Thunderbolt Upgrade on Family Account - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've got a family account with Verizon, and I'm still rocking the Tbolt. I have unlimited data and would obviously like to keep that. One of the other lines on the account has an upgrade available. I don't want to take their upgrade for my line, since I could/would lose unlimited data.
Q: Can I use the upgrade on their line, then take whatever phone I order and use it with my SIM card instead? The person who has the upgrade available doesn't want a new phone.
The biggest thing is, I want a new phone but I do not want to lose unlimited data because of it; I can't afford to pay retail at the moment. (Also my Tbolt is too far out of warranty to get a replacement Rezound or Gnex, and Asurion still has refurb Tbolts....not to mention that mine works just fine.)

Raikalo said:
I've got a family account with Verizon, and I'm still rocking the Tbolt. I have unlimited data and would obviously like to keep that. One of the other lines on the account has an upgrade available. I don't want to take their upgrade for my line, since I could/would lose unlimited data.
Q: Can I use the upgrade on their line, then take whatever phone I order and use it with my SIM card instead? The person who has the upgrade available doesn't want a new phone.
The biggest thing is, I want a new phone but I do not want to lose unlimited data because of it; I can't afford to pay retail at the moment. (Also my Tbolt is too far out of warranty to get a replacement Rezound or Gnex, and Asurion still has refurb Tbolts....not to mention that mine works just fine.)
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If it's a line based off of your account, they will most likely make you change your plan to upgrade IF that line also has unlimited data.
If all lines including yours are due for an upgrade, you cannot upgrade any lines without changing your plan.
If the line you want to upgrade does not have unlimited data on it, it shouldn't be a problem for them to give you an upgrade without changing plans.
If it's someone else's plan and they are fine with you taking their upgrade, you can change the SIM and use that phone in place of your Thunderbolt as long as the phone is compatible with your Thunderbolt SIM.
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Yes you can do an upgrade, put them on tiered data, and keep your unlimited. Re-activate their old phone canceling the data 'feature' and use the phone on your line.
I am not sure if an alternate upgrade will work any longer but it might.
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Currently the owner of that line has an Env Touch without any data package at all. I will get the upgrade soon and see what happens. Thanks!

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[Q] Will current 3G sim card work in Atrix

If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
bfrank said:
If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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You won't need a new SIM if you buy it off contract All they give you is the new phone
bfrank said:
If I buy off contract will I need to get a new SIM? I have an old $20 unlimited data plan that I dont want to lose.
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you can buy off contract (out right), but if your $20 data plan is not for a smart phone. The system will automaticlly put you on the 2g data plan and you will lose your unlimited. Now if your $20 unlimited data is for a smart phone i would make sure that when you purchase the phone, talk to the rep and make sure that they still have you on the unlimited plan...there are way around this...hope this helps...
Currently using it on a Fuse on 3G
So the big issue is $20 per month plus ~$600 for the phone = unlimited data (2 years = $1080)
or
$25 per month plus ~$150 for the phone = 2gig per month (2 years = $750)
Currently using less then 2gig per month but thats with the Fuse....struggling with what to do but I guess we need to see real prices first.
if your on a smartphone unlimited plan, you are locked in for unlimited data on any smart phone... you have tol let the rep know that you have unlimited data when you get the atrix...
I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
Just curious, why haven't they detected my vibrant?
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Because the Vibrant isn't one of the phones AT&T issues.
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
Although, AT&T royally ****ed me when I quit Radioshack(They cancelled my Employee Plan, and I lost all my benefits, they then went ahead and told me they have no record of me ever being a *customer,* so I wasn't entitled to the older plans.)
Again, this was a year ago; They might have changed things since then. I would call and ask.
Realistically, though, 2gb on a phone isn't the easiest thing to cap out.. Especially when the phone has built in Wi-Fi.
I am very interested the atrix and would luv to rid myself of the vibrant. I am going strickly american.
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Milkshakes00 said:
This isn't the case. At least, it wasn't when I quit Radioshack a year ago.
All people on AT&T that had the original $20 unlimited data are entitled to it, for as long as they want. You just have to tell them you had it. They can check your plan to see if you previously had it, and if you did, will be able to keep it.
