Now there is no official JB update for xperia mini pro.......
Sony posted this in their facebook page......
But if there is JB for other device I'll try to port it to our little devices.:laugh:
No way...!!
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Ok that may not be the right place to post but hey thath s really not cool they are still "brand new" phones... Maybe it s not the good translation but what about a petition for em to make a jb on our phones. You know everybody sign a paper or a mail or what and we all send em the same text ?
Whatever thanks to all devs they are doing all my phones and also some of my friends are even better !
Ps : there is a special call number for Xperia i will ask them what about jb on our phones. I m from france so some of you should also try on their country ?
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Just Sign on our petition on groubal so Sony Will Release they Camera libs and then our JB dev here on XDA can make the Jelly Bean Work perfectly on our phone
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Then Good Luck to you Allen Hu.
JB works just fine on the unofficial CM10 by FXP too... And the official CM10 would be coming soon
2011 series wasn't even sure on ics update (which, btw came out 3 months ago, not decades). The official statement that they wouldn't get jb update came out months ago.
Tbh I don't understand why people are so avid on updates, os improvement doesn't mean your phone will work better (especially if it isn't designed for certain technical specs).
As a matter of fact no ics rom performs, lasts as much as gb ones, just the same way a pentium I 133 with 10gig hd can't run win7....
So maybe it's just me, but i really don't get what the fuss is about, not to reach the point of a petition at least.
Sony as of Q4 2011 sold 32,597,500 units (only smartphones, this does not include ps3, sony music etc). A good developer here on xda reaches on average 5 to 6.000 thanks for a modded rom, assuming there are many ungreatful people out there let's double it, that's still 10.000 times short than the market share....why would they care?
Whatever the case is, if an official version doesn't come out someone will port it and there still will be enough to play around with until our phones will eventually be replaced by newer ones
I like but ................
Rudjgaard said:
2011 series wasn't even sure on ics update (which, btw came out 3 months ago, not decades). The official statement that they wouldn't get jb update came out months ago.
Tbh I don't understand why people are so avid on updates, os improvement doesn't mean your phone will work better (especially if it isn't designed for certain technical specs).
As a matter of fact no ics rom performs, lasts as much as gb ones, just the same way a pentium I 133 with 10gig hd can't run win7....
So maybe it's just me, but i really don't get what the fuss is about, not to reach the point of a petition at least.
Sony as of Q4 2011 sold 32,597,500 units (only smartphones, this does not include ps3, sony music etc). A good developer here on xda reaches on average 5 to 6.000 thanks for a modded rom, assuming there are many ungreatful people out there let's double it, that's still 10.000 times short than the market share....why would they care?
Whatever the case is, if an official version doesn't come out someone will port it and there still will be enough to play around with until our phones will eventually be replaced by newer ones
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I respect your thinking but if the device is capable of running the software then why the company is not developing the update if no update then they should give at least the Pure Android OS Software without their customization or any thing extra with all the drivers and kernel. or they may supply the appropriate drivers for the other developers like FXP to support their devices unofficially in the background.
The x mini pro is capable to runing JB ? U must be kiding
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Rudjgaard said:
2011 series wasn't even sure on ics update (which, btw came out 3 months ago, not decades). The official statement that they wouldn't get jb update came out months ago.
Tbh I don't understand why people are so avid on updates, os improvement doesn't mean your phone will work better (especially if it isn't designed for certain technical specs)
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+1. Either stop whining or get a life guys(and a new phone too!)
It's all their marketing trick.. if they give jb update to 2011 devices, they think that people will not go for the new devices, instead they will go for 2011 devices with less price and comparable hardware..
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does our sga is capeble of getting the android 4.0 ice cream sadwich update or we have to be happy with gingerbred only???????????
Just wait for cm8.
We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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I believe it has the chance of getting ICS but definetly not from Samsung. SGA has a very large amount of users and skillful developers who could make it happen.
We may have to be patient though.. Even Nexus S, which has the official support from Google, hasn't even recieved the upgrade yet. CMIIW.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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They won't be pushing ICS to Nexus S when Prime hasn't even been out and ICS unveiled in Hong Kong on Wednesday.
