I've been noticing for awhile now that my mobile data speed has been really crapping out, even worse than usual for where I live in the middle of nowhere. I've tried the .30 .36 & .37 radios with many APN configurations all ending up with about .3Mbps down and 1Mbps up. Now that sucks, but the area where I live is a primarily edge are so I let this go.
However, yesterday my family drove to the coast in Texas from central Texas and in every major city we went through and everywhere the phone said it was getting a solid H+ signal I did a speed test and to my surprise I got around the .3 down and 1 up every time I did. Now that we're here at the coast I have a solid H+ connection and I've tried switching radios and such to still get the same results and the only thing I can figure is that AT&T is throttling my UNLIMITED plan when I have barely hit 5 gigs in a month maybe once or twice in the 5 years I've had the plan.
Obviously if they are throttling me no one can really help me, but im posting here hoping someone out there knows another reason I might be getting such consistent crappy results, and maybe a way to fix it. I appreciate any help anyone has to offer.
Log into your account and look at how much data you've used this current billing period. If it isn't much, then you can probably rule out throttling.
Well my billing period restarts on the 16th so I'm only two days in and I can't have only have used much.
So the throttling resets each month? I just figured once throttled always, which is even more ridiculious but this is AT&T I'm talking about.
Did you even call them to ask? Maybe think there could be issues in the area like tower work/maintenance going on? Sounds like you are just throwing a tantrum when you haven't even bothered calling AT&T or checked your data usage. Maybe the extreme heat has cause problems! Who knows...........but spouting off here about being throttled with no evidence of throttling is kind of pointless and useless!
At&t sent me a text before they would start throttling! Told me over 2 gig is over the limit
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Did you even call them to ask? Maybe think there could be issues in the area like tower work/maintenance going on? Sounds like you are just throwing a tantrum when you haven't even bothered calling AT&T or checked your data usage. Maybe the extreme heat has cause problems! Who knows...........but spouting off here about being throttled with no evidence of throttling is kind of pointless and useless!
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Okay dude, chill. I am not throwing any kind of tantrum, but the only thing I can think of that would give me such consistent results as I drove across the state of TEXAS using multiple towers as I passed is throttling so excuse me if I assume. Now then if you read the whole title you'll see I asked at the end if maybe I messed something up. Accepting possible fault if someone were to come on here with some kind of positive helpful information indicating that maybe they had done something and is now having the same thing happen. And I fail to see how your rant is useful or has a point. I rarely call AT&T since I have had very poor customer service experience with them and usually good response with some kind of help on here, usually. And if you had read my other comment you would have seen that I stated usual data usage and that I'm only two days into this months billing cycle. Anything else you want to gripe about or did I cover everything?
As far as 2 gigs being the limit, I know there are many months, espically heavy development months since my phone is my only real source of internet access, I have pulled 3 or 4 gigs without receiving a throttling notice or noticing a hit on my data speeds. I'm not trying to call you out in that, I'm just giving my personal experience on the matter, but thanks for the input.
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Okay dude, chill. I am not throwing any kind of tantrum, but the only thing I can think of that would give me such consistent results as I drove across the state of TEXAS using multiple towers as I passed is throttling so excuse me if I assume. Now then if you read the whole title you'll see I asked at the end if maybe I messed something up. Accepting possible fault if someone were to come on here with some kind of positive helpful information indicating that maybe they had done something and is now having the same thing happen. And I fail to see how your rant is useful or has a point. I rarely call AT&T since I have had very poor customer service experience with them and usually good response with some kind of help on here, usually. And if you had read my other comment you would have seen that I stated usual data usage and that I'm only two days into this months billing cycle. Anything else you want to gripe about or did I cover everything?
As far as 2 gigs being the limit, I know there are many months, espically heavy development months since my phone is my only real source of internet access, I have pulled 3 or 4 gigs without receiving a throttling notice or noticing a hit on my data speeds. I'm not trying to call you out in that, I'm just giving my personal experience on the matter, but thanks for the input.
