Atrix tegra driver - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i just read that ics is coming to the Motorola Xoom, so if the Xoom gets ICS is possible to pull out the graphics driver and use it on the atrix?

I smell a troll.......................

Not sure about pulling a different driver meant for a certain GPU processor, seems like that won't work. You could try an emulator or try Chainfire 3D, but you'll need to include the plugins for that to function. I know I used Chainfire 3D to play Tegra-based games with the OMAP processor that the Atrix 2 runs, so that might be a possibility...
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As I understand it, the problem is not the drivers. They're available from a number of different sources, not least nVidia themselves linked against a few different kernel versions. But not the ancient 2.6.32 kernel the Atrix is running. Most likely, the ICS release for the Atrix will include a 3.1.10 kernel, bringing it up to parity with Nvidia's current reference Tegra kernel. That's been the case on the Galaxy R and the G2X got 3.0.37...
Of course, they could stick with 2.6.32 as they can probably get Nvidia to supply the required modules linked against 2.6.32 or they may even have the source themselves - I'm not sure how the developer relationship goes with Nvidia for companies like Motorola. There's nothing to say a specific Android version requires a specific kernel version, only a recommendation from Google. The One X has 4.0.4 from hTC but is running 2.6.39!

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[KERNEL] Fascinate Froyo Source [SRC ON GIT] (Built from Galaxy S I9000 Source)

02/12/11: Froyo boots, stability issues resolved, all used modules from source except graphics. Problems: radio does not work, camcorder crashes the camera app, likely more issues. Big thanks to TheBirdman, SuperCurio and all the other devs working like myself out there to make this dream a reality. Gingerbread will come after Froyo is stabilized. As promised progress is being made.
This is not a Blazed kernel but will share in code fixes and versatility.
Thanks to TheBirdman, SuperCurio and others who's patches are pulled from TheBirdmans git to improve Fascinate compatibility.
The Eclair source appeared to be coded by multiple seperate teams simultaniously whilst Froyo source appears to be developed by one team and the sammy sources for the devices with Froyo are incrementally getting more updates as they move from one device to another.
Source will be posted soon, i am traveling right now and wanted to share this breakthrough from earlier today. Hint for those who can not wait the I9000 Samsung source contains almost everything you need except a graphics driver and a proper config, compare fascinate_defconfig, aries_eur_defconfig and the eclair defconfig or pull config from this kernel ;-)
The link below is for an alpha quality non-voodoo test kernel with ext4, ipv6, and full netfilter built in plus alot of extra modules stored in /system/kmodules:
02/16/11: Froyo Source Now Online!
03/10/11: Source pulled from laststufo's ULTIMATE SUPER OPTIMIZED Kernel for Galaxy S I9000
Wifi is working as client, Sound is working again, 3G radio that sometimes worked has stopped working again. This maybe a good thing though as it has indicated we may have been side stepping too much and avoiding drivers that may be more compatible than what we were actually using. The cpu is spot on, the sound is now using wm8994 aries and not wm8994 universal master. I suspect many incompatibilities in the platform still, but progress is being made. I think we were all just seeing too little with tunnel vision because of stress and perhaps a lack of sleep.
There are a number of goodies from laststufo in this tree (ramzswap, compcache, what appear to be usb host otg support just to name a few) non of which I have tested on fascinate but all of which compiled without error. I have tested overclock up to 1200Mhz, it supports up to 1.6Ghz (I would be very careful about anything past 1.2Ghz). VSF (Variable Screen Frequency) sync is broken ( a new feature from laststufo ) until replacement for the accel_xyz function of the smb380 is found, as the smb380 is not supported on the Fascinate, just as the yamaha compass driver is not supported. VSF's purpose is to save battery by reducing screen refresh rate when the device is being used in a minimal activity type situation.
