I have broken my 8Gb flash 80 G9 and am considering replacing it with the 250Gb HD model (as i can pick one up for a good price)
How much space is there for installing apps on the 250Gb HD model?
I would hope that there is at least the same amount of space in flash memory and the HD is reserved for media content?
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2Gb is pretty bad.
Hmmm not good!
just for the apk, it is good
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just for the apk, it is good
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And applications that require additional data; for example games or GPS software? Can this extra data be transferred to the HD ?
yes the gps maps are on the HDD, for the game it is the same
Thank you Cajil.
Sorry to keep asking all these questions but I want to make sure I make the right decision :
Does this behaviour of extra data installing to the HD happen automatically or do I need to use something like app2SD to force it to happen?
I don't use app2SD
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It's 2GB flash chip, data partition (mmcblk0p4) is 1.5GB. Note that Apps2sd (native) is disabled, I can't say if 3rd party would work or not.
You may try to make an additional empty ext4 image and mount it as /data/app using init.d script
I have an HDD 80g9 and I'ma having serious problems with the app space.
Since I started installing custom roms I don't have a lot of space left.
Just to make an example:my most space consuming apps are: chrome, firefox, angrybirds space, google currents and facebook. All togheter they sum up to 134mb and with all the other small apps I have 350mb of free space left.
The other day I couldn't update angrybirds space because it said I have not enough space. I had to uninstall and then re-install the app from scratch and it worked.
The biggest problem is that I can't install any other game or "big" app like autodesk sketchbook or photoshop because it says so.
If I could go back I would get the 16gb version and maybe buy an extra SD.
btw, apparently there's no way to move apps to the hdd.
trespolo said:
I have an HDD 80g9 and I'ma having serious problems with the app space.
Since I started installing custom roms I don't have a lot of space left.
Just to make an example:my most space consuming apps are: chrome, firefox, angrybirds space, google currents and facebook. All togheter they sum up to 134mb and with all the other small apps I have 350mb of free space left.
The other day I couldn't update angrybirds space because it said I have not enough space. I had to uninstall and then re-install the app from scratch and it worked.
The biggest problem is that I can't install any other game or "big" app like autodesk sketchbook or photoshop because it says so.
If I could go back I would get the 16gb version and maybe buy an extra SD.
btw, apparently there's no way to move apps to the hdd.
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This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
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This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
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I was able to install more apps with the unrooted stock rom.
every day I think about going back, but I need the benefits of rooting.
Right now I'm using a backup app to manage the apps I don't use frequently: when I need to use one of those, I backup a game, uninstall it and then restore the backup of the app I need.
It's not an ideal solution, but in the end it only takes a few minutes to do it.
The real problem for me is the lack of support of app2sd or similar. If someone is able to solve that, the tablet would be fine.
Extreme_One said:
This sounds bad.
Seems to me like the 250Gb HD model is crippled.
I want to install lots and lots of apps; ( I could install plenty of apps with my old 8Gb non-turbo) and now it seems that if I buy the 250Gb HD model I can install fewer apps?!?
OR is this only a problem when using custom ROMs? If I use the stock/default Archos ROMs will I still be able to install lots of apps without running out of space?
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trespolo said:
I was able to install more apps with the unrooted stock rom.
every day I think about going back, but I need the benefits of rooting.
Right now I'm using a backup app to manage the apps I don't use frequently: when I need to use one of those, I backup a game, uninstall it and then restore the backup of the app I need.
It's not an ideal solution, but in the end it only takes a few minutes to do it.
The real problem for me is the lack of support of app2sd or similar. If someone is able to solve that, the tablet would be fine.
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-Rooted/custom firmware uses 400MB of /data space (system image is stored in /data/local) so usable /data space in this case is ~1GB (for apps & app+system data)
-Stock rom (thus also custom ones) does not support native Apps2sd because to HDD access times -much slower than flash memory- and power usage
And don't forget that Gen9 was designed primarily as multimedia center
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I have searched on numerous fronts but have never found the solution to my problem. The issue is, on the vibrant I have 2 GB internal memory for app installation, with 512 mb ram (I think) to run the apps, in addition to 16 GB of internal storage for files and what not.
