Root issues + confused after 4.0.4 update - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
i bought a Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300 about two months ago, it's a Spanish device. I think the device came with 4.0.1 update of ICS, some weeks after buying it got 4.0.4 update and then using CF-Root 6.4 and Odin 1.85 managed to get root access so i was able to install busybox and UMS application from xda forums. So everything was working fine. Then, about 3 days ago i got an update notification which showed me a message which said "Updates will be provided in the request order preference" or something like this, i tried to update a few times more but no luck, i always got the same messages so i thought i had to wait for 4.1 update to get published but anyway everything was working fine.
The curious thing is yesterday ( August 25, 2012), when i woke up i noticed a firmware update was ready to be installed so went through it (without uninstalling CF-Root 6.4, supersu, etc.) but the strange thing was, after the update completed fine, went to settings to check the version and i saw it still/again was 4.0.4 version of ICS. Also noticed Google Play Books and Google Play Movies got installed so on one hand it seemed everything went fine cause new apps were there and everything worked as expected but on the other hand i think i already had 4.0.4 update installed on the device. Till that point one can think i got confused on the versions i got installed before the update and no major problem here. After that, as i already had root access on the device, i went to check if i still could run UMS app but it complained about missing root access so as i did before that last Android update took CF-Root 6.4 and Odin 1.85 to flash the device and get root access again (Without removing any previous install of CF-Root, super su, busybox, etc. ) but had no luck, so now it's not possible for me get root access again but i'm also still wondering how is it possible that today's update left the phone with the same Android version as before the update.
The only explanation i can find is the phone came with 4.0 version, first update got me to 4.0.1 and today's update guided me to the 4.0.4 but i'm still wondering why root access is not working as it should.
So my questions are, did i got confused about each version update? Then why can't i get root access again just repeating the same first process?
When opening busybox i can read "Not Enough Free Space in /system". Opening /system directory with Root Explorer i can read 1.05GB used, 436.39MB free. Is it right /system directory takes up to 1GB of the space? Why Busybox thinks there is 0.0MB free there?
Hope someone can help. Thanks in advanced!

Thousands of posts say OTA updates may fail if the phone is rooted .
Usual is to fail part way through an update ..
Suggest wipe the phone flash stock rom with Odin then root .
jje

JJEgan said:
Thousands of posts say OTA updates may fail if the phone is rooted .
Usual is to fail part way through an update ..
Suggest wipe the phone flash stock rom with Odin then root .
jje
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Thanks a lot for the info. Am i going to loose installed apps, system settings, etc when doing the suggested process? Do i really need to wipe the phone before flashing the phone? I suppose i can find stock rom for my model here in the forums. Thanks!!

Hi,
i'm looking for a stock firmware for my SGS3 BaseBand I9300XXLH1 but i'm not able to find it. I think the firmware which came with my phone is unbranded and from Spain. But the question which i'm wondering is, do i really need to flash the phone? Isn't possible to solve the issue in another manner? After updating through OTA the rooted device, what's supposed to went wrong?
Lastly, what's wrong on updating a stock rooted firmware using Phone/Android update system? Don't understand how doing that can break the phone forcing me to wipe data and flash the phone.
Hope someone can help. Thanks a lot!
PD: After rebooting the phone in recovery mode i can see stock recovery has been installed with last update. Hope someone can make a bit of sense about it all. Thanks in advanced.

sibok said:
Hi,
i'm looking for a stock firmware for my SGS3 BaseBand I9300XXLH1 but i'm not able to find it. I think the firmware which came with my phone is unbranded and from Spain. But the question which i'm wondering is, do i really need to flash the phone? Isn't possible to solve the issue in another manner? After updating through OTA the rooted device, what's supposed to went wrong?
Lastly, what's wrong on updating a stock rooted firmware using Phone/Android update system? Don't understand how doing that can break the phone forcing me to wipe data and flash the phone.
Hope someone can help. Thanks a lot!
PD: After rebooting the phone in recovery mode i can see stock recovery has been installed with last update. Hope someone can make a bit of sense about it all. Thanks in advanced.
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Get your firmware from here http://www.samfirmware.com/
then use odin to flash it, I had the same problem

Baseband is modem not firmware.
jje
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium

Thanks to both for your answers. Maybe it's stupid but i'm some what more peaceful knowing other people also happened the same issue although it still feels very weird. All i did is flashing with CF-Root 6.4.
I've been looking for the stock firmware which is supposed to came with my phone at sammobile site but i'm not able to find it, although at that point ( where the phone got the same update twice, 4.0.4 ) i don't think i can trust the information provided by the phone. Under phone settings i can see Model Number is GT-l9300 and Base Band Version is i9300XXLH1 but i can't find it no sammobile site. What i find at sammobile site is I9300XXBLH1 ( notice B letter ) but i think that before this weird behaviour happened the phone showed Base Band Version I9300XXBLFB.
Is it all possible or the weird one is me?
Kickasskev, did you got 4.0.4 update twice?
Thanks again to all!

