sorry i posted this under an irratating name and didnt find the button to edit the topic title
m trying to set up a desktop like experience with the xperia s, im just in the beginning and have upgraded the phone to the newest hardware.
what im trying to do is in no particular order
1) connect the x S to a preferably vga monitor
2) connect the x S to a powered USB HUB (with at least mouse and keyboard)
is it possible to have a USB HUB running with the devices and at the same time charge the phone?
3) install Ubuntu on the phone
obviously it should work 1 & 2 & 3 at the same time
maybe someone knows which problems i may encounter?
thanks in advance for answering
1) No, HDMI only
2) No, you can't charge a hub master from the hub
3) Installing Ubuntu is possible with chroot, but it will be slow.
K900 said:
1) No, HDMI only
2) No, you can't charge a hub master from the hub
3) Installing Ubuntu is possible with chroot, but it will be slow.
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i think your only right with your second point
konsch said:
i think your only right with your second point
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No. The Xperia S doesn't have VGA outputs (obviously) and chrooted Ubuntu will not have hardware acceleration for the UI (well, for anything) because there are no Adreno X drivers, therefore it will fall back to vesa (software) which, combined with Unity, will be SLOW.
K900 said:
No. The Xperia S doesn't have VGA outputs (obviously) and chrooted Ubuntu will not have hardware acceleration for the UI (well, for anything) because there are no Adreno X drivers, therefore it will fall back to vesa (software) which, combined with Unity, will be SLOW.
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dont you think one can use a micro hdmi vga adapter??
konsch said:
dont you think one can use a micro hdmi vga adapter??
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Basically, VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. You'll need a converter to do that, not a simple cable.
K900 said:
Basically, VGA is analog, HDMI is digital. You'll need a converter to do that, not a simple cable.
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ok thanks for your insight so it is easier with a dvi monitor i guess?
is there a linux system which works without chroot??
konsch said:
ok thanks for your insight so it is easier with a dvi monitor i guess?
is there a linux system which works without chroot??
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It is not easier because HDMI and DVI formats are not compatible. And no, there's no native Linux on Qcom devices. Even if we were to build a native system, it wouldn't have any graphics acceleration.
1. use a hdmi screen
2. best bet is to use the Sony Livedock and connect a wireless keyboard/mouse combo that works from one usb dongle. (i use this http://www.staples.co.uk/technology...yboards-and-mice/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400), works like a charm.
3. not sure, sorry. i know there is a way of running some sort of windows 95 emulator or something, but don't know about any linux dist.
my setup is hdmi out to my hdmi projector with logitech k400 conntected via livedock, so the phone can charge while i'm using it for things like internet browsing/long emails etc. also if you need to connect more devices, like a separate dongle for mouse.keyboard and maybe usb flash drive and usb controller at the same time, you can use a usb hub connected to the live dock. i use a non powered one and can connect my logitech k400, an xbox controller (wired) and a usb microsd reader at the same time).
hope that helps.
K900 said:
It is not easier because HDMI and DVI formats are not compatible.
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As far as I am aware they are for video - no audio on DVI.
I have a DVI to HDMI cable connecting my media center pc to my tv and another one connecting the HDMI on my sky+ box with the DVI on a monitor?
Si
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simonf7 said:
As far as I am aware they are for video - no audio on DVI.
I have a DVI to HDMI cable connecting my media center pc to my tv and another one connecting the HDMI on my sky+ box with the DVI on a monitor?
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I don't think the format the Xperia S uses is DVI compatible.
I thought we can install ubuntu as a virtual machine in android. It slow but bearable.
The crooth thinggy if not mistaken is an emulator, so it is slower.
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darth5zaft said:
I thought we can install ubuntu as a virtual machine in android. It slow but bearable.
The crooth thinggy if not mistaken is an emulator, so it is slower.
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No. Chroot (CHange ROOT) is a way to run Linux on an Android kernel, which is as fast computationally as a native boot.
K900 said:
I don't think the format the Xperia S uses is DVI compatible.
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It is compatible. I have a cheapo HDMI to DVI adaptor that I use to connect the cable that came with the phone to my DVI only monitor and it works as it should.
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Hello,
Has anyone tried to connect x10 with tv? Should it be connected via usb or 3,5mm jack? Maybe there is some some app needed?
THX for answear.
I suggest you read your owners manual, especially the section covering features of the X10.
Hook up a camcorder directly to the tv, and point it at whatever is playing on your x10
LOL very funny but we prefer hd and not recorded crap
You will have to wait for the DLNA support that is coming to the X10.
dk2000zx said:
LOL very funny but we prefer hd and not recorded crap
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Use and HD camcorder then...
naplesbill said:
You will have to wait for the DLNA support that is coming to the X10.