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Yeah.. Lame old marketing tactics lol.
By the way, I've seen some leaked videos of Prime and S running ICS and from there I could understand that even S wont have the exact same version of ICS the Prime will have... Well at least for the GUI.
Have a look at this.
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We'd be the last family of devices to get ICS TBH if ever
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couldnt agree more
If I had to choose I'd rather have a completely stable and optimized Gingerbread instead of an ICS. Stable meaning every feature working the way it should, like my wifi actually reconnecting after sleep.
The main advantages on ICS are:
1) dual core support and hardware accelerating
2) New UI.
Because neither of those are relevant to Galaxy Ace, I'm fine with Gingerbread.
But XDA developers are really fast and they will port ICS even if Samsung wouldn't.
but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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but i have heard taht the update will be for 1 yr old devices i think galaxy ace is 1 yr old only...so we can get
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Yeah maybe for some high-end devices that is..
And really, I wouldnt expect much from Samsung in the term of firmware updates.
Maybe we could just put our hope on a new ICS-based CM instead
google announced that it will be available for the first 18 months for existing phones...
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im hoping it would come to our devices.
Yup there's a new agreement for companies to provide software updates till the 1 year or so is up. We're probably getting it but of course they will prioritize.
New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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New version of OS is one of marketing tricks to lure people into buying new phones, I'm quite sure that we won't see ICS stock from Samsung, but nevermind, we have great developers, so just wait for CM 8 an' see
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It'd really be pointless though. ICS is a much more optimised version of HC which should bring full SMP support through software, something that has gone begging for quite a while to take advantage of phones like the S2. Maybe they are adding GPU rendering as well. Another useless perk for the Ace as the GPU is ****.
Also, why bother porting ICS to ARMv6? It's a complete waste of resources when it's almost likely to provide little to no benefit.
My opinion at least. Don't get your hopes up for ICS/ICS-based CM8.
I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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I know (SGA even don't have flash) but at least they'll take some interface tweaks and eyecandies
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Best we may see is a theme.
And what about some battery improvements in ICS? Maybe the phone won 't go faster but battery life could be higher. Or am i wrong?
Don't sound so negative guys, IV seen some old android phones running a ported gingerbread so anything is possible, never underestimate what the power of coding and patience can do
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I thought we could create a thread dedicated to the upcoming new android version regarding the Xperia mini/mini pro and Ray.
Maybe here we could gather information about release dates, user interface thoughts and ideas, features etc.
Sounds like a good idea?
Peace
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I somehow think that Sony might pull a "We believe our stock 2.3 rom is the best ever. We see no reason to update" like they did with their older phones, and save it for their 2012 range.
Yeah possible, but then again they have stated that all the 2011 models will get ICS, and hopefully they have learned from the disaster with the X10.
But after spending some time searching the forums I'm starting to think that your scenario is pretty possible, sadly...
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Yes, I think the same My second phone is x10 mini pro and SE end support his on Android 2.1. Reason? Thats the best for this hardware. Now I have alternative rom an android 2.3.7 and it work faster like stock rom 2.1 Thanks for devalopers from xda.
hopefully
if they dont release it for 2011 xperias , hopefully the epic cool devs here will, as a custom rom
i'm an x8 user and they had me stuck on 2.1 and if they ever do this again to me ( i plan to get the xperia mini pro ), idk then next time i'm buying a phone i will consider that SE is invisible and have no existence in planet earth anymore lol , regardless of what so ever "super cool" looking handsets they might have available at the time......
if you like Android 4.0 theme, you can use
ICS Launcher
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.SyndicateApps.ICSv2
it's free app
I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I guess they put out a statement on it, pretty vague. But Engadget interprets as SE confirming ICS
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/20/sony-ericsson-bringing-ice-cream-sandwich-to-xperia-handsets/
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I'm quite confident that it will come, eventually. Don't hold your breath on when exactly that will be, though I'm sure CM will beat them to it.