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"All unlimited-data-plan users who exceed 3GB of data in a single month will now experience reduced speeds on AT&T’s 3G network for the remainder of their billing cycles. 4G subscribers, meanwhile, can use up to 5GB of data in a billing period, after which data speeds will be throttled. AT&T notes that users on the unlimited plan can still use as much data as they like, just at compromised speeds."
"Mobile Services. Service performance may be affected by your proximity to a cell site, the capacity of the cell site, the number of other users connected to the same cell site, the surrounding terrain, use inside a building or a moving vehicle, radio frequency interference, the capabilities of your device, and the applications you use."
Also, you are in TX. I lived in the Houston area and Dallas. I have driven all over that state, so I know what it is like there. High humidity which parts of TX definitely has could be affecting your signal:
"The amount of water vapor suspended in the air is the aspect of the weather that can have the most significant effect on your phone signal. The high frequency radio signals used by cell towers travel best through air that is neither too dry or too damp. If the ambient humidity shifts too far in either direction, signal strength can suffer."
"According to cellphone resource site Cell Phone Advisor, the level of humidity can affect a device's ability to receive signals. Phone signals travel best when the air carries some moisture but is not humid. Extreme levels of humidity are caused by a large amount of moisture in the air and this can affect the radio waves that carry signals to and from your phone. Equally, very dry air with extremely low humidity can affect signals. However, this is usually not noticeable and too much moisture in the air is more likely to affect a signal than too little."
I did read your whole post. I just don't see anything there which shows you are being throttled, and you felt the need to emphasise the throttling by capitalising the word "unlimited". What are you using to measure your data speed with? What application? If it's an app like Speedtest.net are you sure you are setting the app to the closest location to where you are when measuring speed? Are you taking into account that the site you are testing through might be slow? I can run Speedtest through several different providers in the Boston area and get vastly different results because the test sites all have different bandwidths. Similarly, if you are driving across a state/s and you do not update to the closest location you could be speed testing from through the same provider location, but getting further away all the time, or at the very least getting the same results because you are using the same provider to test through.
*data# will answer your data use question.
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Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
Well, it's Sprint, so that's normal 3G speeds...
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
my 3g used to be fire!!! now it seems as if everybody has joined sprint and the network is hella saturated!!!!!!!
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Every once and a while I'll check my speed test app to see what im getting for 3G download speed. Lately ive been getting over 1000 ping and like .1 mbps download. I went in and did a data profile reset and that fixed the problem. This has happened to me multiple times over the past couple of weeks.
Has this happened to anyone else? And if so, are devs going to fix this in their roms when the bootloader is unlocked?
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Depends on your location. If you check the Sprint forums, there are tons of people complaining about data speeds all over the country. There's certain areas in the Bronx where I have full 4G and only getting 0.50mbps down...it's crazy!
I would say do a ##3282# and make sure your EVDO is set to auto not CDMA. Menu>commit changes & reboot. Update PRL then profile. I guess you've done that?
i was told that for the last month and a half it was because of thunderstorms. i asked him since there are just a few towers between the 44 miles i drive to work, how did all those storms only hit sprint's antennae and not verizon's that are on the same towers?
i talked to a gm at the sprint store last night and he said they're having major data issues and there's no time frame of when they'll ever be fixed. just outside that sprint store i have full 5 bars on 3g and only get 100kb/s. i made sure i was outside of the sprint store's range just in case they had a 3g airave.
they did fix the slow data in my city and most of the areas where i drive to work. now min of 600Kb/s and up to 1.8Mb/s
I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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I find Sprint's network getting worse and worse...they're loading it up with new customers enticed by high end smartphones, but they're not boosting the capacity to match their growth. What scares me is, how much lower is it going to go? :/
Around here I get about 75-200kbps down. It can go to less than 40kbps during lunchtime.
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they will let it go pretty far. currently the tower that services my house will be so overloaded during the evening hours that speeds are 0-5k. last night between 7-11pm 3g was unuseable and 4g was zooming at 20k.
ive had dates of april 30th, may 30th, june 30th, and now july 30th as dates when the towers were to be upgraded. i honestly think they just throw dates around so they can get you off the phone.
