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Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
When I was on the same boat as you 2 days ago, I have to admit it was the toughest choice I have done in a LONG time.
As it stands your looking at this:
Galaxy Nexus Verizon
-Unlocked Bootloader bust that **** open and destroy it with mods
-Nexus phone, quicker to get updates
-Good battery life. Nothing compared to the Maxx though. But check out the battery life on the 4.0.4 leaked update, it's AWESOME.
Droid Razr Maxx
-Great battery life
-No ICS
-Locked bootloader
-To me it's a Nexus with a crazy battery & motoblur skin.
Now, IF the Razr Maxx gets ICS and an unlocked bootloader it will be: Everything pretty much equal except for these:
Great dev modding community, Nexus updates, good battery life vs. Maxx battery (best battery), great dev modding community
There, I put it in a nutshell for you.
I had the Maxx and returned and decided to return it because I didn't need all the battery it supplied and I can adjust the battery on my Nexus to fit my needs perfectly and spare. Lastly, I don't risk Moto not unlocking the bootloader, but ICS it will definitetly get. It would hurt Moto way too much to not give ICS to the Razr Maxx it's tied for the best phones on the market now the other being the GNex. My personal opinion though ICS won't matter since it's not gonna really look AOSP, Motoblur isn't ugly but it's not the nicest when AOSP ICS is on the GNex.
So it's up to you, can you have some patience with the Nexus and adjust it's battery till you get it right to your usage and make it last 18-20 hours? (More with ext. battery)? I'm in that process now. And not risk Moto not making a fully moddable phone? Take your pick, both are excellent choices. WHATEVER you do if you go GNex don't give up on the battery it's really easy to make it last without limiting yourself to 5% brightness and 2G signal. Just have to pinpoint everything and what's the problem.
Lastly, most and all radio/battery problems are easily fixed (if you have them on stock) by not even rooting. Just unlock bootloader and flash 4.0.4. Best update ever.
**I did not consider Camera and other features because both are just fine for a PHONE camera.***
Good Luck.
It all depends on what your requirements are. Personally, I'm on my phone nonstop all, so anything less than enormous battery won't work for me. Plus I have a prejudice against Samsung phones in general.
Worth noting that the Nexus doesn't have a micro SD slot (although it's NAND flash memory is very fast), and the Razr Maxx's battery is not replaceable (according to Motorola -- I've heard from some VZW reps that it can be done).
Either way, it's a gamble.
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Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Adauth said:
Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Same here. Got a Nexus demo at work for 2 weeks and did not fall in love with it. I hear 4.0.4 fixes battery but twice it went from 80% to 0% overnight doing nothing but 2 email accounts. Also, the Nexus just felt strange in my hand (I have large hands). I did not like where the power button was because i hold it in my left hand to read email and my index finger kept pressing the button and blanking the screen. The Droid Razr Maxx is in similar place but my index finger ends up well below the button when holding. The Maxx feels more secure in my hand and not like it's going to fall out like with the Nexus.
I rooted and did ROMS on all my previous phones (OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible) and enjoyed doing away with BLUR on my Motorola's but I'm sure I will do the same with the MAXX. I did like the idea of having the NExus with all the latest updates and development but the Samsung phone just didn't seem as well put together as the Maxx.
My speed tests showed the Maxx faster on WIFI and 4G. The 4G fringe areas work much better after the latest update (this past week), and I was having some issues with the Nexus getting 3G network in some light areas and not with the MAXX.
had the nexus for a week. returned it.
Not sure why anyone would want an AOSP phone. It's like having generic frosted flakes.
Battery life is not an issue for me so even though i knew about the maxx, i got the razr. The nexus is just awkward, buggy and just plain. you NEED a custom rom if you get the nexus.
I prefer the HTC sense UI's over anything else. If HTC would just make a thinner, better looking phone, i would jump all over that. You gotta see a ROM with HTC 3.6 and ICS. it will blow you away. I gave my kid the Sensation XL and loaded this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
The greatest ROM i've ever seen. If you want a UI that will just make you smile everytime you use the phone, this is it. But for the RAZR, i'll take motoblur over AOSP anytime.
I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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For the same reason that there are tons of launchers, widgets, etcc on the market. Because AOSP means, As Obviously Super Plain as possible. Just kidding of course, but AOSP really is out of the box google. It's meant to offend no one, not step on apple toes (like samsung), and not dazzle anybody. It really reminds me of APPLE iOS.
call someone you know on both phones and ask them which sounds better. then call a voicemail with both phones and listen to playback and listen to the difference in how you sound. if everyone did this Samsung couldn't sell a single phone.