However, having 1.4 GB 'app' memory free currently, whenever I install any further apps, some of the existing apps start to crash/restart whenever I need to use them. For example, I use LPP, and when I install some more apps on the phone, LPP homescreen icons disappear whatever action I do (open an app, use an app, etc), and then they reload for about 15-20 seconds when I go to the homescreen again. I have about 35-55 MB RAM free at any given time.
My question is, why give 2 GB app installation memory when you still cannot use it to install apps since they start giving you all sort of problems? I am running stock t-mobile eclair and have recently rooted my phone.
you know what, i think all you need is a task killer or clean your phone or something.. just find a way to free up some space.. 35-55MB is hella low.
Hmm, whats the normal free ram for stock 2.1 vibrant supposed to be? I have not tinkered around with my phone much so am wondering how it could have gotten low to that extent. All the apps that I use are also well known and from reputable developers...
Got any clues?
dunno when i was running 2.1 i was always at 80-120 free range with apps running..
try getting a task killer and kill all running apps..
also check settings > applications > running services > tap and kill processes you dont need running
This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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This still does not answer my question about why there is 2 GB of app memory available...? regardless of RAM..?
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Incase people want 2 gigs worth of apps? and if i remember right you have 16gigs storage and then 2gigs of that is partitioned for apps
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Yeah, but then what about what I wrote in my first post? It does not make sense if you can 'theoretically' install 2 GB worth of apps but renders the phone useless in function?
Anyone who is actually using close to 2 GB worth of memory for apps on vibrant/Galaxy S?? Would love to hear what you have to say.
TI Backup is showing I have 456 apps installed which includes everything that came with the phone. I hear there is no limit (my old windows 6.5 phone was limited to 50 apps...after that all of the apps disappeared from the deinstall menu and you had to manually delete something to see them all again). Everything is installed to the internal card, nothing installed on the external SD card. I still have almost 9 gigs of free space so it is conceivable that 1500 apps is possible, though the phone may start to slow down at some point. With TI backup eating space along with the phone's built in android backup turned on I don't know how much of the free space will be eaten up.
So anyone over the 450 number?
There is a smaller area of the SD card put aside for apps..
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I was on 448 but just downloaded another 3 to break 450. TiBu reporting 451 now. LOL
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I don't see why you can't have as many apps as will fit on the internal storage...
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There is a smaller area of the SD card put aside for apps..
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Is there a way to increase the size?
Tibu says I only have 204....best start downloading so app's....lol
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If there is a finite amout of space available for apps then there is definitely an upper limit to how many apps can be installed. i may be close to the limit since i tried installing a large app from amazon and received a message saying there was insufficient space. After I deinstalled Angry Birds Rio the nessage went away and the app installed. So to increase the amount of available space for apps you either have to increase the amount of allocated space for apps (whereever that directory is), delete other optional files like pics and music, or perhaps reformat.....I remember seeing soem sort of reformat option somewhere...maybe this post belongs in the dev forum since they are savvy with the system.
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If there is a finite amout of space available for apps then there is definitely an upper limit to how many apps can be installed. i may be close to the limit since i tried installing a large app from amazon and received a message saying there was insufficient space. After I deinstalled Angry Birds Rio the nessage went away and the app installed. So to increase the amount of available space for apps you either have to increase the amount of allocated space for apps (whereever that directory is), delete other optional files like pics and music, or perhaps reformat.....I remember seeing soem sort of reformat option somewhere...maybe this post belongs in the dev forum since they are savvy with the system.
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Sounds like you need Apps2sd.
Yes. I just got apps to SD. I didn't know any apps were on the SD card, I am still curious exactly.how much space is available on the phone. I'll have to copy over the apps to my 2nd SD card.