Same here. During peak hours data is unusable without a wifi connection. I called so many times to put service tickets on the local towers. It's so fustrating. Everytime I call I'm on the phone for like 40mins tell them it's not my phone, it's a network issue. They just don't get it. BTW does anyone have the number for advanced sprint tech support? I'm going to keep calling until they fix the issue.
This is what bugs me so much paying the $10 Premium data Fee. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind paying the fee if I actually get premium data, but 100kbs down is not premium data. Something has to be done. What the hell are theying doing with that fee? They certainly aren't putting it back into their network. I hope Sprint doesn't get the Iphone because it will only get worse.
You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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Welcome to sprint. Where are you from?
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This what I was going to say. LOL
Welcome to Sprint the Nation Wide slowest 3G available.
Welcome to Sprint-The (hope you dont need to download that)Now Network
First, try this:
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[MOD] Data Latency (Slow Data) Fix
And second, it is not unusual. I have tried to play online games(BFBC2 etc.) via Wi-Fi hotspot. With poor success. Reasons for this is poor connection(long range to Cell-towers) network overcapacity etc. etc.
Shutting phone's Ciphering should raise U/D speed as above thread say, but I guess that there is not any mindblowing way to fix it. Updating radios would help but.
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I said it once and I'll say it again Location, Location, Location. I am Cali bay area(Currently in Lafayette, CA) and my Evo 4G just ran 962k down and 656k up 187 ping. Evo 3d same time test ran 164 ping 1038k down and 609k up. Now at my house in El Sobrante, CA about 15 minutes away I would not come close to touching that speed. Usually around 50k or worse. One thing is I never rely on 3g to do anything for me. I have wifi at home and work and at times 4g. If I am in 3g only location I do not expect to get anything important done.
Edit: Keep in mind I also did the speed fix on both phones. Have to have msl for that.
Here are a couple images for you one is my Verizon 3G Xoom and the other my EVO 3D. Lets face it Sprint speed sucks.
Those with poor eyes site the Xoom says:
Down:
1303.7
1331.6
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1455.7
1863.5
Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Im gonna guess the people that get these good speeds are in sparse areas or areas with few sprint customers. I've been complaining about Sprint speeds since October of last year and its only getting worse and worse. I can remember constant speeds of 1.2-1.8 megs down and now im doing good just to get 250kb/s. The 4G has fallen off quite a bit too.
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Same here and yes on the lack of sprint customers in some areas. I was on the very poor side of town earlier this week. I was getting 1.3-1.9mb down on 3g lol.
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You're not in 3G. Your in 1x when you get those speeds. The Display will always say 3G even when switch to 1x.
Once rooted, that can be fixed to reflect what you are really on.
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Actually I'm not 1x. I have a few programs to tell me what network I'm on and I'm definetly getting those speeds on EVDO Rev A. You can use Battery Monitor and go to "Tests" and it will tell you what network you are using or you can use Open Signal and go to maps and it will also tell you. I'm definetly getting these speeds on 3G (EVDO Rev A) Not 1x!
I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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I've already done the APN fix on these forums, and even with that I've seen no change. I average anywhere from 1.0-2.0 mbps on speedtest. Highest I've seen is 3.8mbps. That's a far cry from 7+.
With my old Infuse 4g in the same areas I've averaged about 5-7 mbps which makes a big difference, so I'm inclined to think something is wrong versus just bad luck.
Also, what gives with even 5-7, shouldn't H+ be hitting 10ish? Looking at the "4g" coverage map for AT&T, I'm smack in the middle of a fast area. I live in central NJ.
Any ideas guys? Thanks.
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Which APN are you on? 'phone' or 'wap.cingular'?
I'm grandfathered on one of the old accounts with 'unlimited' data.. and and I have to use wap.cingular..
I assure you, you aren't alone in this gripe.
If I didn't know any better I would call foul on AT&T. When my phone was new, I got anywhere from 1-6.5 at the highest, averaging around 3.5 maybe 4. It seems like as soon as I changed my plan to the 4G unlimited, my speeds refuse to go above 2.