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Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
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You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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The 5MP cam on the Nexus is an Absolut deal breaker for me. If it wasn’t for that, if the Nexus had an 8MP cam, it would be a fairly hard choice. But i use my phone cam like crazy so it completely ruled the Nexus out for me.
Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
So what kind of future will a Maxx have if I buy one?
I love the things I can do with my Thunderbolt, but want the battery. Will ROM's be as diverse as my TB? I love the CM7 ROM's I have. I am just unclear as to what the bootloader will stop me from doing in the future.
Is it possible that CM9 could eventually work on it?
Are there any ROM's that have the hotspot enabled without the carrier option?
Sorry for newb questions. Just want to make sure I dont buy a phone I hate.
iolinux333 said:
Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
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Having had both, didn't notice any difference
jiwengang said:
You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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I also own both phones! I have the Razr Maxx because for work I need to have good call and sound quality and the Razr is awesome in both areas but for the inner geek I have the Nexus which can't be beat for Dev support and updates and pure fun but the sound quality is poor on calls and speaker phone. I have also had many calls where the person I am talking to can no longer hear me.
My advice! Get both!
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I had the RAZR for 2 months now.
One thing I don't like about it, is the display. The colors looks beautiful, but the text doesn't play nice with my eyes. I've heard it's because Motorola uses Pentil display. Other than the display the phone is great, with solid and premium build quality.
Get the Maxx. I got the Nexus when it came out, and I have had nothing but disappointment from it. I really wanted to love it. I wanted to have a *true* google phone... but they just skimped out too much on the hardware.
The cell antenna in it downright blows. It's unusable at my house, where the Maxx works just fine (other people with Verizon phones in my house also work fine).
The camera on the Nexus also blows. It's fine outside, or in really really well lit rooms during the day, but don't even bother trying to take pictures in any kind of low light, they just look terrible. I don't care about megapixels, but I do care about whether or not the pictures look like junk.
The battery on the Nexus blows (seeing a pattern here?). It lasts 12 hours, with very minimal use. It's aggravating to have to run and drop it on the charger as soon as I get home.
There's no SD slot on the Nexus... which didn't matter to me, but some people care. You can still copy files on and off it from windows, and 32 gigs is a lot of space for most people.
The only good thing about the Nexus is the screen, which is admittedly awesome. The Maxx's screen looks pretty good though, even side by side with the Maxx. And don't let the dimensions of the screens fool you, they're very very close in usable size - the Nexus loses a bunch of pixels for its on-screen buttons, which seem to only disappear when watching videos. The height of the screens are just about the same, the Nexus is just slightly wider.
ICS is also SO much better than gingerbread... but if you're here, you can install a ROM and do just fine with the Maxx.
Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Had the Droid charge too. After the lousy development, went to the Nexus Galaxy to get the A++ development. It was there, but too much plain ol AOSP for my liking. Saw a co-worker with the razr and instantly loved the blur and exchanged my phone. The 7mm thiness of the phone is just aluring to me. i love handling such a light and thin phone. The little bump on the top backside also helps to give it an angle when i lay it down. Its like the designers thought of everything.
Hi.
I have a Droid incredible since 1st week of Feb 2011. No problems and I like it ok. Is like to get a new phone but have couple questions. Is really appreciate some help please. So here goes.
1: What is the ppi on my incredible, first one, 3.7".
2: What is ppi on Razr maxx
3. What is the story with maxx bootloader locked? How does that affect roms and rooting?
4. Is razr maxx much of an upgrade over my HTC Droid incredible.
5: How is razr maxx radio signal strength? I tried Galaxy Nexus which said 3g more then 4G at my home and even lost connection a few times. HTC Rezound had good mostly 4G at my home.
6: What does the modding community look like for razr maxx?
Thanks a lot.
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Just by looking at the specs of each you can get an idea of the difference.
http://smartphones.findthebest.com/compare/8-161/HTC-DROID-Incredible-vs-Motorola-DROID-RAZR
Just looking at the basic specs you can see the razr has
4g lte
dual core
better battery
better screen
more memory
ability to tether
As far as signal all depends on where you live. On my Charge I got better reception in my house compared to the Razr. Several factors can contribute to your signal. Being a locked boot loader can limit some of the things done but still
can get by and do some decent things. As far as Roms go as I stated in another thread you could always use the stock rooted Rom and depending on what you want do some things yourself.
The specs on findthebest were wrong in many cases. And only a smart rating of 41? Come on. The Maxx is the most awesome phone out there.
