EDIT: Wrong forum, sorry. Please do move it to Q&A section.
I was decided on getting Galaxy Nexus (dat fast updates + looks), when I've read news about google decision to take SXS for AOSP.
Then I reconsider my decision, and choose Sony device as option (I haven't before, because of Sony, I mean SE past, and their sloppy or never done updates). It's actually 100$ cheaper, so it's advantage too.
I have doubts about its buttons. I haven't got chance to test it yet (but will do). Can you tell me if they are responsive or not ? I currently have Galaxy S, so comparison to it would be nice.
Also, how long battery lasts? Unfortunately gsmarena haven't done their test on blog so I can't compare.
Thanks in advance
Compared to the Galaxy S, the buttons on the XPERIA S are simply unresponsive... it requires some adjusting (swiping instead of pressing) but you'll get used to it.
Accoriding to a test from a Dutch website, under heavy duty it's battery will last about 12 hours. Under normal conditions 30+ is manageable: http://translate.google.nl/translate?twu=1?sl=auto&tl=en&u=tweakers.net/reviews/2592/3/welke-smartphone-doet-het-langst-met-zijn-accu-resultaten-welke-doen-het-het-best.html
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honestly. i never understood the fact that Xperia S buttons are unresponsive. I've never had issue with them. most people i know never complained.
then again, everyone press/touch stuff differently
If you need to be precise on the buttons, you want to try them out yourself.
in terms of battery it's alright when you recycle it after 2 weeks (let it die and recharge it to full etc) i usually get 10-12hrs normal daily basis (listening to music, surf, txt, etc)
I've come to the Xperia S from the One X, and yeah technical downgrade, but a like the SXS much more! Though the ui isn't as smooth, mostly thanks to Sony I think, the ui is cooler! Love Sony's launcher, I just hope it gets smoother with an update in the near future..
Now, the buttons! First, they will be a little weird and feel unresponsive, but after a little use they work fine. I have absolutely no issues there..
Battery is far far better them what I'm use to! I've been using my phone for bluetooth music and navigation today, which means Bluetooth on, GPS on and screen on for about 1 hour! And this is without charging.. The day is done and I have 17% left, just checked screen time to be 2.5 hours and up time is 16 hours.
Sidenote: [Edit] My One X would never have been able to do this..
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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buttons ain't anywhere as good as those on galaxy s, i have both the phones, sliding helps but i can never hit the buttons in landscape mode..u'll get used to it and it ain't a deal breaker
Also, the black levels are a bit of a concern, i mean it's no amoled but it has the worst black levels i'hv seen. I compared it to my lcd tv, an iPhone 4 and even some old Nokia phones, xperia had the worst black levels (coz of white magic i guess). It just bumps you when you are used to seeing an amoled screen, but on the contrary, the sunlight readability is quite good
Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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Xperia S doesn't have White Magic, and I don't have wake lock issue.
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It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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It's not white magic but it has some similar technology which gives vibrant colours and which rom are you using, i got wake locks on stock, miui and now even on xcream, i removed com.sony.wakelock and sony update app through titanium backup but still no luck
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1.58 fw.
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anything extra you did to improve battery?
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anything extra you did to improve battery?
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Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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Removed/deactivated unused apps, used Juice Defender Ultimate, automated almost anything I can, set brightness close to 25% (and almost 0 while on dark). Enough battery to last MY day.
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You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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You don't have wake locks anymore? Juice defender stopped a lot of stuff (edge ,Wi-Fi, whatsapp) for me and i also deleted a lot of stuff, it lasts a day according to usage but wake locks still occur, it's not like it used to be in my galaxy s in stand by
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For example. During night it loses about 7%, from 11 Pm to 6 Pm... But it's been a while I've not paid attention. About Juice Defender, you need to set it up better, so it don't do what you don't want it to do. The first days it always disabled my WiFi when I simply locked the screen. But if you do the right settings on the Advanced option, it will be really good. It claims to save from x1.70 to x2.40...
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Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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Well try juice defender and notice my usage again, thanks
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I will take note of this. Gonna do a test Monday. Will remove from the charger on 11:30 PM on Sunday and run the phone with my normal usage. I will drop you a PM when the battery gets at 10%
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Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
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Battery is decent, but wake locks has been a problem for me so far, but that's just a software glitch
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What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
/shameless bump
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Thanks... Then I'm going to sony centre this week to test buttons.
I wonder if google decide to use HW buttons, or make own SW ones like in Nexus
What is wake lock? When you unlock your phone, you can use it, but screen is all black ? I did happen to me once or twice on Galaxy S, but that's all. Is this a common issue with SXS?
