According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
I saw that as well, I guess the system maybe requires some kind of integer to work with. But let's be honest who can possible use an average of 325GB per day in a 30 day time frame? Doubt our devices can dl that much per day to begin with.
I realize it's darn near impossible to do but it sure will be fun trying. Right now I have my Amaze in my desk dock and have been streaming the 9/11 memorial on http://www.ny1.com/content/pages/general/124256/ny1-live-video--9-11-anniversary-ceremony. Loving the freedom of Unlimited. Gonna get into some HBO Go after this!
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I realize it's darn near impossible to do but it sure will be fun trying. Right now I have my Amaze in my desk dock and have been streaming the 9/11 memorial on http://www.ny1.com/content/pages/general/124256/ny1-live-video--9-11-anniversary-ceremony. Loving the freedom of Unlimited. Gonna get into some HBO Go after this!
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I've been skyping and strictly using my S3 as my data connection for my laptop too, dl dumb files for no reason at all, barely capped 4GB tops in one day but I'm still pushing to see how far I can get, life is screwing it over though, lol.
Yup, its almost impossible to use all 10TB of data...unless you're downloading torrents all day, or running a high traffic server lol
Well I didn't want to start a new thread so I figured I could ask here.
I called t-mobile to switch to the new Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan, currently on the Unlimited - Premium 5GB plan, and I was told I would have to switch my rate plan. I am currently on Preferred FT 1500 NW and the retention department allowed me to keep myFaves with this plan, a while back. Now the rep told me that I would have to switch to one of the current Classic plans in order to even add the Unlimited Data plan. If that is the case my cost will go up around 100-120 a month in order to compensate for the minutes the myFaves is saving, just to switch to the truly Unlimited Data plan.
Does what this rep told me sound right? Does anyone still have an older plan still and switched to the new Unlimited Plan? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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Yup, its almost impossible to use all 10TB of data...unless you're downloading torrents all day, or running a high traffic server lol
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Actually, mathematically you should never be able to reach it. If you average 12 Mbps down, that translates to 1.5 MB per second X that by 2,592,000 seconds in a 30 day period its under 4000 GB per month. Even if you doubled that speed and were consistently using the web it would be under 8 TB of usage. Sorry, I was bored and math is my thing lol.
It probably would be wiser to switch to unlimited everything. Talk, Text and Data. $100 a month is really steep. I'm gonna go to Tmo today and see if I can make my account better. Currently I'm only paying $145 for 3 lines. My 3rd line is free till Jan 2014 because of the back to school promotion. But its only 500 talk and unlimited text. My 8yr old doesn't need data. She can connect to WiFi when shes at home.
Good job on the math. Lol
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Well I didn't want to start a new thread so I figured I could ask here.
I called t-mobile to switch to the new Unlimited Nationwide 4G Data plan, currently on the Unlimited - Premium 5GB plan, and I was told I would have to switch my rate plan. I am currently on Preferred FT 1500 NW and the retention department allowed me to keep myFaves with this plan, a while back. Now the rep told me that I would have to switch to one of the current Classic plans in order to even add the Unlimited Data plan. If that is the case my cost will go up around 100-120 a month in order to compensate for the minutes the myFaves is saving, just to switch to the truly Unlimited Data plan.
Does what this rep told me sound right? Does anyone still have an older plan still and switched to the new Unlimited Plan? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Actually, mathematically you should never be able to reach it. If you average 12 Mbps down, that translates to 1.5 MB per second X that by 2,592,000 seconds in a 30 day period its under 4000 GB per month. Even if you doubled that speed and were consistently using the web it would be under 8 TB of usage. Sorry, I was bored and math is my thing lol.
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Not sure about the data plan since from what I read that the classic or family plans are required or something of the sort, I'll look for a source in a bit.
Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Not sure about the data plan since from what I read that the classic or family plans are required or something of the sort, I'll look for a source in a bit.
Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Well it looks like the classic family plans are required I spoke with two different reps and they all said the same thing. Oh well.
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Lol at the math, did most of that too, nicely put together though.
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Lol Thanks =)
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I've been skyping and strictly using my S3 as my data connection for my laptop too, dl dumb files for no reason at all, barely capped 4GB tops in one day but I'm still pushing to see how far I can get, life is screwing it over though, lol.