SE firmwares are somewhat backward compared to firmwares provided by samsung or htc in their devices. (eg. No smart dialing in my mini pro). And the timescape UI lacks many features (I don't need five home screens, but can't change it). I hope they will improve such minor details in forthcoming updates.
Any word yet on a solid release date for ICS on the Xperia S?
UPDATED ICS FAQ!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26376219&postcount=998
(updated 22 may)
To avoid 1500 threads being created around this same thing I have created this thread as the official ICS discussion thread for the Xperia S.
I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
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They don't say that ICS release will be end March early April ?
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Yea, I read that as well. In fact, I read it on that Playstation news app last night
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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i 2nd that.
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We'll just have to hope that they work hard optimising it.. I prefer a delayed optimised ICS than a crappy worthless update
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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
I'm not sure we have to wait all that much longer...
They said it can be end of March/early April, I would assume they would try and release it around then, or at least that beta you speak of. I don't think Sony wants to adopt SE's update reputation, so I would hope they would release it around when they said they will release it.
Jelly Bean is in the works, sure, but it's all down to rumors at the moment to when it will be actually released. If we are one update behind for awhile, I don't really care as long as it's optimized for the phone, and not some half-baked, rushed OS port.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/android-5-release-date-jelly-bean_n_1306952.html
I will say that coming from a Nexus S which was running CM9 (ICS), the interface Sony has put on top of Gingerbread does a great job. I thought I'd hate taking the step back but other than a few little bits, it's not that big of a difference. Things like the themed progress bars and buttons really remove some of the ugliness that GB still had.
Don't get me wrong, I am VERY excited about ICS on this device but I don't miss ICS as much as I thought I would. I can certainly hold on for a few weeks.
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I totally get what you say, but you don't want to wait for ages to put an outdated but optimized OS on your phone? I hope for some BETA tester ROM release from Sony on Xperia S forum as well.
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For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
PandaVoyageur said:
For the general public, beta roms with problems can cause much more damage reputation-wise (aka "this phone sucks, it crashes all the time lol").
Also, I like how Asus has pushed fast ICS releases for the Transformer, but it does not yet have the stability of the previous HC version. Picking up your tablet/phone for a 3 minutes read and seeing it reboot spontaneously is not that great
So I prefer Sony to be a bit late and get a good ICS release at the first try. And when it comes to the Arc/Arc S, we will know the XPS version will be close
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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
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What I would be suggesting is for them to work harder to hit the market at a right time with fully optimized upgrade. If they don't want loss of customer like what they did back in X10 time, they need to still work faster and base on 2011 model upgrade and what we saw, they are on a right track.
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How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
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I dont really understand Sony's policy about software , you're creating a new phone which relaesed in feb 2012 and the most current software is ice cream sandwich and the phone comes with gingerbread , it sounds like you creating a high end notebook and it comes with vista ,
you sucks Sony , believe me I'm telling this just buying Xperia S a few hours ago .
even though u sucks , u dont destroy my feelings about sony
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Here's your choice.
1.Be the first that has ICS.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
Razje said:
Here's your choice.
2.Wait 2 more months and get a fully optimised ICS, totally optimised for your phone. That probably runs better than a HTC or Samsung on ICS with the same specs.
btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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I agree
Alien987 said:
How many brands have upgraded their lineup to ICS so far "at a right time and fully optimized"? If Sony delivers an upgrade before end of Q2 they're still in a comparable time with other brands unless all the others suddenly deliver it in the following 1-2 months, because so far only Samsung (that is the biggest Android manufacturer at the moment) is barely pointing to an imminent SGS2 upgrade (based on rumors, not even officially yet).
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Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
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btw ICS isn't a super drastic update or something, you're acting like it's the difference between Window 3.11 and Windows 7.
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It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
Well, thanks for all the comments up there ^^^.
