hi,
There are 3 Touch Buttons at the Bottom of Xperia S.
Back, Home, Menu
These 3 Touch Buttons does not respond very frequently. Back Touch Button is the worst.
And This annoying me very much..
How is your Xperia S? Do you have any tips?
What firmware version do you have? For me, version 6.1.A.2.45 improvement the responsiveness of the buttons. It still isn't perfect but at least it feels much better than previous firmwares.
They tend to be kinda unresponsive, but I found a way to not miss, I slide my finger upwards from the transparent bar going to the screen area, pressing the button on my way up without missing. It's kinda lame when you think about it, but you get used to it, it comes naturally when navigating using the soft keys.
dm_alka said:
What firmware version do you have? For me, version 6.1.A.2.45 improvement the responsiveness of the buttons. It still isn't perfect but at least it feels much better than previous firmwares.
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I am using MIUI V4 2.8.31. it based on ROM version 6.1.A.1.58.
Do you think this could be better or fixed with Firmware?
What i am thinking is this problem can be a Hardware problem. I am not sure.. but. i just have such feel...
DrKrFfXx said:
They tend to be kinda unresponsive, but I found a way to not miss, I slide my finger upwards from the transparent bar going to the screen area, pressing the button on my way up without missing. It's kinda lame when you think about it, but you get used to it, it comes naturally when navigating using the soft keys.
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Then i should practice with your tip..
Do you think also this could be better with other firmware?
kleinsteinjung said:
hi,
There are 3 Touch Buttons at the Bottom of Xperia S.
Back, Home, Menu
These 3 Touch Buttons does not respond very frequently. Back Touch Button is the worst.
And This annoying me very much..
How is your Xperia S? Do you have any tips?
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I never have any prob's.. Just press a bit to the left of the buttons, you won't miss even once
Use the thank button, it's there for a reason
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Harsh7689 said:
I never have any prob's.. Just press a bit to the left of the buttons, you won't miss even once
Use the thank button, it's there for a reason
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Well.. then.. i need just a practice. after that, i will write the report here again...
I think you just need some time to get used to pressing them.
At first I had problems too and had to swipe up on the buttons to get them to register.
Now, I have a 100% "hit accuracy" on the buttons without having to slide.
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ever notice when your hands become moist...and when u r pressing an alphabet on the soft keyboard.after u release your fingers..the button will remain pressed or some totally different button will be pressed.
also once u press the keyboard, it will start pressing screen alphabets on its own?...as if some ghost has taken over control.
also..when hands are moist....and u try to unlock the screen or take the call...the slider wont respond to your fingers movement..and i have missed so many calls due to this.
just simple function was tapping on an app becomes so difficult as it ll open up some other app..
i am thinking it could be due to the default screen protector film provided from factory.
anyone with any other android phone face such a problem?
iphone 4 doesnt have this problem
Nocturnal310 said:
i am thinking it could be due to the default screen protector film provided from factory.
anyone with any other android phone face such a problem?
iphone 4 doesnt have this problem
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It happens with and without the screen protector. I'm not sure if I have ever experienced this on an Iphone, or as prevelent as on the x10.
Any screen that relies on conductive tech will do this
yetep said:
Any screen that relies on conductive tech will do this
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havent noticed it on other phones.
including X1i ..the first xperia running crappy windows mobile.
i mean touchscreen does give problem with fingers are wet.
but here when fingers are even slightly moist..it starts acting unusable.
i am thinkin of changing the factory fitted protective film
Yea it does get really annoying... and then when it's cold, the warmth from your finger produces condensation on the screen, so I have to sometimes wipe the screen and my fingers dry before the phone's usable.
I agree, it is really hard especially when you press the delete key on your keyboard and erase everything!
I hope that this problem gets solved when multi touch get released, because the screen reception is handled different than now
That's why I keep a towel attached to the hook on the bottom of the phone.
harrypalmero said:
That's why I keep a towel attached to the hook on the bottom of the phone.
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hahahah too much wack n jack lol!
Nocturnal310 said:
havent noticed it on other phones.
including X1i ..the first xperia running crappy windows mobile.
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Ok, the X1 was resistive, and under no circumstances whatsoever will wet fingers effect a resistive touch screen like this... Obviously if you use a resistive touch screen under water, you will have some problems.
Apple have been doing capacitive touch screens for a lot longer than sony, so they've probably got their act together on that... Mind you, this is of course one of the drawbacks of the capacitive screen - it will never be as accurate as the resistive versions...