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So you can use it to power your laptop?
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So you can use it to power your laptop?
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Power? Not quite but if you mean use it as your data connection? Yup, it's been my laptop, ipad, psvita wifi hotspot since I got the unlimited data, been skyping everyday with my girl:victory:.
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According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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Best response I've read all day
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9 Terrabytes is more data than your phone could pull down if left downloading 24/7 for a month...
It's a 'limit' in the same sense that a sign stating 'Speed Limit: Speed of Light' on the freeway would be... Yeah, it's a 'limit' number, but it's physically impossible (in the most literal sense) to get there...
So essentially it is unlimited
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9,765.6 Gigabytes = 10485733156454.4 bytes per month
times 8 bits/byte
83885865251635.2 bits per month
/30days/24hours/60min/60sec
32363373.94 bits/sec or ....
OVER 30.86 Megabits/sec constant for 1 full 30-day cycle!
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According to T-Mobile's website, their new 4G Unlimited plan has no slow downs if you go over a set amount. So I wonder, why does MyT-Mobile page show that I have Up to 9765.6 GB of full speed data? I mean, I doubt I'll ever use nearly 10 thousand GB's of full speed data but who knows.
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Lol, when I saw this on my bill, at first i thought it was 9.XXX GB and I was ready to flip my ****. I didn't realize until googling it and reading this post that it's actually 9,XXX.XX GB... I have never used that much data in my life.... even on Comcast business. I think we're good here.
Unlimited data interrupted by RST packets about once an hour?
Does anyone else here have their data stream interrupted regularly like clockwork getting a browser message back "The connection to the server was reset...?" It happens twice an hour, on the button for me. I heard that Tmo interrupts heavy users, but if it doesn't happen to any of you, it's got to be just me. The packets don't interrupt bitcomet, and I think they don't interrupt https, but DO interrupt http. It doesn't happen when I'm using SSH with a proxy, but that is slow, as it's a $1 proxy. Well..., anyone got an idea?
Incidentally, Tmo had a great discount for a small business plan going, it was $39 for 1000 anytime mins, unlimited txt/mms, and 5gb data (or it was 2gb and they grandfathered me 5gb). At the time it was going, a year ago, but worth checking now to see what prices are, they allowed a change for data from the 5gb to unlimited for only $5, so now I pay a few cents less than $50/mo for what I already described to you. It was as simple as paying $10 to the state registrar (your state may differ), and getting my business name, then applying online at irs.gov for an EIN (employer identification number) which was emailed to me immediately.
I took the business name certificate and EIN, along with proof of my address to Tmo, and they gave me the plan without any trouble, which surprised me, because it meant the cost of my service dropped.
Good luck.
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Does anyone else here have their data stream interrupted regularly like clockwork getting a browser message back "The connection to the server was reset...?" It happens twice an hour, on the button for me. I heard that Tmo interrupts heavy users, but if it doesn't happen to any of you, it's got to be just me. The packets don't interrupt bitcomet, and I think they don't interrupt https, but DO interrupt http. It doesn't happen when I'm using SSH with a proxy, but that is slow, as it's a $1 proxy. Well..., anyone got an idea?
Incidentally, Tmo had a great discount for a small business plan going, it was $39 for 1000 anytime mins, unlimited txt/mms, and 5gb data (or it was 2gb and they grandfathered me 5gb). At the time it was going, a year ago, but worth checking now to see what prices are, they allowed a change for data from the 5gb to unlimited for only $5, so now I pay a few cents less than $50/mo for what I already described to you. It was as simple as paying $10 to the state registrar (your state may differ), and getting my business name, then applying online at irs.gov for an EIN (employer identification number) which was emailed to me immediately.
I took the business name certificate and EIN, along with proof of my address to Tmo, and they gave me the plan without any trouble, which surprised me, because it meant the cost of my service dropped.
Good luck.
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Chris Pederick's User Agent Switcher seems to be helping. It's at mozilla add-ons, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/?src=search and at Chris' website, http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/.