1. PPI - don't know. Let google be your friend.
2. PPI on Razr - once again let google be your friend.
3. As for the bootloader being locked you can still root your Razr Maxx (which I did) but you can't install custom ROMs. With it rooted you can still freeze or uninstall useless apps using Titanium Backup and a few other customizations but that's about it.
4. Differences - 4G LTE. Wow! Hold on to your socks if you're in an LTE coverage area. Blazing fast. And great building penetration. Just rocks. Battery - The Maxx's battery last all day and then some. I streamed 4 hours of Pandora, made a couple of hours worth of phone calls, surfed for about an hour, and customized the ADW launcher for 20 minutes. After being on battery for 19 hours I still had 50% left!
5. The signal strength is great. The sound clarity is one I've never seen in a cell phone. The microphone has great noise cancelling as well. The wifi radio isn't the best I've seen though. Granted my router is in the worst possible place but I've gotten better reception on my old HTC Evo 3D than on the Maxx. But not enough to make me ding the phone even a half star in a review.
6. You can flash custom ROMs if you do the Bootloader Safestrap thing. I'm pretty happy with my phone the way it is so I don't think I need to do any sort of ROM flashing until something great happens with ROMs.
What attracted me the most to the Maxx was the battery. In the store they have them so tied down it is almost impossible to really use the phone as you would in real life. I was scared I wouldn't like it or the VZ coverage as I was coming from Sprint and was comfortable with both my Evo 3D and the coverage. But I haven't regretted getting the Maxx one bit. I have no problem with the pentile display that so many online reviewers are complaining about. The screen is awesome.
should be able to install custom rom.. but not able to install custom kernel.. correct me if i wrong
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should be able to install custom rom.. but not able to install custom kernel.. correct me if i wrong
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Coming from the HTC Thunderbolt, I have had the Maxx for a week and no regrets. I flashed my Tbolt a hundred times, yes total flashaholic, and doubt I will flash the Maxx since it is awesome. That's bull but you get my point. Battery takes some getting used to since I still think I need chargers everywhere and with the maxx you don't. Totally worth it.
1: What is the ppi on my incredible, first one, 3.7".
252 PPI
2: What is ppi on Razr maxx
256 PPI
3. What is the story with maxx bootloader locked? How does that affect roms and rooting?
Yes the bootloader is locked, but the phone is rooted. What this means is you are able to fully flash new ROM's, but are not able to flash new kernels, radios, and splash screens.
4. Is razr maxx much of an upgrade over my HTC Droid incredible.
dINC vs MAXX
- 512MB vs 1024MB of RAM
- very slow GPU vs fast GPU
- single core 1GHz and older generation snapdragon vs dual core 1.2 newer generation snapdragon
- 3.7" screen vs 4.3" screen (it's not bulky and can fit in jean pockets fine)
- 1300 mAh vs 3300 mAh (with combination of more battery efficient processor, and screen, it lasts much longer)
- 8GB internal vs 16GB internal
- TV out (eww) vs HDMI out
- 720p max recording vs 1080p max recording
- no front camera vs front camera
- 2.1 Bluetooth vs 4.0 Bluetooth
- dINC poorly runs rooted ICS vs MAXX will be getting ICS within weeks-months and has nearly identical hardware to the Galaxy Nexus, so ICS should run flawless (ICS is currently a ROM available for flashing, but it still has some bugs to be worked out)
- glass that has broken on my dINC vs Gorilla glass
- MAXX also has 2 other hardware features that help the GPS lock quicker and more accurately.
- MAXX is splash resistant (coated with water repellent)
- probably more, but I give up on trying to remember.
5: How is razr maxx radio signal strength? I tried Galaxy Nexus which said 3g more then 4G at my home and even lost connection a few times. HTC Rezound had good mostly 4G at my home.
The MAXX's 1x and 3G radio is very strong. Motorolla has always had great 1x and 3G radios and a big difference compared to my HTC dINC or my sisters dumbphone.
LTE is good as well, but if it gets a weak signal then it won't try to keep it (while draining more battery), it'll just drop it for 3G.
6: What does the modding community look like for razr maxx?
Sadly, not very well. The locked bootloader and the fact that Motorola has angered many hard core DEVs have made this possible
There is still hope our bootloader will get unlocked, so that idea isn't totally dead.
POQbum said:
1: What is the ppi on my incredible, first one, 3.7".
252 PPI
2: What is ppi on Razr maxx
256 PPI
3. What is the story with maxx bootloader locked? How does that affect roms and rooting?
Yes the bootloader is locked, but the phone is rooted. What this means is you are able to fully flash new ROM's, but are not able to flash new kernels, radios, and splash screens.