REPEAT BASEBAND IS NOT FIRMWARE nor is it firmware version .
To locate firmware try CHECKFUS .
Or stock providers roms from the sticky on XDA .
jje

sibok said:
Hi,
i bought a Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-I9300 about two months ago, it's a Spanish device. I think the device came with 4.0.1 update of ICS, some weeks after buying it got 4.0.4 update and then using CF-Root 6.4 and Odin 1.85 managed to get root access so i was able to install busybox and UMS application from xda forums. So everything was working fine. Then, about 3 days ago i got an update notification which showed me a message which said "Updates will be provided in the request order preference" or something like this, i tried to update a few times more but no luck, i always got the same messages so i thought i had to wait for 4.1 update to get published but anyway everything was working fine.
The curious thing is yesterday ( August 25, 2012), when i woke up i noticed a firmware update was ready to be installed so went through it (without uninstalling CF-Root 6.4, supersu, etc.) but the strange thing was, after the update completed fine, went to settings to check the version and i saw it still/again was 4.0.4 version of ICS. Also noticed Google Play Books and Google Play Movies got installed so on one hand it seemed everything went fine cause new apps were there and everything worked as expected but on the other hand i think i already had 4.0.4 update installed on the device. Till that point one can think i got confused on the versions i got installed before the update and no major problem here. After that, as i already had root access on the device, i went to check if i still could run UMS app but it complained about missing root access so as i did before that last Android update took CF-Root 6.4 and Odin 1.85 to flash the device and get root access again (Without removing any previous install of CF-Root, super su, busybox, etc. ) but had no luck, so now it's not possible for me get root access again but i'm also still wondering how is it possible that today's update left the phone with the same Android version as before the update.
The only explanation i can find is the phone came with 4.0 version, first update got me to 4.0.1 and today's update guided me to the 4.0.4 but i'm still wondering why root access is not working as it should.
So my questions are, did i got confused about each version update? Then why can't i get root access again just repeating the same first process?
When opening busybox i can read "Not Enough Free Space in /system". Opening /system directory with Root Explorer i can read 1.05GB used, 436.39MB free. Is it right /system directory takes up to 1GB of the space? Why Busybox thinks there is 0.0MB free there?
Hope someone can help. Thanks in advanced!
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0. Remove all root apps from your phone.
1. Back up your rooted rom in cWM.
2. Use triangle away to get rid of the traingle.
3. Format system and cache.
4. Flash an official rom.
5. You should have all your apps + settings on a stock rom without the status being 'modified'.

victorator said:
0. Remove all root apps from your phone.
1. Back up your rooted rom in cWM.
2. Use triangle away to get rid of the traingle.
3. Format system and cache.
4. Flash an official rom.
5. You should have all your apps + settings on a stock rom without the status being 'modified'.
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I've used checkfus and now i know my firmware.
Thanks for the step by step tips, but my phone is not rooted so i cannot use cwm, triangleapp and so. I. Annot also remove cwm manager nor supersu. I suppose i'll have to flash stock firmware first of all. Am i right?

Pretty strange, first time i rooted the device through cf-root6.4 it run flawlessly, but now i had to remove the battery after flashing ( while device was on ) and enter into recovery mode by hand which started the rooting process.
Thanks!

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[Q] Missing Software Update option in Settings Menu!

