ROEHSOFT RAM-EXPANDER (SWAP)
This app claim to add up to 4gb of virtual ram to your device have anyone try it? Does it work?
features:
- use free external SD card as RAM memory (RAM SWAP / SWAP MEMORY)
- RAM expansion up to 4 GB swapfile
- The usual performance losses occur when swap sd cards not from class-8
- Widget for PNP swap (swap on / swap off)
- Detailed information storage and analysis
- Autostart function
- Swappiness kernel parameter set
- Use simple child's play
(1 click optimization and automatic calculation)
- Support of all Android devices with Tung (root access and support Kernelswap)
googleplay link
Testing it right now, ill post back in a bit after I get a few games going and stuff
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Well, at $9 it ain't cheap. There is a free version to check for comatability, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.roehsoft.meminfo#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwiY29tLnJvZWhzb2Z0Lm1lbWluZm8iXQ.. Very interesting idea. But is it really needed? I never use all of my RAM and Android manages RAM very well.
Use caution ...
Now I have a swap file that won't delete from sd card ....and my device is running half speed after 2 reboot cycles ...
Still checking for hidden background process app running after uninstall ....
His English is so poor (no translation program ) that I never should have tested this POS....g
gregsarg said:
Use caution ...
Now I have a swap file that won't delete from sd card ....and my device is running half speed after 2 reboot cycles ...
Still checking for hidden background process app running after uninstall ....
His English is so poor (no translation program ) that I never should have tested this POS....g
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Not insulting your intelligence here as you may have done/tried this already, but in the file explorer you are using, you are granted root permissions as well as mounting the file system as writable when trying to delete this swap file correct?
The other thing to consider is that the read/write speeds of the actual RAM are much much much higher than the read/write speeds of the flash storage. So that's why you're experiencing super slow speeds Greg.
Like said above, android manages RAM very well to begin with, there is really no need for this.
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thair7391 said:
Not insulting your intelligence here as you may have done/tried this already, but in the file explorer you are using, you are granted root permissions as well as mounting the file system as writable when trying to delete this swap file correct?
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Yes......g
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welchertc said:
The other thing to consider is that the read/write speeds of the actual RAM are much much much higher than the read/write speeds of the flash storage. So that's why you're experiencing super slow speeds Greg.
Like said above, android manages RAM very well to begin with, there is really no need for this.
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Agreed....
I've managed to get the swap removed.......after removing root permissions from my entire SD card basically....
And Like you, i will not be using this app.....
It makes the phone operate at am amazingly slow speed.....g
thanks brother....g
I would avoid swap. I tested using swap on my device by adding a swap file manually(using terminal and swapon) and it worked at first. After leaving the device on for a while, though, I started getting long lag spikes.
LOL you actually spent 9 dollars on that greg? Must be nice to have money to throw away at crap.
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LOL you actually spent 9 dollars on that greg? Must be nice to have money to throw away at crap.
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No ....I used the free test version ...
An app would need to make my note walk on water before I'd drop $9.00 on it ....
I'm a cheap bast*** ....LOL .....g
Yeah, I just love paying money to kill my device.
All these VM apps do, is set aside some flash memory as a paging file, which over time all those repeated writes will result in the internal flash memory dying.
As the above said... using flash as swap is a terrible idea. The swap file is treated just like ram in that it gets a ton of random reads and writes. Flash memory has a limited lifespan as far as read/writes go and all you are doing is accelerating the destruction of the storage. Swap files were intended to be used on magnetic storage based hard drives that can handle the abuse.
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Theres an option to use your external sd. That's what Im doing, at 1080 mb it does show in the app that its using about 100mb for ram. Yes I know it can kill my memory. But I haven't had any issues yet, just my two cents. But prolly gonna take it off tho
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Why do we need extra ram anyways? I don't recall ram ever being an issue.
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I will try this one. I need more ram.
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sunny68 said:
I will try this one. I need more ram.
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Read about 5 posts back....
it's your call of course, but as mentioned......it's a device killer over time...(fact).....g
gregsarg said:
Read about 5 posts back....
it's your call of course, but as mentioned......it's a device killer over time...(fact).....g
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If you do this, partition off the end of your SD card and use that space. That way when the flash dies, you can simply not use that part of the SD card any longer.
Certainly don't do swap on the internal storage, ever.
khaytsus said:
If you do this, partition off the end of your SD card and use that space. That way when the flash dies, you can simply not use that part of the SD card any longer.