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Here is my source: Washington Post Article
My understanding was that t-mobile already had unlimited data and throttled at 5GB. But according to this article they are matching AT&T with a 2GB throttle. Can any one confirm this?
When i was with them (last month) i used 10 gb. I was never throttled. So idk if thats true or not.
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This is only for that plan. others are still at 5gb, mine personally is truly unlimited as they don't even count my data, it is always at 0.
dude i hope thats not true! i'm calling tmo tonite! i was under the impression that at&t didnt throttle cuz they just cut you off at a certain point but they allowed you to pay for overages 1GB at a time. I'm down with that but i want to keep my limit at 5GB and pay for maybe 1 or 2GB's at most. i think i could be around there with normal use(6-7GB) I'm totally NOT down with a 2GB cap and paying for 4-5GB overages!
If you have an older plan and it says unlimited, than it's unlimited. You're plan would specifically say 2 or 5GB if there was a limit. The newer plans are all like that. Glad I got mine a year ago.
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If you have an older plan and it says unlimited, than it's unlimited. You're plan would specifically say 2 or 5GB if there was a limit. The newer plans are all like that. Glad I got mine a year ago.
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not true, tmobile pushes "unlimited" plans only. They dont mention the cap limit cuz they say technically you still get unlimited access to the web they just throttle your speed down. for example i'm on an "unlimited" plan but i get throttled at 5GB. even in my account app it says unlimited next to my data count but its not brother cuz i get throttled. gimme a min i'll post a screrenshot of it
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found this on TMOUS:
http://cache.blog.t-mobile.com/2011/04/13/t-mobile-introduces-new-79-99-unlimited-data-calling-and-texting-plan/infographic-3-12-2011/
it's for their new 79.99 unlimited plan. if you read the small print you will find that it's only good for 2G at full speed.
I will stay with my old plan.
Didn't they cancel one of their new plans right on launch day?
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not true, tmobile pushes "unlimited" plans only. They dont mention the cap limit cuz they say technically you still get unlimited access to the web they just throttle your speed down. for example i'm on an "unlimited" plan but i get throttled at 5GB. even in my account app it says unlimited next to my data count but its not brother cuz i get throttled. gimme a min i'll post a screrenshot of it
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See yours is showing a count. Mine, even on t-mobile.com, shows that but always says 0% (0 used). And that is on all three of my phones. it is rather odd that my account never keeps track of the data.
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If you have an older plan and it says unlimited, than it's unlimited. You're plan would specifically say 2 or 5GB if there was a limit. The newer plans are all like that. Glad I got mine a year ago.
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not entirely true...my grandfathered data plan is still called G1 data plan and I still receive the 5GB throttle since its introduction on oct 17 2010
brian_v3ntura said:
not entirely true...my grandfathered data plan is still called G1 data plan and I still receive the 5GB throttle since its introduction on oct 17 2010
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I don't have internet access at my house. I use my phone as a wifi hot spot for my laptop and my X Box. I have no idea how much data I'm actually using but it is many, many gigabytes, but I have yet to be throttled. I should also say I'm on a flexpay plan. Maybe that has something to do with it.
From the additional reading I did, this is for all new plans going forward, not existing plans. That is how it is worded NOW............. wait 6 months we will see if it actually stays that way or if it is just another misdirect from the company.
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See yours is showing a count. Mine, even on t-mobile.com, shows that but always says 0% (0 used). And that is on all three of my phones. it is rather odd that my account never keeps track of the data.
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I don't have internet access at my house. I use my phone as a wifi hot spot for my laptop and my X Box. I have no idea how much data I'm actually using but it is many, many gigabytes, but I have yet to be throttled. I should also say I'm on a flexpay plan. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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I use mine as hotspot as well...... I hate you both
I use adownloader for all my torrent downloads, its actually a nice app. But ran across a problem this morning when trying to download a 7gb file. I get a message stating android does not support downloads of files larger than 4 gb.... Is there a way around this limitation?????
it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
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it is a limitation of the fat32 sd card. Can't have files larger than 4gb. So the app is probably hardcoded to not let you download it. But I hope you aren't torrenting over LTE... that is the reason people like me are stuck with tiered plans.
