Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
lazer9 said:
Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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Its the best choice for and upgrade out right now and it is unlockable via HTC dev unlock and if u get the first hboot.(.12 I believe) you can via lazy panda
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>Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Yes, it is. One of my good friends has a Droid X, so I used it quite a bit when he was rooting it, and I've seen him using it a lot. The Evo 3D is better than the Droid X, and this phone is leaps ahead of the Evo 3D. The screen on this phone is much, much better than the screen on the Droid X, resolution and quality-wise.
>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though.
>Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Do you mean as a Wi-Fi tether? Yes, it can. I believe there are even non-root solutions for that now. You can pay through Sprint to get it, or just use a third party app to do it.
>Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
A tip: Get a case. It doesn't have to be an Otterbox Stupid Huge 3000, but at least something that covers the phone a bit. I have this case and it's great. It doesn't add much bulk to the phone but it at least keeps it safe. I know that the Droid X is a tank of a phone that can withstand just about anything (I've seen my friend literally throw his phone at the floor and pick it up right afterwards with no problems), but this phone is a bit more delicate. You can go without a case if you want, but if you get the right case, you'll hardly even notice it.
My case is great because it helps me hold the phone. It's so thin and tall that it's a bit slippery in your hand. The case solves that problem.
Another tip, is to be prepared for a watered down multitasking experience if you keep your phone stock or run Sense ROMs. I've seen mentions of developers making progress on improving it, but HTC tweaked the multitasking on this phone to be very aggressive, which causes apps to close themselves after a while. If you plan to run AOSP ROMs then you won't have to worry about that, and I'm sure the devs will fix it on Sense ROMs soon enoug.
Thanks to both posters for the added info. Looking into the process and trying to get "hooked up" to somehow get the BS activation fees waived of $36 which a Buddy of mine was able to pull off, although he went with the I-phone (blah) and another thing he said in order to get the insurance on the phone, had to pay an up front fee of $100 which covers the I-phone for life. Is this how sprint handles insurance on the Android Evo or is there another option similiar to what I'm paying Verizon with the extra $6 a month for Assuron or whatever??
Thanks again for all the help!
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>..............>Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
If you get an EVO that hasn't been updated beyond the bootloader version 1.12, you can use LazyPanda to S-OFF it, giving you full control of the device. If the phone you get is running an updated bootloader (highly likely if you're purchasing it new), you will only be able to use the HTC Dev unlock method. This method will still allow you to flash ROMs, but you won't be able to flash radios. On top of that, if you want to flash a new kernel or a ROM that requires a different kernel (IE: Going from a Sense ROM to CM10 requires you to have an AOSP-based kernel) you'll have to use fastboot to flash it, or a program like Flash IMG GUI. If you don't do that, you won't be able to boot the phone after flashing the ROM.
If you're lucky and you can S-OFF your phone, you won't have to worry about that though...............
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Ok, Went for it and came home with the HTC EVO 4G LTE which I quickly rooted/S-Off'd / Unlocked with LazyPanda succesfully and installed TWRP. Restored all my apps with TIBU! YaY! :laugh:
Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was. Hell, I ran that BootManager or whatever it's called on it and had like 7 Roms installed at once so I'm really into this tweaking and modding scene and just need some more tips / pointers on where to proceed with it at this point.
I realize I've voided my warranty, I'm sure. Not really a concern. They talked me into that $11 per month no hassle replacement insurance bull**** with a deductible of course so I'm ready to rock n roll! :victory:
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............Need a recommendation for the best clean, battery quality, improvement over stock ROM out there so I can proceed into making this sucker as sweet as my Droid X once was..........
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Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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Flexs stock with goodies, viper 4g and meanrom are my recommendations.
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Thanks.
I did find and flash via TWRP the: Radio 1.12.11.0809 (Only) from Jewels.
Now I'm wondering if I need this file instead? ---> PJ75IMG_Jewel_firmware_2.13.651.1.zip from his site.
Any bearing on the above mentioned ROMS and the pros/cons on doing this.
On a side note: I'm at my workplace and although it shows in "Excellent" via the Sprint coverage map, I'm stuck on roaming....
Thanks for all your help!
Only if its the one that doesn't contain kernel, recovery or h-boot
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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The newest stock with goodies is amazing to say the lease the best multitasking Rom I've used of this phone
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Thanks! I currently had already went with the latest "meanrom" per other poster above. I did update all my kernal/radio ect... also as per discussion in the meanrom thread. All seems to be going well so far other than the dam "Roaming" triangle showing constantly at my workplace which is supposed to be dead center within and "Excellent" Sprint coverage area. Otherwise, I'm a little put out that I only get one bar in my home - I'm supposed to be on the fringe of a "Good" to "Fair" area as per the coverage map there. Time will tell. The rep did offer me something called AirAve that assists weak connections via my broadband cable internet connection as a possible option after 60 days of ****ty service if so required. I'm also signed up for their "Home Connect" as I didn't have a home # any longer and had just relied on my Verizon Wireless Droid X for all my calls. As my understanding this just adds $20 per month for the line charge with unlimited in/outbout calling AND gave me $100 off my EVO since I ended up with a total of 3 lines of service (add my girlfriend's LGE Rezound or whatever....)