I don't know too much about capacitive screens, but I know you could adjust the sensitivity on a resistive screen... perhaps there's an app somewhere... maybe
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ever notice when your hands become moist...and when u r pressing an alphabet on the soft keyboard.after u release your fingers..the button will remain pressed or some totally different button will be pressed.
also once u press the keyboard, it will start pressing screen alphabets on its own?...as if some ghost has taken over control.
also..when hands are moist....and u try to unlock the screen or take the call...the slider wont respond to your fingers movement..and i have missed so many calls due to this.
just simple function was tapping on an app becomes so difficult as it ll open up some other app..
i am thinking it could be due to the default screen protector film provided from factory.
anyone with any other android phone face such a problem?
iphone 4 doesnt have this problem
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No use in removing the factory screen protector. Tried that before to see whether it improves the responsiveness, but it did either.
iPhone 4 also does have this problem and hence it's not related to phones, but it's their behavior under the given circumstances.
This is really annoying, missed so many calls and given up on typing so many sms's after starting over 3 times...
It's a pain when it's raining, and leads me to wonder if the new Motorola Defy can really function as advertised.
Still better than resistive, for me at least. My omnia screen is well knackered I guess because I pressed it too hard over too many months.
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The most annoying thing is that I can't answer a call because the slider goes half way to the right and then it returns back to the left! Crappy screen! My finger are always wet, I didn't have such problems with other phones, especially the iPhone was awesome..
guys this happen with me only while my x10 is charging...but still confusing i'm totally disappointed from SE because of many things the battery performance and so many things....
I wonder if there's a way to make the menu and back buttons act as red and green buttons on traditional phones?
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This issue is seriously making me consider getting rid of my x10
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curious_yellow_eyes said:
I wonder if there's a way to make the menu and back buttons act as red and green buttons on traditional phones?
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was wondering the same....i ve always hated sliding to take a call anyway..be it any touchscreen phone.
bazza_1988 said:
This issue is seriously making me consider getting rid of my x10
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i heard the problem is on iphone 4 also..so dont hate x10
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doesnt anyone hav a solution for this??!
it has seriously been a very big problem for me n im sure for many of the x10 users..
atleast isnt there a way to set a button or a key to answer calls??!
pasangamage said:
doesnt anyone hav a solution for this??!
it has seriously been a very big problem for me n im sure for many of the x10 users..
atleast isnt there a way to set a button or a key to answer calls??!
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the problem is due to it being buggy dual touch only... if we get true multi touch like brazil said it will help this issue
hope so
i hope we do.. cuz its been soo annoyin.. whts the point in havin a phone if u cant answer phone calls or type a simple text..
mmm things rnt lookin tht way though after seeing the preview video on youtube of the x10 wit the official GB update.. but.. lets wait n c n hope for the best
Right, the reason I have started this thread is, I see some discomfort using Back capacitive button. I am not complaining that buttons don't respond to touch, they do. All 3 of them.
Let me give you an example: I am playing with the phone, doing something on the screen. After, let's say few minutes, I want to go back, so I touch Back button, but it does not respond. I press few more times and eventually it registers. Some people would say "hit and miss" or "there is an issue with capacitive buttons". I say no, because I am touching it there, where I supposed to, also once it start registering, every time I press it, it registers (I have haptic feedback on, so I know it works). I have problems only, when I am not touching capacitive buttons for some time.
I hope I explained this well. I think this is, what in some reviews has been described as "hit and miss" or "capacitive buttons not register". Do you have the same problem? If yes, why is that happening? Is it software or hardware?
I don't have this problem because I realised that the most sensitive and best working area
for left/right button isactually in the inside space rather than exactly on those little points.
So once I press slightly to the middle, it works. It requires also a little longer press.
Ok, I will try that.
I do agree on the buttons. Probably the only thing to get used to, but one you do, no phone like it period! This is sick an amazing phone it is rediculous
The back button on my phone @ left corner is actually the best out of the three. and maybe I feel the same way about the middle "HOME" button where it registers little higher than the other two. actually I have hit it few times accidentally while I was trying to push the space bar on keyboard.
But every time I felt the haptic feedback, button worked.
I am happy with the performance of the buttons. It seems like they work like the power and eject buttons on the PS3. They respond when you remove your finger.