I have not posted working binaries or full source to git yet, but I plan to have a new binary voodoo and non-voodoo up with source hopefully by sometime monday (but please don't hold me to it if I'm a little late)
Source:
GITHUB: http://www.github.com/sirgatez Last Updated 02/12/11
Binaries:
Non-Voodoo: http://db.tt/Y66iNVu - Proof Of Concept Alpha 02/12/11
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I think I'm in love with you.
Sad news: it would only be bromance.
Anyhow, thank you so much for your hard work, and please keep it up!
It's incredible what you guys can do.
yay.. its just a matter of time till u make some magical work in froyo kernel.
i think punkkaos mentioned in one of his tweets that he was working on kernel, and got hardware acceleration on UI working but had graphical glitches, but he said that it was awesome fast.
Would that be possible here too ?
I will be looking forward to seeing this beast run on my phone once it hits the beta stage.
Maybe I'm mislead, but doesn't the i9000 froyo kernel use an rfs filesystem?
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papstar said:
Maybe I'm mislead, but doesn't the i9000 froyo kernel use an rfs filesystem?
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I think the nexus s is the only recent Samsung phone not using rfs. The rfs drivers in this kernel are in the stock i9000 source.
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I should have source up by the end of the day heading home from hospital now.
I did some googling, correct me if I am mistaken but I can not seem to find the kernel module source for s3c_bc, s3c_lcd, or pwrsrv outside of Eclair. The eclair module for pwrsrv fails to boot, and the sizes of all 3 compiled binaries do not come close to the froyo ones from samsung. Both s3c modulea are less that or about 100k in froyo, eclair and eclair compiled against froyo are closer to 300k each. PowerVR driver is like 350k on froyo, and eclair and eclair compiled against froyo are 1.8/1.9MB. I did find a newer powervr driver from imagination last night but have to rework some code make it compile, and ti has the most recent driver from imagination but will not share unless you purchased a 1,600 evaluation board.
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SirGatez said:
ti has the most recent driver from imagination but will not share unless you purchased a 1,600 evaluation board.
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I can send a lot curse words TI's way atm.
Btw, how much performance do these drivers improve ?
3d accel nor graphics work without them. Sammies binary works as shown in the alpha posted but ti isnt to blame, imagination (imageon) makes and releases/licenses the driver and its code.
Just read an article saying they may opensource it in 3rd quarter this year I dont see that hindering us much right now with froyo, we can always dissassemble and recompile the binaries if we are left no other options to ensure gingerbread compatibility. Nexus S binary modules should work for gb testers at the moment, not sure how different froyo and gb powervr sgx drivers are right now but their are seemingly major internal changes from eclair to froyo. Every google result says both use the same gpu.
But Samsung is to blame for the lack of opensource froyo s3c_bc and s3c_lcd modules. But they look portable to froyo at the moment, will delve deeper into rabbit hole soon...
Edit: I have not tried to boot without loading these modules but when I compile and use the eclair powervr driver for froyo it driver load loops then boot loops then shuts down. The phone may work in 2d without them but I am doubtful. The kernel does have enough internal code (s3c_fb, s3c_cfb, etc) to display the i9000 startup image but the rest of the drivers are supposed to load before the bootanimation plays.
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SirGatez said:
Just read an article saying they may opensource it in 3rd quarter this year I dont see that hindering us much right now with froyo, we can always dissassemble and recompile the binaries if we are left no other options to ensure gingerbread compatibility. Nexus S binary modules should work for gb testers at the moment, not sure how different froyo and gb powervr sgx drivers are right now but their are seemingly major internal changes from eclair to froyo. Every google result says both use the same gpu.
But Samsung is to blame for the lack of opensource froyo s3c_bc and s3c_lcd modules. But they look portable to froyo at the moment, will delve deeper into rabbit hole soon...
Edit: I have not tried to boot without loading these modules but when I compile and use the eclair powervr driver for froyo it driver load loops then boot loops then shuts down. The phone may work in 2d without them but I am doubtful. The kernel does have enough internal code (s3c_fb, s3c_cfb, etc) to display the i9000 startup image but the rest of the drivers are supposed to load before the bootanimation plays.