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Right, if you had an old data plan you can keep it. But AT&T categorizes some plans as "non-smartphone" plans, and if you get an AT&T smartphone they will notify you that they are switching you to a smartphone plan. I know multiple people that had this happen to them, starting around November.
smeadow said:
I have the vibrant on a at&t unlimited plan that's non smartphone. Will I be detected & upgraded with the atrix 4g?
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Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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If you are on a non-smartphone data plan and get an Atrix it is extremely likely that AT&T will detect you and require you to switch data plans.
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Correct.
I still have my unlimited data plan from my first Tilt... used it for my Tilt 2.. and I plan on getting the Atrix 4G.
I assume I'm safe as long as I tell/remind/make sure with them, correct?
I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
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Yes because the AT&T system will automatically add a smart phone data plan. There is no way around it. Trust me
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Nope, you're incorrect.
If Atrix has a new simcard format, and will force u to get a new simcard, then perhaps.
If standard old sim works with Atrix, you will NOT be upgraded/changed.
This topic was around for a long time, and I'm tired of seeing this. I've been using my simcard for about 5 years now, coming from HTC Kaiser to TouchPro to TouchPro2 to NexusOne to Captivate. Same 1 simcard. Same $20/unlim data.
In fact, I called AT&T (about a different issue) and decided to ask them outright about this policy. They specifically told me that they will not change your account to a more expensive data plan by themselves, unless you ask them to. So I asked (off the record) whether it's ok that I keep the same simcard and using same data plan (i use up around 2-6GB per month data) as I sell/buy my phones off contract. They said they don't care, unless they want me to change it, they won't.
So, 5-6 years with AT&T and 5 (soon to be 6) phones I changed tell me you're wrong.
My advice: sell your N1/captivate/g2/whatever, add $100/$200, get Atrix off contract, plop in the old simcard, never tell AT&T about it, and live happy.
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Nope, you're incorrect.
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There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan. I did, swapped SIMs, and in less than a day I got a text saying I had been switched to the 2 GB DataPro plan.
AT&T does IMEI scans, and if they are pretty good at telling which phones are smartphones. It's not 100% perfect, but pretty good.
That being said, there should be no reason that you need a new SIM for the Atrix unless you have a REALLY old pre-3G SIM. But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
stoli412 said:
There's a ton of evidence to the contrary, including my own experience. I bought an N1 outright and signed up for AT&T service. At the suggestion of a friend, I went into the corp store with an unlocked feature phone so I could sign up for the $15 unlimited data plan.
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available. I got this plan many years ago, before iPhone, and just kept renewing my contract on the same terms, which AT&T was happy about. A year ago they already started doing away with unlimited plans, yet they gladly renewed my contract with unlimited data, even though I used the contract extension subsidy to get a new TouchPro2 from them, right from their store.
So maybe the moral here is that if you have the old plan with unlimited data - u can just keep extending it every 2 years without trouble. Cannot do that for new contracts.
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But, don't count on being able to keep a non-smartphone data plan.
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Oh, I've counted on that for last 5 or so years, and don't see why I can't in the future =)
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Big difference being that you actually tried to go and get this grandfather $15/mo unlimited plan, which is no longer available.
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Maybe we have our wires crossed here. Data Unlimited for non-smartphones is still very much available and is $15/month. But if you try to use it with a smartphone, 95% of the time they're going to automatically switch you to a DataPro plan for smartphones once they do an IMEI scan. This is exactly what happened with me. I signed up with a dumbphone, and within a day of switching my SIM to my N1 I got a text saying I had been switched.
Now if you are grandfathered into the old unlimited smartphone data plan, the absolutely you should have no trouble keeping it when swapping SIMs.
xryousukex said:
I'm on a non-smartphone unlimited data on my milestone due to AT&T not recognizing the phone.
My thought process is to get a Bell version Atrix if they are the same hardware as the AT&T and flash AT&T's firmware when it becomes available. That way AT&T can't recognize the IMEI and make me get the higher data plan. I'm currently on $10 unlimited data since i have the unlimited text.