Whew! This is getting to be quite the chore getting switched over. So far my impressions. Better phone in the EVO vs Droid X but ****tier / sporadic coverage. :silly:
Now that they have access to their 800mhz block they can kick up the vision roll out which is better for everyone
lazer9 said:
Looking for recommendations. What to expect, ect...
Been pleased with my Droid X and Verizon's coverage but unhappy with their new upgrade policy causing me to lose unlimited data, fees, ect...
I can also get a 23% Ford Dealership discount with Sprint.
Per their coverage maps, it doesn't appear like I would be losing much if any via at work or home.
So:
Is the EVO mentioned a decent upgrade over the Droid X?
Is the EVO unlockable? - I do see it is rootable and modable.
Can the EVO be setup to "Tether" my Android Tablet on occasion as I can with my Droid?
Any other tips or suggestions I should be aware of?
Thanks so much in advance for hopefully some encouraging and helpful responses in aiding to my decision to make the BIG switch from Verizon (been with them 10+ years) to Sprint! :fingers-crossed:
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I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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Im gonna go ahead and advertise my guide lol it has a description and explanation for a ton of stuff. Helps you get a good grasp. If there's something you want to know and its not there ask, it helps me to stay somewhat current
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I currently have the HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I use the internet like there is no tomorrow probably 10-20gb a week is there anyway to upgrade without losing unlimited cause I was gonna purchase the HTC phablet "dlx" in a couple months and I really would not like to lose my unlimited data or I might consider switching to sprint
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If you are talking about an option to upgrade and stay on Verizon Unlimited, the answer is no. The sole and main reason I left them.
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Yes, to om4: Please do post your guide right here in my thread if you would. I am very interested in any and all information regarding SPRINT and what to expect and what not to expect. I have 14 days to piss with this until I'm locked in as I'm told.
I have no idea what the 800mhz block is and if it would even make it to my area? I live in Western PA - Hermitage 16148 to be exact and work in New Castle PA, 16105 if that is helpful to anything and knowledge of the 800mhz block...
I've already been told that 4G is not even on the landscape (map) currently for any of my area.
The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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The 800mhz spectrum is what Verizon currently uses it provides better coverage. Sprint has 800mhz spectrum as well but its currently being used by nextel. Sprint has been preparing to make the switch to use the 800mhz spectrum for some time. It provides better signal penetration. My guide is in the thread named don't panic, it pertains to android rather then sprint lol
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Thanks since I have used up my 8 Thanks for the day I guess in my barking in the MeanRom thread... :silly:
I wonder when this rollout to the 800mhz will take place. The only thing my local rep mentioned was something about two new towers going up between 4 to 8 miles from my residence in the coming future.
I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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I think its part of the vision roll out but I'm not sure, another member posted instructions to force the lte to use the 800mhz spectrum and it worked for a few people but the majority who tried it got stuck roaming on Verizon
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Yikes! Was that reversable for those people and where are the instructions in case I get brave? :cyclops:
I wouldnt recommend it, it broke roaming for a lot of people and it took a bit of tinkering before someone found a fix. I dont remember what it was either. Something in build.prop
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Hi all,
I'll be eligible for an upgrade in a couple of weeks, and while my Eris running GSB has been great fun, I am ready for something that's faster, has more memory and a better screen. My wife has a DInc and I like it--excellent screen, a nice size--not too small, nor too large--and the browser is so much faster than on my Eris.
Therefore, I'm thinking about the DInc2, which adds in the ability to run a SIM when traveling outside the US as a nice perk. While Sense is attractive, I'll probly want to root it soon, both to de-bloat it and find a custom ROM that suits me.
So what current Vzw phones are you considering as a step-up after your Eris? Is 4g really valuable, if you're not streaming music or movies (I don't)? And does 4g suck battery and bandwidth (I'm hoping to keep my legacy unlimited data plan but don't know yet how that will work out). I'm not sure I like some of the newer humongous-sized phones, so a middle-sized device feels the best compromise.
Suggestions?
Thx in advance...
I will be getting the Galaxy Nexus once it is released
Either the Galaxy Nexus or Droid Razr perhaps unless Razr ships with locked bootloader.
I'm upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus in December, and I too am on a legacy unlimited plan. To the best of my knowledge we can upgrade to a 4G phone without loosing it, but I will probably have 4G off most of the time to save battery. I have wanted a Nexus on Verizon since the Nexis One and it is a huge upgrade over this phone (but I will always love my little Eris) so that is what I plan to get
As for the Droid Incredible 2, it would be a solid phone and nice upgrade, but you would be buying yesteryear's technology. But it would be better than no upgrade at all. Good Luck
P.S. Be sure to check out the dev community around any phone you are thinking about, the Nexus family usually has a large one but I don't know about the Droid Inc. 2
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Either the Galaxy Nexus or Droid Razr perhaps unless Razr ships with locked bootloader.