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
What do you need a 7gb file on your phone for anyway. And as far as the data hog thing goes whether its the main reason or not it definitely doesn't help, and yeah what can your phone possibly do with a 7gb file, unless its a 5 hour movie you are abusing your data.
I've have unlimited data and I don't think using it anyway I want to is abuse. Sucks for you if you signed up for a tiered plan lol. But the amount of data I consume isn't what this thread was posted about...
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Not to be argumentative, but no it's not. Verizon's just greedy. They're still making money hand over fist from unlimited users.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
source: whitepages at signalresearch.com
voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Actually, it is. It costs roughly $5 to send a gig of data over wireless data networks when customer care, backhaul, electricity, etc are all taken into account. That means that anyone who uses over 7gb of data on their phone is costing the carrier money. That usually isn't an issue. Most people probably pay around $30 a month for data and use about a gig maybe two. So the carrier makes $25. But then there are the jerks who pull down 80gb/month on wireless ruins it for everyone because they cost the carrier $370.
source: whitepages at signalresearch.com
voice and texting are what the carrier makes money on. So if everyone switched to google voice and voip solutions therefore dropping to the lowest minute plans without texting, data costs would skyrocket.
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Got a link? Genuinely curious.
But let's do the math--the average user data/month is 435 megabytes. Using your 5 dollars/GB figure, which seems totally plausible, that means that on average Verizon is making ~27.50 in profit per user, whether they're capped at 2gb or unlimited.
This is based on AT&T's figures, but apparently their remaining unlimited data group comprises a 5% that uses more than 2gb a month. That means that 95% of their users are making AT LEAST 20 dollars in profit, if the demographics for Verizon comport with AT&T's, because they use less than 2GB. (30 dollars- 2GB x 5 dollars)
That means Verizon is making money absolutely hand over fist. The average of 435mb includes my mom's iphone, which uses maybe 5 MB a month, and that jerk for tethers 80gb. The 5mb a month crowd massively outweighs the 80gb a month crowd.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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I feel like people use either 0-4gb or like 50+gb. So if the average person uses 2GB, but someone else uses 50gb, it takes the "profit" from 11 2GB users to cancel him out.
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The average is 435 megabytes a month.
On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Actually I was wrong, it's a bit higher now:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249532/smartphone_data_shakeup_the_end_of_unlimited.html
According to The Nielsen Company, the average per-user data consumption by U.S. smartphone customers was 606.1MB -- or about 0.59GB -- per month in the third quarter of 2011 (the most recent period for which measurements were available).
So that's for all Americans who use smartphones.
The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
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The average data use doubled in one year too... wow. So average $22 in profit on someone who uses average. But for someone who uses 50, it still takes 10 people if you are counting $25 average spent on data. At verizon we pay 30, but people on att either pay $25 or $15 so it is probably close to $25 average.
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Yep. But remember, according to those figures only 1% of users use more than 4.5gb. It still takes 6 gigs of data for Verizon to take a loss on you. So we're already talking about a fraction of 1% that Verizon might be taking a loss on. Their pricing models are designed to maximize profit, but even with unlimited data and current usage patterns it'd be damn hard for them to lose money.
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On att right? You use more data on LTE doing the same things. I used to use 500mb/month on my 3G phone. Now I hit 2GB doing the same activities each month because I can consume way more web pages in the same amount of time. Att probably did that study on their 3G network
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Didn't at&t already come out and say that people are using double the data they were a year ago?
But I have to agree, if the storage can't handle that big of a file, maybe better to do it on a computer anyway.
Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of those with unlimited data.
Your argument would be like this. You buy a car that engine power can only do 45 MPH. I buy a car that can do 80 MPH. Speed limit on the highway is 80 MPH. Because you cannot do 80 MPH you think I should have to drive 45 MPH. I payed for something you didn't. It isn't my fault your on tiered data. It is the fact that the wireless industry in this country is broken.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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You are sorta correct. I really don't care about unlimited data. 4GB is plenty for me to never need wifi. And when I do need wifi, well, my sigpic you can see that that my school's ISP is plenty fast lol. To the point, your analogy is a bit off. It would be more like getting my amount of gas limited so I couldn't drive as fast. LTE phones are like fast cars... I have one, you have one, but since some of us have our gas limited we can't drive full speed all the time even if we are capable of doing so and want to.