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I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
lightfire said:
I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
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I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Coffee Freak said:
I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
lightfire said:
Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
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If you add what it says is available to the what it says I'm using, it totals 6.81 GB. I doubt that includes system apps, as I said I have a lot installed. I had to keep them all on the phone because the ones I moved to the SD card the widgets didn't load on restart and I wasn't getting notifications.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Well, screen shots of my internal file system storage. My phone is rooted so I could free up more space deleting some system apps I don't use like Facebook but people had to reinstall the system apps they deleted to get the last update to install, and I don't feel like messing with that. I just disabled them. Can you install your co-pilot apps on the SD card?
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No, I don't think the maps can be loaded on sd card.
Darn - I purchased without checking this out - figured if my 8 gb phone had 5.52 gb free a 16 gb phone would have around 12. My fault for not doing proper research. Everyone was saying how much they like the phone. and I let that sway me. Guess I will send it back as 6.81 gb free in 2014 is almost $99 phone territory.
Looks like copilot is downloading fine. I'll let you know if I have issues after it completes.
It gives you the option to use extsd as default storage.
You are showing 12.69 GB available internal storage for apps. Is this correct? Or is it the 10.50 that is available to apps?
Yes 12.69 available. But when I go into settings > manage apps it states 5.8gb for apps. I believe it uses internal/external for app data, so I believe you'll be OK
check in the copilot options. maybe it has the ability to choose where to save the map data
NOKIA HERE does ... and its awesome btw
I have seen many people complaining about storage full in moto e (condor) I have a easy solution for non rooted users (there are numerous guides for rooted user but this is for non rooted users)
There are few simple steps:
1- Disable all big apps like chrome , gmail , galley etc. It will uninstall there update and you won't be asked to update them .
2- search for the apps as a replacement to the apps you have disabled , the apps you are choosing should be small in size and should be movable to SD card for example - you can use cm browser as a replacement to chrome(its just consume 10 mbs and can be moved to SD card) ,for gallery use quickpic (3-4mb) , and use stock email app instead of gmail , use being or hound in place of google now.
3- clear cache from settings/ storage
You can uninstall updates or disable all those apps for which you can find a small sized alternative.
P.s. by this method I got almost 350-400 mb free space
That's grt!
But my point is, if you are rooted, you can have 1gb free even after installing 105 apps including bulky games! (presently in my case) by using app2sd
P.S. don't mind ?
sikoo1996 said:
That's grt!
But my point is, if you are rooted, you can have 1gb free even after installing 105 apps including bulky games! (presently in my case) by using app2sd
P.S. don't mind
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By using app2sd I had 1.7 GB free even after installing 132 apps
And using adopted SD I got 1.5 GB free thanks to force move option
Hi everyone. Sorry for starting a new post, but I looked and I wasn't sure where my question fit in. I'm using Link2SD on my kids' tablets and overall it works great. I got really fast (SanDisk extreme) micro SD cards for black Friday and the games run faster than with tablet memory. One thing I'm trying to figure out is why, even though I have both tablets set up mostly the same, one of the tablets has a lot less free space showing. I do have about 400-500 MB more of apps on the tablet showing less free space, BUT it is showing 4.0 GB free space vs. 5.8 GB free space on the other tablet. Why would this be (1.8 GB difference) if all else is the same?
Is it something to do with dalvik/cache? Speaking of it, is it safe to wipe the dalvik/cache through TWRP now that I have Link2SD set up with 30+ apps linked? Do I then just relink the dalvik files after rebooting? Or do things get messed up? I'm hesitant to do any of that because I have everything working well now, except the free space issue.
Or, if I multi-select and then choose to relink everything (apk, dex, internal data), could that help? Everything appears to already be linked correctly, so would relinking mess it up? Also, as a side note, I don't have any lib files linked as I have found that in the past it did mess things up for me. It would cause some apps to re-optimize at every boot, I think because the lib files wouldn't relink, even though I enabled it in the Link2SD settings. So now I stay away from that and all else is good, except this free space issue.
Any ideas on a solution? Is there something else taking up free space that's not listed in internal or system memory? Maybe downloaded Google play books? Or are they listed in the app data? Is the free space shown not correct, and it's actually more? I just can't figure it out. Any ideas would be great. Thanks!!!!
Here are the screenshots. You can see 5.76GB vs 4.07GB, but only 6.94GB vs 7.34GB for internal space difference. Why?