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Damn, that's neat info. Where does one go to learn all this neat stuff about kernel, decompiling binaries and then compiling them again for another OS ?
StDevious said:
Damn, that's neat info. Where does one go to learn all this neat stuff about kernel, decompiling binaries and then compiling them again for another OS ?
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Kernel hacking is very similar to any other reverse engineering effort, an under standing of asm is needed, as well as the file layout of thr target binaries.
Although technically reverse engineering by way of of binary decompilation is copyright infringement and a breach of most software usage licenses, but so is sharing binaries from one platform to another dispite the purpose.
Either way that isn't something I will be working on just yet unless an opensource driver for this surfaces we will use sammies for now and concentrate on making what we have stable. Fixing the radio and testing the other hardware are priority since the current binary froyo graphics driver does work atm. We will get an opensource version working later, if not then we worry about the the black box problem.
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About 2 hours more research later I learned that a portion but not all of the PowerVR SGX/MDX drivers are open source, they are released like binary blobs with the open sourced portion of the driver enclosing the closed sourced blobs to function (much like how NVidia and ATI began their Linux Driver crusade), I will attempt to contact TI / Imagination for the open source portion of the drivers, they do not have them posted for public consumption but should have no problem providing access under the OSS/GPL. If anyone has these already they can send me a PM and it will save some time, likely the closest port that should work will likely be TI's OMAP34xx PowerVR SGX with modifications as it is already Linux compatible. There are about 3-4 versions of the driver, the external installer version does not match the internal library versions, v1/v2 is Pre-Samsung-Eclair/Samsung-Eclair, and I have downloaded v3 and attempting to get it to work with Froyo, I am not sure what version Froyo uses, v4 is avail for OMAP3xxx developers from TI linked to a development board that they sell. Not sure what version is available by request. I downloaded v3 but the problem I'm having with v3 is compiling has a data type conflict that I am attempting to resolve between the portions I pulled from v2 for Samsung compatibility.
Go SirGatez go
Good go, appreciate the effort for the greater good.
SirGatez said:
Kernel hacking is very similar to any other reverse engineering effort, an under standing of asm is needed, as well as the file layout of thr target binaries.
Although technically reverse engineering by way of of binary decompilation is copyright infringement and a breach of most software usage licenses, but so is sharing binaries from one platform to another dispite the purpose.
Either way that isn't something I will be working on just yet unless an opensource driver for this surfaces we will use sammies for now and concentrate on making what we have stable. Fixing the radio and testing the other hardware are priority since the current binary froyo graphics driver does work atm. We will get an opensource version working later, if not then we worry about the the black box problem.
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is there like a link to guide or a book to learn ?
I know it's too early for feature requests... so I'm just going to leave this here... you know, for fun.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709135
No pressure.
SirGatez said:
Although technically reverse engineering by way of of binary decompilation is copyright infringement and a breach of most software usage licenses, but so is sharing binaries from one platform to another dispite the purpose.
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Nearly all of the innovators that make beautiful things happen with technology are in violation (or at least a gray area) of the law. It really is a shame.
I wonder how much bribe money it took to get the DMCA passed? I'm sorry, I meant "political funding".
Source is online now! Sorry for the delays, Enjoy!
http://www.github.com/sirgatez
I'm working on porting some features from Blazed into Froyo now, git will be updated once I verify everything works. To compile Froyo use the Fascinate_Blazed_defconfig. You will need need to use the stock modules pvrsrvkm.ko, s3c_lcd.ko, s3c_bc.ko for graphics to work. Use of hotspot_event_monitoring.ko, dhd.ko, dpram.ko, dpram_recovery.ko may also allow for operation radio and wifi although I have not tested this, so consider radio operations to still be broken, I am working on the issue.
