Swapit ram expander - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, I just wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of SWAPIT RAM EXPANDER. Cuz I am planning to buy it.
Some say it will wear out the SDcard. I'm in a dilemma to buy it or not.
Any suggestions ?

lakshay03 said:
Well, I just wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of SWAPIT RAM EXPANDER. Cuz I am planning to buy it.
Some say it will wear out the SDcard. I'm in a dilemma to buy it or not.
Any suggestions ?
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Question: Do you REALLY need more RAM? are you constantly running out of memory followwed by a "no free memory" error? If no: Then you don't need this app.
This kind of apps will wear out the SD-card pretty fast if you are a heavy memory user (Using lots of apps at the same time)
And the apps that gets "moved out of the way" will be a lot slower too. Sure, the currently running app might load a tiiiny tad bit faster, but thats it. Is it worth having all the other running apps slowed down to a glued-frozen-snail pace?

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I don't think that you really need that, why don't you try to install ROM Toolbox, and set dedicated memory for some apps and decrease for others
Here Rom Toolbox Review

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lakshay03 said:
Well, I just wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of SWAPIT RAM EXPANDER. Cuz I am planning to buy it.
Some say it will wear out the SDcard. I'm in a dilemma to buy it or not.
Any suggestions ?
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well you can use that app if you have a class8 or class10 microSD card. the card will wear out only if you swap a bigger size into class2 and class4 microSD card. try swapper 2 in play store, it is good too and free. i have my sandisk 32 gb class10 microSD and i use swapper 2 to have more ram. my SD card runs well for about 1 year now. please press thanks button if i helped you. cheers..

I just have buy a brand new SanDisk Ultra Android 32GB SDSDQUA-032G-U46A of 32GB for my SE Neo V, it is ok if i use any Swap program to activate this function? How fast will perform the device when swap is on? My memory card is Class 10 UHS-1 30MB/s will wear out slowly if i will use a 4GB for swap? From what i know bigger swap file means less write cycles.

lakshay03 said:
Well, I just wanted to know what are the advantages and disadvantages of SWAPIT RAM EXPANDER. Cuz I am planning to buy it.
Some say it will wear out the SDcard. I'm in a dilemma to buy it or not.
Any suggestions ?
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I use this program but I must tell You it doesn't make any big difference. I have sd card class 4, the program sais it uses up to 90mb of it's expanded RAM, but somehow I can't see a big difference in free memory. Maybe if You had some better class of the sd card, then You could use it, else don't even buy it.
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[Q] Is 16GB enough for SGS3 and everyday comprehensive use?