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It does
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/10/1...ons-droid-razr-will-have-a-locked-bootloader/
I'm down to the revolution, dx2, and the stratosphere.
Previously the fascinate but I've found other phones that are free.
I made a spreadsheet of my comparisons of free phones (either from BBY, TigerDirect or Wirefly)
I threw the charge in there just for comparison. I've seen it for $99
Galaxy s2. Screw verizon and their crappy phones.
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I'm about to "do this".
The info here specifically the spreadsheet is invaluable. Thanks!
Stratosphere here. I really don't want the slide-out but...the phone has everything else.
They better not take away my legacy unlimited plan
I let you know, I'm probably going through Wirefly!
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I love my Eris. But gave it to my daughter and upgraded to the Dinc2. I like the not too large footprint. Rooted easily. Great battery life. And a reasonable price.
I'll take some flames here and say the HTC Trophy 7:3
The Eris was the first and the last Android phone I will ever have. Only downside is the Trophy can't tether at this point, so I keep the Eris around only for tethering.
Down to one
Well this weekend I couldn't pass up the deal on the red DInc2. I upgraded my wife to one for free!! Soon we will have no Eris's in the house, I just need for the Galaxy Nexus to come out.
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Well this weekend I couldn't pass up the deal on the red DInc2. I upgraded my wife to one for free!! Soon we will have no Eris's in the house, I just need for the Galaxy Nexus to come out.
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I think I'm gonna go try to upgrade early, so I can get the nexus and finally have a non cracked screen
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REZOUND!
I went with the Rezound on launch day. I am so glad I got this phone. This thing is quick and has decent battery. I'm getting about 17-20 hours depending on my use(I have just 4g LTE turned on, with both LTE/CDMA it sucks the battery down. Just CDMA also allows better battery. You need the app LTE onoff to achieve just LTE on.). I know a lot of people say no because it doesn't have S-Off yet. The only reason I need S-Off is to permanently remove the bloatware. The phone has temp-root and you can freeze apps and it will stick on reboot. But honestly even with the bloatware this thing is fast and no memory problems!
The rezound sounds nice, but I went with the Tbolt a couple weeks ago. I got a good deal on it. I rooted it as soon as I got it, and so far I have had no problems out of it. With a custom rom running on it, I am getting better battery than my wife's stock dinc2 even with 4g turned on all the time. I think this is still a good phone to think about now that the price has come down.
Hey everyone, most of you will know me from the Evo 4G, I am the creator of Azrael X and Stock Turbo ROMS. I loved my Evo 4G and I loved developing ROMS for it. I was due for Upgrade in July of last year, just in time to get the Evo 3D. I was excited because of the Specs of the Evo 3D and traded "up" for my "amazing Evo 3D". To be honest, I wish I had held out for the Samsung GS-II or switched to Verizon now!
Here is the issues I have had with the Evo 3D.
My first one: I take good care of my phones, I think in all the time I had my Evo 4G I dropped it once and it was in a case so no damage. One day, I went to use my Evo 3D's camera to take a picture of something funny to send to my friends. Well, my phone became unresponsive and then my phone's display got corrupted. I tried all the troubleshooting steps, redid the phone ROM, hard reset, EVERYTHING. No dice and I heard that sometimes the camera gets disconnected and you can press real hard and it will work again. Ironically I did that and it worked once, the next day I went to use the camera and it did it again, froze the phone for a few minutes and corrupted the display. So I went to a Sprint service center and they "could not fix it, my replacement would be ordered and I can pick it up in a few days." So I get my replacement and...
I get a replacement with Hboot 1.50: Hboot 1.50 really sucks, that is all there is to it. HTC lets you root your phone...for a price! You void your warranty (not completely but it's more or less at the discretion of the Sprint employee if your covered by warranty or not if you bring it in for service with an issue) and it's not even a full root! You cannot flash kernels or radios without jumping through hoops and your phone is not S-Off. There is no current method to get S-Off with Hboot 1.50 and all attempts thus far have failed. Why could they have not just fixed my camera on my original one? This is livable with but has taken away the desire from me to develop ROMS for this phone. Then there is the....
Other issues with my replacement Evo 3D: The new one likes to restart itself randomly. It actually caused me to nearly late for work one morning because my carefully set alarm went off when it decided to restart itself. Thankfully I woke up by myself and was able to rush, get ready, and barely make it! I no longer rely on it as my alarm unless there is nothing else available. This NEVER happened with my Evo 4G, it reliably served as my alarm. Then there is...
CIQ: Sprint and HTC are spying on you; even a tinfoil hat will not prevent them from logging your phone usage. I mean, I am sure there are ways that all phones and carriers can do this, but where did I sign a form that allows them to monitor my usage? Not to mention this logging still eats up memory, CPU cycles, and battery. Even if they took this out now, not to mention developers found ways to rip out CIQ innards from the phone, this is a lameness that I cannot fathom. Then there is....