Certainly don't do swap on the internal storage, ever.
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Thank you ....but I won't be using this mod .....
The read/write speed to the external card is simply too slow.
The device lags badly for me .......do you see the lag issue ???
Maybe it's my device ....g
Anyone remember when RAM on PCs were a premium and virtual memory was a big deal? Virtual memory was horrible back then. There is no reason to think it would be a better idea now.
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Ahhhh, those were the days. lol
redeuxx said:
Anyone remember when RAM on PCs were a premium and virtual memory was a big deal? Virtual memory was horrible back then. There is no reason to think it would be a better idea now.
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I remember them...back on Windows 3.5 I think. Or maybe even before that. It was all the rage for a very short time. I was just happy to have a hard drive instead of a 5 1/4" floppy.
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Guys, i am having a one gb Ext 4 Partition on SD. Currently it has 800mb free. Can I use this space in emergency. As I am always living on the edge with my 8gb card. Its always about 98% full. So I always have to delete something to download something new. I think I can use this without harm via root explorer and I will try it. It might also be good for private stuff.
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Though the trick is working, it would be better for me to get a 16gb card. Or may be 32gb...
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lekhwani said:
Though the trick is working, it would be better for me to get a 16gb card. Or may be 32gb...
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32 gb may get you into some performance issue 16 gb is good enough
So since some of us have root would anyone like to share what was in the 3 gigs that we unrooted users can't get to?
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The OS LOL, I think is just advertising no ROM that i know of has 3 gb free
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Yes this is very misleading and shouldn't be allowed. They tell you 4gb and you only get 1gb. The photon advertised the same things 16gb internal and you only get to use 8.97gb. It's false advertising to me but it seems to be allowed since they are using it on the OS so that makes it ok. I was dissappointed by the low amount of internal memory when I switched to the Evo 3d. 1gb is a lot but it's still not enough if you are a appaholic.
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Yes this is very misleading and shouldn't be allowed. They tell you 4gb and you only get 1gb. The photon advertised the same things 16gb internal and you only get to use 8.97gb. It's false advertising to me but it seems to be allowed since they are using it on the OS so that makes it ok. I was dissappointed by the low amount of internal memory when I switched to the Evo 3d. 1gb is a lot but it's still not enough if you are a appaholic.
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Yup that's right , that's why I only got like 100 apps , sad thing I got more for my iPhone and iPad almost by tripple ha ha
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No different then a pc. It will say 500GB hard drive..windows will the 30 gig, then another 30 for the real size. So you start will 440 free.
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The android system and sense take up a whole 3 gigs?!?? That just seems outrageous.
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Not just sense. There is a partition that is a backup of sense. Remember when we were first temp-rooting? Any change we made got reverted on reboot. How do you think it did that? It copied over from the "backup sense" any changes that were made to the system or data partitions. That **** takes up space.
Is there a way to get that space,or are better off leaving it alone?
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Is there a way to get that space,or are better off leaving it alone?
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I hope theres a way we can get it back!. I wonder if we could use it to dual boot too
Since we now have root, can we Firerat the partitions like we did in the Hero?
well this is an easy fix if you have a large SD card.
i have my sd card partitioned out 2 extra gigabytes for data. makes up for the false advertising... which i totally agree, by the way, is utter bull****. they should tell you what you are getting in NET storage, not gross.
cobraboy85 said:
well this is an easy fix if you have a large SD card.
i have my sd card partitioned out 2 extra gigabytes for data. makes up for the false advertising... which i totally agree, by the way, is utter bull****. they should tell you what you are getting in NET storage, not gross.
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Yeah I've done the dt before.it would be cool to use the system ROM....
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I'm not that worries about app space bit I also don't put them on the SD I was just wondering if there is like 2 gigs sitting completely unused. I only say that because 3 gigabytes is gigantic for sense sense and android. Unless sense really is that big. I'm not rooted I was on my hero but I applied the ota too early.
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This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
You forgot 2 gb internal storage for apps..yes its not full 8 gb ..its 7 point something but it never is.
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It is the same reason for your hdd on your pc. The drive does have 8gb total but some of it is used up by the system's OS. Your usable space is actually 5.5gb with 1.3gb being used for apps. Any storafe medium does this. If you notoce on sd cards it may say 16gb but the user only has access to 14 gb
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-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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-sigh- because there really is 8gb of memory and they would be lying if they said 5gb. Think about it; all tech companies list the memory as the total amount of internal memory, not just available memory. If Samsung had a guilty conscience and said the galaxy player had 5gb, how could you compare to the iPod, that still said 8gb? There really is 8gb, but only 5gb available. Life tends to not be perfect.