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Ok ill agree with yours. Been up 32 hours so the old thinker is a little slow. Haha.
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I can see his point. As Verizon switches all devices over to LTE (they have said no more 3g smartphone) and the networks gets more congested, I expect them to start throttling the unlimited users.
There has already been talk of data plans becoming speed based instead of data limits the way wired internet plans are.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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I don't think the contract says anything about being able to cap 4g speeds for those of us with unlimited data. 3g yes because it is capped at 5 regardless. Mobile broadband cards contracts for LTE list a 5GB cap on unlimited. Cellphones contracts do not. If I remember correctly.
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no, but all mobile contracts have fair use policies that leave a lot of gray area. I think in the next 2 years after most everyone is on lte, the data landscape will look much different.
Shoot, I still remember waiting forever for skyfire to stream video to my moto q9c...
Unlimited data died 6/28/2012. Unlimited data was survived by many continuing users and a crappy pooled data replacement plan.
His name was unlimited data. His name was unlimited data.
And so on.
Amen.
My thoughts and prayers are extended to all who lost this loved one.
Unlimited was a good connection, and a good deal. He was...He was one of us. He was a connection who loved the outdoors, and data, and as a surfer explored the beaches of southern California from Redondo to Calabassos. And he was an avid bowler. And a good friend. He died -- he died as so many of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom you took him, Verizon. As you took so many bright flowering good deals, at Khe San and Lan Doc (voice rising) AND HILL 364! These good data deals gave their lives. And Unlimited too. Unlimited...who...who loved bowling. And so, Unlimited--Data--Plan, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your mortal remains to the bosom of the bandwidth pool, which you loved so well. Goodnight, sweet prince. ****, I'm sorry Dude. Awww, **** it Dude. Let's go bowling.
I'm going to pound my unlimited data as long as I can for all of you who've lost. That's the only consolation I have for you.
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I was never lucky enough to meet unlimited data for myself. A few of my friends have. From what I have heard unlimited data was wonderful and amazing. He was loved by many and will be missed by all.
I bumped into Unlimited Data this past December while purchasing my ReZound. Never thought I'd love U. D. more on Verizon than tmobile but surprise!
ReZound
I think in honor of Unlimited Data, I'm going to stream as much as I can on mine today...
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I'm going to pound my unlimited data as long and hard as I can for all of you who've lost. That's the only consolation I have for you.
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I thought the topic of this thread was pour one out not pound one out. LOL
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I thought the topic of this thread was pour one out not pound one out. LOL
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Can't say I didn't see that one coming.
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I'm glad it's gone. People who use over 10gb/month should not be paying $30.
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I'm glad it's gone. People who use over 10gb/month should not be paying $30.
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I think I might hate you for saying that... Even though I have unlimited data and never come close to even 4GB/mo, what you're saying is basically total blasphemy in my eyes.
Doesn't cost VZW any more for unlimited. They just found a cash cow to milk.
Look you should pay for what you use. The one size fits all monthly fee is stupid. If you use over 10GB/month that is not fair use. There is no way you need enough data to stream 100 hours of Netflix per month. I use 1-2 gb/month and I use my phone quite a bit. I think $5/GB would be fair.
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Look you should pay for what you use. The one size fits all monthly fee is stupid. If you use over 10GB/month that is not fair use. There is no way you need enough data to stream 100 hours of Netflix per month. I use 1-2 gb/month and I use my phone quite a bit. I think $5/GB would be fair.
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Maybe it shouldn't be $30/mo for unlimited, but there should be much larger data allotments for the price than they are offering. With my Cox cable at home, I get 300GB/[email protected]~30Mbps download for $60/mo. LTE is comparable in speed, and therefore could easily accumulate the same amount of data downloaded in a month.
The fact that Verizon advertises that you can watch Netflix HD over their LTE connection, but the reality that one movie will eat up almost half your monthly allotment in 2 hours, is where the problem comes in. They essentially advertise a usage model that is completely impossible given their bandwidth restrictions and pricing.
The entire world is moving towards cloud based services, consuming more and more data for what are becoming everyday activities. If Verizons data plans don't become cheaper and allow a more realistic bandwidth cap, then we're all going to get ****ed in the end.