4. Is razr maxx much of an upgrade over my HTC Droid incredible.
dINC vs MAXX
- 512MB vs 1024MB of RAM
- very slow GPU vs fast GPU
- single core 1GHz and older generation snapdragon vs dual core 1.2 newer generation snapdragon
- 3.7" screen vs 4.3" screen (it's not bulky and can fit in jean pockets fine)
- 1700 mAh vs 3300 mAh (with combination of more battery efficient processor, and screen, it lasts much longer)
- 8GB internal vs 16GB internal
- TV out (eww) vs HDMI out
- 720p max recording vs 1080p max recording
- no front camera vs front camera
- 2.1 Bluetooth vs 4.0 Bluetooth
- dINC poorly runs rooted ICS vs MAXX will be getting ICS within weeks-months and has nearly identical hardware to the Galaxy Nexus, so ICS should run flawless (ICS is currently a ROM available for flashing, but it still has some bugs to be worked out)
- glass that has broken on my dINC vs Gorilla glass
- MAXX also has 2 other hardware features that help the GPS lock quicker and more accurately.
- MAXX is splash resistant (coated with water repellent)
- probably more, but I give up on trying to remember.
5: How is razr maxx radio signal strength? I tried Galaxy Nexus which said 3g more then 4G at my home and even lost connection a few times. HTC Rezound had good mostly 4G at my home.
The MAXX's 1x and 3G radio is very strong. Motorolla has always had great 1x and 3G radios and a big difference compared to my HTC dINC or my sisters dumbphone.
LTE is good as well, but if it gets a weak signal then it won't try to keep it (while draining more battery), it'll just drop it for 3G.
6: What does the modding community look like for razr maxx?
Sadly, not very well. The locked bootloader and the fact that Motorola has angered many hard core DEVs have made this possible
There is still hope our bootloader will get unlocked, so that idea isn't totally dead.
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The RAZR MAXX has a TI OMAP 4430 dual 1.2GHz core, not a Snapdragon, which is made by Qualcomm.
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The RAZR MAXX has a TI OMAP 4430 dual 1.2GHz core, not a Snapdragon, which is made by Qualcomm.
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ah thanks, I wrote it up from the top of my head. For some reason I was thinking snapdragon :/
Thanks everyone.
I got the Rezound I think the day after I posted this question. No one here, not one, had the maxx. Otherwise I was probably going to get it.
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Thanks everyone.
I got the Rezound I think the day after I posted this question. No one here, not one, had the maxx. Otherwise I was probably going to get it.
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Well you can always return the Rezound, and get the MAXX. I love the MAXX. I had the RAZR only thing wrong with it was the battery. Enter the MAXX, best phone ever.
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True except I have returned 5 or 6 phones already in the last 2 weeks.
I'm not sure how the Maxx is currently the best when the screen is only qhd. I know screen doesn't totally make a phone. Rezound has much better screen res wise but anyway. I did like the Maxx screen over my incredible.
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True except I have returned 5 or 6 phones already in the last 2 weeks.
I'm not sure how the Maxx is currently the best when the screen is only qhd. I know screen doesn't totally make a phone. Rezound has much better screen res wise but anyway. I did like the Maxx screen over my incredible.
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The MAXX has a Super Amoled Advanced screen. Better than the qHD screens found in the Bionic, Droid 3 & 4 and Droid X2.
I took pix in store at VZW with both the Rezound and the RAZR and didn't really see a difference. The Rezound felt clunky in my hand. Yes, the RAZR is wide, but I went with Moto's build quality. Their phones just feel more solid. But that's just personal preference.
You can't really go wrong with the Rezound, it is unlockable now. The dev community should start to really embrace it more.
I'm sure you'll be happy with the Rezound. I'm happy with my RAZR MAXX.
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Currently I'm up for a new phone on my contract and I'm considering the Droid Razr or Samsung GSII or Galaxy Nexus.
I've found a pretty decent contract for the Razr so I just want to see if anybody has any major gripes with the phone? All the reviews I have read/watched seem to give a pretty good outlook on the device.
Another question. Why are there so few custom ROMs for the phone? Is everyone waiting for an official release of ICS?
If you have anything to help make my choice, please add it below!
Almost took out the galaxy nexus on contract but what stopped me was its way to much like the Galaxy S2 which i own which is 2 plasticy and does not feel like a premium phone worth 400 to £500 , glad i got the Razr as it feels like its worth its value and will get better once the bootloader is unlocked and will be at its full potential once Icecream Sandwich is out
Dont buy anything from a company which lies to its customers !