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I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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I didnt understand why there is 2gb od system storage,why when i install an app the size storage is taken from the usb storage and the system storage?why do we need the system storage
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System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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DZonikg said:
System storage is for apps..some aps can be instaled on sd (usb) but you can move and them to system..be happy that SGP has a lot of system memory..i had phone with just 200mb of system memory and 8 gb card and that was nightmare.
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but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
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but what is the different if i have 2 GB of system storage and 5 GB of usb storage?i prefer that it will be 7 GB of storage that apps will be installed because right now when i install an app it takes place in the system storage and the usb storage i think that it just make things more complicated.
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Most apps can not be instaled on usb storage so you want be able to install them at all with out it ..also almost all aps have some librarys and they all go to system storage..also dalvic cache is on system storage..and every app that is on usb storage you can move it to system..just go to menage aplications in settings ..click on app and click on move to device
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caseyatbt said:
This makes me crazy. Why do they claim 8gb when there is not even 5gb usable? Be honest, say 5gb so we are able to gauge what we are getting. At least when you get an SD card almost all of it is there.
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Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
ZaIINN said:
Just buy a 64gb MicroSD and swap the internal with the external, then you'll have 64gb for apps to be installed on.
Simple fix.
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I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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DZonikg said:
I agree,i have done it with 32 gb.
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I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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I have 32gb too,how I do it?
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Modify your hold.fstab file in /system/etc
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with the internal SD being 16 gigs and 11 usable, how is it partioned? for example, those 5 gigs between 16 and 11 are set aside for system, rom, apps etc right? (it's probably like 3-4 gigs since it's not fully 16gb..)
i only ask because i can't figure out where my storage is going. i plugged into pc, and highlighed everything on my internal storage, and its only 6 gigs. i've got 3 gigs free it says, so that's 9 gigs. where are those last 2 gigs? i can't figure it out.
Yea it's kinda weird. Also have you noticed that in settings/apps/running it shows the ram at whatever you have left out of 1.5gb instead of it being out of 2gb just like the original dna specs were saying it was.
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It breaks down to 12gb for /data, 1.9gb for /system, 700mb for /cache, 10mb for radio_config, 17mb for recovery, 18mb for boot, 2mb for misc, 2mb for local, 50mb for radio, 100mb for reserve, 20mb for devlog, and the rest is for other partions. If you want to view how it breaks down, look at /proc/emmc and read the hex values. :good:
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Yea it's kinda weird. Also have you noticed that in settings/apps/running it shows the ram at whatever you have left out of 1.5gb instead of it being out of 2gb just like the original dna specs were saying it was.
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If I'm not mistaken, the GPU uses 512mb of ram.
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If I'm not mistaken, the GPU uses 512mb of ram.
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Yes, that's correct. :good:
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So it's 12 gigs of data? I'm still missing two gigs that I can't figure out where they are lol grr
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Initially this was a problem for me. It was either the DNA or the Note II. The fact is that we are moving to a cloud environment in all aspects of IT, even mobile phones.
All of my videos, television, music, and lectures are in the cloud. There is no real need for me to have a 64GB phone, or an SD slot. The idea is that we would migrate our multimedia fix to the cloud.. and our devices would become less expensive because of the lack of required storage.
To date, after 3 weeks of having the DNA... I haven't skipped a beat. All of my music is cloud based, my camera is linked to dropbox - automatically uploading pictures and video as I take them. And my movies and television are of course, online.
So how much storage do we really need then? And why is it then a real issue?
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Initially this was a problem for me. It was either the DNA or the Note II. The fact is that we are moving to a cloud environment in all aspects of IT, even mobile phones.
All of my videos, television, music, and lectures are in the cloud. There is no real need for me to have a 64GB phone, or an SD slot. The idea is that we would migrate our multimedia fix to the cloud.. and our devices would become less expensive because of the lack of required storage.
To date, after 3 weeks of having the DNA... I haven't skipped a beat. All of my music is cloud based, my camera is linked to dropbox - automatically uploading pictures and video as I take them. And my movies and television are of course, online.
So how much storage do we really need then? And why is it then a real issue?
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yea but you see. the cloud takes away the space limit but gives us the data limit..