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The only thing I have to get used to...
Almost no extra hits anymore...
One touch is most of the times correct registered :-(
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Right, so by looks of it, there is no issue. Something I have to get used to. Thanks a lot guys. I also hope it will help future buyers as well.
I have not had any problems with the capacitive buttons so far and tbh i prefer them to hardware buttons like on the arc/play etc
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
I used to have a Nexus One and the buttons are similar to that, you sort of have to roll/slide your finger upwards on the button ever so slightly.
I barely notice it but I know what you mean.
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Good tip.
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indesisiv said:
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Yep doing the same
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pixate said:
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
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How can you be serious? I have both, and as perfect as the Xperia S is as an upgrade, its capacitive buttons are not as sharp and fool proof..that's my only gripe ...
Example situation of problem:
Right after finishing recording a decent length FullHD video, pressing home or back needs to be done repeatedly to register (MOST of the time).
Not a deal breaker, but I so hope this is software related..
I have the same issue but after one day of owning this phone im learning where to press to get a response first time
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Yeah, that works very well. Thanks.
I am just glad we have sorted it out and it turned out it is not a software or hardware issue. After reading some advises, my phone cooperates with me much better.
Hi folks,
Have you heard if ICS implementation includes plan to get rid of Touch key (capacitive button) on Galaxy Note I717?
I'm so tired of constantly pressing buttons by accident. (It's most likely the way I hold my phone but still that's the way I feel most comfortable)
What are your thoughts folks? Should these buttons be something I should be embracing instead? Should I go back to iphone? (just kidding!)
Seriously, does anyone know if they are going to remove these buttons?
Quick answer is no. You might be able to disable them and use icons.
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cyris69 said:
Quick answer is no. You might be able to disable them and use icons.
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What he said^^
While some wish to not have them period, many still make use of them everyday and to be honest, on screen only buttons arn't 100% reliable. I have only a home button on my Nook Color and rely on OnScreen buttons and sometimes you'll be tapping them with no response, but tapping the hom button works. If given the option to disable in lieu of Button Savior i would certainly try it out, but I would never want the buttons disabled completely with no option to enable.
Right I meant option to disable! I wonder if ROM developers will consider this option for my model
I know that when ics alpha came out on the Astrix it had the ics icon buttons even though the Astrix uses capacitive buttons. Later the touch buttons were removed
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Chief Geek said:
What he said^^
on screen only buttons arn't 100% reliable.
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On my Galaxy Nexus they were as much reliable as capacitive buttons. On screen buttons, in my opinion, is a plus for Android.
mark1s said:
On my Galaxy Nexus they were as much reliable as capacitive buttons. On screen buttons, in my opinion, is a plus for Android.
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I love on screen buttons and use them all the time, I'm just saying I do not want the hardware capability removed, just optional. I preferred Button Savior, if you havn't tried them give it a whirl, they are great.
I really don't mind the buttons. I just got my note last night and didn't think the s-pen not being able to use them would be a big deal. However, it is.....
BUT my biggest problem is the home and menu buttons are flipped compared to my tbolt. It's going to take awhile to adjust to that.
Is that how all samsung phones are?
schrochem said:
I really don't mind the buttons. I just got my note last night and didn't think the s-pen not being able to use them would be a big deal.
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You can make gestures with the s-pen that does exactly the same as pressing a button. Check it out!
http://youtu.be/kRIZhASNT4U
schrochem said:
BUT my biggest problem is the home and menu buttons are flipped compared to my tbolt. It's going to take awhile to adjust to that.
Is that how all samsung phones are?
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Took me about 2 days to ajust, it's not a big deal
Or is this just my phone?
If I press directly on the softkey dots (Back, Home, Menu) they do nothing, I have to press above them (nearer to the screen) for anything to happen, really quite annoying!
Karlos G said:
Or is this just my phone?
If I press directly on the softkey dots (Back, Home, Menu) they do nothing, I have to press above them (nearer to the screen) for anything to happen, really quite annoying!
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Try swiping upwards slightly on them.
So your saying yes you do?! lol
Any way to fix this, recalibration of the screen maybe? Although everything else responds to touch where it should.
i think everyone have that, just swipe a bit, thats the easiest way...
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Already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544009
My wife got recently Galaxy Note and buttons over there are so responsive. That's the only biggest flaw I have got with my XS. I kinda got used to it now, but there is still room for improvement. I really hope it is software related and will be corrected with ICS.