I know, i can have external memory, but it is slow comparing to NAND internal memory
How much of internal memory will left after all the system? 11GB?
On my galaxy s 16gb (rough comparison) SD card partition is 13.4 and app partition is 1.8. Rest is system partitions.
Touchwiz will probably take a bit more and Samsung may partition differently.
Its enough for me end up with 4gb free
With 5gb music.
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if i read it right the built in 16 gb will have 10.5 gb usable as internal sd which is 1 gb lesser than my sgs2. Thank god sgs3 has the sdcard slot .
bala_gamer said:
if i read it right the built in 16 gb will have 10.5 gb usable as internal sd which is 1 gb lesser than my sgs2. Thank god sgs3 has the sdcard slot .
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I am getting the 64gb version plus the 64gb SD XC card I got now....128gb heaven....
pachi72 said:
I am getting the 64gb version plus the 64gb SD XC card I got now....128gb heaven....
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Do you really carry 128 gb of data's with your phone. Then get a extra battery too.
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forumhookersdotcom said:
Do you really carry 128 gb of data's with your phone. Then get a extra battery too.
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Yes I do.. And that data is my music.. I don't like cloud streaming at all.
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Taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25767422#post25767422
Partition sizes:
/system: 1G (might more: df command rounding error), 315Mb Free.
/data: 11G (shared with /sdcard, pure Ext4)
/cache: 1G
Mount options: optimized Ext4 settings (same as those introduced in Voodoo lagfix)
Sd Cards & additional storage.
Internal: /mnt/sdcard
External: /mnt/extSdCard
USB sticks: /mnt/UsbDriveA to FAK8975C
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Damn ill take a 16 gb and 16 ext. Also the ext battery but deff not both 64.
Where have you seen info about extended batteries?
I never use more than 3 gig on my phone so 16 gig is plenty. Out of the 3 gig that I use, most of it is ROMs and kernels that are on it
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I'll be happy with the 16GB one, already have a 32GB card but i may get a 64GB card too.
Yes. Put a 62 GB SD card in it and there you have it you will never run out of storage. Plus you can utilize the Dropbox Storage they give u
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To each their own.
I think I'll buy a 32 Gb phone and buy an sd later as and when required. (Since internal memory is faster)
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CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Yes. Put a 62 GB SD card in
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You meant 64 GB
i think ill grab a 16GB version of the GS3..already have class 4 32GB never used it had it on my note but i returned it due to pixel issues..still a virgin but now i might get the higher speed sandisk 64GB.. that way when i get new Nexus/NOTE2/GS4 ect.. ill just buy the ones that have the lowest GB built inn and just popped the 64GB.. im good with a built in 16GB..got to love this SD slots coming from a iphone/ipad user..still like my apple stuff but its time for a change
question ? whats faster internal memory or the new Sandisk card when the phone reads it..i mean the Sandisk reads 30mb sec* i mean that plenty fast already..will there be a big difference when the phone reads the internal memory or the SD high read cards.?
will my class 4 32GB work good enough on the GS3? will there be like a little lag due to its a calss 4? or thats good enough?
markysd said:
i think ill grab a 16GB version of the GS3..already have class 4 32GB never used it had it on my note but i returned it due to pixel issues..still a virgin but now i might get the higher speed sandisk 64GB.. that way when i get new Nexus/NOTE2/GS4 ect.. ill just buy the ones that have the lowest GB built inn and just popped the 64GB.. im good with a built in 16GB..got to love this SD slots coming from a iphone/ipad user..still like my apple stuff but its time for a change
question ? whats faster internal memory or the new Sandisk card when the phone reads it..i mean the Sandisk reads 30mb sec* i mean that plenty fast already..will there be a big difference when the phone reads the internal memory or the SD high read cards.?
will my class 4 32GB work good enough on the GS3? will there be like a little lag due to its a calss 4? or thats good enough?
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No, there won't be any lag
Class 4 is good ....
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I'll buy 32GB SGS3
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markysd said:
i think ill grab a 16GB version of the GS3..already have class 4 32GB never used it had it on my note but i returned it due to pixel issues..still a virgin but now i might get the higher speed sandisk 64GB.. that way when i get new Nexus/NOTE2/GS4 ect.. ill just buy the ones that have the lowest GB built inn and just popped the 64GB.. im good with a built in 16GB..got to love this SD slots coming from a iphone/ipad user..still like my apple stuff but its time for a change
question ? whats faster internal memory or the new Sandisk card when the phone reads it..i mean the Sandisk reads 30mb sec* i mean that plenty fast already..will there be a big difference when the phone reads the internal memory or the SD high read cards.?
will my class 4 32GB work good enough on the GS3? will there be like a little lag due to its a calss 4? or thats good enough?
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San disk 64gb is class 6
sent from a 96gb N7000
NAND memory, the integrated one, is the one used in SSD disks. It is faster than SD cards

[Q] what is the big deal?

What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
yes. the internal sd goes from 8 to 16gb and then the working ram from a half a gig to a full gig. maybe the later gives it a tiny speed boost ? maybe...
There's a bit more to it than that. Fattire broke down some of the key differences when the 8GB launched.
Also, one should note that no version of B&N's OS before 1.4.2 will work on the 8GB and there are quite a few roms (I think all of the cm7 based ones) that will not work on the internal memory of the 8GB model without some modification.
Also, less RAM = less multitasking capability. Someone actually made a point the other day that we oddly enough differentiate between the two based on the internal memory size (8GB vs. 16GB) when in reality, the important difference is actually the RAM, as this actually has performance implications on the device.
karrb said:
What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
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I found my way here while trying to make an informed decision. I could be totally wrong, but it looked to me like the 16GB has 2X the support from this amazingly talented pool of xdadevelopers. (SOLD! )
Oh, yeah. And the 8GB is cheaper, too.
424aca said:
there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
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If that's the case, then does the difference between the 8 and the Nook Color come down to the processor and the price?
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Nook Tablet is lighter, has better battery life, a microphone (though it doesn't have bluetooth and the nook color does, albeit short ranged) and as you mentioned the better processor, which is kind of important.
So I should I even root my nook tablet (8gb) yet, will it just give me the market?
It depends on what you want.
Just rooting will give you access to the google play store which has a ton more apps than the B&N app store. You could install a custom launcher (like go launcher or adw launcher) to give it a full user interface change as well. Or you could install a custom rom like cm7/cm9 for a complete OS change.