I tries a SIM swap, the usual "fixes" and they even reset the data plan. No change. I haven't got higher than 2mb since June. And they swear up and down they aren't throttling me.
It would be nice if someone could explain this whole data deal.
Have you noticed though that performance doesn't seem slow at all though. My connection, even when streaming video doesn't so much as hiccup.
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They might be expecting an influx of SGS2 on their network in the coming weeks and might be trying to discourage excessive data usage and as with any new phone, people tend to download heavily with all the new apps and syncing.
There really shouldn't be any reason for such a big difference in speeds. Highly unlikely the phone itself is faulty as build quality is superb, but might be worth swapping for a new one just to rule it out. If that doesn't fix it, then ATT is must be doing something on their end to specifically limit the speeds of specific types of devices and that shady stuff doesn't surprise me.
Try different modems, as I have noticed a huge difference in speed, from Down/Up 50Kbps/200Kbps (odd) to 400Kbps/215Kbps depending on modem version and congestion, I think my local tower has crappy backhaul as well.
All my data for 3UK in the UK is here
By the way, I also average faster speeds with wap.cingular than the phone APN fix.
How is that possible, as that is directly opposite what MANY on here report?
Nc area. Speeds have took a serious drive. Only at like 3am my speeds are descent.
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I get 5-6 on average and 9-10 at like 1 am
Me too. But what do I get during the day, when u actually use your phone. Something has changed. Is sprint throttling bandwidth?
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I get 5-6 on average and 9-10 at like 1 am
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Where in NC are you b/c here in south raleigh they blow. i get MAX PEEK at like 4-5am and thats only about 0.8Mbps, and then by 9-10am the speeds drop off to roughly 0.25Mbps. I've seen many many times that by 4pm they drop off to 0.04Mbps. this of course is on 3G.
When i spoke to one of the techs on their forum he looked up and actually spoke with the Raleigh/Durham network market manager who said "switch upgrades scheduled for this weekend, BSC migrations, and optimization changes are scheduled to all take place by November 3. Site level solutions are in the pipeline with an ETA of 12/31 for noticeable market improvement"
Thanks for the update!!! I'm closer to the knightville area. I was really thinking about changing carriers but ill wait to after 12/31..
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I work in downtown Raleigh and 3g speeds have dropped significantly since last year. It can be unbearable at times.
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I'm at fort bragg and my speeds haven't changed much they have been a steady .3. I take trips up to chapple hill quite often and the 4g there is a steady 8megs and peaks at 10megs. But that's with speed test i still load YouTube faster than ATT and Verizon phones.
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wow sorry I have T-Mobile >_>
I forget the 3D is a sprint phone mostly in the states
you guys make it sound like sprint has ever had fast 3G speeds, its always been well below other carriers and well below 1mbps
bloodrain954 said:
you guys make it sound like sprint has ever had fast 3G speeds, its always been well below other carriers and well below 1mbps
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I get around 800-1.2 sometimes higher... but no 4g... and I live in a town of 60k so its not well "developed" but getting better than T-Mobile in my area
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welcome to sprint
I think the point has been well made (its always been bad). Their 3G network has been way way over sold. The decrease in speed lately is likely due to increased traffic of the holiday season. Also as it gets colder in all parts of the country more people spend more time in doors and the network gets even more use. Obviously as it gets later at night/early morning you see speeds increase slightly because less traffic.
This isn't something you will see get drastically better until many people are moved onto the LTE network, with very wide coverage, and a huge percentage of users have hardware capable of accessing that LTE network. This of course is if the LTE upgrade actually happens the way they say it will. People can say "oh it will work, you will see" all they want. That's great if it does, but don't count on everything working out the way they say it will. Hope it does, but don't count on it. It is highly dependent on third party funding, third party building up the network, not going bankrupt, their partners and investors not having funding problems, FCC approval, etc. All it takes for this to turn out like Wimax is for anyone of those things to go wrong.
Sprint has made the same promises with the same conditions they had when they tried to roll out Wimax. Clear had financial trouble, and the whole roll out stopped completely.