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Look you should pay for what you use. The one size fits all monthly fee is stupid. If you use over 10GB/month that is not fair use. There is no way you need enough data to stream 100 hours of Netflix per month. I use 1-2 gb/month and I use my phone quite a bit. I think $5/GB would be fair.
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We know your opinion, and frankly it's Verizon's problem, not mine. If they have a problem with me watching an hour of Netflix a day at the gym, they shouldn't have sold me a phone with unlimited data, and sold me on mobile Netflix.
You're right, I don't need to. But I can, so I do. I don't know why you should be glad people are losing something they enjoy. That's childish and small.
I salute you oh unlimited... You were my never ending buffet for data... Burp lol
Funny, my plan still says Unlimited.
tekhna said:
We know your opinion, and frankly it's Verizon's problem, not mine. If they have a problem with me watching an hour of Netflix a day at the gym, they shouldn't have sold me a phone with unlimited data, and sold me on mobile Netflix.
You're right, I don't need to. But I can, so I do. I don't know why you should be glad people are losing something they enjoy. That's childish and small.
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If you want to watch an hour of Netflix every day, that is fine. Just pay more than the people who don't. $5/GB is fair. You can set Netflix to use 100mb/hour. So Netflix @$0.50/hour is fair. Your Netflix slows down my web browsing.
Verizon Unlimited was survived by his cousin Sprint unlimited whom we may still contact from time to time when we feel sorrow for our lost loved one, Verizon unlimited. :crying:
ON a less serious note, sprint does really still have true unlimited data. Not sure about all the details, i just know service sucks in my area and phone selection is decent but its no rezound
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Verizon Unlimited was survived by his cousin Sprint unlimited whom we may still contact from time to time when we feel sorrow for our lost loved one, Verizon unlimited. :crying:
ON a less serious note, sprint does really still have true unlimited data. Not sure about all the details, i just know service sucks in my area and phone selection is decent but its no rezound
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I would take the Evo 4G LTE over the Rezound any day of the week lol.
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Look you should pay for what you use. The one size fits all monthly fee is stupid. If you use over 10GB/month that is not fair use. There is no way you need enough data to stream 100 hours of Netflix per month. I use 1-2 gb/month and I use my phone quite a bit. I think $5/GB would be fair.
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I think that you should pay for 'peak data' like we pay for peak minutes.
During business hours and other times, maybe do a $5/GB, then pay whatever for unlimited otherwise.
At 3am, there isn't much additional cost for Verizon, with everything place, for me to use tons of bandwidth.
At 7pm, when everyone's home from work, streaming their pr0n, I get it. Make it 5am to 9pm limited, and 9pm > unlimited, for whatever price.
I'll deal with that.
Flat rate $5/GB with a 5GB a month minimum is the way to do it. So a smartphone will still cost $25/month if you use 0mb-5GB. Then $5/GB after that.
Things like Netflix and pandora are what are causing bandwidth problems and everyday use of these needs to stop. Of you have a long car ride one in a blue moon that you need that stuff for 5-10 hours no problem. But if you stream pandora every day that is bs. Buy your music and support the artist.
I just switched from 4gb to 10gb data for a few dollars more. They have a special going on for the 10gb. $100 +15 each line. Att rocks
I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
T-MO wins.
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I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
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Well here in hawaii ill walk into a safeway grocery store and i wont have even signal for calls... i mean none. Make a call and nothing. I gave tmobile up for att. I get 35mb/s and reception almost everywhere. Here att wins
digitard said:
I live in a Major metropolitan area.
I pay 70 bucks a month for T-Mobile which is comparable to ATT here (Phoenix area which is big for T-MO).
I get unlimited everything with no throttling. Last month I used about 10GB w/o a hiccup (I may have been going ROM crazy and bypassing all the WIFI restrictions on downloads since I was at work...lol). ROM - LOAD - TEST FOR 2 DAYS - WIPE - NEW ROM - LOAD - REPEAT
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Great. Nobody cares. He was talking about ATT. Relevance: People on ATT. Move on.
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Great. Nobody cares. He was talking about ATT. Relevance: People on ATT. Move on.