I did the ICS upgrade that ZD did in arc board and have it on my arc and it was based on Vanilla ICS. I got the best battery and performance I have ever got on any android phone (owned 4 so far)
Second, optimization with Sony won't be there ever. While I agree there are lots of work with custom UI and setting and adding extra stuff that Sony does't with their on-top of OS thing, but if you pay attention, the OS on Xperia S 2.3.7 that should be optimized, its not even close to being optimized. Battery is like hell, I got rid of all the junk apps (bascially everything) and have nothing to run live, plus battery of this phone is bigger that arc (yes, screen is larger as well) but still not close even to arc.
I like to be optimist about this situation, but I was more hoping for a Beta version so maybe our beloved developers could make something out of it.
You guys don't worry, I won't be waiting for Sony to release its optimized ICS since I really don't care about the UI.
I hope I didn't go over board since we are all here to have fun.
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Htc have already released ics for their sensation phones, also alot of manufacturers would have phones released next month with ics onboard.
I'm not buying the Xperia S until the ics update comes out, it just doesn't feel right to spend $600+ aud on a high end phone that comes with a 1.5 yrs old os that my current phone is running. If ics doesn't come out by april. I'm buying a new phone from the other manufacturers which does have ics.
It is (probably more like xp to windows 7), just hw acceleration and support for the google chrome browser is reason enough for the upgrade.
ICS is the only reason I am upgrading from my n1
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You mean the Sensation ICS update officially released only in a couple of countries with bugs as idiot as links not opening in the browser?
If your priority is having ICS and Jelly Bean when released ASAP your only real option is a Nexus Galaxy. As of today Android is still a train wreck when it comes to OEM updates...
you people should look at SGSII forums.People are complaining about the rushed ICS official update.
Hey, I just found out that Sony wont provide us with a Jellybean update:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
This is really bad, because they promised 18 months of updates, and thats one of the main reasons why I did buy this phone, so no more Sony phones for me after this phone.
Sad
hate sony!:banghead:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
seriously?
They said they would support us at least 18/24 months not up to
Guess custom ones will have to do.
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hate sony!:banghead:
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1+ on that, Im talking to sony now about exchanging my phone
They lied on us !
Bad brand...
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I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
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I found it not surprising for Sony doing that. They're late to the game now even for flagship devices.
Most of consumers not even want the update or know about it, only us screaming and crying is not enough force. And most of consumers will screaming and crying with update broke their device so rom need to be bug free to release, it cost a lot sop they dont bother.
I personal think Sony should have 'for experimental testing only' rom release without any warranty when they can not release the official one, I'm sure it take much less effort and can satisfy the community at good-enough level.
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+1
not expect Xperia 2011 to 4.1 but still disappointed with sony
Yes it sucks... no official JB for all 2011 devices
will xs get JB?
It's a flagship one.
Sony Mobile has this morning confirmed that Android 4.1 Jelly Bean for its new Xperia devices (Xperia T, Xperia TX and Xperia V) will start to receive the update from the middle of Q1 2013. Sony Xperia devices that launched earlier this year including the Xperia S, Xperia acro S, Xperia ion, Xperia P, Xperia go and Xperia J will be upgraded to Android 4.1 in “due course”. Looks like Xperia miro, Xperia tipo, Xperia tipo dual, Xperia sola and Xperia U users are excluded.
We suspect that the JB launch for the other 2012 Xperia models could take as long as early Q2 2013, given that no concrete information has been given. It’s hard not to commend Sony Mobile for updating many of its mid-range handsets along with their higher-end models. However, Xperia sola and Xperia U owners will rightfully be arguing why they won’t be seeing the update. It’s certainly not a question of hardware specification.
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Dont hold your breath.
dreezz said:
i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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Well, the problem is that unlocked bootloader is an obligatory requirement for using JB custom ROMs. The point of expecting official JB from SONY is because devs. could get official drivers too, so they could cook ROMs for locked and unlocked bootloaders... Or at least that's what I think. There are some people who just can't or don't want to unlock the bootloader, one of them is me.