Well.. my 3G has always been between 2.0 - 2.5MB. My slowness until a few months ago. Some users say they are throttling because of the number of iPhone users. Don't know..
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I'm in Garner NC and I get decent speeds usually .78mbps download on 3g I can't pull more than 1mbps until late night. On 4G i can get around 2-4 download and 1 to 1.6 upload.
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you guys make it sound like sprint has ever had fast 3G speeds, its always been well below other carriers and well below 1mbps
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Thats not true, as of a few years ago sprint customers on average got higher 3g speeds than all the other carriers but since then everyone else has upgraded their networks while sprint has been on a steady decline.
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I think the point has been well made (its always been bad). Their 3G network has been way way over sold. The decrease in speed lately is likely due to increased traffic of the holiday season. Also as it gets colder in all parts of the country more people spend more time in doors and the network gets even more use. Obviously as it gets later at night/early morning you see speeds increase slightly because less traffic.
This isn't something you will see get drastically better until many people are moved onto the LTE network, with very wide coverage, and a huge percentage of users have hardware capable of accessing that LTE network. This of course is if the LTE upgrade actually happens the way they say it will. People can say "oh it will work, you will see" all they want. That's great if it does, but don't count on everything working out the way they say it will. Hope it does, but don't count on it. It is highly dependent on third party funding, third party building up the network, not going bankrupt, their partners and investors not having funding problems, FCC approval, etc. All it takes for this to turn out like Wimax is for anyone of those things to go wrong.
Sprint has made the same promises with the same conditions they had when they tried to roll out Wimax. Clear had financial trouble, and the whole roll out stopped completely.
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While most of what you say is true here the part about it not getting better till LTE is not likely true. Sprint has oversold their network but from what I've been told they are having to increase the switch capacity at the towers as they all bottleneck there on top of adding more T1 lines to.the stations. I was shown via email a screen shot of the work approved to add T1 line to my tower here and the guy said I had no idea how bad of a problem it is now, and they finally after all these years of seeing this happen are starting to get around to fixing it.
Just know come 2015 stuff here will be all good and most being complete by 2013. The thing I'm more mad about with sprint is the premier program going away.
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While most of what you say is true here the part about it not getting better till LTE is not likely true. Sprint has oversold their network but from what I've been told they are having to increase the switch capacity at the towers as they all bottleneck there on top of adding more T1 lines to.the stations. I was shown via email a screen shot of the work approved to add T1 line to my tower here and the guy said I had no idea how bad of a problem it is now, and they finally after all these years of seeing this happen are starting to get around to fixing it.
Just know come 2015 stuff here will be all good and most being complete by 2013. The thing I'm more mad about with sprint is the premier program going away.
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I definitely agree with the premier opinion. Using a T1 line to improve performance, that's a terrible idea in my opinion. I hope you were misinformed about that part, because in todays age using a T1 line from tower to backbone would be creating a bottleneck in and of itself. While a full T1 has bandwidth on its side it doesn't have throughput speed on its side. A full T1 has a mere 1.44mbit of throughput. That's a huge handicap. Todays' RESIDENTIAL coaxial cable lines are being fed by fiber optics and the throughput speed has effectively no technical limitations. We are seeing both DSL and cable at people's homes running at 50mbit, and as equipment keeps getting upgraded raising that number almost twice a year for Pennies cost of the ISP. So both the bandwidth and throughput of DSL and cable have far out preformed T1 lines and far cheaper to run and maintain.