I've been deciding on either the RAZR, the Nexus, or the Rezound. From what I've read, the Nexus can be buggy, and may have reboot and signal issues. The Rezound is a decent choice, but may not get as good a signal as the RAZR. The RAZR may not have great WIFI, but is good with 3/4G. Also, the RAZR's camera is not the best, especially in low light. My original Droid also had a weak camera. Personally, I'm going with the RAZR. I just wish the camera was better, but I need a good phone first.
Having a nexus....which I am trying to sell....I like the razr better. Huge difference is signal. Sitting in my houae on nexus was locked on -105. Razr is usually -86....at worst -95. Battery....on 3g is getting me easily through the day. Take it from someone whos had both.
Personally I would get the Maxx though if I were you.
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I have no complaints about my RAZR MAXX. Signal, speaker, build, battery, speed - all excellent. The development scene won't be as big as your other options, but there is a good amount of action at a competing forum (droidrzr). I find the RAZR to be so smooth that custom ROMing isn't all that necessary, though I do run a build stripped of VZW and Moto bloat (Eclipse).
There's a good number of new and cool phones coming out soon, I personally would wait just a bit. Unless there's something about the RAZR you gotta have. I know one could wait forever but you should be able to get a full 720p screen, bigger CPU, great camera etc without the plasticy feel rather soon.
I went from a droid x to a razr then ended up with a rezound. Just my opinion, the rezound won hands down.
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Had a Nexus for 3 days. Brought it back and got a razr. Brother had a Rezound, he also now owns a razr.
So you can guess what my opinion is.
Had to go to the Razr Maxx for the battery life and GPS. Was coming from a charge that sucked for both.
Razr MAxx ROCKS!!!
I just got rid of the galaxy nexus and got the razr i'm so glad i did i love the razr
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So I no longer have a DX2 (stolen and irretrievable) and I'll have to be replacing it with something else, any good suggestions for phones off-contract (not upgrade eligible until December) possibly used?
Thanks for any suggestions, been a good time using the DX2 with all of the help from here but unfortunately a new, and hopefully not as handicapped, phone is on my horizon.
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So I no longer have a DX2 (stolen and irretrievable) and I'll have to be replacing it with something else, any good suggestions for phones off-contract (not upgrade eligible until December) possibly used?
Thanks for any suggestions, been a good time using the DX2 with all of the help from here but unfortunately a new, and hopefully not as handicapped, phone is on my horizon.
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The HTC Rezound has an unlocked bootloader so that might worth looking into. Of course, the Nexus and S2 are beasts and should be considered.
I myself have been looking at the Galaxy Note as its perfect for my hands and great for Netflix and gaming.
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I'm really leaning towards the HTC Rezound as my next phone, but I've heard good things about the Galaxy Nexus as well.
The one thing holding me back from the Nexus is the lack of an SD Card slot. I have a 32gb class 10 MicroSD card that houses my music and also serves currently as my X2's internal SD card, so my apps are installed on that as well. So, I'm leaning heavily towards the Rezound.
Depending on how much you plan to spend..
From non-4G phones (cheaper), Droid Inc 2 can be had on CL for less than $100 once in a while. It was best phone that I had so far even though on the paper X2 is faster with dual core and all, with 756MB of ram and probably the cheapest phone among that are guaranteed (so far) to receive ICS, it SHOULD hold you over until your upgrade comes up IMHO. (It has unlocked BL, so PLENTY of ROMs to pick over - Except MIUI unless you want to stick with old version.)
You still want a phone to communicate with- stay w/ Moto!
After researching further, I see more pluses with the Rezound over the Galaxy. Both have unlocked bootloaders, but the extra storage I could get with the Rezound over the Galaxy is a big plus. Also, the Rezound has a better rear camera (8mp vs. 5mp).
I know the Nexus comes with 16gb or 32gb internal memory, but no SDCard expansions lost. With the Rezound, you get 16gb internal memory plus with my 32gb card, I'm looking at a total of 48gb of memory. Can't beat that.
I do like that the Nexus also has the soft keys on the screen, while the Rezound doesn't as it uses the hard keys, but I can overlook that. I guess the only thing is, the screens seem smaller than my X2's, but the resolution is better.
I'll just have to wait and see when my upgrade comes, but it looks like I'm leaning towards the Rezound. As it is, I already told Motorola that I won't be purchasing their products anymore, so I need to hold true to my word, unless they unlock the bootloaders.
Also, even though the Nexus comes with ICS on it, the Rezound has already been confirmed as getting ICS, so I can wait knowing it will get it eventually.