Greetings,
first of all my GS2 is running stock 2.3.3, locked/unrooted!
I noticed that there was no "software Update" option in Settings > About Phone..in fact I couldn't find it anywhere!
I then did a factory reset of the phone...still no go. Removed the battery/SIM, rebooted, still nothing.
Will I *still* be able to update via KIES Desktop once the ICS update is available?
Thanks in advance!
GroovyMotion said:
Greetings,
first of all my GS2 is running stock 2.3.3, locked/unrooted!
I noticed that there was no "software Update" option in Settings > About Phone..in fact I couldn't find it anywhere!
I then did a factory reset of the phone...still no go. Removed the battery/SIM, rebooted, still nothing.
Will I *still* be able to update via KIES Desktop once the ICS update is available?
Thanks in advance!
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You are running a very very old firmware .
Kies is the method that will upgrade .
jje
JJEgan said:
You are running a very very old firmware .
Kies is the method that will upgrade .
jje
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I know but I got my phone last august and it was running this version...most GS2 in canada runs this one stock
unrooting
Sorry to reply late but this is same problem I faced. The reason was I unrooted the rooted phone and the unrooter could not recover it completely. What I did is mentioned in following sequence.
1) In January 2012, I rooted the my LG Optimus 2x phone. Installed CWM (ClockWorkMod) and took backup of original ROM and kept safe aside. The rooting was done with SuperOneClick.
2) After that at least 50 times changed various roms like Customized Stock, CM, MIUI, etc.
3) Just last month August 2012, I just wanted to update to new new official stock (V20i) in India so I restored the ORIGINAL ROM from backup in CWM and then unrooted with "R1: Stock Recovery Image - By Paul O'Brien" which was super smooth without any unrooting issue. But now the SOFTWARE UPDATE option is missing. I still dont have solution on this problem may be some expert may suggest the solution.
The most possible reason I can guess here is the UNROOTING methods are not fully recovering the mod signatures.
Whoever are having this problem is possible that they might have purchased the used phone from a person who might have ROOTED it and simply UNROOTED it before selling to next owner. I am not expert and I may be wrong but this is just what I think is possible according to my own experience.

[Q] Question re root limbo on GT-I9300 post Kies firmware update

Hi, appreciate this is my first post and thus my question will be regarded with a certain amount of skepticism.. am only posting cos I think my issue is unusual and have not been able to find a similar question/answer through my searches on this forum
Basically, the issue is I rooted my Galaxy S3 (GT-I9300) a month or so ago, installed clockwork mod and superuser etc,. however I held off flashing a ROM because I figured my OTA jellybean update was imminent and wanted to see what the touchwiz jellybean looked like before installing Cyanogen or another ROM. wasn't sure if the OTA would come thru once I shed the stock ROM
So I waited for weeks for the OTA (am on Orange, now Everything Everywhere, in the UK) and have not received it.. last week I went onto Kies and saw there was a new firmware update, so I updated thru Kies thinking that might be what was needed to receive the OTA JB update. updated the firmware but still no JB update - however, now when I check my root status on Root Checker, or try to use any app that requires root, I'm told that I don't have "proper" root access.
My question is updating the firmware over Kies, did that mess up my root access.. am I now unrooted? (this doesn't seem correct) It seems to me I am in a limbo of sorts - not properly rooted anymore, but not fully unrooted either. I want to root the thing again so I can install cyanogen or supernexus, and I would appreciate advice on what to do - should I do a factory reset and then root again as before, or will this cause issues.. was just gon soldier ahead and do it but aware that this may cause problems if my phone already has files from the previous attempt on there.. for example the SGS3 toolkit V.6.0.0 I'm using says not to proceed with its root operations on a phone "that's already rooted" so am hesitant to proceed. Any advice would be appreciated. cheers
You've lost root with the update, just root again and it's all good.