Sprint:
They removed the "Sprint Premier" program, which is really stupid. Now you have to wait 2 full years to get an upgraded phone.
The Network seems worse than ever. 4G coverage around the south suburbs of Chicago is bad at best, not there at worst. There are a couple of dead spots I always hit on the way home from work on 294.
Rude employees at Sprint. I ended up talking to a lady who kept interrupting me and laughed at me when I said something about that. I have never said, "F%$ you" to a lady on the phone until then. I actually said that and hung up, I was fuming! (UPDATE: Yes I know any company has good and bad reps and it's always a chance you will get one or the other, but she took the cake for the rudest CS rep I have dealt with from any company maybe ever. It was not just what she said, it was how she handled my questions. I should also mention she is a manager.)
Other things that I do not like about the Evo 3D.
The Speakerphone: Both Evo 3D phones I have had have mediocre speakers. The first one is way quieter and has NO bass compared to my former Evo 4G. Minor but noticeable.
The signal: This may have been "early teething" problems but my Evo 4G seemed to pull in signal much better than the Evo 3D. This could be because of premature radio and PRL updates at the time but I would be interested now to see how they compare. My Evo 4G would have 5 bars while the 3D would have 1-3 bars.
The charger port: The Evo 4G was nice because the charging port was right on the bottom of the phone. This made it easy to charge it while you mess with the phone and/or want to charge and talk at the same time. The Evo 3D has the charger port on the upper-left side. If you attempt to charge and talk, you are putting stress on your cable and the port itself. Stupid placement IMO.
Less tinker friendly: Besides the already mentioned Hboot 1.5 (partial root and partial warranty breaker) you cannot use the volume or power buttons while the cover is off. This is of course REALLY being nitpicky as there is not much need for it. But when you need access to the battery, having to take the back off every time is an extra step.
Of course, the Evo 3D is a better phone than the Evo 4G as far as hardware specs and screen quality. I just wish it was better in almost all ways instead of just specs.
The good of the Evo 3D is quite numerous of course.
The specs
The 3D features are neat
Increased memory
The screen slightly better quality
No more light bleeding like on the Evo 4G
Hboot 1.5 is a stupid means of control and I cannot believe we void our warranty for the sake of a half-ass root! I had aspirations for Azrael X 3D but honestly I feel the Evo 3D has some great ROMS already and Hboot 1.5 is a big deal breaker for me.
I might have to pass on HTC and Sprint too next time around.
More on the next post, but I want to know if anyone else has buyers (and/or Sprint) remorse lately. I am thinking of moving to "Big Red" network.
Luckily I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to be going through. I would recommend calling or stopping by sprint and have your replacement swapped out. Who knows you might get lucky and get one with 1.4, good luck man hope it works out.
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I would definitely push them to get you a replacement, it sounds like they gave you another defective one. If they give you a hard time about it showing "relocked" shoot me a PM and I may be able to help you out.
Man what's up. I remember your Roms and work for the EVO4G. Deff top notch.
Personally I don't have buyers remorse as mine has been great here no issues hardware wise.
As for the things you mentioned with sprint itself like the premier program...I'm with ya on that 100%. Hate it that they took that away. BUT according to the Sprint Advocates group that has conf calls with execs each month, Sprint has been researching a new loyalty program to replace it with to reward those of us again. Maybe the buy your upgrade back trial program is a slight form of it, though I know they have discussed more.
As for leaving sprint if you head to big red you pretty might end up with only getting Samsung phones as they have announced their stance on bootloaders and I wouldn't be shocked to see their future HTC phones not on the unlock list...
Personally i can't beat the price here and I really want to stick around with Sprint and see these NetworkVision deployments because network wise they will improve things 10 fold in many areas. The mere backhaul improvement being done at the towers is a giant leap in itself.
S4GRU.com has a ton of very very detailed info, a lot inside info too on this. Great site btw, any Sprint customer interested in the network and such I suggest heading over there and reading the enormous amount of detailed info they have, including some spectrum analysis...
Saw you mentioned Chicago specifically so I linked the two wall posts that discuss some info on that area specifically for ya.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...nd-lte-deployment-details-emerge-for-chicago/
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-schedule-details-for-sprints-chicago-market/
As far as the customer service, that's a shame man and you really can't defend them for that.
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Hey ric, I thought you disappeared! I used to love your 4g roms. That sucks you've had so many issues. Good to see you're alive though.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Hey, I'm in the Chicago area too and I know there can be dead spots and sprint is the slowest of the carriers it seems. Where I'm at though, service is incredible. The Crestwood area. But I can't venture out too far before I see speeds drop. Signal strength seems to stay strong everywhere I go though. And I don't even bother using 4G. I can get it at home but not much anywhere else. And with wifi at home, what's the point? But I'm still happy with the service.
The phone I love too. I dropped it a couple times while in a case, no damage. Phone doesn't reboot, everything is responsive, etc. Maybe your replacement has something wrong with it.