I did manage to compile versions 2 (From Eclair, did not try Eclairs older EGL libraries with Froyo), 3 (Had android EGL libraries 1 subversion lower than stock Froyo) and 4 (no android egl libraries were included) of the PowerVR drivers and something is amiss and still results in a boot loop, something doesn't seem to be compatible, seems like I get missing library defines no matter how I try.
If someone has intimate knowledge about the PowerVR 3D and EGL on android and could PM me I would like to get some help on getting a fully working compile from source of the drivers that works. Any TI/OMAP3 experience with this driver should be applicable to this situation. I have not posted these drivers on git because there is a clickwrap license on the, you can get them from TI's website, some of them require a login to download, some of them are instant with no login.
I expect full source working drivers for all other devices except graphics within 7 to 14 days once the bugs and incompatible code is resolved, again the dhd wifi drivers are NOT compiling to the same size as the one provided by Samsung, so something seems fishy. If anyone from the internal Samsung Froyo dev team would like to help shed some light on why dhd.ko, pvrsrvkm.ko, s3c_lcd.ko, s3c_bc.ko all compile from the posted source to files 3-8 times the size of those included in Samsung's stock roms it would help progress greatly. Oh yes and I will not reveal any identifying information in exchange for your help unless you request it
Making progress with dpram/gpio control lines. Once I get this right the radio will be working like a charm. Dpram also controls operation of other major hardware such as camera, bluetooth, wifi, in addition to cellular. These devices all work independantly of each other but the dpram module handles the traffic and control i/o.
The galaxy phones while all sporting similar hardware have slightly different ways of controlling them.
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Samsung released the source for froyo for the epic today.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-releases-source-epic-4g-eb13-froyo-update
This is most likely of limited usefulness but hopefully a sign we wont have to wait long for the fascinate source.

Adreno Libraries for ARMv6

As this phone has a working ICS port you should know that Qualcomm recently released Adreno 2xx drivers for Ice Cream Sandwich. But unfortunately the drivers released were compiled only for armv7 not armv6.
So all armv6 devices with ICS ported are having an unofficial ICS port with a hack to provide hardware acceleration.
This means our phones will never have 100% hardware acceleration in ICS and also not get OFFICIAL CM9 support as they dont allow use of any hacks or patches in their ROMS.
The ICS port on OptimusP500(which i use) is almost bugfree and we were left from getting the official support from cm9 due to this very reason.
sweetnsour has made this groubal, a petition for the Qualcomm guys to look into and thus compile the drivers from ARMv6
THIS WILL BE THE LAST CHANCE TO BREATH NEW LIFE INTO OUR ONCE AWESOME DEVICES.
I hope you guys will sign this groubal showing your support. Your one signature will definitely help us to show Qualcomm that there are many many users still using Armv6 devices..
Link : SIGN AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT HERE
Official Discussion Thread on XDA
+1
some info about maclaw and his team progress : http://galaxyics.com/news/view/29
"4. We have H/W video acceleration - smooth YouTube ;-)"
again with this? Please search before posting. This topeic was already posted three times (with yours as the third)
Its not like qualcomm care will this benefit them? No.
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https://developer.qualcomm.com/foru...-optimization-adreno/8081?page=4#comment-6869
Check this out, today March 29th Qualcomm has released adreno graphics optimization for Armv6 devices, which takes us closer on achieving a better ICS experienced. This makes may htc legend very happy
i thought there are some libs work on x8 and optimus one.. new adreno libs? so those arent working then? just placebo?

CM9 ALPHA4 based port for Legend [APR11] and gpu acceleration

hi,
I found out that this rom CM9 ALPHA4 based port for Legend [APR11] is NOT using hardware acceleration after browsing to the folder in which the EGL drivers are, these date from 2008...
I than went to the qualcomm site logged in and saw that the newer drivers for ICS they released are dated 2012! and are very much different from the ones that are installed currently.