The reason why I bought a Ray is because I'm (somehow) a SONY fan. In fact, I was going to buy Neo but in the SONY store in my city they didn't have it in stock anymore, so I liked Ray and I got it. Their handsets are beautiful and reliable on their performance. A friend of mine has a Galaxy Ace and that phone is terrible, he has problems with his modem in his house, the phone doesn't connect to it (my Ray does without problems). Plus, no ICS ROMS for it. My business partner has a Samsung Galaxy SII and that piece of s**t is busted, it shows that is charging battery when the phone isn't even plugged! And it doesn't last more than 5 hours...
SONY (and SE) phones have never gave me that kind of problems. But yeah, it's really lame not getting JB, I guess SONY devs weren't smart enough to make project butter to work fine in 2011 line, or it's because all the damn bloatware they want to push affected the performance at the point the phone was a total slowpoke.Or, it's a lame strategy, getting ride of your current device to get a 2012, or even a 2013 one. Whatever is the reason, this is a bad new and a low move from SONY.
Personally, I was going to get Xperia V, but with the rumored prototypes (Odin and Yuga) I'd rather to wait, my Ray still has so much to give and when I get a new phone I want to feel I'm getting a real big upgrade.
Or I dunno, maybe the next Nexus isn't from Samsung anymore... I'd give it a chance
Doesn't matter.... its like we are sticking with a 1ghz phone for a long time since there a cheap dual core phones out there... so I guess its okay and who cares about jb on a 3.3 inch phone
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i don't see the problem... why not use the JB custom roms?
I love PAC
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The problem is that custom rom cookers don't have the latest libs for the HDMI and camera, for example, so they can't get them to work properly or at all. And while Sony has released all the libs for the Xperia S to the custom community, they won't do that for the Xperia 2011 line. So, no official nor unofficial solution for getting a 100% usable JB, though the handsets are fully capable of running it even better than ICS.
It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
sony must see thread [WIP][ROM][JB 4.1.2][Pa+Aokp+Cm] P.A.C All in 1 ROM !!!!!! Jellybean alpha, its 992 replies and 142.577 views, it's shows how love customers like they device
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It's no possible for devs export it from XS?
I think XS will have jellybean or not?
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Nop: the Xperia S has a different hardware.
"Sony Xperia Tipo dual has surpassed our sales expectation and is a big hit for us, we want to make it even better with the new Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update in about a month's time."
What the **ck is sony. Another slap in the faces of our beloved xperia 2011
Source: JB for xperia tipo
Lol!! I think sony forgot that they released some previous phones too! Huh! Tipo getting jb!!! Our phones still doesn't have a stable ics stock update and tipo which has far lower hardware than our phones in nearly every aspect is getting a jb. :banghead: The next update sony will provide us is when keylimepie is introduced, then we will get another ics update with hell lots of bugs and new baseband!
EDIT: btw slapping phones might have hurt sony
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amnher said:
"Sony Xperia Tipo dual has surpassed our sales expectation and is a big hit for us, we want to make it even better with the new Android 4.1 Jelly Bean update in about a month's time."
What the **ck is sony. Another slap in the faces of our beloved xperia 2011
Source: JB for xperia tipo
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Is this for real? Any official news from Sony's site?
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What the.. :what:
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I wouldn't doubt it.
Sony is pushing our phones down the trash can and there's nothing we can do except for boycotting their brand and relying on 3rd party developers to keep our phones up to date.
Even the ICS update was painfully half-assed. The most ironic move: the Live With Walkman didnt even get the Walkman player on ICS.
WHAT THE HELL!!
It's just a rumor guys...
And a company has its market strategies...
Sony split up from Ericsson... And has started from base after then...
You simply can't expect them to update old phones to the latest of Android... When they got a complete new brand chain to concentrate at...
Though they should have updated Arc and ArcS (being high end phones)
But updating JB to entry level droids isn't beneficial for them. Our phones are entry level smartphones for a reason.
PREDATOR95 ->->->->a.k.a. ->-> predatOr
If the "slipt-up" from Ericsson frees Sony from any responsability, then why did they even bother to upgrade the 2011 handsets (except for xplay) to ICS? One point down.