The big selling point on either one though is definitely the unlocked bootloader.
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iBolski said:
After researching further, I see more pluses with the Rezound over the Galaxy. Both have unlocked bootloaders, but the extra storage I could get with the Rezound over the Galaxy is a big plus. Also, the Rezound has a better rear camera (8mp vs. 5mp).
I know the Nexus comes with 16gb or 32gb internal memory, but no SDCard expansions lost. With the Rezound, you get 16gb internal memory plus with my 32gb card, I'm looking at a total of 48gb of memory. Can't beat that.
I do like that the Nexus also has the soft keys on the screen, while the Rezound doesn't as it uses the hard keys, but I can overlook that. I guess the only thing is, the screens seem smaller than my X2's, but the resolution is better.
I'll just have to wait and see when my upgrade comes, but it looks like I'm leaning towards the Rezound. As it is, I already told Motorola that I won't be purchasing their products anymore, so I need to hold true to my word, unless they unlock the bootloaders.
Also, even though the Nexus comes with ICS on it, the Rezound has already been confirmed as getting ICS, so I can wait knowing it will get it eventually.
The big selling point on either one though is definitely the unlocked bootloader.
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Dude, I am going to have to read every post you make... So far, with your research, I am now leaning towards an HTC. I WAS thinking about a Samsung, because of the Super Amoled screen, but, now... I'm leaning toward the Rezound... Thanks for the legwork! However, my upgrade comes in 1.5 years. Damn it.
Ciao!
I appreciate all of your responses. For a week I was stuck on my Blackberry 8330 (torture) until I was able to travel to Chicago this morning and just picked up a new Incredible 2.
Thanks to this whole community for your support on the X2. While I had it, it made it tolerable, and hopefully now I'm off to a better place. Good luck to all of you.
Yea, but you still can't beat the support directly from Google for any future updates. It's nice to get a Galaxy Nexus and know that you have a reference phone.
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I appreciate all of your responses. For a week I was stuck on my Blackberry 8330 (torture) until I was able to travel to Chicago this morning and just picked up a new Incredible 2.
Thanks to this whole community for your support on the X2. While I had it, it made it tolerable, and hopefully now I'm off to a better place. Good luck to all of you.
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Thanks for sharing. I am very curious about how the Dinc 2 sounds in phone use and radio reception in contrast to the x2?
Same as the OP i have left the X2 my self its still in my house just another family member is using it. I wish you guys luck i hope dragonz gets ics fully running on this phone as for me i went and got an iPhone 4S for a bit cause the x2 kinda killed android for me ill probably get another android phone in a year or so but i just wanna take a break sooo long guys ill poke in every now and then
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Thanks for sharing. I am very curious about how the Dinc 2 sounds in phone use and radio reception in contrast to the x2?
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I can answer that, as I also have had both phones. So the dx2 has better 3g and more bars everywhere. Sometimes I don't get 3g in places where I used to but I've never had a dropped call and call quality is mostly the same.
The freer culture of htc and the dinc2 is totally great, and worth the loss of service.
Another interesting thought - some dinc2'ers took copper wire and attached it to the 3g antenna to extend the antenna and reported better service, but I was hesitant to to do that.
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Thanks for sharing. I am very curious about how the Dinc 2 sounds in phone use and radio reception in contrast to the x2?
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Dude I fired up my bb storm today for kicks and Jesus Christ, that thing is baddddd
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Thanks for sharing. I am very curious about how the Dinc 2 sounds in phone use and radio reception in contrast to the x2?
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well I don't know about the inc 2 but I'm sitting here with my buddies original incredible, and it is pulling nearly the exact same speeds and signal as my x2, and I've made calls to my house phone using each of them and got the same quality in call sound/reception, and this is with around -90 » -95 dbm signal strength,
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skwoodwiva said:
Thanks for sharing. I am very curious about how the Dinc 2 sounds in phone use and radio reception in contrast to the x2?
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One of my friends whom I talk with very frequently on the phone thought I had her on speaker the first time I called her from this phone. I haven't personally "tested" them against each other per se but that was a kind of odd first reaction.
As for radio reception, it appears it is down versus that of the X2 but I am having much better luck with wi-fi connectivity thus far. I use Google Voice for everything and my texting has been more than happy to take to the wi-fi. I will likely be testing GrooveIP on it soon to see how well that works; it was absolutely awful when I tried it on my X2.
I have the rezound currently and I would say I am very pleased with the phone. I came from a bionic after 2 X2 insurance replacement phones for my original X. The verizon reps seemed to be pushing the razer as the one to get. I felt I needed something non-moto for a change. The bionic was buggy to say the least. Verizon treated it as a warranty issue and I am happy to stay with them as my carrier.