Sprint has OC 192 lines for the backbone, and in many places have upgraded to OC 768. We are talking Terabits per second at the backbone level. 3G is capable of double or more throughput than T1's measly 1.44mbit, so that T1 just ends up creating bottle necks. If sprint was real cheap they wouldn't even be using full T1, but fractional and that 1.44 mbit gets cut into pieces. So....I really hope their solution to the bottle necks are not T1. If you were in fact correct, we basically won't ever see fast 3G
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I definitely agree with the premier opinion. Using a T1 line to improve performance, that's a terrible idea in my opinion. I hope you were misinformed about that part, because in todays age using a T1 line from tower to backbone would be creating a bottleneck in and of itself. While a full T1 has bandwidth on its side it doesn't have throughput speed on its side. A full T1 has a mere 1.44mbit of throughput. That's a huge handicap. Todays' RESIDENTIAL coaxial cable lines are being fed by fiber optics and the throughput speed has effectively no technical limitations. We are seeing both DSL and cable at people's homes running at 50mbit, and as equipment keeps getting upgraded raising that number almost twice a year for Pennies cost of the ISP. So both the bandwidth and throughput of DSL and cable have far out preformed T1 lines and far cheaper to run and maintain.
Sprint has OC 192 lines for the backbone, and in many places have upgraded to OC 768. We are talking Terabits per second at the backbone level. 3G is capable of double or more throughput than T1's measly 1.44mbit, so that T1 just ends up creating bottle necks. If sprint was real cheap they wouldn't even be using full T1, but fractional and that 1.44 mbit gets cut into pieces. So....I really hope their solution to the bottle necks are not T1. If you were in fact correct, we basically won't ever see fast 3G
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I'll double check my emails tomorrow as it did sound wired to me for them to be running T1 lines into the towers. He said most are adding more T1 lines in to boost capacity and all.
Like i said i thought it was wired bc my previous work hell we ran DS3 connection...
Edit:double checked and it is a T1 line for voice and another T1 for EVDO capacity because my tower near my home is overflooded like most are evidently. This is also aside from the actual switch upgrades he said were planned soon too. All of this has zero to do with the network vision rollout unfortunately for me. Lol
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I'll double check my emails tomorrow as it did sound wired to me for them to be running T1 lines into the towers. He said most are adding more T1 lines in to boost capacity and all.
Like i said i thought it was wired bc my previous work hell we ran DS3 connection...
Edit:double checked and it is a T1 line for voice and another T1 for EVDO capacity because my tower near my home is overflooded like most are evidently. This is also aside from the actual switch upgrades he said were planned soon too. All of this has zero to do with the network vision rollout unfortunately for me. Lol
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Ugh dude....this terrifies me. I hope he is trying to say they are adding more T1 lines. I think there is a way to combine multiple T1 lines to one tower. I'm not an expert on T1 lines, because that technology is getting very old (50+ years). T1 and T3 are the same thing. Basically T3 is just multiple T1 channels multiplexed, so you get close to 50 times the throughput. Even still there are so many cheaper alternatives I have no idea why they would choose this topology. Now, hopefully what they are really doing if they are using the technology is using many many T1 lines and multiplying the channels. However even a T5 only gets around 400 mbit. Again something like cable fed by fiber would be capable of that. I don't honestly have the expertise to guess whether it has enough bandwidth to keep speed high for 100+ people.
I just don't know enough to understand why they are doing it this way. Even if they were really using T3 it just wouldn't have enough bandwidth to hold very many people at high speed. Anymore than what they already have anyway. Someone with more knowledge needs to explain this to me.
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Ugh dude....this terrifies me. I hope he is trying to say they are adding more T1 lines. I think there is a way to combine multiple T1 lines to one tower. I'm not an expert on T1 lines, because that technology is getting very old (50+ years). T1 and T3 are the same thing. Basically T3 is just multiple T1 channels multiplexed, so you get close to 50 times the throughput. Even still there are so many cheaper alternatives I have no idea why they would choose this topology. Now, hopefully what they are really doing if they are using the technology is using many many T1 lines and multiplying the channels. However even a T5 only gets around 400 mbit. Again something like cable fed by fiber would be capable of that. I don't honestly have the expertise to guess whether it has enough bandwidth to keep speed high for 100+ people.
I just don't know enough to understand why they are doing it this way. Even if they were really using T3 it just wouldn't have enough bandwidth to hold very many people at high speed. Anymore than what they already have anyway. Someone with more knowledge needs to explain this to me.
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Yea obv its adding more T1 lines. Not saying they are running their first line to the tower.