[Q] Micro SD cards

Hi guys
I'm looking to buy a Micro sd card, samsung 32GB, class 10
So my questions are:
1- If someone already using sd card just like this one, tell me is it working fine with your android device?
2- Do you think that patriot or some other manufacturer cards are better then samsung?
3- Does your phone in some cases really feals faster with an sd card with bigger class number ( does reading speed of your card effect phone's speed? )
4- I heard that class 6 ( 6 MBps ) is more than enough for android devices, and also that some class 10 cards slow down a device, is it true?
5- Will i ever have enough memory on my phone
I know that there are the same threads on forum somewhere, but i need answers quickly and thats why im opening this one..
Marchello1 said:
Hi guys
I'm looking to buy a Micro sd card, samsung 32GB, class 10
So my questions are:
1- If someone already using sd card just like this one, tell me is it working fine with your android device?
2- Do you think that patriot or some other manufacturer cards are better then samsung?
3- Does your phone in some cases really feals faster with an sd card with bigger class number ( does reading speed of your card effect phone's speed? )
4- I heard that class 6 ( 6 MBps ) is more than enough for android devices, and also that some class 10 cards slow down a device, is it true?
5- Will i ever have enough memory on my phone
I know that there are the same threads on forum somewhere, but i need answers quickly and thats why im opening this one..
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1. It works fine.
2. It just user preference. Their both great.
3. Reading and writing to the SD card will be faster. It won't affect phone speed unless your device is using certain mods such as swaps, int.ext. sd swaps, etc. or you have apps on your SD card.
4. While class 6 may be quite fast for a device, there is no way a class 10 could be slower.
5. That's up to you .
tnx Theonew
if i understood it well, an app called swapper 2 can allow device to use some memory from partitioned sd card like a ram memory and provide it a slightly better multitasking, and speed.. ?
And i have read that it can also affect an sd card's life..
So, is it worth it?
Marchello1 said:
tnx Theonew
if i understood it well, an app called swapper 2 can allow device to use some memory from partitioned sd card like a ram memory and provide it a slightly better multitasking, and speed.. ?
And i have read that it can also affect an sd card's life..
So, is it worth it?
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Yes, swapping can degrade the life of the SD card but it is worth it if your device is a low-end one (and slow). It will assist in stuff like gaming, etc.
No, I really don't think its worth it. It really affects the cards life and does not really add much ram, even for slow phones...
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krismerful said:
No, I really don't think its worth it. It really affects the cards life and does not really add much ram, even for slow phones...
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An additional 256mb is quite a lot compared to 192mb (total).
Quick benchmark of Samsung SD card class 10 in the ASUS Transformer TF101.
Code:
[email protected]:/home/kuisma# hdparm -t /dev/block/mmcblk1p2
/dev/block/mmcblk1p2:
Timing buffered disk reads: 60 MB in 3.09 seconds = 19.43 MB/sec
Reference, the internal nand flash (/data partition):
Code:
[email protected]:/home/kuisma# hdparm -t /dev/block/mmcblk0p7
/dev/block/mmcblk0p7:
Timing buffered disk reads: 52 MB in 3.10 seconds = 16.79 MB/sec
If comparing read vs write, large blocks vs small, sequential vs random etc, the SD Cards wins a few times, the internal flash a few. It's more or less a draw. I would say this SD card got "good enough" performance, although far from SSD performance.
good enough for smartphone
are you talking about solid state disk?
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Marchello1 said:
are you talking about solid state disk?
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"SSD" was referring to "solid state disk", yes.
i found one for a 40€, micro sd, 32 gb class 10, its a good price here, im buying it next week
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[Q] buying xperia sola