Someone should contact zeubea about this!
And make this rom rock!
walter2305 said:
hi,
I found out that this rom CM9 ALPHA4 based port for Legend [APR11] is NOT using hardware acceleration after browsing to the folder in which the EGL drivers are, these date from 2008...
I than went to the qualcomm site logged in and saw that the newer drivers for ICS they released are dated 2012! and are very much different from the ones that are installed currently.
Someone should contact zeubea about this!
And make this rom rock!
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Are you sure that it is not using HWA ?
Since its 3.0 version, zeubea claims HWA is working for nearly every apps (and users agreed).
In one of the many pages, I saw that he is aware of the new drivers, and actually, how could HWA works if it wasn't with those ?
There was no HWA before ICS, was it ?
Maybe the differences between the drivers you see and the ones available at Qualcomm are because of the architecture, Legend is an ARMv6 device.
maybe
bibzor said:
Are you sure that it is not using HWA ?
Since its 3.0 version, zeubea claims HWA is working for nearly every apps (and users agreed).
In one of the many pages, I saw that he is aware of the new drivers, and actually, how could HWA works if it wasn't with those ?
There was no HWA before ICS, was it ?
Maybe the differences between the drivers you see and the ones available at Qualcomm are because of the architecture, Legend is an ARMv6 device.
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i,ll first have to try something to make absolutly sure, i will post my findings
Your kidding me right? Have you used ANY of the builds starting from the first alphas released? Hw acceleration is most defiantly working, before hw acceleration GUI was laggy, many HQ games didn't work at all, angry birds and the like, bench mark apps 2d frame rate was only about 10-14 fps and no 3D support at all. After hw implemented all the HQ games I've tried work better than any rom I've used, 2D frame rate is hitting 50+ fps 3D is around 18 fps and IMHO this is the fastest smoothest rom available I have flashed all of them on xda. If hw acceleration wasn't implemented how can you explain how good it is?
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics alpha 4 :-D
walter2305 said:
hi,
I found out that this rom CM9 ALPHA4 based port for Legend [APR11] is NOT using hardware acceleration after browsing to the folder in which the EGL drivers are, these date from 2008...
I than went to the qualcomm site logged in and saw that the newer drivers for ICS they released are dated 2012! and are very much different from the ones that are installed currently.
Someone should contact zeubea about this!
And make this rom rock!
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You sure you are looking at the correct folder? Ive checked /system/etc/firmware, /system/lib/egl and /system/lib/, all required driver last modified in 2012.
BTW, have you try this rom? Flash Alpha 1.0, play around couple hours, and then, try flashing Alpha4. You'll surely see lot of improvement in graphic.
A strange thing about hwa is that if you compare tests with Antutu or Quadrant on cm7.1 and CM9, you notice that the 2d score of cm7.1 is twice that of cm9 (at least on my Legend).
zeubea cm9 is smooth and in a post he said, if I remeber well, that on hwa debug info are traced, maybe this Rom experience could be also better when debug info will be no more needed

[Q] Kernel 3.0 Development?

So, my question is, why do we want the 3.0 Kernel for Nook Tablet again? From what I recall, there were absolutely no changes from kernel 2.6 to 3.0, other than the naming. Only the "alpha-manliness", and the shuffle of old drivers or something along those lines.
Any Ducati stuff is provided in acclaim_update.zip isn't it?
Anyways, if someone could answer that, that'd be great.
Ok, I am not part of the dev team and I got my NT too late to have read the original reasoning behind development of a 3.0 kernel but after a bit of research I think I may have at least part of the picture.
The main reason for the development of a 3.0 kernel is to gain access to the Ducati hardware integrated into the OMAP 4430 that the NT uses. With the 2.6 kernel we can use only the dual core Cortex A9 part of the processor but if we can develop a Ducati driver it will allow use to use the Cortex M3 dual core (four cores total) for hardware video acceleration.