Now, I did see lots of problems on custom roms or kernels or both for some reason. I trust the developers know what they're doing and I'm not a developer so I don't know why there were so many issues then. I didn't try every rom or kernel, but the popular ones I did always restarted and froze on my phone. It was like clock work. So I've stuck to the stock setup with some mods on top of it and have 0 problems.
As for CIQ goes, sprint removed it in the latest update I believe. But I wouldn't put it past then if there's some other way they're tracking us. Since the removal of ciq, things perform world's better too.
I won't get too into their customer service but I have had some really friendly support and I've had some that clearly don't enjoy their job but weren't rude to me. It happens everywhere.
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Sucks that you are having so many issues, my 3d has been rock solid but sprints data in my home town is horrible. Stuck in a contract til mid 2013. Hoping to see some improvement by then with the upcoming lte. Although i dont see much about florida in their upcoming deployments. Think i read awhile back about Miami, but that was it. Best wishes to you and hope things improve for all of us with sprint issues.
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CIQ is indeed removed, since the January 13th update. Most phone manufacturers and Sprint are working with eachother to remove CIQ if it hasn't been already. Be glad you didn't go with Samsung, I've had so many with issues it's not funny. If you are mad about a camera issue on HTC, wait till you see what Samsung can give you. Late (if ever updates), radio issues, physical KB keypress skips, crashing camera, you name it (depending on the model). The SII is lambasted with problems galore, google it. It sucks that the HTC is locked down more, but IMO, it's not like a Samsung so it's not entirely necessary to root because the phone itself doesn't have major experience killing issues.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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i second this what the hell is going on nothing that was said was terrible.. explain ur reasoning >:O
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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Freedom of speech does not apply on a forum.
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH
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"Freedom of Speech" doesn't always comply with XDA forum policies.
You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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PM a mod if you have any gripes.
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You mind showing us the policy and how what was said went against the policy?
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I don't know what was said here but many of the rules here could be used to limit your speech and rightfully so. For example the rule 2.4...
Regardless PM the mod or a mod and ask, and you'll likely get an answer.
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I feel compelled to reply an I never post I have like 3 maybe IDk. Reading your post you sound very frustrated I get that been there but you are/were a custom rom developer?? How many cell carriers have you been with?
I was with Verizon for years they do not give a **** about any of their customers. They are more expensive for everything and they will nickel and dime you anyway they can. Verizon does not have blazing fast data 24/7 that covers every square inch of the USA.
They dropped sprint premiere, so what if you call sales they will upgrade you almost anytime you wanna buy a new phone an lock you down for two more years. Sprint buys back phones they always have some deal or incentive goin on. You buy a Verizon phone you aren't getting an upgrade for two yrs forget it.
Yea its not uncommon to talk to an idiot on the phone I myself as soon as I hear an accent not of the English language ask to speak someone else because I cannot understand them but you own a phone that they prob couldn't buy with their whole weeks paycheck.
I've had all the issues that you have with reboots freezes and whatnot no camera probs this is my 4th one. But hey they have replaced them with no hassle I've been offered other phones the photon for example which I passed on.
Idk what else you ask of them when they replace the defective product you can't justify getting mad at them for replacing a defective device with the lastest and least defective software.
THIS PHONE IS FAR SUPERIOR TO THE EVO4G which I had several of those I shattered the screen multiple times on all of them from dropping it. The speaker was a joke sure it was louder than the 3d until it blew the **** out. The 3D is sturdy and durable no problems from dropping not even a scratch on the screen I use no cases or protectors. Usb charging port is pathetic pos on EVO4g. 3D came out 1 year after 4G pretty dam good phone. There's nothing mind blowing that has come out since the 3D release I just don't get it. Were just now starting to see the next wave of technology that will soon outshine the phone.
Every other electronic device that you modify through software or hardware not provided by the OEM voids the warranty why does everyone feel cell phone manufactures/carriers shouldn't its just mind boggling. If you're fedup an rdy to tell sprint **** you kiss my ass it ain't always greener on the otherside even if its red.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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FREEDOM OF SPEECH . I demand a reason of the removal of my posts .
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I have no idea what you said but I am guessing your post was a typical "retaliation" thread against mine and maybe the mods removed it so this post does not become a back and forth. But 30 posts about how they removed your threads are taking THIS thread off subject, so please stick to the subject matter.
A lot of people reply to posts with counter arguments but many go overboard. Maybe you did and they removed it? I can only speculate....
Anyhow, you can disagree with me of course but keep it clean. I opened this post with MY feelings, if yours differ offer counter arguments but no need to be rude (not saying your reply was rude, but seems there was something up with it).
I added to my first post now with more information
Loved your roms on the 4G, basically the only reason I responded to this thread (usually stay away from xda now). Sorry about the problems you are having.
Hopefully you find a phone and a carrier that treats you as well as your last phone.
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I don't care about customer service, I have dealt with good and bad reps of ANY company I have ever dealt with.
Sprint has unlimited plans but their network is mark-ably worse then when I first started using it.
