Motorola timeline was updated so the photon and atrix are now listed as "Further plans coming soon". Now I'm no longer on the photon any more, but this pisses me off.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...grade-timeline-updated-many-ics-otas-delayed/
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It's annoying effort sure. I was using joker's cm10 on my Electrify, but needed more stability and battery life so I'm back to cm7 for now.
Even if they would just release drivers to the public...I won't even ask for a full build.
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unlock our phones and get lost Moto
if Moto has no plans to update, let them unlock our phone and get lost.
I will think 100 times before planing to buy a MOTO phone in the future.
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if Moto has no plans to update, let them unlock our phone and get lost.
I will think 100 times before planing to buy a MOTO phone in the future.
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this might mean jellybean is coming (;
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this might mean jellybean is coming (;
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I'm thinking "Future Plans" means we are skipping ICS entirely for JB - I mean Development already started for The Photon back in the last update. They can't just announce right now that they are doing that for those 2 phones.
If my phone gets JB, I may just **** a house. However, I'm not concerned with wait time cause I'm not due for an upgrade till May.
Also, this will be my last Motorola unless we get a nexus device.
Even then, Motorola and Google are gonna hafta wow me
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If we do actually get an update now to anything i will be happy because we can use the drivers to make the roms on here run better but my hope is that they do not cancel everything and do not give us an update at all because i will also definitely think twice before buying another moto phone. I am already on the fence about wanting to get rid of my photon and trying to pick us a nexus because of the timely updates and good developer support. Just waiting to see if motorola really does push me to do it by getting rid of any update for our phone.
I'm hoping that "further plans" means they are doing JB, if they were going to cancel they would have put "Will remain on Gingerbread (Android 2.3)"
I'm been using the AOKP JB Build on my photon and absolutely love it. So I'm not too concerned if there ends up being a JB update or not. Our devs rock. Screw motorola.
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I'm been using the AOKP JB Build on my photon and absolutely love it. So I'm not too concerned if there ends up being a JB update or not. Our devs rock. Screw motorola.
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Big props to the XDA devs for sure. Unfortunately I'm on a locked bootloader so I can only use a few good roms.
Are you not wanting to unlock the bootloader? I know you lose 4g. But I personally haven't missed it. I've enjoyed the freedom of an unlocked bl.
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Are you not wanting to unlock the bootloader? I know you lose 4g. But I personally haven't missed it. I've enjoyed the freedom of an unlocked bl.
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No I can't unlock it. My phone was on 2.3.5 OTA update when I bought it. So it's never getting unlocked as of right now.
Page updated. Atrix 4G and Photon 4G to remain on Gingerbread.
USA:
Atrix 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Photon 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Same for Asia pacific.
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Page updated. Atrix 4G and Photon 4G to remain on Gingerbread.
USA:
Atrix 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Photon 4G: Will remain on Gingerbread (2.3)
Same for Asia pacific.
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This is so depressing
FU Motorola Never Again. :banghead:
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No more moto phones for me after this.
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I'm already done with moto, but they better release an sbf for gingerbread. I can't even sell my photon because the soak I'm on fails to update to the official release.
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Change the name of thread to "F***ing plan coming soon "... it suites this company...
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This is interesting.
Found these links in the Moto Atrix forums.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/28/rumor-motorola-puts-gingerbread-on-hold-builds-for-droid2-global-etc-to-work-out-bugs/
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/29/did-verizon-reject-motorola-gingerbread-updates-for-being-overly-buggy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Wonder if there is truth to this or not.
if it is true then +1 to verizon. tmobile or att would probably allow them even if they were buggy.
Yeah I saw that on phonearena.com this morning. I wonder how often this kinda stuff happens. Moto needs to step up their game bigtime.
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if it is true then +1 to verizon. tmobile or att would probably allow them even if they were buggy.
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Lmao are you kidding me? Have you seen how long it takes AT&T to push out updates to their android phones?
I'd rather have a buggy release sooner because devs on XDA are like 10x faster at fixing them anyways.
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Maybe the update also has the possibility to unlock bootloader and Verizon is saying f*&k no, take it back.
probably not, but would suck for vzw users
Hopefully that doesn't delay the Atrix update D:
Forget that. Send it out now. I trust our devs more than moto to fix the bugs and do it better lol.
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Lmao are you kidding me? Have you seen how long it takes AT&T to push out updates to their android phones?
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I dont use At&t (;
also you have to think about the phones verizon has.. the droid x2 is a piece. lol
cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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because att has most likely seen this and other carriers might follow? who knows.
think about if verizon doesnt let this release because of so many bugs, then think about if att does let it release with all its bugs. people will think att is careless, att doesnt want that im sure.. just my oppinion
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cant see where this is relevant to ATRIX... verizon doesn't carry it...