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Of course, you will need a DLNA compliant TV/Receiver... You can probably hook up as an external drive to a USB media player, but I haven't tried it...
Again, of course you'll need all of these to be HD capable in order to get HD...
Now, while the 3.5mm audio jack question seemed a bit silly, chek here: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/samsung-galaxy-s-video-out-through-audio-port - so I guess, theoretically it is possible...
k1sr said:
Use and HD camcorder then...
Of course, you will need a DLNA compliant TV/Receiver... You can probably hook up as an external drive to a USB media player, but I haven't tried it...
Again, of course you'll need all of these to be HD capable in order to get HD...
Now, while the 3.5mm audio jack question seemed a bit silly, chek here: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/samsung-galaxy-s-video-out-through-audio-port - so I guess, theoretically it is possible...
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Actually, there will be set top boxes for DLNA. HTC announce one today. It is something that I believe will work on the XBox 360 as well.
Yes, but HTC has also an hardware chip for DLNA support.
I connected it once using my brother's n900's cable. it only gave me audio on the tv
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Yes, but HTC has also an hardware chip for DLNA support.
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I don't think so. (for example you don't need to have special hardware chip on PC to make it DLNA compatible player, server or controler)
the video out is different .. there is hardware support needed
does tv out really need hardware support?
i was thinking about capturing screen, and then translate the signal to something you can send over usb (usb to a/v cable) to your tv ... but i lack knowledge in dealing with hardware at programming ...
http://pocketnow.com/android/galaxy-s-can-do-hdmi-out-via-micro-usb-port-1
Like this? Should be great.
arizhasan said:
I connected it once using my brother's n900's cable. it only gave me audio on the tv
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I'm no expert on the subject, but if DLNA is being released in the 2.1 update (i cant remember if DLNA is this update or the next one) then maybe it would be worth trying with the connected cable after that...
ronniecross said:
I'm no expert on the subject, but if DLNA is being released in the 2.1 update (i cant remember if DLNA is this update or the next one) then maybe it would be worth trying with the connected cable after that...
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Nope. DLNA is over a network.
ahhh ok, like i say, no expert
When i want to watch stuff i've recorded i just plug my X10 into my PS3 via usb.
Hi, does anyone know what cable is needed to connect to TV.
sleeco said:
Hi, does anyone know what cable is needed to connect to TV.
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It is a MHL cable and AFAIK, no one sells them yet..expect them to be out soon..other option is if you have a dlna compatible tv or box, u can use that wirelessly to stream videos/pictures but dlna AFAIK doesnt mirror the screen like mhl would.
MiniUSB to HDMI
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MiniUSB to HDMI
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No, its the MHL cable/adapter the earlier poster mentioned.
Both MHL and Micro-USB-to-HDMI will work but the MHL cable has the added benefit of it being able to charge the phone at the same time.
How will mini USB work when the SGSII has a micro USB port, and no mini USB port? The only possible port to connect HDMI to is the micro USB port, and the only possible technology to output HDMI from that port is MHL.
when should we see these cables?
Clove are saying in June, Expansys are saying end of May (but Expansys and release date reliability hardly go hand in hand). I'd go with the Clove date for now.
There is a chance they'll be available for purchase before then from the US, since the Infuse 4G comes with adapter in its retail box (Phonedog have an unboxing up one youTube).
Does this phone do HDMI mirroring like the Optimus G2X?
Nobody knows, since there are no MHL accessories available.
steve228uk said:
Both MHL and Mini-USB-to-HDMI will work but the MHL cable has the added benefit of it being able to charge the phone at the same time.
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don't you mean micro?
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soraxd said:
don't you mean micro?
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From the context of the earlier posts it seems like he really does mean mini USB. Uninformed people really shouldn't be answering questions in here.
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don't you mean micro?
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Yep, that's the one *slaps forehead*
making a hack to allow a lapdock/webtop software to work on a PC. i have a 17 inch PC and dont want to give up that for a 12 inch lapdock, or buy a tv to use webtop.
Jonathanlc2005 said:
making a hack to allow a lapdock/webtop software to work on a PC. i have a 17 inch PC and dont want to give up that for a 12 inch lapdock, or buy a tv to use webtop.
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if the monitor has a hdmi port, then you can buy the microhdmi to hdmi cable and use the webtop hack to use webtop...same thing if your monitor has a dvi port, you just need the right adapters...
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if the monitor has a hdmi port, then you can buy the microhdmi to hdmi cable and use the webtop hack to use webtop...same thing if your monitor has a dvi port, you just need the right adapters...
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i have a laptop... im looking to use lapdock software
Why?