Staying with Verizon meant getting a razer, galaxy nexus, rezound, or waiting for something else. Every rep at the store seemed to have the opinion that if I thought the bionic was buggy I should steer clear of the galaxy. I just couldn't bring myself to get another moto product. Overall, I've been happy with moto products and will probably purchase their products in the future. Just felt like trying something different after the og droid>droid x>droid x2>bionic.
I spent a decent amount of time checking out all three phones next to each other at a Verizon store. All three have great looking screens. The nexus and the rezound benefit from 720 resolution, whereas the razer has qhd resolution. I played a hd trailer for "300" on YouTube simultaneously on all three for comparison. The blacks were more black on the amoled nexusand razer screens. But the details were most crisp on the rezound. I believe the pixel density on the rezound is currently the highest available on any device, even the the new iPad. The rezound has a dual core 1.5Ghz processor, a gig of ram, an sd card slot and a removable battery. Why any phone lacks a removable battery and an sd card slot is beyond me.
I've been happy with my rezound in every way except one, accessories. At best buy there is a great selection of cases for the nexus and razer is extensive. Multiple brands and colors. Cases, batteries available for the rezound, zero zip nada. Certainly not a deal breaker for me, but something to think about.
I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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ramongarza said:
I was given the option to switch? What should I do? I am getting really desperate because of no root on my DNA!? Is there any other phones on Verizon I should look towards?
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Galaxy s4 at the end of the month. Pretty sure it will see more action than the DNA. Though DNA imo is probably better.
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The only better spec on the razr is probably the battery it has nothing on the dna.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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Ummm... No....
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I've owned both. The battery life is immensely great on the maxx. But it being locked down like the dna was horrible. Motoblur is kept to a minimum. While Rom speed ends up slow due to the lacking dual core. The moto doesn't have anything resembling a task manager so the phone becomes quick overrun by rogue apps robbing memory. It does have a decent radio but the lte radios were horrible. I had a unique problem the other razr owners had. Dust would accumulate in the headphone port cause it not to switch AT ALL. The Maxx is a decent phone. But the HTC has a better radio and reception, faster processor and a better camera. However. The maxx had a better microphone for videos. I have comparison videos I could post if you'd like. But. I chose the DNA.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
Sad to know that specwise. The RAZR. Is/mighthavebeen the thinnest phone on the market. I got better reception on my DNA than I ever did on the maxx. It would also heat up quite a bit whereas the DNA is slightly warm? And only hot with my wireless charger. The razr used to heat up even in a long phone call which made it almost unbearable to hold on your face. I also had to send my RAZR in for a refurb. Vibe motor became disconnected from the mobo and rattled in the phone. Except the razr had a very strong vibe motor. The colors and screen quality got better with the JB update it got. However in lowlight settings the physical manufacturing limits of the screen left black splotches that with time will expand and move about the screen. You cannot see these under high brightness. 3 razr maxx's and one friends razr all had this issue so its not limited to batch runs. I can imagine they improved this with the newer HD version but I can't atest to it. The motorola hardware is SOLID. But the software that moto overlays can be cumbersome. At least HTC always tests sense. Even on a 5-600mhz Qualcomm the sense doesn't lag. I can keep answering any questions you have. I'm very very picky. My DNA headphone port plastic chipped away one day. But. I still have my charge door. I don't plug in.
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If you're at all used to the speed, display, and smoove operating on the DNA, the Maxx HD will be a difficult pill to swallow. I went that route and had real trouble getting over the screen; there is absolutely no comparison to the DNA and the DNA wins hands down. The second thing I noticed on the Maxx HD was the lag that creeps up and bites you on the @ss. At first I didn't think it was any big deal. As time went on however, the lag got worse and worse until I finally said, "Enough!". At one point I was using TiB to reboot the phone for me every night just to clear things out.
I gave up the stellar battery life for a phone I'm in love with. IMHO there isn't anything out there which compares to the DNA; my only desire would be a bigger battery, but there are tradeoffs to be considered. I've learned to live with the battery life using a combo of carefully monitoring specific app battery consumption and using a wireless charger. I'm sure there are people who have gone this route and decided to stick with the Maxx HD or some other phone for their own personal priorities.
With the launch of the S4 and the One I'm sure they will rival the DNA in many areas. However I don't know if they'll usurp the DNA in my daily usage, that remains to be seen. Good luck with your choice!
