've located the music files just fine, but it turns out that all of the tags are missing. I was under the impression that ID3 tags always stick with the music. If not, where would PM have stored them on the phone and how can I reapply those tags to the corresponding tracks?
*Please let me know if there is a work around to option 2 (or even 1).

[GUIDE] To The Perfect Music Library

Evening everyone, I have spent the last 20 hours of my life confused and beyond angry at Google Music. Missing Tags repeat albums and don't even get me started on the album art work missing. I am OCD about my music library, always have been that's why (when I used that god awful software) during my iTunes years I meticulously spent hours fixing genres adding art work and capitalizing the correct letters in titles artists and albums, spent hours downloading HQ album covers and all was well. Unfortunately for me none of that corrected info actually gets tagged in the actual file the metadata remains unedited and no artwork actually becomes embedded Tunes just simply says OK that's what you want to see for that song but only of course on Apple's devices. So I was left with all these files from which were jumbled up in Mp4 and Mp3 and WAV some with artwork some without.
So Yesterday I began the process of figuring out how to finally organize all of my music once and for all so that Google Music would show album art correct names yada yada yada. I then thought to myself I am sure of it that many others would like to see how I did it so that they too could enjoy a perfect Library on Google's wonderful streaming service, or off the SD card. I will say this is extraordinarily time consuming but since I am making this guide it should at least allow you to cut an hour or two digging for software and generally wanting to tear your hair out in frustration over figuring out why the hell the metadata editor wont edit the files or show up in the directory. So gentlemen and ladies alike here are my efforts in order to finally have a perfect music library forever.
Software you will need
ID3 - This is the program that allows you to edit the metadata and provide proper naming and artwork
http://www.nch.com.au/tageditor/index.html
Mp4 - Mp3 Converter - As Itunes and Apple are stupid and use a stupid file codec the Mp4 metadata cannot be directly edited The Tag editor can only edit when the files are Mp3( if you never used itunes you may be able to skip this) .
http://download.cnet.com/Free-M4a-t...7723.html?tag=dropDownForm;productListing;pop
1.) First will want to convert all non Mp3 formatted files into Mp3. You can either edit and convert together ( I would not recommend this) or you can queue everything that needs to be converted first. That is what I would do.
Sub Step a.) While it is converting go to Google and Image search all the album covers you will need and put the cover art .jpg into the folder for the album to which it belongs 500 x 500 pixels is perfect size for album covers and is the most widely used size for these images.
2.) While it is converting go to Google Music and delete your Library( NOTE that you better only delete things that you have the file for) I take no responsibility for you deleting music and then never getting it back that's on you. I have all my music in a specific folder and knew I could delete it. Also take note that DRM music from ITunes cannot be edited or uploaded. ( I paid well over a hundred bucks to Apple to get what I could DRM free) Once you have a clean slate you can allow the converting process to finish.
3.) Once you have your converted files you can go into your music folder location and see that you will now have duplicates of the files that were converted(One being Mp4 and the new Mp3 file). Create a new folder for your new files. What I mean by this is take all the Mp4 files( don't delete them just in case you still need it) and separate the Mp4 Files and Mp3 Files into new folders for example:
Folder 1 ( band Name: Mp4)
Folder 2 ( Band Name: Mp3)
THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT
if you do not separate the files you will upload duplicates to Google Music and it will default to the previous file leading you back to where you started (I did this and almost threw my computer out the window from frustration) Also leave the Cover art you downloaded in the Mp3 folder not the mp4 which will make adding the cover art much quicker
4.) Now that you have your library converted and separated the new and old files you will have an Mp3 Library and an Mp4 library( I know it blows to have identical folders but its just how it is and will make sure your library is as organized as possible and keep you from loosing your tunes.)
5.) Open the Stamp editor and you should now be able to edit all the Metadata you want using the program.
I am about to start Homework check back here later tonight or tomorrow for screenshots and tips to make this easier.
Quick Tip - this is how my Music Directory is organized
folder Named after artist
Sub folder contains Albums
Each Album is a sub folder containing the Google Image we downloaded earlier and the Mp3 Files to which will be edited ( I HIGH SUGGEST FOLLOWING THIS)
Very nice guide! im ocd about my music library too. I wish i could've just hired somebody to fix my whole library instead of wasting 20+ hours trying to. :crying:
I thought about it yesterday when I was doing all of this, A company that would organize music would probably be very profitable. Im not sure how you would structure paying but it would be a smart idea.
Thanks for the guide! Here's some things I found useful when dealing with my own library: (unfortunately I can't post links because I'm a new user, but all of these can be found as the top link when you google them)
mp3tag is a very powerful tag editor, and very easy to use for batch operations.
id3remover can completely remove all metadata from a file. I found this useful because sometimes files have tags that editing programs can't read but will mess up library sorting in Google Music or your music player.
Album Art Exchange is a great website for very high quality and high resolution album art.
Thanks for the guide - I've been meaning to do this for a while (I also fell victim to iTunes not editing the actual metadata but remembering the tags in its own devious way), and I may actually do it now.
However, I was wondering - is the conversion from mp4 or from m4a to mp3 entirely lossless? If not, is there an easy way to edit the metadata on m4a files?
Also, my music is about two thirds flac (my classical music) and the rest mostly m4a and some mp3. Will the tag editor work for flac files? (I of course cannot convert them to mp3).
Also, another slightly related question: I have been looking since I first got a phone for a music player in which I can set up the library the way I want.
That would be like this: first, I select a genre (Classical, Joshua Bell, Русские песни (Russian songs), Chansons françaises (French songs), or Other.
If I select Classical, I can choose to go to composers and then to albums, to artists and then to albums, or directly to albums.