Anything wrong with this thought process? Just curious. Thanks!
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I plan on doing the same thing! Just got to make sure you get it unlocked some way or another! thats really the only thing you have to worry about...

[Q] S4 Unlimited Data Upgrade Transfer Question

Hello all, this might not be the right place to post this but I was looking for some help/advice.
I currently have unlimited data and an upgrade available. My wife's line is already on a 2GB plan.
I transferred my upgrade to her line and bought the S4 with her line, should be here tomorrow.
My question is, do I have to activate it on her phone first? Or can I simply just activate it on my line? I have been looking around the interwebs but have not been able to find a clear answer.
Some people say it takes 24hrs before I can transfer it to my line. Can I just activate it on her line and then go into a Verizon store to get a new SIM and swap it to my line? Or can I do it online? Sorry for the redundant questions and I appreciate any help!
Yes, if the contract on your line is extended. You will lose the unlimited data regardless of who you activate on first. The way it works is to use her upgrade and do an ESN change after.
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I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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I didn't even realize I had unlimited data on my 2.5 year old Droid X until I went to order the S4 a couple of days ago! I went ahead and upgraded my line, thinking my data usage is so limited anyway (because I thought I was limited) and I would be able to manage with the 2 GB they give us. Thinking it over and trying to find a loophole, I can across the method you just described.
I quickly cancelled my upgrade and upgraded my moms dumb phone to a S4 and am waiting for it to do exactly what you did. I was expecting to have to go into the store, but you were able to do everything from your home? And will it matter that I am moving over from a 3G device to 4G? Thanks!
Just to update:
I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan and ordered the phone.
Once it arrieved, I activated it on the 2GB line as per the upgrade. I then replaced the S4 with the S3 that was previously on the line and transfered the S4 to my line, the one with unlimited data.
I am now on the S4 with Unlimited Data! My contract was extended for two years too. So, this does still work.
Thank you
Churchryn said:
I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan
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What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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graymonkey44 said:
I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
stuartv said:
What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
stuartv said:
Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
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I plan on doing the same, let us know how it goes
stuartv said:
You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
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You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
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If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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This works, up to the point of cancelling the second line. You can add a second line with a dumbphone, upgrade it, switch it to your line and then remove data from the second line. But you have to keep that second line open for the contract at the $10 a month or whatever it is.
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tdowrie said:
You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
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You can use the new SIM that came with the S4 to run the rezound. However, Rezound uses full size SIM and S3/4 use microSIM. So you would need to purchase a cheap adapter to use the new microSIM in the full size SIM slot. Then you use your S3 SIM in the new S4. ESN swap is only needed for non-4G phones.
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Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
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I'm fairly certain you gamed the system. I've been told and have gone through numerous upgrade transfers where if the upgrade was originating from the unlimited data line, no matter where it goes or what happens, the unlimited data line will lose unlimited data. Either upgrading it or transferring the upgrade, it will go away. If this didn't happen to you, I suspect someone either helped you out in a certain way, or just simply made a mistake.
My point would be, I wouldn't rely on this system to be 100% correct all the time. Upgrading and trying to get around loopholes is very hit and miss depending on who you talk to and which store you go to.
It is entirely possible that my occurance was a happy accident. But, I am still glad that this happened. I have been checking regularly to ensure that my account is still unlimited. I did do it all online with no interaction from the store, maybe the automated process makes it a little easier?
Anyway, I am really liking the S4. Rooted with TWRP waiting for ROMs.
I hope this helps anyone looking to to the same thing.
I too upgraded my sister in laws dumbphone to a s4. Activated it under her, immediately swapped sim cards to mine. Called to have her simless phone be put back in service and cancel data. It took about 10 minutes to rob her upgrade
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It appears that I am screwed. I'm on an Individual plan and I don't seem to be able to even add a second line at all without converting my existing line to a Family Share plan and losing my Unlimited.