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A lot of text further below, but a simple question or two I would be interested to get a response to: anyone else on the Three UK network noticed any signal issues and performance problems from new to recently? Did you find an answer that made sense? Did you receive one or two Samsung firmware updates from the day the Pebble Blue arrived (on 9th June I think?)
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I've had a good read through some similar threads here and elsewhere, but there is no gold standard answer so far that makes sense to me or anyone it seems. I have many thoughts running through my mind being new to Android coming from iPhone 4.
Phone is the S3 on Three UK network on the Dorset coast, typical signal strength at home is 3 of 4 bars and it now seems to cycle from H to either H+ or 3G, (but I could have sworn that I had more H+ when new?)
Initially Speedtest gave me a download of 6Mbps which knocked the socks off my O2 iphone (2Mbps), but over the past week/ten days I'm lucky to get 1Mbps at home (at work it has dropped from 1Mbps to 0.1) I've also had phone call issues where I can't hear them, but they can hear me (I know, it could be my provider, but I've checked their website daily and no issues are reported) and this is often with three or four bars. The amount of times websites can't load is frustrating and my other half's Blackberry seems to have no issue on Three. Data roaming is also set up.
Other threads have made me wonder about the firmware update. I know could flash, but there's no suggestion that this works. I also read somewhere that there should have been two updates for me, one at 21MB (which I downloaded) and a second at 31MB, which I have never seen or found OTA or on Kies.
Any opinions appreciated.
The problem is most likely the same as mine.
Since 22 May Three can roam 3g data (not just 2g calls/txts) onto the Tmobile/Orange network. Problem is if the nearest (strongest signal) cell is TMob/O it may well have a much lower bandwidth plus congestion which will dramatically affect internet useage. My dl speeds have gone from 5-6 mb down to 250kb with frequent timeouts. Unfortunately this doesnt constitute a network problem as far as Three are concerned, in fact they are [email protected]@ters because they have just told me thay have been trying to contact me for days re this on my landline number when I have never had a landline number to give them!!
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Chris
SSThing said:
The problem is most likely the same as mine.
Since 22 May Three can roam 3g data (not just 2g calls/txts) onto the Tmobile/Orange network. Problem is if the nearest (strongest signal) cell is TMob/O it may well have a much lower bandwidth plus congestion which will dramatically affect internet useage. My dl speeds have gone from 5-6 mb down to 250kb with frequent timeouts. Unfortunately this doesnt constitute a network problem as far as Three are concerned, in fact they are [email protected]@ters because they have just told me thay have been trying to contact me for days re this on my landline number when I have never had a landline number to give them!!
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Chris
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Thanks Chris, that all makes sense given what I've experienced and picked up in parts elsewhere. I am guessing that Orange are the other carrier as when I check available networks they do not show up, but instead a "second" Three network does (which does not allow a connection).
Having said that my DL speeds only changed since about mid June?
Not impressed
http://everythingeverywhere.com/
http://forums.reghardware.com/forum/1/2012/05/23/ee_network_intergration/
Im not impressed either. Whole reason for signing up on the One Plan was to do away with my landline (which I did as soon as I confirmed I was getting better dl from my phone). Now I am lucky if I can look at more than two or three webpages before my connection times out, BBCIplayer, 4od and other streaming sites are completely out of the question, as is the updating of my phone with CM9 or updating maps or other large file downloads.
As I have mentioned though, this does not constitute a problem as far as Three are concerned, increased coverage is their priority, they dont ACTUALLY want us to be using up data bandwidth. I have spoken at length to Ericsson who maintain the network who have confirmed the issue I am having, I mentioned to them I was considering cancelling my contract and swapping to TMobile and even they said no point, the issue ISNT with Three, its the fact I am connecting to the closest cell which is Tmob/O. I am quite rural and for years the ONLY network available here was Orange, so naturally most people around here are on Orange (who as we know only offer very restricted data allowances anyway). But all the Tmob/O customers are hogging the bandwidth with their FaceBooking and stuff leaving nothing for me, lol.
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Chris
I am also having this problem. I've had two SGS3s on Three and they're both been the same.