Verizon has much better signal everywhere. I have a Verizon Mifi device and when my Evo 3D or Sprint Wifi device (which I returned) could not connect at work at all I was getting decent 4G with Verizon! No connection vs connection with 4G. And we all know Verizon has a much faster 4G data rate.
There are pros and cons to every carrier. I have friends who have all carriers, I have tried all of them almost (AT&T, US Cellular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Cingular) and there is plus and minus to all of them. But your post has some good points as well. Thank you for your reply and I agree with a LOT of what you said.
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Hi Ric, I also loved your roms on the EVO 4G too. I also made the switch to red, not because of the EVO 3D. I loved the phone and it's a solid phone but I didn't have a 1.5 hboot either. I might have felt differently if I had one. I as you did got tired of watching my coverage get worse. I'm not that far from you and I was paying for 4G coverage and hardly getting it . Some may disagree but I felt my 4G was better when I had my OG EVO. I'm no longer under "unlimited" data but is sprint truly "unlimited" when there's threads about guys getting cancelled for using too much data when it's "unlimited"..Just my .02. I'm sure in true XDA fashion someone will say "good riddance" or "cool story bro" but I'm a forum veteran and have seen it all on forums of all types. If it helps with your choice I'm loving the 4GLTE coverage Ric.
Peace
My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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My wife has Virgin and she's sick and tired of her Samsung Intercept (what a shocker.) We want her to stick with a non contract provider, and it seems like most of the other carriers have sub par android offerings. The EVO V seems intriguing but I have 2 big concerns. 1. The phone is a year old. I know it had Good specs at the time and having ICS helps now but I want this phone to last more than a year. 2. I've read in some places that battery life is atrocious. Now my wife isn't a power user, but I also don't feel like hearing her complain constantly about the battery life. I'm leaning more toward this phone than the Milestone because I like the bumped specs and having a legit ICS is a big selling point. As far as a no contract Android goes, is this a good get or should I wait / keep shopping around or do others have some suggestions I may have overlooked?
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The battery life is about middle ground as far as Android high end phones. You can get a full day out of it if you need/want to. The phone, IMHO, still has plenty of life left in it. It fits great in your hands. And watching 3D videos on YouTube is awesome. I know people will say it is/was a gimmick, but I completely disagree. It is just an extra feature on a phone that sets it apart from the other ones. I think once the iPhone comes out with 3D, everyone will rush to get one and other phone makers will make it a standard feature on all phones. It was just ahead of its time on the Evo 3D. With hardly any other phones to share 3D images with, it makes it hard to show off how awesome 3D images and videos are without being next to someone and showing them on your phone.
I can understand people wanting to have the next generation of bigger and better phones, but just because a newer model is out doesn't make the Evo 3D magically stop working or cease to have a dual core processor with 1GB of RAM...which still runs every app and game, still makes phone calls, and send texts with ease.
This may or may not affect you, but could...the Evo 3D uses WiMAX and will that network will still be support for a few years in places where it is operational. Such as my little city. I have WiMAX and I use it as if my life depends on it. Sure, I could get the newest phone with LTE, but until Sprint gets it in my city, I'm stuck with 3G. And once you go 4G you can't go back.
I vote get the Evo 3D. And enjoy! I know I have enjoyed mine and will continue to...I am eligible for an upgrade, but I'm not sure I can do it yet because I love this phone and 4G data.
-Ken
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It's a great phone at $100 off craigslist if you are already on sprint or can flash it somehow for another carrier. To pay $300 for it would be an incredible waste of money. Sprints wimax is worthless if you are moving and only ok if you are not. If your house is right next to a wimax tower you might be ok. I thought it has been said it has a few problems out of the box with sprints\virgins version of ics so be ready to flash\root it right away to make it work better. A lot of work for a $300 phone. The 3d part is really just a gimmick, kind of a add-on for the kiddies. These are the realities of this phone.http://voices.yahoo.com/3d-devices-smartphones-causing-headaches-eye-8858717.html
I love my Evo 3D now with ICS, but I wouldn't buy a new one now. Phones get old fast, your best bet is to buy the latest and greatest and it may last 2 years.
Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
Everybody gets the latest and greatest because that's how manufactures control the market. I don't think any other phone for this price is even comparable.
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Those must be the magical unicorn Android phones...
I'm averaging 50% remaining charge after ~36 hours with everything enabled except 4G. You can get 2 days out of the EVO V easily with Harmonia 3 (a cleaned up stock ROM):
http://www.vmroms.com/index.php?topic=157.0
I can't report on stock battery performance because frankly I rooted and installed Harmonia 3 about an hour after I got the phone.
Of the smartphones I've owned (Palm Pre, EVO 4G, Optimus V, Optimus Slider) and used, the EVO V is by far the best all around. This phone with a no-contract Virgin plan is just about perfect (for me).
I suspect those reporting atrocious battery life are leaving 4G on.
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Buy it new for like $100 flash it to virgin. Its $300 cuz your not signing a contract. I'm running meanrom ics and I get days of medium use with absolutely no lag or issues.