Just did this on the 23rd:
Wife and I had 1400 minute shared family plan with unlimited data each, and a wifi hotspot device on its own little plan. Went to the verizon store and told them I wanted to upgrade my wifes Iphone. She doesn't use hardly any data. Upgraded her phone to the S4. They put her on a shared plan with the wifi hotspot and told me I could leave my minutes alone or bump them down to the 450 plan. Either way my data would stay intact. I left it be for now just to keep from changing to much. Since my wife wasn't with me, I told the guy to reactive her iphone so she wouldn't be without service, and she would come up later to reactivate. I went to another store and told them my wife didn't like the S4 but since I already paid for it, I wanted to try it. He popped a new sim card in and activated it. Plan the same, all is good. Once you pay for it, its yours. You can use it as you please. Now, when she wants to upgrade, I got to make a decision........pay full price, or lose my plan. But, that will be some time down the road.
You only need to activate it on her line (otherwise her phone number will be stuck with a pending upgrade) and then you can immediately activate it on your line. While I don't sell cell phones I'm in a Verizon wireless store all the time and I've seen it done

Question regarding transferring upgrades

So I have a quick question regarding transferring upgrades.
I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and 5 phones on my VZW plan. I am the only one with unlimited data and I have an upgrade available.
I know you can transfer the upgrade to another line, activate on the other line, and then switch the lines to keep unlimited data.
I just did this, but it is weird. When I go to the upgrade screen again, it says that my unlimited line is awaiting activation? I was wondering if VZW seemed to fix this "workaround" or what? Because now on my invoice says on my unlimited line that it will go to a 2gb data plan, even though when I transferred and upgraded, it did not give me that warning that you are not allowed to have unlimited data anymore and will be forced to go to a 2gb data plan.
I'm sure i've transferred it right, and I've done this in the past so i'm thinking VZW might have fixed thsi workaround?
I recently inquired with VZW about retaining my unlimited data in the event I should upgrade to the Note 3. They said on 2 separate occasions that they are no longer grandfathering unlimited data. The next best thing was 2GB. This has really forced me to reconsider whether or not I want to upgrade. Kinda blows if you asked me.
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I recently inquired with VZW about retaining my unlimited data in the event I should upgrade to the Note 3. They said on 2 separate occasions that they are no longer grandfathering unlimited data. The next best thing was 2GB. This has really forced me to reconsider whether or not I want to upgrade. Kinda blows if you asked me.
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VZW always says this. Don't believe them, there are a few ways to have a work around. Like if you have a family plan, you can add a line and upgrade it, activate it on that line, and switch it. If you have a smart phone that has a 2gb plan already, or anything other than unlimited, you can upgrade that phone, activate it, and switch it.
The third way is if you have an upgrade available you can transfer your upgrade to a different line, activate it on that line, and switch it back. That is what i'm asking because i've done it the other two ways, but not this third way. I'm trying to figure it out, because I'm sure I switched the upgrade, but it STILL SAYS that my line is the one being upgraded and not the one i transferred it to.

[Q] Upgrading from Rezound

Hello Everyone,
I in the next few days I will be available for a device upgrade. I am going to go from a Rezound to S4 but I am concerned about my unlimited data.
I still have unlimited data on my plan, will upgrading my device change this?
I know now they are forcing everyone into tiered plans but I was hoping this would not change my plan. My wife and I are on a shared plan and she had to get a 2GB data plan when she got her Rhyme. I was grandfathered into my unlimited when I got my Rezound. I also still have the 500 txt messages for $5 a month which they do not offer anymore. I hope that does not get changed either
Thanks,
Ian...
if you get the phone subsidized you lose unlimited, if you have another line you can take and activate the new phone on then move the phone back to your unlimited line you should be good. just don't activate the subsidized device on the unlimited line or you are toast. at least I think that's how it all works.
Spyke562 said:
Hello Everyone,
I in the next few days I will be available for a device upgrade. I am going to go from a Rezound to S4 but I am concerned about my unlimited data.
I still have unlimited data on my plan, will upgrading my device change this?
I know now they are forcing everyone into tiered plans but I was hoping this would not change my plan. My wife and I are on a shared plan and she had to get a 2GB data plan when she got her Rhyme. I was grandfathered into my unlimited when I got my Rezound. I also still have the 500 txt messages for $5 a month which they do not offer anymore. I hope that does not get changed either
Thanks,
Ian...