So this is their strategy, their modus operandi, and they won't be changing anytime soon huh? Then why would we, as consumers, support their crappy way of treating their own customers?
I, for one, am willing to boycott Sony for this. I expected better value for my money. It's not like there are no alternatives in the market.
And yes, it's a rumor, but a very plausible one, considering the XJ already got it's piece of cake. All we got left to do is thank sony for spitting on us.
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If the "slipt-up" from Ericsson frees Sony from any responsability, then why did they even bother to upgrade the 2011 handsets (except for xplay) to ICS? One point down.
So this is their strategy, their modus operandi, and they won't be changing anytime soon huh? Then why would we, as consumers, support their crappy way of treating their own customers?
I, for one, am willing to boycott Sony for this. I expected better value for my money. It's not like there are no alternatives in the market.
And yes, it's a rumor, but a very plausible one, considering the XJ already got it's piece of cake. All we got left to do is thank sony for spitting on us.
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That's upon you... If you like them or not as a consumer...
Sony never promised of updating 2011 with JB
Value for money you say... In 11K (rupees) ... The price range of Xperia mdpi aren't you getting value for money...
1Ghz chipset, HD camera, BE, and all other awesome stuff
And on top of it you want JB... there's no end to man's greed
Tell me any other smartphone in the range which has such great specifications...
Which other company provided JB update in entry level droids...?
You want superb hardware along with regular stable software updates like the Nexus,
Here's an advice... Spend some bucks...
Not releasing JB for Arc/ArcS is unjustified and cruel...
But for Xperia mdpi... Its just asking too much...
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Oh wow, now I'm the bad guy, the greedy, the unsatisfied spoiled brat.
Think about it, dude, the Arc S has the exact same chipset as it's MDPI siblings. Upgrading the Arc S and not the little ones would be worse IMO.
Also, please stop dissing our MDPI Xperias, we're not less deserving than anyone.
Thank you.
Look at what happened to the xperia 2012 flagship? Delayed update, sounds familiar
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hahah that's silly, tipo with 800mhz processor want to run in jb.
compare it to xperia 2011 which mostly got 1Ghz, that's will be more awesomer than that tipo. Tipo doesn't deserve to get the jb update!
Hey guys come on,cool down!! We will get JB. There's Cyanogenmod and lots of good brains here to port great features and all to MDPI. Who needs Sony JB man? I bet (and I wish 4m my heart) that those JB updates for 2012 devices may hav bugs too,like we hav in stock ics. All those bloatwares and all..admit it,even if we had got jb,we wud hav modded,unlockd and get bored of it at certain point. We hav CM ..which is gonna giv us a stable update soon as we see 4m their progress. MIUI v5 has also been ported to Xperia Play..so we can even xpect that smday. There r lots of flavors for us guys.. Ofcourse it'd b great to hav sony jb as base or mayb the media apps..but let's accept, it'd hav bugs. So, thank you Sony for only one thing, the awesome devices of us. And for the upgrades and updates, it's ok..we don't care.
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@pixelado
I think we got great value for money on the hardware itself. I don't see the specs on any 2011 phones for this much money. And our dev section is fully packed, so I don't care much about the jb update. Only downside is those with locked bootloader can't enjoy it.
But still considering that tipo has lower spec than ours, I think tipo getting jb and us not getting it is unfair( I am not complaining though).
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But still considering that tipo has lower spec than ours, I think tipo getting jb and us not getting it is unfair( I am not complaining though).
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Xperia E has poor hardware specs but yet its launched directly on JB.
Time plays major factor guys...
And Tipo isn't getting JB... its just a fake Rumor nothing else.
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It's not always about processor/gpu .
At the most basic level tipo is "superior" to us.
The 2011 lineup is more similar to the nexus one (yaffs2+ kernel 2.6.x ).Our phones are equipped with raw nand flash.
The 2012 lineup is more similar to nexus S and GNexus (ext4 + kernel 3.0.x).they have emmc based nand flash which allows hardware wear levelling.