EDIT: This Captcha is so unreadable and annoying arghgh.
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wake lock produces battery drain by unnecessarily putting the phone in "awake" mode when it should be in deep sleep. Some of my experiences with miui and the current .58 rom (it gives around 5 hrs of display time but the wake locks are still there)
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I've been using my sgs3 with smart stay enabled and noticed it doesn't seem to be sensing me looking at it.. I wear glasses.. and I'm wondering if this is a limitation ?
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I also wear glasses and i find it works fine for me. Remember it doesnt work in low lights.
I Just tested it and it's not working without glasses on either. I see the 'eye' in the notification bar flash after 15 seconds, then it dims the screen, then again 5 seconds later and then screen switches off.
I've had smart stay enabled since day 0 and the phones had a few power cycles/reboots.
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Doesn't work for me with my glasses on or off. Must be my face!
doesn't work for me either. not smart
maybe the galaxy just doesn't like your faces?
maybe that's what samsung meant with it being smart. hehe
seriously i have read somewhere it is the face it is tracking not just the eyes.
It even worked when my Dogs were looking at at a few times, and it's annoying because often I put phone off to the side not looking at it and still stays on and wasting battery.
I'm sorry, I didn't realise Samsung required users to look like dogs for this feature to work.
I'm thinking of flashing a custom Rom anyhow.. be interesting to see f it works on another Rom.
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I'm sorry, I didn't realise Samsung required users to look like dogs for this feature to work.
I'm thinking of flashing a custom Rom anyhow.. be interesting to see f it works on another Rom.
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Well I do look a bit Ruff.
I just got my Galaxy. Seem to have the same issue, it's not working. Well I think there will be a software update soon enough.
If I consciously blink every so often I'm able to keep the screen on, but if I don't move or blink it turns off - at least that's how it seems to me.
Can't really get it working consistently yet.
I've had my phone since launch and it dimms but never turns off. I wear both glasses and contact lenses.
If the front camera is.nt pointed towards your face it may turn off however which is annoying sonetimes
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Hi,
I got smart stay working!
I opened the camera, switched to front facing and positioned the camera so that my face was in the centre of the screen and taking up about 50% of the area.
Now when switching to home screen the little eye kept popping up and going away and the screen stayed on!
Paul
I noticed it works flawless. I have it set too 30 seconds.
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Great
I find it very useful and works great, I don't wear glasses and I'v only had it two days but does as expected, I can look at it for 10 minutes and it won't turn off, if i point it away from me it turns off after my timeout.
I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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Ha, that sounds like something I would do!
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I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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Doesn't work for me
when i watch the screen, the screen didn't turn off, -> ok, this is work
but then i closed my eyes about 2 minutes, then when I opened my eyes, the screen didn't turn off
It works for me. I don't wear glasses though.
Correction, it has problems in landscape mode.
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I find it is a mixed bag. It rarely turns off when I am looking at it. But on lots of apps the screen dims meaning I have to touch the screen anyway. This rather defeats the point if you ask me!
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I was very excited by the Smart Stay feature of SGSIII but after a few days, experience, my opinion is that it does not work. I set the timeout to 15 sec. The eye flashes in the notification bar but most of the time screen is turned off. I tried staring directly at the front camera. Tried various positions too but no result. And all this is done in a normal lit room. Then I tried removing my specs and then it seems to work. Since I can't do much without them, so no fixed observation. Can anybody help?
do you wear glasses?
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do you wear glasses?
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Yes
Mine works even with glasses on
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Mine works even with glasses on
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Any particular setting? Or particular angle at which you keep your phone? Mine for sure does not work. The eye flashes but then the screen is also turned off.
I have the same issue too. Does anyone know the issue and how to overcome it? Thanks
I get mixed results with it. It works under ideal conditions but I had to extend the dim period to use it in everyday use.
The icon appears to show that the phone is checking for a face and not confirming it saw one. I see it flash even when looking from an angle where I'm definitely out of the camera frame.
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do you wear glasses?
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Me and a friend we bought s3 and both of us having an issue with smart stay !It works after you open the device for the 15-30 minutes and after that nothing,after the eye appears the screen goes off!We are not wearing glasses!!So any idea what cause that?A possible bug of it?Or any future update will fix it?
you guys running on XXfl2 or whatever it is?
smart stay works really well for me, never has an issue, even at acute angles
It never works for me.
Then again... I'm way to ugly for my phone to stay with me.
Smartphone's R getting to smart I guess.