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Reception: My wife has never before commented on my phones and their reception. However when I started using the DNA she said, "Your phone sounds a lot clearer than it has in the past. Have you been somewhere other than your normal place for talking to me while at work?" I've noticed the DNA is as good or better than the Moto for reception and voice quality; IMHO that's not at all a reason to give up the DNA.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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As a Moto owner (Bionic) I find it interesting that you think updates come quicker for Motorola than for HTC. Its not the brand, its VZW!
On a side note, I'm considering the DNA as a replacement for my Bionic. I'm mainly concerned that I'll be switching from one red-headed step-child to another! Currently waiting to see what happens with the HTC One before I make my decision.
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Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
I work for Verizon and I have the DNA as my personal phone and the Razr Maxx HD as my work phone. I can tell you I like both I don't think either is bad but there are pros a cons. for me I like the 32GB of internal and up to 64GB MicroSD card support on the Razr. I love the battery on the Razr like 2 to 3 days with good usage. however cons horrible camera. The dual core lags and the phone freezes more for me. also the screen is no where near as good. also I and I will get a lot that disagree actually like Sense over motoblur. Mind you I have Sense 5. Also I love the wireless charging in the DNA. Personally I am waiting I have heard we are getting a DNA+ soon and S4 is coming amongst a few others.
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How do you know that the radios are better? "Because its a Motorola" is not a valid answer.
OP, the razr HD is even wider than the DNA. It is difficult to use with one hand.
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"Because it's a motorola" is a completely valid answer. They have *never* been good at tuning radios for use on VZW's network. It's always been crap, from the OG Droid to the new RAZR line, and the Bionic was a massive failure in that category, worse than others. The only thing Motorola knows how to do is build decent material-quality handsets. Everything else about them is less than sub par.
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In all fairness, the Razr Maxx has twice the internal memory, option for an SD card, quicker updates from Motorola, better radios and currently an unlocked bootloader option. As for screen resolution, smoothness (quad-core plus twice the ram), camera and features the DNA wins in those categories.
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The updates come *way* quicker from HTC than Motorola, some of them don't even come at all from Motorola.
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Dude, your Bionic just got JB! You should be happy. :good:
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I "should" be happy, except that I'm running CM10.1, so I haven't even bothered with the JB update. To be honest, I was really surprised that they even pushed the JB update out. It took forever to get ICS, and don't forget all the radio issues with the Bionic.
Still, I can (and may) upgrade next month. Not totally happy with any of the options at this point, so I may hold on a little longer. I've even contemplated buying a used phone and leaving my contract as-is for now in case I get totally frustrated with VZW and decide to jump ship.
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I was pretty surprised about the JB as well; I think Moto is trying to make up for the bad mojo created early in the life of that device. Back in the day I went through a couple of them and agonized over terrible radios, poor battery life, a year before an official ICS was released, bad camera, etc...you know the drill. I couldn't handle it and jumped ship for a GNex (at the time).
Regarding not upgrading, I highly recommend sticking with the used market and leaving the contract alone or going month-to-month. Especially since VZW pushed the upgrade cycle from 18mo. to 24mo., even the economics of upgrading don't make a whole lot of sense to me. Of course I'm grandfathered in to unlimited data so they can pry that out of my cold, dead hands. The secondary market really isn't bad, and it's especially safe on eBay. Generally you can catch a price break on CL, but there are a lot of shady characters pushing some bad deals - if you know what to look out for though, it can be navigated.
Good luck with your choice, and with whatever device you choose next.
Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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Motorola X Phone may be a good choice
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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If it ever comes... and will it end up being the next Bionic? Remember, that was supposed to come out in Feb 2011, but was delayed until Sept. Then the RAZR showed up just before Christmas!
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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True. Then again what real staying power does any king of the hill have? Only until the next younger, stronger, smarter, faster, better looking, more nimble, blah, blah, blah....shows up. In all seriousness, I am really impressed with the way the Bionic hardware and build can still almost keep up with the current pack. Says a lot about Moto, at least Moto ca. 2010.
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Very good point. So my real question, and reason for posting in this thread, is to find out if the DNA might be the next phone to do the same... Although I have my concerns about the fixed internal battery and lack of microSD.
I had a RMHD bought through Bestbuy. I loved the build and feel of it, the battery was amazing , but the thing that pushed me away was the horrible lag and screen redraws. It drove me crazy. Now having had a Note 2 which for me was too large, I decided to switch to the DNA last Saturday and am pretty happy so far. Size and speed are great , battery is decent (nowhere near RMHD or N2) but fine for my usage. Bought the wireless charger and like it also. That's just my experience. Had the RMHD not lagged so much I would have gone with it .
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