[Q] Frustrating Problem With Rooting

Hi guys. I have a Samsung Galaxy s3 GT-i9300 running 4.1.1 Baseband 19300XXDLIB.
I have been trying and trying and trying for the last few days to root my mobile. I take care following all of the steps and I have tried every type of root program and files I think are available but even though they download to the phone and reboot into their custom recovery, then install the files needed to root, none of them have worked!!
It's strange because the phone is just unrootable it seems. I have tried several versions of Odin. I've tried what should be 1 click rooters but nothing works! The most recent files I have used to download to my phone via Odin were CF-Auto-Root-m0-gti9300, CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4, SuperOneClickv2.2-ShortFuse, SuperOneClickv2.3.1-ShortFuse and SuperOneClickv2.3.3-ShortFuse all of which have been recommended to me and I have strictly followed YouTube videos and written guides. I don't think I am doing anything wrong yet I still have no root access. The last root I tried installed a CWM app (I know it stands for Clock Work Mod but not sure what I am supposed to do with it) but not SuperSU which is supposed to come with it.
Please can someone help? I'm tearing my hair out here!
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
Many thanks
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
No you can only guess .
TO ROOT .
Factory reset the phone and install CF root 6.4 via Odin .
But its really pointless rooting when you don't have a clue as to why or what .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store? And be sure to not try superuser but supersu.
I had the same thing with cf-autoroot. supersu wasn't there and I didn't have root. Tried several times, never worked. After that I tried rooting with the old cf-root that also installs cwm recovery. Recovery was there but no supersu and the phone didn't get root. Tried that several times too but that didn't help either, although that is how I rooted my phone successfully right after I had bought it. Went back to cf-autoroot, same result, no root. But as soon as I downloaded the app supersu manually and updated the binarys as it tells you to at first start, I had root.
Zelmer said:
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
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Kies is not required (and its junkie bloatware that doesn't properly clean itself up on uninstall anyway)
Windows can pull the drivers from WU.
You Sir, are a legend! Thank you very much, you have sorted my problem I had SuperUser instead of SuperSU like you stated. Who would've thought it'd be so easy to fix?
shamez23 said:
Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store? And be sure to not try superuser but supersu.
I had the same thing with cf-autoroot. supersu wasn't there and I didn't have root. Tried several times, never worked. After that I tried rooting with the old cf-root that also installs cwm recovery. Recovery was there but no supersu and the phone didn't get root. Tried that several times too but that didn't help either, although that is how I rooted my phone successfully right after I had bought it. Went back to cf-autoroot, same result, no root. But as soon as I downloaded the app supersu manually and updated the binarys as it tells you to at first start, I had root.
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You should probably not just imagine that just because someone has a problem that they don't have a clue what they are doing. I have done this numerous amounts of times with several phones, my Samsung was just slightly more difficult since I had made an easy mistake by not taking note of my original firmware and by not realizing that I needed SuperSU and not SuperUser (which I'm sure is a common and easy mistake).
Try next time not to put a fellow site member down.
JJEgan said:
I should probably point out I am not using the stock ROM as I did manage to brick my phone at one point and had to install another firmware, although I would like to go back to my original firmware yet I am not sure what it was...is it possible to figure out what the stock firmware should be? The phone is unbranded from the UK.
No you can only guess .
TO ROOT .
Factory reset the phone and install CF root 6.4 via Odin .
But its really pointless rooting when you don't have a clue as to why or what .
BASICS .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
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I did actually install Kies but thanks for the help anyway
Zelmer said:
May also be because your computer hasn't been installed with the samsung drivers yet? Kies i think it's called..
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[Q] Cannot Update to 4.1.2

I have 4.1.1 Jellybean on my phone, is unlocked, an had no trouble updating to 4.1.1 from ICS. Now that my phone shows "Updates Available", downloads them files( I think), but does not install and rather says "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available". The new updates I have seen in my mate's phone are good, and as he told me he had no trouble updating to it unlike mine.
What is the problem and the best way to solve this issue?
Also I'd like to ask, if I used Odin to update it manually, will I be able to update my phone with later releases without having to use Odin again?
airbends said:
I have 4.1.1 Jellybean on my phone, is unlocked, an had no trouble updating to 4.1.1 from ICS. Now that my phone shows "Updates Available", downloads them files( I think), but does not install and rather says "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available". The new updates I have seen in my mate's phone are good, and as he told me he had no trouble updating to it unlike mine.
What is the problem and the best way to solve this issue?
Also I'd like to ask, if I used Odin to update it manually, will I be able to update my phone with later releases without having to use Odin again?
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You answered your question yourself...modified = no ota update. Go back to stock unmodified or easier, download the new version from xda or sammobile and flash via odin
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
OTA on rooted phones.
airbends said:
I have 4.1.1 Jellybean on my phone, is unlocked, an had no trouble updating to 4.1.1 from ICS. Now that my phone shows "Updates Available", downloads them files( I think), but does not install and rather says "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available". The new updates I have seen in my mate's phone are good, and as he told me he had no trouble updating to it unlike mine.
What is the problem and the best way to solve this issue?
Also I'd like to ask, if I used Odin to update it manually, will I be able to update my phone with later releases without having to use Odin again?
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Well i don't know what you mean with "unlocked" . If you mean rooted then it's easy :fingers-crossed:. You might have rooted with CF-Root or Toolbox or whatever. And in that process you were forced to install Clockworkmod Recovery and that's the reason you can't get OTA. If you want to have a rooted phone and OTA all you have to do is. Root your phone, stay on stock rom and flash the stock recovery via odin. But this means you loose CWM Recovery and a lot of the fun part about a rooted phone is gone.
Pure Drive GT said:
Well i don't know what you mean with "unlocked" . If you mean rooted then it's easy :fingers-crossed:. You might have rooted with CF-Root or Toolbox or whatever. And in that process you were forced to install Clockworkmod Recovery and that's the reason you can't get OTA. If you want to have a rooted phone and OTA all you have to do is. Root your phone, stay on stock rom and flash the stock recovery via odin. But this means you loose CWM Recovery and a lot of the fun part about a rooted phone is gone.
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What part of "Unlocked" is confusing to you? It means the phone can run any sim card of any sim provider, thats what I meant, and no, the phone is not rooted or never even have tried rooting it... Never mind, I factory reset the phone and the update is done. Anyways kudos for your reply
Cheers!