hey guys, i know that xperia sola has 8gb internal memory but 5gb user available right?
so which memory card should i buy?
should i buy 16gb or 8gb would be enough?
i only gonna put like 50 songs, probably one 720p video which usually takes 700mb, some casual android games from the market, and some heavy gameloft games like mc3, nova and so on.
which should i buy considering it has 5gb internal memory available for user which makes it a total of 11gb if i 8gb+internal memory and a total of 19gb if 16gb+internal memory.
and which colour colour should i pick. white or red? i dont want black i have been using so many phones with black colour my whole life so white or red? :laugh:
If u have to put so many things on the memory i suggest u to take a 16 gb class 10, a ext sd card make all very slow if it is not enogh good!
I prefer the red one,but when i bought it there is only white -.-
Since the price is almost the same for 8&16 (at least where I live) I'd get a 16. You won't have to worry about the space if you decide to put more files in it later on.
But make sure the class is high enough or it will make your device laggy. I'm not sure what class would be good enough for android as I always use the class 10 cards from my cameras, but I think 4 minimum.
Oh and I'd get red, it's an eye catcher.
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First of all the user accessible memory is 4gb only.
Now to answer your question, it'd be better if you go for 16gb.
Reason - You said that you will play heavy games like mc3. Now when you install these games from the play store, they download a big chunk of data on your internal memory (usually 1gb+) now since the user accessible internal mem is just 4 gb, you'll only be able to keep 2-3 games at max.
But there is an app by the name "gl to sd". Using this app, you can transfer those "big chunks" of game data to your external memory. (requires root).
Now you can keep around 5-6 games along with those songs and 720p movies you mentioned.
I am using Xperia Sola with a class 4 16gb mem card. have about 5-6 big games(mc3, asphalt 7. dead space, gta3, max payne etc), around 300+ songs, and still have 3-4 gb free in my mem card. Moreover I keep my internal mem of 4gb as free as possible.
Argasil said:
If u have to put so many things on the memory i suggest u to take a 16 gb class 10, a ext sd card make all very slow if it is not enogh good!
I prefer the red one,but when i bought it there is only white -.-
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16gb it is! thanks.
class 10 card is expensive here so im just gonna take 16gb class 6 :laugh:
Sirence said:
Since the price is almost the same for 8&16 (at least where I live) I'd get a 16. You won't have to worry about the space if you decide to put more files in it later on.
But make sure the class is high enough or it will make your device laggy. I'm not sure what class would be good enough for android as I always use the class 10 cards from my cameras, but I think 4 minimum.
Oh and I'd get red, it's an eye catcher.
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i thought red color looks amazing too
rohit3221 said:
First of all the user accessible memory is 4gb only.
Now to answer your question, it'd be better if you go for 16gb.
Reason - You said that you will play heavy games like mc3. Now when you install these games from the play store, they download a big chunk of data on your internal memory (usually 1gb+) now since the user accessible internal mem is just 4 gb, you'll only be able to keep 2-3 games at max.
But there is an app by the name "gl to sd". Using this app, you can transfer those "big chunks" of game data to your external memory. (requires root).
Now you can keep around 5-6 games along with those songs and 720p movies you mentioned.
I am using Xperia Sola with a class 4 16gb mem card. have about 5-6 big games(mc3, asphalt 7. dead space, gta3, max payne etc), around 300+ songs, and still have 3-4 gb free in my mem card. Moreover I keep my internal mem of 4gb as free as possible.
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thank you im gonna take the 16gb card class 6.
about moving apps from internal memory to sd. im not too worry about it. i recommend Link2sd. it is much much better than any apps out there that have the function to move apps to sd.
Izzy Stinson said:
16gb it is! thanks.
class 10 card is expensive here so im just gonna take 16gb class 6 :laugh:
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That should be fine, I think class 10 is overkill.
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[Q] [XU]User available memory in Xperia U

Hi,
Im thinking of getting the xperia U but the lack of SD card slot is really putting me off. whats more gsmarena says that out of the 8GB available only 4 GB can be used.
Why?
whats in the remaining 4 GB, no ROM file is that big to take up 4GB. is there a way to unlock all memory for use? If that happens I would love it as I am more than content with 8GB of memory
Thank you
Its divided by
4GB = user available (for photo, music etc) as SDcard.
2GB = for application your installed as Internal memory
2GB = for android system
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the size can be abit of a problem but if you use it wisely you'll be ok at thats how i see it
(tip! if you want more space when you do buy the phone make sure you format the sd of it to gain the whole 4gb as half of it is in use give or take)

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