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There is a LOT of issues with flashing it to Virgin, he'd be better off flashing to Boost but regardless of which carrier it would involve cloning the MEID/ESN of a donor phone and I wouldn't suggest it unless you know a lot about phones and have a backup in case it takes you a while. It is worth it though even at $300, the specs are just as comparable to today's phones and over the time she would have the phone a couple of years it would have paid for itself several times in comparison to getting it on contract at a subsidized price. I would DEFINITELY suggest it, the phone's specs as I said are comparable to phones coming out today (even higher specs than some new phones) and whether or not it remains supported it'll still remain a good phone for a time to come.
Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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Not to hate on HTC... but I would wait for new galaxy to drop in price. I think that is going to be the best phone out this year and honestly you will be good for atleast 2 years.
Battery is amazing if you are using a MEAN rom. Otherwise, so/so. Also... I would say the biggest concern is the crappy hardware. You are taking a chance at having a blown earpiece or failing digitizer. These are common issues and I suffer from BOTH.
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Esn has nothing to do with flashing it to another carrier... Just firmware and pri. I work for radioshack so I deal with this on a daily basis
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lol it does when the carrier doesn't allow flashing Work at radio shack? I've actually flashed phones so I know Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile blocks MEIDs/ESNs that are not in their database. It's not like flashing to Cricket or Metro PCS because of this fact. You could flash to Boost or Virgin without changing it but you won't be able to put it on your account Go to Virgin or Boost and just try and activate an account with an ESN/MEID not in their database, it won't work and customer service won't do it either lol (nor will they add it)
The only and I mean *only* way to get a non virgin or boost phone working on a virgin or boost account is by flashing and changing the ESN/MEID.
Also, I HAAAAATE when people say "I work for Radio Shack" or "I work for Best Buy Mobile" or "I work for geek squad" and use it to say (hey I'm an expert) not to diss on any of these (in fact I'm sure a lot of them are very good), but the vast majority of people I know at these jobs know very little and only know what's part of their official training etc. Again not all of them but pleeeaaassseee don't be so sure in something you obviously don't have experience in and giving a user HORRIBLE advise in which they will likely regret it if they try and follow it In fact you probably shouldn't give advice on a subject unless you've tried it (which you obviously haven't lol)
Re-post from Sprint forum:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/92028?tstart=0
How is it that the VM 3D already has ICS it but Sprint customers do not?
Is it just greed? You know people want to be running the latest and greatest so why not make them buy a new phone to do so.
You just want to sell a bunch of new LTE (Sprint Network Vision) phones w/ICS to poor saps who don't even know there is practically NO LTE network infrastructure in place! And I almost forgot they get the privilege of paying an extra $10.00 a month for the use of the practically non-existent network.
In the mean time you have customers that have been with you for many years getting ready to jump ship for business practices like this.
Just go to any Android forum and read some of the posts regarding Sprints EVO 3D & waiting for the ICS OTA. Your really ticking off your customers and from what I can tell you can ill-afford losing yet more of your customer base.
Release the update already, I know you have it! Don't ask how but I do.
My last post (Network & Coverage) was about not being able to make or receive any calls and having no data connection for over a week!
I know this will probably never get read by any Sprint employee with any clout but at least I got to vent to my fellow frustrated 3D owners.
Now excuse me while I go stand by the railing of this ship.
Do the right thing Sprint, push the EVO 3D ICS OTA!
Or you can just root your phone and pick from many many roms available. :thumbup:
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Many threads have been made about this along time ago. Just root and get on with your life
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Many threads have been made about this along time ago. Just root and get on with your life
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This doesn't help the people with VM firmware. A RUU should.
I just hope that the Sprint update is going to fix my VM firmware
Totally agree with the op. I've been rooted for a while now and i'm loving the leakeds ics roms. I'm just waiting for ota for my gf to see if she likes that or still wants to root it. I got sprint a few months before they released the 4g in my area. I loved my original evo but they really dropped the ball on 4g. I can get it less than 5 mins away from my house and its really fast. Almost 2 years later and they never bothered to expand it. Now they're promising 4g lte. I'll keep my evo 3d or take it and switch to another provider before I buy into their gimmick. It really seems kinda like a bait n switch marketing scam. We pay an extra $10 month for having the premium service and don't have crap for 4g. Think its time for a class action against sprint.
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Do the right thing Sprint, push the EVO 3D ICS OTA!
Or you can just root your phone and pick from many many roms available. :thumbup:
This doesn't help the people with VM firmware. A RUU should.
I just hope that the Sprint update is going to fix my VM firmware
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1. don't need it. there are plenty of sprintified ROMs for this device that work perfectly fine.
2. pretty much what you said
3. VM firmware isn't terrible, same company, same towers, same everything. it is a little buggy at times, though. and for the record, the only thing you need from the FW leak to run ICS (android 4, also Linux 3 <--moreso this) is the adsp image. that's it. adsp is what loads the kernel into the RAM space. the last OTA from them did not have an updated adsp image from the previous OTA... the vm firmware did... which is why it is able to boot. dont need radios, anything. PGIMG86.zip with new adsp, bam. done. device will run ICS.