[Q] [Troubleshoot] Can't root or unroot my phone

About a month ago I rooted my Samsung Galaxy Grand(the single sim version) with the help of Klingo Root, worked like a charm and had no problems at all. I even uninstalled all the bloatware samsung and the carrier had installed. About 3 weeks ago then an official update poped-up, so I updated my phone through Samsung Kies. Everything went fine, but after the reboot of the phone I noticed that all the bloatware was back, so I just figured, maybe i have to uninstall it again.
But then disaster struck SuperU said there is no SU Binary installed, so I though could have the update unrooted my phone? So I tried rooting it again with Klingo, doesn't work, I tried Framaroot, doesn't work either, I even tried to install Clockworkmod with Odin and it doesn't work. I even repeated the procedure while factory resetting my phone.
Has anyone else encountered this? It seems my phone is somewhere in between being unrooted and rooted? Everything else works fine.
Help! I just want to uninstall the carrier bloatware!
Difference In Android Firmware
ne6c said:
About a month ago I rooted my Samsung Galaxy Grand(the single sim version) with the help of Klingo Root, worked like a charm and had no problems at all. I even uninstalled all the bloatware samsung and the carrier had installed. About 3 weeks ago then an official update poped-up, so I updated my phone through Samsung Kies. Everything went fine, but after the reboot of the phone I noticed that all the bloatware was back, so I just figured, maybe i have to uninstall it again.
But then disaster struck SuperU said there is no SU Binary installed, so I though could have the update unrooted my phone? So I tried rooting it again with Klingo, doesn't work, I tried Framaroot, doesn't work either, I even tried to install Clockworkmod with Odin and it doesn't work. I even repeated the procedure while factory resetting my phone.
Has anyone else encountered this? It seems my phone is somewhere in between being unrooted and rooted? Everything else works fine.
Help! I just want to uninstall the carrier bloatware!
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When you update your software it actually update your firmware. So the previous method will not work for this firmware.
1. you need to do it with different method if developers found it for you
2. just installed previous version of android .
3. May be fixed by factory reset..
4. You can even install prerooted custom rom like CM11
As per my experience new update will not that much compactible for all phones..
Hi, I'll start from the beginning, so I have a smart phone vodafone 2 (Alcatel V860) I wanted to upload the new software but accidentally I uploaded a backup of the tablet, after uploading the backup phone can not be connected as the flash mode, or in any way, you can not enter the recovery can not in any way connect the computer, the phone is as if dead. when I connect it to the computer when it is turned off the sound indicating that a new device has been detected, however, this software can not be installed. I hope that there will be a magician who already had a similar problem and knows what to do. Please help as soon as possible, if anyone knows what's going on I can talk about it on skype because it seems to me that it will be hard to even describe.
Thanks in advance.
aditya.kamble said:
When you update your software it actually update your firmware. So the previous method will not work for this firmware.
1. you need to do it with different method if developers found it for you
2. just installed previous version of android .
3. May be fixed by factory reset..
4. You can even install prerooted custom rom like CM11
As per my experience new update will not that much compactible for all phones..
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Can I then "downgrade" through Samsung Kies then?
Flash Firmware through Odin...
ne6c said:
Can I then "downgrade" through Samsung Kies then?
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No... Samsung kies doesnt provide feature to downgrade android.
You need to flash firmware package through odin.
you can google it for your device or search on xda...
All the best..
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