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It's relevant because the same or similar bugs could exist in the Atrix GB they are developing. Also, if they are putting more resources into making Verizon happy, this could delay an Atrix release.
The whole point of the thread was to raise discussion about the possible implications if this news is in fact true.
I don't think that it should have any effect on our beloved Atrix 2.3 release (AT&T version), coz the bootloader is unlocked, so even if the update will be buggy the skillful devs here at XDA will do there magic to provide us with stable roms.
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I don't think that it should have any effect on our beloved Atrix 2.3 release (AT&T version), coz the bootloader is unlocked, so even if the update will be buggy the skillful devs here at XDA will do there magic to provide us with stable roms.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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ye if anyone it would be moto allowing it, and att saying no. lol I just want the update though, depends on the bugs.
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I very much doubt that AT&T or Moto will be relying on XDA devs to finish their work for them.
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He's not saying that. He's saying that most of us here will not be running stock. So a lot of those bugs many of us won't encounter
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He's not saying that. He's saying that most of us here will not be running stock. So a lot of those bugs many of us won't encounter
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I believe you are wrong. As soon as the GB update goes live everyone is going to dump the HKTW build and flash the Moto update. At that point everyone is running stock and waiting for devs to fix all their complaints. Yes most of us will not be running stock, but that will be after the update comes.
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I'm not dumping the HKTW build until it's been verified that the AT&T 2.3.4 build will have an unlockable bootloader. I've had a couple of friends that got hurt by the Sprint EVO 4G update and are still stuck waiting just to get root back.
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I believe you are wrong. As soon as the GB update goes live everyone is going to dump the HKTW build and flash the Moto update. At that point everyone is running stock and waiting for devs to fix all their complaints. Yes most of us will not be running stock, but that will be after the update comes.
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Um, I believe none of us can know exactly what will be out. For all you or I know, we could be on the verge of cm7. With most things working.
Of course, a reply I would expect from you is "the devs won't have roms out by then."
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Of course, a reply I would expect from you is "the devs won't have roms out by then."
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I have never mentioned timing or the ability of devs to get ROMS out. Your point is?
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I just wonder if Motorola has released the update of 2.3.5 for the Atrix 4G. I know that the Atrix 2 does come with the new update of 2.3.5! Any ideas?
Not that I know of but for now ROMs are taking care of making the phone fast hopefully support continues though
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I just wonder if Motorola has released the update of 2.3.5 for the Atrix 4G. I know that the Atrix 2 does come with the new update of 2.3.5! Any ideas?
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I can't understand how you just miss EVERYTHING.
Check Motorolas website. Easier than creating an account for here, posting a question, and waiting for a response.
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anyone know if the ics ota update is really coming this week?so much conflicting info on the other forums,i have unfroze all my bloatware and am pateintly waiting......
Everything I have read points to it rolling out tomorrow, haven't really seen any conflicting info, seems pretty consistent.
in order to recieve the OTA update do i need to get rid of my root?
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anyone know if the ics ota update is really coming this week?so much conflicting info on the other forums,i have unfroze all my bloatware and am pateintly waiting......
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yeah i know! i work for verizon and its rolling out to YOUR device tomorrow at 3:01 AM Eastern time!! ENJOY!!!
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in order to recieve the OTA update do i need to get rid of my root?
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From what I've seen and heard, being rooted won't prevent you from receiving this OTA, but you will lose root access unless you backup su and temp-unroot with Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper or the like.
I also work for BIG RED and OTA will be be rolling out of tomorrow.
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I wonder if the leaked ICS is the same as the OTA?
The only word anyone's seen is from Best Buy, not Verizon or Moto. The fact that the leak/soak test exists is a sign we're close(but who knows how close). I guess we'll all be really happy, or super pissed tomorrow @3:01 am... Lol
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I also work for BIG RED and OTA will be be rolling out of tomorrow.
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Only for CDMA model or GSM too??
If only CDMA, do you kown when will be rolling out for GSM?
Big Red deals with CDMA only, they wouldn't know the GSM date.
Seihaku is correct. We only know about t CDMA roll outs. But hopefully soon
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Big Red deals with CDMA only, they wouldn't know the GSM date.
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Thank you for the information. If someone else didnt post this, I wouldve threw on my Captain Obvious suit and made a presence lol
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Only for CDMA model or GSM too??
If only CDMA, do you kown when will be rolling out for GSM?
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Unlikely to be soon, seeing as there are no known soak tests for ICS on the XT910 yet. Knowing Moto's treatment of their GSM users, we probably won't get an ICS OTA until the MAXX is out over here... in May.
Lol the funny thing is that we were supposed to get it before us.
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Have they even pushed that soak yet? Signup is still open as of the last time I looked.