This is proving to be a challenge because TI will not release the source for the Ducati related kernel elements; they will only give us a binary version which is crippled for our device because it uses the wrong watchdog timer (GPtimer 11 vs GPtimer 10 which we need).
This all requires Kernel 3.0 because the binary for Ducati is built using this kernel. Aside from that, ICS is built for the 3.0 kernel branch and we should be keeping up (if not one step ahead) if possible.
That is what I've gotten so far but if any devs want to step in and correct, clarify, or add anything else, please feel free. Thanks guys for all your hard work!
Android ICS v4 was build upon kernel v3 and also the framework (api's)
It provides some elemental changes over Gingerbread like HWA of the gui so in plain words it takes the burden off the cpu and uses the gpu like Nvidia VDPAU (Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
And Windows DXVA V2
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc307941(v=vs.85).aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_Video_Acceleration
Hardware-accelerated 2D drawing
All Android-powered devices running Android 4.0 are required to support hardware-accelerated 2D drawing. Developers can take advantage of this to add great UI effects while maintaining optimal performance on high-resolution screens, even on phones. For example, developers can rely on accelerated scaling, rotation, and other 2D operations, as well as accelerated UI components such as TextureView and compositing modes such as filtering, blending, and opacity.
As everyone thinks that no changes where made on kernel transportation to v3 from 2.6, later on many arm optimizations where sync to git from different sources that help to make the v3 kernel more feature full over v2.6.
For starters,
Linaro is pushing more and more advancements to the git for v3.
Ubuntu decided to support arm hardware in Server and Userbase because of those changes.
They are putting out a Plasma tablet with Arm Cortex A9 cpu 512mb Ram with kde Plasma interface as well as pushing theirs code onto the git also.
So in the v3 kernel we see things done right.
Another proof that kernel v3 done miracles to arm is the XBMC project.
Now we have an xbmc version for arm also.
This is no coincidence at all.
An important factor to all this is that Android does not run on a stock Linux kernel. The source code for each Android release also includes a large number of Android-specific changes to the Linux kernel, including custom features and even entire subsystems. Each release of the Android OS is developed hand-in-hand with a specific kernel version and its changes, and ICS was developed around a modified 3.0.1 kernel. Using an older kernel version could potentially require work in patching newer changes into an old kernel or hacking in workarounds instead of just focusing on drivers. This is why most ROMs aren't just jumping straight to the newest Linux 3.3 either. I don't know any specifics about what changes are important though
Many drivers available from all these outside sources have been built around this same Android 3.0.1 kernel version too, so the chances of issues are much smaller if you stick to the same version
Also, to clarify about the Linux numbering: you're correct that the 3.0 version itself didn't include any big changes over 2.6.39 so as to keep the focus on simply replacing "2.6" with "3" while sticking with the same development process. However since they started the 2.6 branch many years ago they have constantly added new features, new frameworks, and all kinds of significant changes in the 2.6.X/3.X sub-versions as the code became ready. There wasn't simply a 2.6 kernel there were many 2.6 kernels, and it changed a lot over time from the initial 2.6.0 version just as it continues to evolve with each 3.X version
demetris_I said:
Android ICS v4 was build upon kernel v3 and also the framework (api's)
It provides some elemental changes over Gingerbread like HWA of the gui so in plain words it takes the burden off the cpu and uses the gpu like Nvidia VDPAU (Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
And Windows DXVA V2
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc307941(v=vs.85).aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_Video_Acceleration
Hardware-accelerated 2D drawing
All Android-powered devices running Android 4.0 are required to support hardware-accelerated 2D drawing. Developers can take advantage of this to add great UI effects while maintaining optimal performance on high-resolution screens, even on phones. For example, developers can rely on accelerated scaling, rotation, and other 2D operations, as well as accelerated UI components such as TextureView and compositing modes such as filtering, blending, and opacity.