The thing is, my wife's is the same on Orange. I see a lot of other users are having this problem.
I'm browsing the Internet, with 'H', then it goes to '3G' and it just drops out. Phone calls are choppy at best. I can stream video for about a minute before it drops out.
Not impressed.
Hi Guys,
I thought I was going mad, I'm using a galaxy note and at the beginning I thought it was an issue with the phone.
I've had 4-6mb speeds going down to 1-1.5mb and upload speed not going above 100k and dropping, thus making voip telephony or skype virtually impossible.
I called up their tech support they tried to bull**** me with all kinds of excuses, I then told them I have a note a nexus and also tried the sim card on a sony p tablet all of them have the same issue, disgusting speeds.
Something is wrong with their network and this happened suddenly around the 25th of June around the Hampshire area.
I'm thinking about complaining to ofcom and see what happens... not happy
Has anyone been having issues with Sprint's overall Network?...
For the past 5 days i have been experiencing MAJOR issues with "NOW" network! ????
Called twice to Sprint and all they have to tell me is they're either "updating" their towers or I'm using my data during "peek" hours!!! But then, i go online and Google "Sprint's outages map" and come to find out, Long Beach CA has been affected with outages along with other cities in the US since the 23rd of August! You would figure that Sprint customer service would be just a lil more helpful than lie to customers. Guess not!...
What about the rest of you guys?
Visting family here in Greenfield Wisconsin.... lte down last night and tonight only 3g... seems to only be late at night though.
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Both my wife and I have been getting stuck in 3G a LOT lately in the North Atlanta, GA area... Although my Note 3 doesn't hold LTE as well as it should after the KitKat upgrade, cycling mobile data off and back on usually fixes it. But for the last week or so, sometimes I can't get LTE back no matter what. And then it just comes back when I quit paying attention to it. But I'll be happy if they're actually trying to improve things, like they've been saying for the last how many years?
This happened when they did the network vision upgrade in my area. Took about 2 or 3 months for it to stabilize. We'll worth it now honestly
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They will not report an "outage" if its network vision related or its being upgraded.
Many times if they are adding extra nodes or adding more bandwidth you will lose everything for a few hours, or you will notice your connection constantly dropping and reconnecting ( or at a lower signal) because you are trying to connect to a different tower since the one closest to you is offline being worked on.
The problem is.. everyone else is trying to also connect to that other tower, which overloads it- so people get kicked off or get the lovely 0.02kbps speedtest results.
You will only see an "outage" reported ( that shows up on the web) when either something major happens like a tornado/hurricaine/storm that caused damage, or if some idiot from another utility company accidentally cuts the fiber that goes from the tower to the switch
And in direct correlation to the adding capacity theory, I noticed Llama was not always showing me at home anymore (Llama uses cell towers to perform actions based on location). Did a re-learn area, and two new cells popped up... The sprint upgrade map shows a LOT of "data speed upgrades" in my area, including the tower closest to my house.
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And in direct correlation to the adding capacity theory, I noticed Llama was not always showing me at home anymore (Llama uses cell towers to perform actions based on location). Did a re-learn area, and two new cells popped up... The sprint upgrade map shows a LOT of "data speed upgrades" in my area, including the tower closest to my house.
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The bad thong is sprint want tell you anything other then we have upgrades coming serivxe may be interrupted for a short period
With that said I thunk they have great costumer service
I'm always having problems with their "overall network"
I'm down in Orange County, CA and I have had no issues.
Having the same issues here in CT. I brought my phone in for a repair and the rep said nothing was wrong with my phone. But the towers I was on. The tech on the phone it was hard to believe, I was having issues because, I used over 27gb in the past month. I said yeah, I used about a gig a day streaming .... But, the data is spotty at most, where my streams gets grainy during playback. And before I was getting 8-14 mbs down. Now, I get 3mbs-240kbs down then internet connection failed and this is on 4g.
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I had this issue here in FL. I called sprint and I was told they are upgrading the towers around the area(past 3 days) now everything seems to be fine. At least, they credited me $15 on my current bill.