If I select Joshua Bell, I can choose to go to composers and then to albums or directly to albums.
If I select Русские песни or Chansons françaises, it will go to artists and then to albums.
If I select Other, it will go directly to a list of albums.
So far, I have always just used folder players, but I will thank immensely anyone who finds a player that I can set up like this, that can also play flac files and is generally usable.
(Really - I will thank all of the posts you've made, or at least all that I can thank in 15 minutes of uninterrupted thanking).
Max725 said:
Thanks for the guide - I've been meaning to do this for a while (I also fell victim to iTunes not editing the actual metadata but remembering the tags in its own devious way), and I may actually do it now.
However, I was wondering - is the conversion from mp4 or from m4a to mp3 entirely lossless? If not, is there an easy way to edit the metadata on m4a files?
Also, my music is about two thirds flac (my classical music) and the rest mostly m4a and some mp3. Will the tag editor work for flac files? (I of course cannot convert them to mp3).
Also, another slightly related question: I have been looking since I first got a phone for a music player in which I can set up the library the way I want.
That would be like this: first, I select a genre (Classical, Joshua Bell, Русские песни (Russian songs), Chansons françaises (French songs), or Other.
If I select Classical, I can choose to go to composers and then to albums, to artists and then to albums, or directly to albums.
If I select Joshua Bell, I can choose to go to composers and then to albums or directly to albums.
If I select Русские песни or Chansons françaises, it will go to artists and then to albums.
If I select Other, it will go directly to a list of albums.
So far, I have always just used folder players, but I will thank immensely anyone who finds a player that I can set up like this, that can also play flac files and is generally usable.
(Really - I will thank all of the posts you've made, or at least all that I can thank in 15 minutes of uninterrupted thanking).
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I did not find anything that allowed for editing mp4 metadata(the DRM was to blame I believe). If I did it wasn't free which is why I ended up doing this in such a backwards way(spent an hour or so trying to find the software I used). There are flac to mp3 converters which I believe I saw on CNET. So you could in theory do this still but you would need to convert two different file types so it will just take longer.
As for You're second question I think "I think" poweramp allows for the kind of hierarchy control you are looking for. It also has the most options, auto album art work updater, and the best eq.
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zkrp5108 said:
I did not find anything that allowed for editing mp4 metadata(the DRM was to blame I believe). If I did it wasn't free which is why I ended up doing this in such a backwards way(spent an hour or so trying to find the software I used). There are flac to mp3 converters which I believe I saw on CNET. So you could in theory do this still but you would need to convert two different file types so it will just take longer.
As for You're second question I think "I think" poweramp allows for the kind of hierarchy control you are looking for. It also has the most options, auto album art work updater, and the best eq.
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What about m4a? And the reason I don't want to convert flac files is that flac is lossless. It has all the same information as a native wav file, but it somehow takes up a little less space, although much more than mp3. The flac codec is open source and all, so I don't see why there should be problems editing metadata in flac files, I just haven't looked which specific programs can do it.
And I tried Poweramp, but didn't see any settings for genre-specific hierarchy - you can choose to have it show genres-artists-albums or genre-albums or anything like that, but you can't make it different for each genre. By the way, I really don't care about options or eq - I believe that classical music should be heard exactly as in the natural performance, and I trust the professional sound editors whose job it is to optimize all the different instruments and ranges in the other songs I have. In fact, I have currently settled on EZ Folder Player, which just opens to a specified folder, from which I can navigate through the folders I set up to any album or song and play it. I believe it has no eq or sound settings at all.
I'm pretty sure that the mp4 and m4a files are both convertable using the program but I'm not sure lol. This was specifically to aid those that used iTunes in the past but switched to android and Google music' and how to add tags to mp3 files that people download from the internet. As for the hierarchy your looking for power amp allows folder browsing add well. But not in a custom way like your looking for. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful on that subject if I come across something I'll be sure to put an answer here for you.
As for your distaste to EQ all headphones are different because they produce different ohms and the studio quality sound the engineers get in the studio are on headphones that are studio quality I used to work in a f film department and trust me consumer grade headphones don't even compare. The eq just allows me to tailor my music b based on the pair of headphones I'm using on a given day.
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redwaldo said:
Thanks for the guide! Here's some things I found useful when dealing with my own library: (unfortunately I can't post links because I'm a new user, but all of these can be found as the top link when you google them)
mp3tag is a very powerful tag editor, and very easy to use for batch operations.
id3remover can completely remove all metadata from a file. I found this useful because sometimes files have tags that editing programs can't read but will mess up library sorting in Google Music or your music player.
Album Art Exchange is a great website for very high quality and high resolution album art.
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+1 on mp3tag, I use it all the time on my collection. You can drag a folder over it and it just loads all the tags for you for updating/reviewing/modification. You can mass update tags like album, artist, etc. You can also use the tags to rename the files.
dBpoweramp - Swiss army knife of file conversion, it integrates into the windows right click menu, highlight your tracks, right click, convert to, pick your format and settings and go. It's multithreaded and will use all your cores to convert also. http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm It's a little pricey but it makes things so easy. It is fully functional for trial use if you want to test it beforehand.
Did this awhile ago, ended up up just using media monkey to organize and found a lot of the meta data myself.
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Fix id3 tags for google play music?