Works great for me too...
Samsung already stated they are working on improving the feature as it is not yet capable of handling some light conditions, and most glasses.
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Works fine for me with glasses, as long as the phone's front camera is pointing right at me.
The flashing eye means its searching for a face; the only indication that it has recognised you is that the screen doesn't turn off.
Same issue!
Yup, facing the same problem. Keep staring at the screen for hours for the damn thing to work. But it just wont. I have tried with my glasses off. Got the same result. The eye appears on the screen twice. The first time it dims the screen, the second time it shuts it off. I have tried different angles, but have finally resigned to my fate, unless XDA/Sammy figure it out!
not working for me 2
I am not wearing any glasses but it simply dont wok tried to change the angels but no luck ... hope it need improvement. This was the main reason to purchase the s3 but....
Mine works quite well, feels like its abit of a battery drain though.
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For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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It needs to be a nice distance from your face to pick up your eyes, light is an issue too.
Its a nice feature that has some obvious issues on a 1.X MP camera.
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For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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Samsung patented this feature so i guess the app dev is in a bit of danger unless he is not really rich.
Other apps wont be as good either, as smart stay was made with this hardware in mind (namely the camera). Others will have to bend and shape to fit multiple cameras, making detection algorithms not as strong.
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Hey guys well this is really bugging me and I'm gonna see if I can't fix it well my fascinate has always had a defect its not as bright or sharp as other fascinates its never really bothered me I just crank the brightness all the way up well it really pissed me off last night me and my sis were watching the same movie on both our fassys the green hornet well while I was struggling to see what was happening hers was sharp and so bright it was lighting up the whole car well it pisses me off that I'm not getting the full power of my amolod display any ideas? I've seen some screen calibration qpps that supposly work miracles for phones like mine but they only work for GB and down so just leave your replies please
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I would at least flash the stock rom and see if those software fixes actually work, then you can at least know that it's possible to have it that way on JB, but if not then it might mean you should do a hardware replacement of your screen
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I would at least flash the stock rom and see if those software fixes actually work, then you can at least know that it's possible to have it that way on JB, but if not then it might mean you should do a hardware replacement of your screen
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I did try one in the market when I was still on froyo it did work wonders but I can't find it anymore and it probably won't work on job anyway
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Its just so dim and fuzzy and I can't do a hardware switch so I need a screen calibration app but none work on fken jb
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Well I found out the issue on my own after a whole of hard work lol screen burn in 75% of my screen has screen burn in somehow and its casting a overlay which is making it fuzzy and dim. Do you know of anything for 3yr old screen burn in Lil?
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As you all know, our LGOG doesn't really have any LED functionality. I really miss this as I had gotten super used to relying on it for info on my old Atrix. So I was browsing the general Android Apps section today and saw something that tries to help with this!
NoLED
I am linking to the original post as I don't want to steal any credit, just wanted to post it since I didn't see it here and didn't want anyone to miss it!
I'm currently downloading it to try it and will report back. Give it a try!
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As you all know, our LGOG doesn't really have any LED functionality. I really miss this as I had gotten super used to relying on it for info on my old Atrix. So I was browsing the general Android Apps section today and saw something that tries to help with this!
NoLED
I am linking to the original post as I don't want to steal any credit, just wanted to post it since I didn't see it here and didn't want anyone to miss it!
I'm currently downloading it to try it and will report back. Give it a try!
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It should only be used for Amoled screens. On Amoled screens black pixels are not lit up so battery usage is minimal (still a lot though). On our LCD screens the whole screen would light up, most likely killing our batteries in hours. I haven't actually tried that app but that's what I'm guessing would happen.
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It should only be used for Amoled screens. On Amoled screens black pixels are not lit up so battery usage is minimal (still a lot though). On our LCD screens the whole screen would light up, most likely killing our batteries in hours. I haven't actually tried that app but that's what I'm guessing would happen.
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It's been brought up before in The Base thread a while back. You're right, the whole screen lights up. Quite a few wake locks. Not battery friendly. Personally, I would not recommend it. But give it a chance.
OP, there are a couple alternatives in this section, if you haven't already seen them, that are worth giving a shot, as well.
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I didn't realize the AMOLED vs LED thing. But yeah i noticed it seemed pretty bright when I tried it. I ended up uninstalling it because I just didn't like how it looked.
Which other apps are you talking about? I don't think I've seen any
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I didn't realize the AMOLED vs LED thing. But yeah i noticed it seemed pretty bright when I tried it. I ended up uninstalling it because I just didn't like how it looked.