But if you're really wanting this grab the full webtop Linux distro then run vnc.
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Does ur laptop have a video in port??? Cause most do not.....
Good luck
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i doubt u can do it.
I intend to install Ubuntu on my phone and then use a docking station at work to run as a PC.
There are two issues I need some advice on from the good people at xda...
1) I've tried two different USB3 universal docks with an Ubuntu laptop but could not get the attached monitor (via displaylink) to work with Ubuntu 13.04. Ethernet, and USB devices (keyboard, mouse and flash key) work fine.
Anyone found a usb dock that works with Ubuntu 13.04 pre-release?
I tried these
Toshiba dynadock
http://us.toshiba.com/accessory/PA3927U-1PRP
Targus
http://www.targus.com/us/productdet...evel1=products&cp=&bannertxt=Docking Stations
2) If I can find a laptop dock that works with Ubuntu 13.04, I then want to push my luck a little further. What I am searching for is a suitable universal dock that WILL CHARGE a docked Ubuntu phone (connected via a USB OTG cable). The dock would need to be of the USB 3 variety so it can be used by laptop owners also. All of the universal USB laptop docks do not seem to charge the docked device (since they expect a laptop not a smartphone/tablet).
Some rough motivators for a business
Rough costs in Australia for us would be
Current User
Desktop User : Desktop plus smartphone (nexus) = $700 + $400 = $1100
Laptop user : Ultrabook plus smartphone = $1500 + $400 = $1900
Future User
Ubuntu phone plus docking station = $400 + $200 (say) = $600
Some of this saving, I would expect to go into Canonical support agreement & unlimited phone plans
Cheers,
Tony
I don't really understand what you're trying to say here. Assuming you're talking about Ubuntu for Android, the only way to get this to work as soon as the Ubuntu for mobile image is out, is by porting it to a Motorola smartphone that supports Motorola's dock like the one's Canonical uses in their. Or you could get a smartphone that has HDMI.
Thanks for the response
Actually, it's not the Ubuntu for Android I am referring to but the Ubuntu OS which is dockable as a full PC.
I have had no luck locating a USB universal dock with which the latest Ubuntu supports the inbuilt displaylink video adapter. Also, none of the docks seem to provide charging over USB to the host device, only the peripherals.
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Thanks for the response
Actually, it's not the Ubuntu for Android I am referring to but the Ubuntu OS which is dockable as a full PC.
I have had no luck locating a USB universal dock with which the latest Ubuntu supports the inbuilt displaylink video adapter. Also, none of the docks seem to provide charging over USB to the host device, only the peripherals.
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It's not even out yet so it's not a good idea to get a head start.
You're probably correct.
I'm assuming that the OS that boots on the phone is a full Ubuntu 13.04 kernel.
On that basis, I've been testing universal docks with my laptop running Raring Ringtail prereleases.
I expected they'd just work but so far not.
Thanks for your replies.
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And the Nexus 7 has been a useful test also of the Canonical image for 13.04.
Using a USB OTG cable, I could see that the behaviour was consistent with that of a laptop on the universal dock. Ethernet and USB ports were passed through to the nexus 7 and operated as expected. The displaylink video support seems to be lacking at present.
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I can completely see the merrit of your research, and I think you're going down the right path. I too will be looking at implimenting something similar at work, as it just makes sense! I think you are correct - working to find a dock that works with 13.04 on desktop/tablet will be of benefit for docking Ubuntu for Phones, especially the Nex7 as it's running ARM processor. I'll do some research time permitting myself, see if I can get anything working. I only have a targus USB 2.0 dock to play with currently though.
Some more information on this.
Apparently any USB3 docking stations consisting of the Displaylink DL-3000 series adapters DO NOT SUPPORT linux.
http://displaylink.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1748
It seems like the best bet is to plug a DL-195 series adapter into the USB hub of a DL-3000 based docking station and then your Ubuntu superphone should detect that.
http://displaylink.com/shop/adapters
This still needs to be confirmed by someone with access to a DL-195 Displaylink adapter.
Very disappointing.
get the minihdmi to hdmi adapter that has the extra hole for the power. I use that connected to my dock with bluetooth keyboard/mouse plugged into the TV running the ubunut via chroot.
Have you got a link to the one you purchased?
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I think an MHL to HDMI adapter should do the trick. I picked one up off from Amazon for about $3. We'll see how it does when the Ubuntu Phone OS image is released for the Galaxy Nexus.
My BT keyboard, BT mouse and Samsung HDTV are just begging for some Ubuntu from my phone .
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Mhl to hdmi. My fault.
I picked it up from monoprice. I think they only had two different ones.