As everyone thinks that no changes where made on kernel transportation to v3 from 2.6, later on many arm optimizations where sync to git from different sources that help to make the v3 kernel more feature full over v2.6.
For starters,
Linaro is pushing more and more advancements to the git for v3.
Ubuntu decided to support arm hardware in Server and Userbase because of those changes.
They are putting out a Plasma tablet with Arm Cortex A9 cpu 512mb Ram with kde Plasma interface as well as pushing theirs code onto the git also.
So in the v3 kernel we see things done right.
Another proof that kernel v3 done miracles to arm is the XBMC project.
Now we have an xbmc version for arm also.
This is no coincidence at all.
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Sounds good. But the nook Tablet is running Gingerbread, and it gets Ducati features. Doesn't that mean a 2.6 Kernel suffices the Ducati Susbsystem? Does moving to Kernel 3.0.x make it easier to crack Ducati? Hmm.
soshite said:
Sounds good. But the nook Tablet is running Gingerbread, and it gets Ducati features. Doesn't that mean a 2.6 Kernel suffices the Ducati Susbsystem? Does moving to Kernel 3.0.x make it easier to crack Ducati? Hmm.
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Ducati wasn't the point because as you pointed out it already works with the original kernel, and it not working yet with this 3.0 kernel is an unfortunate side effect of the real goal.
Moving to a newer Android kernel apparently makes it much easier to get proper graphics acceleration working for apps and general user interface components. This hardware acceleration of the UI is why ICS can feel so much smoother than Honeycomb or Gingerbread. Without the proper kernel I think they have to resort to dirtier hacks into the rest of ICS to make it run properly. I'm admittedly a little fuzzy on the details though
Lets just say that moving to Kernel v3 will make full use of our hardware, something GB doesn't do right now.
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This hardware acceleration of the UI is why ICS can feel so much smoother than Honeycomb or Gingerbread.
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AFAIK Honeycomb has already the UI acceleration. But I haven't had any device with HC, is ICS really much smoother then HC? I didn't think so.
Aleq said:
AFAIK Honeycomb has already the UI acceleration. But I haven't had any device with HC, is ICS really much smoother then HC? I didn't think so.
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The thing is, Honeycomb is really heavy on the device. Honeycomb would be slower than ICS, as it would be ported and contains more contents than ICS. ICS was made to be the faster successor to HC.
Aleq said:
AFAIK Honeycomb has already the UI acceleration. But I haven't had any device with HC, is ICS really much smoother then HC? I didn't think so.
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I was mistaken and you are correct. However, something under the hood was definitely changed or tweaked in regards to acceleration and how it is used because ICS does feel much smoother and more responsive throughout than Honeycomb did
I searched a bit and found this helpful article. Here are the most relevant quotes:
Android 3.0 Honeycomb gave developers the ability to turn on hardware acceleration, but it wasn’t toggled by default.
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According to Romain Guy and Chet Haase (Android engineers):
“With this new pipeline, all drawing operations performed by the UI toolkit are carried out using the GPU. You’ll be happy to hear that Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, brings an improved version of the hardware-accelerated 2D rendering pipeline to phones, starting with Galaxy Nexus. In Android 4.0 (API level 14), hardware acceleration, for the first time, is on by default for all applications.”
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[Q] Can We Use GPU Drivers From Nexus S/Galaxy S For ICS?

I know on HTC devices you can play with the GPU drivers and get them to run on similar devices w/o much trouble, and maybe a kernel change.
I was hoping the devs here could take the egl (.so files) from the other Galaxy phones or maybe Galaxy Nexus and the framebuffer/sgx drivers too.
It would be nice if they could also OC the GPU like the GN(384 or 300MHz), ICS would benefit significantly from that OC and so would GPU accelerated apps...I would try this out myself, but I haven't gotten my player yet, and I've never flashed ROMs to a Sammy before and don't even know how to extract the rfs rom files of Samsung devices(everything is much easier with htc).

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