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Lol the funny thing is that we were supposed to get it before us.
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Most likely scenario is that the ICS work was originally being carried out for the GSM RAZR, then someone in management intervened and made the DROID RAZR a priority due to Moto's contract with Verizon. I imagine once the ICS update goes live and there are no showstoppers, they'll continue to QA test the update internally for about a month before pushing it out as a soak test for a week, before finally pushing the release version.
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yeah i know! i work for verizon and its rolling out to YOUR device tomorrow at 3:01 AM Eastern time!! ENJOY!!!
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I am going to assume you are being sarcastic right but if not that would be outstanding
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Have they even pushed that soak yet? Signup is still open as of the last time I looked.
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Can u post a link for signup
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Can u post a link for signup
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You'll have to go on the Moto forums and update your profile to opt-in with your IMEI. They're still sending out emails but as far as I know they haven't launched the actual test.
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Unlikely to be soon, seeing as there are no known soak tests for ICS on the XT910 yet. Knowing Moto's treatment of their GSM users, we probably won't get an ICS OTA until the MAXX is out over here... in May.
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I hope in a GSM beta version leaked soon!
Now I'm running a mod 4.0.3 rom based
I'll try to sign me up for the soak...
"He says that "most" Motorola devices released since 2011 will get upgraded to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean before the end of the year..."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/5/3294428/motorola-100-credit-jelly-bean-upgrade
What do you think?
Will that even apply to us in the uk and europe. And i don't like the term "very soon"
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Hard to believe it all.
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Lol let them release ics first
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After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
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After this annoucement they off course will update Our razr maxx to jelly bean, the question is when....
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Why only maxxx?
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I will only believe this announcement if Jelly Bean for RAZR XT910 become real before the end of the year.
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Lol let them release ics first
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ICS has been out for weeks..
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ICS has been out for weeks..
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It's not in our phones though so its the same as "it isn't out".That regarding Europe.
When I see the fastboot-files for JB emerge, then I will believe it...
expect a waiting period of now to infinity
It took them 6 months to release ICS in the states... in Canada only 9... some people still waiting... I'll believe JB when I see it not even gonna bother hoping this gets officially released
Very soon to the carriers.. Then expect the carriers in the USA to take 9 months more...
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ICS has been out for weeks..
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Not in Europe
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"Before the end of the year" but what year? 2014 would be adequate to their attitude
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I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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I think they probably will release it this year, cause the leap from ics to jb is a small one, just a few changes. So they should release it in one month not three. But this is trying on their side to get customers back. They won't admit it but they lost a lot of customers with their attitude. But it is too little to late. Interest in their new phones is virtualy non existent. Nobody is getting exited and that is a sign of bad things to come for the company. They will try evrything now even maybe to unlock the bootloader, but nobody cares anymore...most of us are just waiting for contract to expire and to move on. RIP Motorola.
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I partialy agree with you BUT:
"So they should release it in one month not three." - we will be happy if they release it in three months instead of 9....
"even maybe to unlock the bootloader" - I am affraid that they are to proud to do something like this...
"but nobody cares anymore" - in fact there are users who doesn't care about rooting, roms etc and from that point of view are the motorolas phones good choice as the hw is great...
"RIP Motorola." - right... Motorola lost nearly all their powerusers....
I think it will happen & you are going to see a complete swing shift now that the Google takeover is complete and they have started putting their personnel in charge, as well as the lay offs etc.
I know they originally said that they would let it run as a stand alone but I think the company is too big a worldwide name for them to let fail, they would lose too much face if they let that happen. You also have people that have now not lost their job, bricking it that it may still happen and looking to make names for themselves within the company and in that environment anything can happen.
Biggest thing for me is for another Operation Mosh should be ran right now and by everyone that possibly can, with the noises they are making about upgrades, changes that are being made in the company, new phones and bootloader unlock tools etc, I think the time for a push on this has never been better to try accomplish this goal.
Or worst case scenario, they will do what they did with 2.3.6 update to nonefigs when ics update was announced. They will dump it , because ICS was so close , just now they will do it with 4.0.4.
Just joking (hopefully )
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I just hope something leaks so the devs can get into it, because my wife was still running official 2.3.6 on her RAZR, nothing custom ever flashed on it and when the notification came through for the OTA ICS update Australia it just failed at instal everytime, i even took it out of cache folder and attempted manual installs all different ways and just kept failing... Upside was, my wife finally let me root and flash her phone so she now knows what she was missing out on lol.
So basically, going by past experience Moto would be better off sending there updates direct to the devs so it can be fixed and improved
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I emailed MOTO and asked about the OTA and this is what I got.
Currently, we do not have information if the Jellybean update will be released.
This is for the CDMA Version
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That doesn't mean anything.