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yea but you see. the cloud takes away the space limit but gives us the data limit..
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i mean, idc about that since i'm still unlimited and won't ever upgrade until they decide to take it from me.
however, i hate google music. the app is god awful, and it just defies all common sense. htc's built in music player is so much better.
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yea but you see. the cloud takes away the space limit but gives us the data limit..
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This is where we get screwed. Verizon and HTC want us to use cloud services...which use data. But then they want to cap it. This is why I will always carry a separate iPod from my phone...
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No joke, s#$t's ridiculous with only 11GB of usable storage....
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I think everyone with a small/capped storage should get unlimited data!
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I too would like an expandable memory, but at the end of they day if you REALLY need it you can always buy a USB memory card reader and plug it into the bottom of the phone, no?
What happened to WiFi then? There are millions of hotspots around the country. I use them as needed. My data usage hovers under a gig each month no matter where I go.
Why spend a premium on data plans when we have WiFi?
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Why spend a premium on data plans when we have WiFi?
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Speed.
trickster2369 said:
Speed.
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How slow is your wifi?
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How slow is your wifi?
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15mbs down
2-3mbs up.
But that's the limits of my hard line to my Wi-Fi in my house.
30-35 down
6-7 up
On 4g at my house.
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15mbs down
2-3mbs up.
But that's the limits of my hard line to my Wi-Fi in my house.
30-35 down
6-7 up
On 4g at my house.
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And that's exactly my point. I have 75MB down and 15MB up at home, OC3 at the office, and last I heard - 4G isn't as fast as that; it certainly isn't as fast as G.. Secondary to that, why waste money on a trumped up throttled and limited data plan when WiFi is readily available EVERYWHERE?
I dunno, I hear complaining where there doesn't need to be. And as far as I'm concerned, Mazel Tov to everyone who wants to waste their hard earned cash and pad VZW's wallet. (Not gonna be me though).
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And that's exactly my point. I have 75MB down and 15MB up at home, OC3 at the office, and last I heard - 4G isn't as fast as that; it certainly isn't as fast as G.. Secondary to that, why waste money on a trumped up throttled and limited data plan when WiFi is readily available EVERYWHERE?
I dunno, I hear complaining where there doesn't need to be. And as far as I'm concerned, Mazel Tov to everyone who wants to waste their hard earned cash and pad VZW's wallet. (Not gonna be me though).
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That's cool, I don't blame you a bit with Wi-Fi like that. I also have unlimited data, so it doesn't bother me at all to use data.
I was also answering a question that wasn't asked by you. And where was I complaining?
Since some of us are s-off, i think we can actually repartition our intertnal memory.
Gnex also had 16gb memory, but it had 13 gb memory for user. We could do with those additional 2 gb
Maybe some dev can look into that. My 2 cents.
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Ok im having this problem where apps 2 sd doesnt want to work for me.... check this image
But i do think huawei blocked move to sd feature.... so how do fix it new kernal?
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It's not a kernel thing. Your device has most likely has enough storage and ram to accommodate the rom, your stuff and storage for your apps. My device, GS3's and probably more really have no problem with this. My captivate on the other hand had such little ram and phone storage, the emmc chip was partitioned with 1.5gb of phone storage, 550 megs of rom storage and the rest USB(13gb or so) However moving apps also meant widgets wouldn't work. Hope this shines a little light on the situation.
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Ok im having this problem where apps 2 sd doesnt want to work for me.... check this image
But i do think huawei blocked move to sd feature.... so how do fix it new kernal?
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It's not a kernel thing. Your device has most likely has enough storage and ram to accommodate the rom, your stuff and storage for your apps. My device, GS3's and probably more really have no problem with this. My captivate on the other hand had such little ram and phone storage, the emmc chip was partitioned with 1.5gb of phone storage, 550 megs of rom storage and the rest USB(13gb or so) However moving apps also meant widgets wouldn't work. Hope this shines a little light on the situation.
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Ok so is there any way of fixing that because i have a empty 16gb and the tablet holds 8gb and has like 3 mount points for the one sd card
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I was checking out the s4 thread and they seem to use something called foldermount I haven't read that much on it but it might help you out. I also forgot my nexus doesn't have a external card like my captivate.
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Hi thanks for the help! Gonna root my device and find out if it work :fingers-crossed:
Glad to help. I'm still getting to learn my way around android as well.
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Im been around for four years or so bu still learning! And it didnt work so i guess i give up for now!
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