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Haha thanks man you post some news for att customers and somebody bombs it with another carrier.
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I just switched from 4gb to 10gb data for a few dollars more. They have a special going on for the 10gb. $100 +15 each line. Att rocks
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Yeah, I've been debating on moving to this plan since it rolled out. I currently have the unlimited data plan, 700 minutes to share between two phones with a rollover bank of about 7000 minutes since we rarely use more than a hundred combined, and unlimited texts and mms. I've been hesitant to switch because, while we are generally under 10 gigs, I sometimes get a little data crazy and we reach between 12-15 gigs combined. Do you know what they charge for overages per gig? Also, I assume that includes unlimited calls and texts? TIA for your reply
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Yeah, I've been debating on moving to this plan since it rolled out. I currently have the unlimited data plan, 700 minutes to share between two phones with a rollover bank of about 7000 minutes since we rarely use more than a hundred combined, and unlimited texts and mms. I've been hesitant to switch because, while we are generally under 10 gigs, I sometimes get a little data crazy and we reach between 12-15 gigs combined. Do you know what they charge for overages per gig? Also, I assume that includes unlimited calls and texts? TIA for your reply
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Overages is $15 a gb if you go over. If you let them know before you go over you can change your plan to higher data for $10 a gig more. Just go with the 10gb. That should be sufficient enough for 2 people. My wife and i have it we are on separate accounts. Just got it today and im happy that i dont have to worry about going over. Plus if you both are on the same contract you save a lot.
I just went from the 4gb plan on FAM share with 2 phones total. Went on the site to see what its about under my account and it showed my contract was 4gb for 150. It showed I could change to 10gb for 130. I definitely don't use near 10 unless I'm away from WiFi and still don't use near 10 but better to be on the safe side. I read all the fine print and hoopla and I saw nothing of extra charges or drawbacks. Took the 10gb and as I see so far a cheaper bill and more gigs. I see win win.
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Aw, I looked to see if I could upgrade my data plan on my ancient non-existent plan and nope. Ah well.
Eventually one of the newer plans might make more sense, but every time I've done the math in the past, it turns out to be more expensive.
This is the mobile share value plan. If you're out of contract or you have your own phone, you get the 15 dollar pricing instead of 40. Its nothing special tbh
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to me its worth it $130 phone bill for 10gb of data. and the data is crazy fast with att. ive measured a friends phone at work with speedtest and he hits 8mb/s on verizon,my old tmobile was at 7mb/s and with att ive hit 40mb/s. thats high speed data. ITS WORTH IT!!
my opinion.
well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
I only avg 20 GB a month or less. I pay $20 a month for udp
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well this isn't going to be good for some of us....
http://arstechnica.com/information-...mited-data-customers-who-use-over-100gbmonth/
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
agreed. I live out in the boonies, I am on 1x and sometimes 3g. my internet is only dsl at 2.5Mbps (3g speeds) ... so whenever I hit 4g on my phone, I do everything with it. so i sometimes rack up 70gb+ a month. especially when im at work ..teamviewer, netflix, streaming cameras setup at various locations, music is always going, showbox, kodi (tends to use a lot more data than other streaming apps)... the data rack up quick.
Has anyone actually reported receiving a letter yet ?
I use it as primary internet. Been paying for it for so long. Screw paying $60+ a month for cable that is the same speed but doesn't offer the same capabilities that cellular data does. I rack up over 100gb a month but it's a business account so i doubt they will cut me off.
The fcc does nothing about the internet monopoly in my area because it's not considered a monopoly because wireless internet is considered an option. When verizon charges what they do for internet it clearly isn't an option. We all know verizon can afford to give you more GB's at a lower price.
Most of the infrastructure is already in place and they are paying purely for maintenance at this point. And when they are talking about faster speeds with xlte and lte-a they are expecting you to use more data but have no plans on reducing the cost per gb. Faster speeds means a larger resource pool to tap into. The excuse that heavy udp users are decreasing the speeds for others is basically a thing of the past at this point.
Honestly it's all bs marketing and political manipulation. Tell me why countries in the EU can offer unlimited lte data for 35 euoros a month, which people use as their primary internet source, if this isn't the case?