Mostly gb was introduced with nexus s and the android archi was modified with it (with assumptions that future Android devices will ship with emmc with hw wear levelling )...android OS upgrades is updated/designed w.r.t to the newest nexus devices .
So technically we are three generations down .
Plus Sony is running two update cycles already ....one for gb and one for ics....
Plus 90 % don't care which OS is running as long as it is running
Xperia 2011 devices may be the only raw nand based device who have the official ICS update...
If operating system is a must
Get a nexus.
Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
If anything, complain to Google for not providing ics/jb/kernel 3.x to nexus one...might have been easier to work for Sony devs
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@pixelado
I think we got great value for money on the hardware itself. I don't see the specs on any 2011 phones for this much money. And our dev section is fully packed, so I don't care much about the jb update. Only downside is those with locked bootloader can't enjoy it.
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Well, I do care. An offical JB release would finally bring us what's missing from FXPs CM10: new 3.x kernel and new camera drivers/blobs. Remember how FXP's CM9 improved when the official ICS came out? Now imagine that happening to CM10. I'm not saying it's bad, but it could be much better.
I should know, I run CM10 as a daily driver on my XMP.
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Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
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I've always wanted to hear this from Sony itself: they sold us old, non-future-proof hardware and got away with it.
I agree with mnishamk to some extent. Yes, we did get quite a bang for the buck, but now I'm starting to seel sorry for those who bought the "flagships" back in the day (Arc S, Play, and the like).
Thanks for shedding some light on this though, it's always good to know
Come on.Just the same reactions all over again.I remember when I used to have an X8 people were mad about not getting official ICS.Now its the same with 2011 xPERIAs and JB.If Sony's update policy isn't clear to you by now I don't think it's their problem.As for CM10 I still think it's great but nowhere near the stock ICS firmware as far as bugs and everyday stability is concerned.
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I've always wanted to hear this from Sony itself: they sold us old, non-future-proof hardware and got away with it.
I agree with mnishamk to some extent. Yes, we did get quite a bang for the buck, but now I'm starting to seel sorry for those who bought the "flagships" back in the day (Arc S, Play, and the like).
Thanks for shedding some light on this though, it's always good to know
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I doubt they got away with it.
I think xperia 2011 was a brilliant move by Sony !
Let's take a look at facts periodically.
November 2010 nexus S was released with gb
People were sad that it didn't ship with a card slot .
Sony must be deciding at the chipset
Android 3.0 was a tablet os so it wasn't taken in consideration.
Gb ran smoothly on nexus one and dual core proc. was an overkill .
They must have decided to keep hw as similar to the nexi so they can upgrade smoothly.
Nexus one was better option since it had sd card support.
So they kept one chipset for all phones and focused on other features like camera,design and others ...
In april they released the lineup and it was best bang for buck for mid end .
Latest os ,good camera,awesome music,good design and so on..
In november google trolled n1 users (and xperia 2011 users) by cutting them of the upgrade cycle...
Here is where sony got hit...they had to release the ics update to prevent backlash from high end users even if it was not feasible.
Since the chipset is same ,we got update likewise...
And sony earned a lot of brownie points
Now here is the funny part ..
Samsung galaxy S is similar to nexus s yet they didn't provide with the ICS update
The xperia are one generation down similar to nexus one and yet we received the ics update which is overkill
Sony just got trolled by google :rofl:
I bet we would have got kernel 3.x if n1 had ics update but sadly it isn't so.
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Tell me any other smartphone in the range which has such great specifications...
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Any huawei?
pixelshuck said:
Any huawei?
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Huawei comparison with Sony...
You can get specs in Micromax too then buddy... But these companies don't stand alongside Sony.
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karandpr said:
Xperia 2011 devices may be the only raw nand based device who have the official ICS update...
If operating system is a must
Get a nexus.
Its not a "slap" or whatever . Its reality. Its not feasible economically and technically to spend resources on a 2 year old lineup with hardware constraints of a three year old hardware .
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Thanks for summing up what I have been trying to say all along.
Perfect explanation. :thumbup:
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