The Verizon Galaxy Nexus is getting the 4.1.2 OTA eventually, but the email from Verizon says they have no info on the 4.1.2 update.
So again. Doesn't mean anything. You could still get the 4.1 OTA, Especially with Google owning Moto pushing Them to update their phones.
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That doesn't mean anything.
The Verizon Galaxy Nexus is getting the 4.1.2 OTA eventually, but the email from Verizon says they have no info on the 4.1.2 update.
So again. Doesn't mean anything. You could still get the 4.1 OTA, Especially with Google owning Moto pushing Them to update their phones.
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It still has to go through Verizon though
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I emailed MOTO and asked about the OTA and this is what I got.
Currently, we do not have information if the Jellybean update will be released.
This is for the CDMA Version
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Seriously, do you think the announcement is going to be broadcast to you first?
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It still has to go through Verizon though
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I think Google should tell Verizon to FVCK OFF the way Apple did.
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Seriously, do you think the announcement is going to be broadcast to you first?
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I'll ask Verizon then and when I'm doing it I'm going to ask them who tells who to lock the bootloaders
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I think Google should tell Verizon to FVCK OFF the way Apple did.
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I wished Google was more involved but it seems they don't really care. They just make the OS. Apple got their stuff on lock, nobody tells apple what to do. Apple doesn't need the carriers, the carries need apple. They probably have enough money to create their own carrier if they wanted to.
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motop said all phones from 2011 on will be getting jellybean and that only a few wont because of device performance (i would guess the citris for one). For those that wont get it will get a $100 credit from moto for a razr hd/maxx or m models. Now what if moto says we have 4.1.x for the verizon cdma/lte razr but vzw wont allow the update. The update passes our moto tests and does not degrade the performance of the device. So no $100 credit then i would guess...
meh does the 100 rebate go to everyone or just the states?
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Wow, this is seriously another DUMB thread started to waist more space.. I bet if you call Santa Clause, he will give you a straight answer..
That doesn't mean anything, because there isn't a official announcement yet.
Moto said that they would also upgrade some of the 2011 devices, the flagship device in 2011 is actually RAZR.
I'm still not buying an apple
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Wow, this is seriously another DUMB thread started to waist more space.. I bet if you call Santa Clause, he will give you a straight answer..
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LOLOLOL.
I always laugh at users when they get a update to the NEWER (not latest) OS. Then within a week you start hearing (in a whinney voice) "I want ICS....I want Jelly Bean". No one is satisfied with what they have. I know, I was oneo of them...I was on the Thunderbolt for 18 months and only after it broke and they wouldn't replace it with another TBolt I got the RAZR MAXX and got my hands on ICS.....It is great and love it...and I am NOT crying for Jelly Bean.....YET!. I am still getting use to ICS.
So, the moral of the story......PEOPLE....enjoy what you have...if not, pony up the cash with every new phone that comes out and get the latest OS.
I want key lime pie and i want it now... or so help me i will kick and scream until all android devices get tge new key lime pie
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Guys if you want the latest OS, you should've gotten a Nexus.
That was what I debated over when I was picking a RAZR or the Nexus.
I waited to December 15th to buy the Nexus. And I was so close to selling out for a RAZR. It worth the wait though.
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Wow, this is seriously another DUMB thread started to waist more space.. I bet if you call Santa Clause, he will give you a straight answer..
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I called him and he said that I will be getting it exclusively.
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Wow, this my seriously DUMB comment I started in this thread to waste more space.
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There I fixed it for you
I suppose the title of the thread was a little misleading and you mistook it for the thread reserved for pretentious douche-bags.
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Guys if you want the latest OS, you should've gotten a Nexus.
That was what I debated over when I was picking a RAZR or the Nexus.
I waited to December 15th to buy the Nexus. And I was so close to selling out for a RAZR. It worth the wait though.
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really the verizon nexus and the verizon gallery nexus both only have ics as vzw has not allowed yet jellybean because new york city mayor michael bloomberg said that jellybeans are bad for our health and that we can only have two jellybeans per year.
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LOLOLOL.
I always laugh at users when they get a update to the NEWER (not latest) OS. Then within a week you start hearing (in a whinney voice) "I want ICS....I want Jelly Bean". No one is satisfied with what they have. I know, I was oneo of them...I was on the Thunderbolt for 18 months and only after it broke and they wouldn't replace it with another TBolt I got the RAZR MAXX and got my hands on ICS.....It is great and love it...and I am NOT crying for Jelly Bean.....YET!. I am still getting use to ICS.
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within a week?
within a day is more like it.
just like when a new anything comes out...somebody wants to know if they should buy it or wait until it the next updated version in 2 years.
afa jb for razr.....they have enough problems with ics and that took over a year to get updated whereas other brands got it sooner
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