Karlos G said:
Or is this just my phone?
If I press directly on the softkey dots (Back, Home, Menu) they do nothing, I have to press above them (nearer to the screen) for anything to happen, really quite annoying!
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I Had that problem to is becose the screen protector, i removed the original one and now the dots are Very responsive and the visual angle improved, not much but is better. If you gonna remove it pay attention is realy hard to do it
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PollPixx said:
i think everyone have that, just swipe a bit, thats the easiest way...
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Cholek3 said:
Already been discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544009
My wife got recently Galaxy Note and buttons over there are so responsive. That's the only biggest flaw I have got with my XS. I kinda got used to it now, but there is still room for improvement. I really hope it is software related and will be corrected with ICS.
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optik19918 said:
I Had that problem to is becose the screen protector, i removed the original one and now the dots are Very responsive and the visual angle improved, not much but is better. If you gonna remove it pay attention is realy hard to do it
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Ok well thats sorts that out then, poor design by Sony IMO.. The most frequently used 'buttons' on the phone and they don't work if pressed centrally/directly!
I, like another user in the thread linked to above often press 'Home' when trying to press 'Space'... Also very annoying!
Its screen protectors fault, I removed mine like a week ago and they perfect
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I don't really think this is a real problem, because I always have to touch the screen slightly above where I want it to register. So I think it's the same with the buttons, I have to press slightly underneath the screen and this works perfectly every time.
It also helps to use the whole thumb instead of just the tip.
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Karlos G said:
Or is this just my phone?
If I press directly on the softkey dots (Back, Home, Menu) they do nothing, I have to press above them (nearer to the screen) for anything to happen, really quite annoying!
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Yep...slightly above the dots...same here
Colinn789 said:
Yep...slightly above the dots...same here
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same here
Karlos G said:
Ok well thats sorts that out then, poor design by Sony IMO.. The most frequently used 'buttons' on the phone and they don't work if pressed centrally/directly!
I, like another user in the thread linked to above often press 'Home' when trying to press 'Space'... Also very annoying!
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Same here lol...
What a waste Sony ...
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Ok well thats sorts that out then, poor design by Sony IMO.. The most frequently used 'buttons' on the phone and they don't work if pressed centrally/directly!
I, like another user in the thread linked to above often press 'Home' when trying to press 'Space'... Also very annoying!
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I never have this "press space and home key responded" problem.
But I do agree there is a certain degree of learning curve for the buttons.
Is anyone else having this issue? If I try to press the "volume down" physical button, if you're applying any "downward" pressure, like say sliding your finger off it, the edge sticks under the physical case and it stays held down. Not sure if this is worth returning it for, but I can see it being a pain if it gets worse. It happened last night and took me a few seconds to figure out why the display wasn't leaving the screen.
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Is anyone else having this issue? If I try to press the "volume down" physical button, if you're applying any "downward" pressure, like say sliding your finger off it, the edge sticks under the physical case and it stays held down. Not sure if this is worth returning it for, but I can see it being a pain if it gets worse. It happened last night and took me a few seconds to figure out why the display wasn't leaving the screen.
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Actually, now that I tested more, if you press either vol up / down on their "edge" (where the + and - symbols are) they both stick pretty easily. Not sure I like this at all. You don't even have to press hard, just press on the edge even with a fingernail. They almost feel like individual rockers more than buttons.
They are rockers for sure. Mine doesn't get stuck when using them thank goodness. I think it feels better with the buttons like that. Imo. I love the buttons on the back and I think I'm the minority in this
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They are rockers for sure. Mine doesn't get stuck when using them thank goodness. I think it feels better with the buttons like that. Imo. I love the buttons on the back and I think I'm the minority in this
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I like them there, I just don't like how easy they are getting stuck if you press them on the edges. Might just be a bad model, I'll have to stop by the store later.
I hadn't experienced it in daily use but I can make them stick if I press down on the edge like you mention above. I don't usually press it that way so I'm not too concerned.
I've tried to press the buttons every way possible and mine don't stick at all. Maybe exchange for a new device?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
I've tried to press the buttons every way possible and mine don't stick at all. Maybe exchange for a new device?
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This is an issue with the Verizon model. From the looks of your signature, you don't have a Verizon model, thus you're not going to experience this issue. :good:
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I'm having the same issue, but I don't think it'll be a deal breaker causing me to exchange.