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You need to buy the phone outright at full price to retain your unlimited if you can't do the alternative line option corporal_hades pointed out. Verizon is offering financing to split the cost over 12 months with an additional $2 a month charge I believe.
I'm in the same boat you're in, I would like to upgrade, don't wanna give up my unlimited either.
Thanks for the information guys. Sometimes it seems like Verizon and the other carriers got us by the [email protected]
Don't forget the Moto X is $399, and the LG G2, HTC One, and Droid Ultra are $449 off contract now... just one more way to keep unlimited data.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/2...-retail-with-no-hassle-use-the-iconic-portal/
It may also be worth it to decide if you really need unlimited data, or change your usage somewhat to get within 2 or 4 GB of data a month, you can save a lot if you can make some changes to your usage and get on WiFi more.
I know corporate stores will not do it, but one of the smaller Verizon stores I went into the other day said I could use my upgrade to get a new phone on my wife's life(alternate upgrade), then do a hardware swap to put the new phone on my line. It wouldn't hurt to ask a few of the stores around you to see if theyll do that.
She said if I did this I would be able to keep my unlimited.
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I upgraded to the HTC one through best buy and was able to keep my unlimited plan. I upgraded the phone on my account that's already on the tiered data plan. Then switched the new phone to my unlimited line at the Verizon store. Best buy or Verizon didn't give me any problems doing it. Small price to pay to keep unlimited data.
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Question about upgrading and plan.

So I saw a post the other day about a loophole where I can keep my unlimited data. I have 2 plans. Plan 1 is my plan which is eligible for a upgrade and has unlimited data. Plan 2 is wife's which is eligible and has 2gb data plan. What I did was pre order the g3 on mine and changed to share everything ande lost my unlimited. I called Verizon and they said if I returned the phone by mail it would undo everything and I would get my old plan back. I didn't touch the phone, it's still in the box going back today.
My question is can I go to Verizon tonight, purchase another g3 on the wife's line, activate on the wife's line, switch it over to my line, and then when the pre ordered g3 gets back to them my plan goes back to unlimited like before. I feeling that should be fine, I just don't want to screw anything up.
I called cs again and they said it could complicate things if I activate another phone attached to the plan I'm temporary on. I guess I will just wait then
Stop doing it through Verizon. Don't activate the sim 3rd party provides.
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Stop doing it through Verizon. Don't activate the sim 3rd party provides.
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I have no idea what you are trying to tell me. Buy the phone through a 3rd party? What does that get me I still have to pick a plan.
Yeah. Check your PM.
leyvatron said:
Yeah. Check your PM.
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I read that option but honestly I would rather do my method. It's not as sketchy as that and completely within Verizon policy to switch phones between plans. Best buy and Verizon could suddenly make that method not work. Since my wife doesn't have unlimited I might as well upgrade her with the g3 and move it over to mine.
I couldn't even buy the phone at best buy now because my plan isn't even unlimited data until they get the phone back. Thanks though.
Ok, here's what you do (I just did it on TWO lines yesterday).
Go to Best Buy. They're more helpful and aren't as stickler as VZW people are. Tell them that you can't upgrade your line since you don't want to lose unlimited data (and you always buy your phones used off Craigslist now), but your wife REALLY wants the LG G3. You want to surprise her with a new phone, so you would like to transfer the upgrade to her line and get her a new phone. Make sure that they understand you want your unlimited and DO NOT WANT TO LOSE IT.
They'll process the upgrade and everything.
Now take that phone back to your wife, put the SIM from the NEW phone (since it's her SIM now) into her phone, then put YOUR SIM into the new LG G3.
Boom. Doesn't fux with your unlimited data because you're using your old SIM.
Source: I've done this exact thing on my line with an S4, S5, and the G3 now. Works like a charm
mooglepimp said:
Ok, here's what you do (I just did it on TWO lines yesterday).