Which other apps are you talking about? I don't think I've seen any
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THIS and THIS.
I use the second one, as I like the functionality better.
You know or phones have notification lights around the power button
Running SnowJB
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You know or phones have notification lights around the power button
Running SnowJB
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Yeah, but at 30 second intervals it is next to useless...
Really.
I just bought an s4 today with Verizon. I'm laying here in bed and I noticed something strange which I never saw on my note 2 or my s3. I was reading a Web page with my brightness turned all the way up and it seemed like every 20 secs r so it would get a little dimmer then it would get bright again. I have adjust screen tone turned off. Then I went to settings, display, brightness and I see this message that says something like max brightness had been turned down to avoid overheating. Is this why my screen seemed to be dimming then getting bright again? Yes, the phone was quite warm during all of this. It also only happens when the brightness is turned all the way up.
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Its because of the heat if your phone it turned the brightness down. Because it could be a big source if heat. Interesting enough that has never happened to me.
This happens at any brightness I think and not related to heat- some of the main browsers have a slight auto adjust brightness even if the phone setting is turned off. I read it a few times so I assume it is that. I see this as well using Chrome.
In a dark room, have brightness to middle or something, and be on a light/white web page in Chrome.Pull the notification bar down and without really noticing, the screen will get slightly brighter due to the darker color. But drag the bar back up and instantly you can barely see the screen go back slightly darker again for the browser.
It was happening using any app not just a browser. I literally sat here and didn't touch the screen at all and I could see it go from bright to dimmer then to bright.. Back and forth..
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And I've seriously never seen that message about brightness being turned down on my s3 or note 2. I don't even know why my s4 is so warm right now..
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guys, it's a heat issue.
when the phone reaches a certain temp (i believe it's around 35 degrees C), it automatically dims down your display, no matter waht the brightness. you can be on 0 brightness, and it will dim anything that's a bright page, like a bright white.
test it by doing this: be in the browser when you notice it dim, and tap on the URL bar to bring up the keyboard...notice how bringing up the keyboard restores the brightness to what it was before that? that's because now the screen isn't engulfed in a super bright white screen..now it's divided between half bright white, and half darker from the keyboard, so it thinks "okay, the screen isn't fully white now, so we can go back to original brightness."
i suppose another way of showing why this is, which is much easier and idk why i didn't write this first lol but go into the brightness control in the display menu when it does it, and notice how it says "screen birghtness will be lowered to reduce risk of overheating" or soemthing. it only says that when you hit a certain temp.
the phone gets really hot, period. that's just how the S4 is unfortunately. so you may notice this happening often; i do lol
My phone does this too. I was wondering why it was doing this too. I guess the heat issue makes sense.
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Yeah dude that's exactly what the message said and I've never seen that before in my other phones. Don't understand why it got so hot? I wasn't even doing much... So the s4 naturally just gets warmer? My note 2 never got this warm, ever. I just want to make sure mine isn't messed up...
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I also turned the phone off for like 10mins and it feels much cooler now but that message is still there.
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My s4 does not really ever get hot and I charge while tethering all the time (same process would heat my s3 up)
Have you disabled the adapt display and adaptive backlight settings.
This was happening when I was charging it actually. It felt pretty damn hot. I turned off auto adjust but Idk what the other one is that you said.
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Is there anyway I can check the tempature of the phone?
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System monitor lite
I'd really like to know what I'm still getting that message.. Phone barely feels warm..
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Here's what mine says. I just downloaded it and went to tempature.
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Seems like it's working perfect now... Hasn't got warm at all. Maybe it just did that one time bcuz it was the first couple hours it's ever been used and the first time it's ever been charged?
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Seems like it's working perfect now... Hasn't got warm at all. Maybe it just did that one time bcuz it was the first couple hours it's ever been used and the first time it's ever been charged?
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Also check for the "Screen mode". It is under Settings -> My device Tab -> Display -> Screen mode
I usually leave it at Professional photo for less saturated but more accurate color rendering. If you check "Adapt display" or "Dynamic" it will try to adjust contrast based on scene displayed which may look like brightening and dimming of display, if you had "Auto adjust screen tone" unchecked.
What does the auto button do?
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I did notice that my s4 was warmer when i first got it than now... like i was almost hitting 40 often and now i hardly ever hit 35. don't know if it's because I ran a custom rom or not, or the phone was just settling. but yeah my first days with it I was worried
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My s4 does not really ever get hot and I charge while tethering all the time (same process would heat my s3 up)
Have you disabled the adapt display and adaptive backlight settings.
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why? very hot or cold