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MikeyCriggz said:
I think an MHL to HDMI adapter should do the trick. I picked one up off from Amazon for about $3. We'll see how it does when the Ubuntu Phone OS image is released for the Galaxy Nexus.
My BT keyboard, BT mouse and Samsung HDTV are just begging for some Ubuntu from my phone .
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That makes me wonder - will they integrate Ubuntu TV, too?
Kookas said:
That makes me wonder - will they integrate Ubuntu TV, too?
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I highly doubt it. At least not at first.
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Kookas said:
That makes me wonder - will they integrate Ubuntu TV, too?
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That's what there aiming for one OS for PC,TV,phones and tablets also media devices if u count that
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Has anyone tried running keyboards, mouse or gamepads with JellyBean?
I don't have OTG Cable and I can't test any device, but if someone have tested it with the JB update can talk about it here and let the others Desire X's users know
I've tried mouse and usb flash drive. Both work just fine
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JoseluSpark said:
Has anyone tried running keyboards, mouse or gamepads with JellyBean?
I don't have OTG Cable and I can't test any device, but if someone have tested it with the JB update can talk about it here and let the others Desire X's users know
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mouse works fine!
I will buy a OTG cable soon. I would try to test any gamepad device, I have two 360 Controller (one wired, one wireless with respective receiver). I read from somewhere in xda that now it's possible to connect wireless receiver to Android... well, I swear that our DX can support it too! It will be great for emulators like ePSXe...
Does it support USB 2.5 inch harddisks as well? Did anyone test? I will buy an otg cable soon, too, so I would like to know if it works...
well, Joysticks and Controller does'nt work for me
but Flash Drive, Keyboard, Mouse Does
although USB OTG is Very CHEAP
Costed me 30 INR or $0.55
Did you download any app? And what ROM are you using?
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I'm using myONEdx+ RC 1.0, finally I got a OTG usb cable today and I tested a usb PC keyboard and a wireless mouse with usb receiver and both work fine.
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Does it support USB 2.5 inch harddisks as well? Did anyone test? I will buy an otg cable soon, too, so I would like to know if it works...
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I suppose that usb HDD without external AC input won't work, I think that Desire X's usb doesn't have enough power for that.
ankahuja said:
well, Joysticks and Controller does'nt work for me
but Flash Drive, Keyboard, Mouse Does
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What joysticks and controller did you tested? I will try with an USB Xbox360 controller when I'm done with my exams.
JoseluSpark said:
I'm using myONEdx+ RC 1.0, finally I got a OTG usb cable today and I tested a usb PC keyboard and a wireless mouse with usb receiver and both work fine.
I suppose that usb HDD without external AC input won't work, I think that Desire X's usb doesn't have enough power for that.
What joysticks and controller did you tested? I will try with an USB Xbox360 controller when I'm done with my exams.
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Xbox controller will work fine
You will be needing an app
Called
USB/BT Josystick center 7 (play store) and also its server
To make it work
May I ask, which usb otg cable have you bought? I don't want to buy a false one
rooted DX or unrooted?
whether otg supports on rooted DX jb or unrooted DX jb...???
OTG is supported with and without root rights.
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otg support
sorry for once again asking this...i am using DX ICS(unrooted)..but it has no OTG support....whether upgrading to JB supports OTG??..please clarify my doubt..
ashok4344 said:
sorry for once again asking this...i am using DX ICS(unrooted)..but it has no OTG support....whether upgrading to JB supports OTG??..please clarify my doubt..
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Yes.
Upgrade to JB and you'll have OTG support.
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Just got a usb harddrive to work using external power. It's ntfs formatted, so I used Paragon NTFS mount from Play Store. The drive itself doesn't have a power supply, but I connected a USB Y-power cable to it and plugged in the other side to my laptop. Will try a mobile USB charger as well as soon as I'll get one.
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how much does usb otg affects battery life?
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how much does usb otg affects battery life?
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Don't know yet, but will report as soon as I tested more (currently waiting for mobile charger).
ankahuja said:
Xbox controller will work fine
You will be needing an app
Called
USB/BT Josystick center 7 (play store) and also its server
To make it work
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I can't make it run with USB/BT Joystick Center 7, also did tried with 6 and none.
Do you know how to get it running?
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I can't make it run with USB/BT Joystick Center 7, also did tried with 6 and none.
Do you know how to get it running?
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YouTube
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YouTube
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But the xbox controller in the video is a wired one, mine is like the one attached in the photo, wireless controller with Windows receiver (also, mine is a third party receiver). Also I tried with others USB PC adapters I have, like one N64+PSX to usb and another one that is 2 PSX/2 controllers to USB, and don't work on it. If I can, I will try on a Xperia Ray and look if it works on it...