4. it will.
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3. VM firmware isn't terrible, same company, same towers, same everything. it is a little buggy at times....
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I'm constantly losing 3G and signal, and reconnecting 3G is a nightmare. My phone will show 0 bars for -80dBm of signal (which if I remember correctly, is fairly good signal).
Getting kinda fed up with Sprint.
Sprint is a joke but that's nothing new though.. compare speed with other carriers you will see why its better to have LIMITED data then unreliable unlimited data.:fingers-crossed:
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Sprint is a joke but that's nothing new though.. compare speed with other carriers you will see why its better to have LIMITED data then unreliable unlimited data.:fingers-crossed:
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hahaha, never has more truth been spoken.
it is nice that its not capped tho big deal for those of us getting 4g on our 3d's
It's not unreliable and just get a prl that let's u get better service in your area but it is slower than others but not slug speed so be greatful u don't got a data barrier
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It's not unreliable and just get a prl that let's u get better service in your area but it is slower than others but not slug speed so be greatful u don't got a data barrier
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Agreed. I've never had a problem with data speeds, even when roaming.
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Tons of people sing the same song every os release. It hasn't changed before and it obviously won't change now. We know gsm gets it first except for north America of course. Then whenever our carriers decide we can have it we will get it. Sprint nexus s was no exception either. Now whatever the reason is that we don't get it right away we can only speculate. We all know that we will wait and wait longer. No need to post threads like this in every forum for every phone we may get after an updated os is released. It is what it is and I know it sucks. You can't honestly say you didn't know it was going to happen. It will happen with your next phone too. As well as the phone after that. Its just the way things go unfortunately. We should be thankful that we are getting it in the first place. So smile. There's people starving and getting killed. Waiting on an update should have been expected by now when dealing with Android in the US.
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Apparently some Devs are looking forward to the official release...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28096695&postcount=4859
Looks like August now...
Posted yesterday:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/community/sprintblogs/announcements/blog/2012/07/16/htc-evo-3d-and-htc-evo-design-customers-to-get-android-40-ice-cream-sandwich-update
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Or you can just root your phone and pick from many many roms available. :thumbup:
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Cool ICS! Might as well. I got so tired of waiting.
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Let me start off by saying I'm an EVO/HTC fan, and not an employee of HTC or Sprint...
After years of no 4g for Original EVO, 3D and now the LTE in a large city in South Florida, I finally get fed up enough to call HTC USA, because if I'm not getting 4g, I at least want to JB. After stopping several support individuals and managers from reading from their script, I finally got an answer that floored me. Do to the different processor and chipset in our phone, HTC has not even released a JB source to Sprint. While the agent was VERY careful to never use the word NEVER, he basically said they have no current plans to release JB for the dual core USA/Sprint model, which is why we were left off the upgrade list in the first place.
Other models of the One series have already received at least a prep download for JB. If Sprint doesn't at least have the initial download to prepare our phone for JB, it doesn't look too good for us.
I think Sprint and HTC have no intention to release JB to us, and we need to accept it. I hope I'm wrong, but it was the most info I have ever received from HTC.
Lucy, you have some splaning to do!
They find the MSM8960 different? The rep may have stopped reading his "script", but may have made up a new 1.
I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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I really hope you are right. Today was the first day I actually felt it wasn't going to happen.
I never thought Samsung would be better at pushing patches out to the public.
If it is true, my support with HTC will be finished. If Sprint can't get lte near Ft. Lauderdale by year's end, I might finally switch providers after 12 years. I've paid a premium to be an early adopter, phone-wise, and have never seen any type of 4g signal. Even worse, the 3g signal has become almost unusable. Unlimited crap is just that, a lot of crap. I'll be willing to bet, when 4g finally becomes the standard for sprint, it will be the end of unlimited.
I've stuck around because MeanRom makes my phone fly. Of course the data speed is out of his control.
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there currently is LTE coverage in the Lauderdale area according to Sensorly. The airport is covered in it, sections of I-95, Broadview Park. Just give it time, deployment isn't that quick.
I keep saying the Evo LTE is still a different product line to HTC and Sprint, no matter how many similarities there are with the HOX. From a project and product management perspective, each device will have it's own requirements, development schedule, deliverables, etc. Then each carrier adds another set of differences. We can never expect to have everything the HOX gets. The HOX and HOS are their global handsets, and we're off in our own little US/Sprint only/Dual core/LTE world. I'll be glad if we ever get a JB upgrade, but we better not hold our breaths because we're just going to turn purple.
This doesn't make any sense...
F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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F IT let's all go back to the HTC Hero for the Hell of it.
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I still got mine
So bc there is no leak you think they don't have a prep build they are working on?..... Come on use some logic bud, we are getting JB.
Locking this thread btw as xda is not a place to come and just have a complain fest like this will turn into, esp while there is a JB thread already.
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