I was extremely excited to take advantage of Google's free music cloud..... But I uploaded my 19000 song library only to find that about 3000 of my songs don't have proper tags. They all display perfectly fine in foobar2000, my iPod, etc. But in Google music tons of songs are missing artist, album, title or a combination of fields.
I use foobar to tag and changed all my mp3 tag types to v2.4. I also used the rewrite tags to file option and reuploaded all of my music. Nothing ive tried worked.What do I do so Google music stops messing up my tags?

[Q] Some questions about how Google Music works

Hi,
I have a few questions about Goole Play Music All Access. Hopefully this is the right place to ask. Just to calrify, I have a lot of music from other MP3 providers, or from my CD collection on my device. I plan on keeping it that way, because I don,t want to lose the ability to play songs with different players.:
Does your choice of Thumbs up/Thumbs down affect Radio play, if the files are on your device and not on the cloud?
When you choose Radio Play, does it mix songs from your personal library (assuming they only exist on your device)and the cloud?
I have set up my Thumbs up list do automatically download songs to my device. If I "Thumbs up" a song that I have added from my library to my device, and the same song exists on the Google Servers, what happens?
Does the choice of High/Medium/Low quality affect the quality of the song saved to my device? If so, is ther a way to listen in Normal when not on Wi-Fi but to download high quality files to the device?
I would like to have the Thumbs Up/Down control on the lock screen. Is this possible?
I find the qality of sound of the Google Play Music app to be lacking (compared to PowerAmp, for example). What other apps will give me the same access to the Google Play Music All Access?
Is it possible, when playing songs on the device only, to skip certain songs altogether when using "I feel lucky?" For example, I have a lot of spoken word, or music backtracks that I don't want to hear in my shuffled songs. In other players I just put them in a separate folder and tell the player to ignor that folder, but that concept doesn't seem to exist in Google Play Music. Unless I'm wrong?
Thanks,
L

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