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Agreed...there comes a point (about 100 GB a month) where it becomes an "unjust enrichment" for the end user....and this is why we cannot have nice things lol
I'm surprised Verizon didn't go the route of...well the unlimited data plan started in the days of 2G/3G only...so that's the only unlimited data you get...when you are on 2G/3G.
Maybe I shouldn't give them any ideas... :/
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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I don't really feel sorry for those who use 100+ GB/month. Those are the users that prompted the removal of the unlimited plans to start with. You can scream "unlimited is unlimited" if you want but its Verizon's sandbox and they make the rules.
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Ummm?? "UNLIMITED DATA" Do know what that means? Lol, prompted!!! $$$$
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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Dammmmmmmm, I got the letter today telling me as of February 17th I will be terminated unless I select a new plan since they're pulling my unlimited data.
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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More than 200gigs a month I suppose?
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Maybe on average.. Some months around 500 and others 100. Feb 17th I say "GOOD<--->BYE" to VZW (they terminate unless I select a plan) after 10 f*$#ing years... not too sure what I'm going to do yet but obviously I cannot afford to stay with VZW..
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And why R u saying at 100 gigs a month? Why this amount? Unjust? U r an idiot in perspective. Unjust =Hilary Clinton's Fuk'n National security (knowingly) and walking free. Unjust= people like me or in my "group" pay more in taxes than the "wealthy." UNJUST=VERIZON lying about the effects people such as myself have on "their" network I pay for by using what U stated over "100 gigs" monthly. OPEN UR EYE'S FRIENDS, $$MONEY$$ $$MILLIONS IN BONUSES$$ U should have Verizon show you this "negative" effect. Lol, in words and writing sure but 100% accurate proof including data analysis by 3rd party/partys not Affiliated whatsoever with Verizon does not/will never exhist cause its a story kinda like the Easter Bunny. Do you people not understand the technology that we are using and the capabilities at our hands? The 1% of customers with unlimited data is not something that would be an issue unless it was about money my friend. Do your research think about it come on, look what they're doing in Switzerland.
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You should send Verizon Customer Service this coherent, well thought out argument...I'm sure they will reconnect your UDP in no time....lol
Wait a second, I am currently experience a minor heart attack! They are CANCELING your UDP?!
I have not received a letter regarding this, is anyone else receiving this letter?
http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/09/verizon-unlimited-data-200gb-limit/
I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I average 12GB/month (which is NOT heavy use at all) and received my letter informing my UDP is being terminated as of Feb 16. I have complained to both of my local stores and the customer service call center to no avail. I was told that once the letter was sent my fate was sealed.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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I read online last night T-Mobile has been gaining twice as many new customers as Verizon since Verizon's been pulling their $*it.
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They will regret it, T-Mobiles service, at least here is so spotty its not even worth paying for. When my wife had it she had to use my wifi tethering just to use her phone half the time we went anywhere.
200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
I am sticking with my Verizon UDP for now, but i have also bought my wife a new phone on at&t's DirecTV unlimited plan that's up to 4 devices just incase verizon pulls out more bs. Figured id jump on that and get grandfathered on that also, since in my area at&t is second best if not identical to Verizon's coverage.
Sprint and T-Mobile are out if the question for me, been there done that.
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200gb a month is plenty, but the problem is the price of the new plans they want you on. Id never pay those rediculous prices.
But unlimited should be unlimited, i understand that too, but 500gb people... Come on now, that is a little excessive. I don't even come close to that downloading movies all day on my home cable network. So i can see where verizon is coming from. Fair usage.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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I agree with you on that one, 200GB/month is a bit excessive and almost abusive to the network load. But for those of us that use 12GB and end up getting our plans yanked from us is insulting. I know I purposefully sought out wifi wherever I could to keep unnecessary use of network resources to a minimum. This is the thanks I was given for my consideration.
To say I feel insulted is putting it lightly.
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Oh I feel insulted for you as well. 12GB is not that bad at all. I average 45gb and have not received a letter yet. This whole ordeal is ridiculous. I would rather they implement a cap on the unlimited, like say 100GB or even 40GB and then slow us way down instead of just straight up removing us.