Go to Best Buy. They're more helpful and aren't as stickler as VZW people are. Tell them that you can't upgrade your line since you don't want to lose unlimited data (and you always buy your phones used off Craigslist now), but your wife REALLY wants the LG G3. You want to surprise her with a new phone, so you would like to transfer the upgrade to her line and get her a new phone. Make sure that they understand you want your unlimited and DO NOT WANT TO LOSE IT.
They'll process the upgrade and everything.
Now take that phone back to your wife, put the SIM from the NEW phone (since it's her SIM now) into her phone, then put YOUR SIM into the new LG G3.
Boom. Doesn't fux with your unlimited data because you're using your old SIM.
Source: I've done this exact thing on my line with an S4, S5, and the G3 now. Works like a charm
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Can I not switch the phone from her line to mine after I get it? Since her line doesn't have unlimited I'll just buy it on hers and switch it to mine. Am I missing something? I'm just not understanding why I can't just do it through Verizon. I'll use her upgrade to buy the g3,switch the phone to my line, then transfer my upgrade to hers later.
here is what you do. transfer your upgrade via my Verizon wireless to her line. upgrade to G3. When you get it put her sim out of her current phone in it. Make sure it switches to G3 on her line on my Verizon. Take sim out put back in her old phone and put your sim in the G3! Boom! keep unlimted intact on your line and still have her upgrade. Only thing I don't know is you may have to use her upgrade. never done when two lines both have upgrades
Ok. If the upgrade is already on her line, it's no problem. Use the upgrade online (after Verizon gets your order back and your bill reverts to unlimited for your line), go in and have them swap the devices around and you'll be fine. Heck, you may be able to get by with just swapping out the SIM cards, no store trip needed. At least, that's how it worked for me:
Moved my upgrade over to my mother's dumb phone line. Pre-ordered the G3 online. When it arrived, I removed the pre-installed SIM and popped the one from my S4 in. The phone now shows up on my line on My Verizon. Swung by the store today to make sure I didn't need to do anything else. Rep I talked to (thankfully a guy into mobile tech) said everything looked good and we didn't have to do anything further...that my unlimited line wouldn't be touched now.
In short...Order online, do everything you can do yourself. Don't call CS or deal with store reps unless you absolutely have to.
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Can I not switch the phone from her line to mine after I get it? Since her line doesn't have unlimited I'll just buy it on hers and switch it to mine. Am I missing something? I'm just not understanding why I can't just do it through Verizon. I'll use her upgrade to buy the g3,switch the phone to my line, then transfer my upgrade to hers later.
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Ahh, ya. I missed that part. If she has an upgrade, just buy the phone with HER upgrade and pop your SIM into it. Tell them that you're using her upgrade for yourself though, otherwise they'll deactivate her SIM for the new one that they're putting into the phone. Then you pop it in and have them activate her phone. She shouldn't be without service for more than a few minutes.
The way that I described it is how you'll use your upgrade WITHOUT losing your data plan.
I don't think she has a sim. She has an iPhone 4s. She doesn't want a new phone, that's why both lines are open. I'll just activate it with the new sim on her account and switch it to mine right after.
Back to my first question though lol, can I go in and get the phone now with her upgrade and switch it before the other phone gets back to them? I'm worried that upgrading her line while my plan is still not unlimited until the phone gets back to them will keep the plan stuck even after they get the phone back from my account. I'm just being impatient and want the phone now and don't feel like waiting for the return to process
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I don't think she has a sim. She has an iPhone 4s. She doesn't want a new phone, that's why both lines are open. I'll just activate it with the new sim on her account and switch it to mine right after.
Back to my first question though lol, can I go in and get the phone now with her upgrade and switch it before the other phone gets back to them?
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Just wait! Honestly dude, consider yourself extremely lucky that they're even giving you your unlimited data back. That rarely ever happens. I would definitely not push it. Just be patient.
Also, you said in your post that you and your wife have separate accounts. Do you mean separate lines on this same plan or two separate plans completely? If it's too seprate accounts I'd very careful about switching the phone from 1 account to the other. Technically they can charge you full price for the phone if it leaves the account that it was bought on. I believe you have to wait 6 months or maybe a little bit more. that rule may have changed from a year ago when I worked there, but you might want to double check cause that phone cost a lot of money.
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