NO! its not a mistake!
fuses from the Juopunutbear team has done it!
long story short:
i asked the Juopunutbear team if that's possible to s-off our device using the "wire-trick". 24 hours later- its done.
(something like that http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm)
the process is a bit tricky and will be explained soon by a member of the team.
i got to be the tester of the process and its working. we are now waiting for the team to finish their work, and in a few days its going to be posted.
So, don't get rid of your Jetstreams yet, contact every developer available. there is still hope for us!
Thank god, I was really starting to resent HTC.....
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LTE
guru_shastri said:
NO! its not a mistake!
fuses from the Juopunutbear team has done it!
long story short:
i asked the Juopunutbear team if that's possible to s-off our device using the "wire-trick". 24 hours later- its done.
(something like that http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm)
the process is a bit tricky and will be explained soon by a member of the team.
i got to be the tester of the process and its working. we are now waiting for the team to finish their work, and in a few days its going to be posted.
So, don't get rid of your Jetstreams yet, contact every developer available. there is still hope for us!
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This is so cool news. It increases the chances of developers showing more interest and the chances of improvement for our device. The Juopunutbear team had shown interest in helping us and asked for some pictures of the SIM area a while back - I had posted them but hadn't heard of any development from them. So I guess it is good.
As I believe Good Things Come to Those Who Wait.
the thing is, no one said what they are looking for. the pictures that were uploaded to the forum are of the sim slot and the sd slot. and in both you can't see the two pins that are exactly between the slots. those pins are what the theam looking for.
it is a sad coincidence - this could have been accomplished almost six months ago.
but better late then never...
i just hope we could get a developer working on this. i saw shenye is still trying, i think we should try contacting osimood and idanfima as well
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the thing is, no one said what they are looking for. the pictures that were uploaded to the forum are of the sim slot and the sd slot. and in both you can't see the two pins that are exactly between the slots. those pins are what the theam looking for.
it is a sad coincidence - this could have been accomplished almost six months ago.
but better late then never...
i just hope we could get a developer working on this. i saw shenye is still trying, i think we should try contacting osimood and idanfima as well
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Indianfima is also working as far as my knowledge goes. Let the s-off official procedure be released I think after which we will definitely be seeing more development I think.
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Very good news for you guys
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guru_shastri said:
NO! its not a mistake!
fuses from the Juopunutbear team has done it!
long story short:
i asked the Juopunutbear team if that's possible to s-off our device using the "wire-trick". 24 hours later- its done.
(something like that http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm)
the process is a bit tricky and will be explained soon by a member of the team.
i got to be the tester of the process and its working. we are now waiting for the team to finish their work, and in a few days its going to be posted.
So, don't get rid of your Jetstreams yet, contact every developer available. there is still hope for us!
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They have put up the method with explaination. Find it at http://unlimited.io/jb_verdilte.htm
Finally S-OFF!
What rom were you guys running when you ran this? I know we are supposed to be on stock, but some custom roms usually work.
Sent from my HTC Jetstream
i reverted back to RUU to do it.
also, you'll see that its a bit tricky getting the ground when the sd is inside. make sure you touch the tiny metal part thats exposde there..and follow instructions to the letter.
if you're having problams, the irc support chat over there is great.
So, even with S-OFF status now,
why would devs be interested in a year old device with a minute community?
I think the window of opportunity for Jetstream is over.
Ammi wrong?
a) the bounty can't hurt.
b) a year old, but still very able. better than some of the competitors.
c) its up to the community. as small as it is.
this s-off thing didn't just happen out of the blue. in this case, i made it happen. i asked, and nagged, and agreed to be the tester. of course i didn't wrote a single code line, but i found the people that did. (THANKS FUSES)
if we, together, will find a developer, or raise the bounty - good things will happen.
i know it sounds cheezy, but its true. if we'll give up now, then its dead. if we'll pursue a developer - one will turn up.
i already approached shenye and idanfima, asking if they could help moving this thing forward.
giving up now is the worst thing we could do.
In the middle of procedure, during in implementing the wire-trick I saw "QHSUSB_DLOAD driver not found".End nothing else.
after that Jetstream dying. To charging did not react, did not ON. Can I do something?
asked here:
http://unlimited.io/support.htm
i have no idea if anyone else managed to get his device s-off
WOOO!!! Add me to the list, I am now S-OFF!!!
the process went smooth?
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the process went smooth?
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Actually, the process got stuck after the wire trick, but I went on the support irc and got it straightened out.
Sent from my HTC Jetstream
can you tell if that's got something to do with the files they uploaded or something you have done wrong?
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can you tell if that's got something to do with the files they uploaded or something you have done wrong?
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Yea, I think it was my fault, I posted what happened in the official thread.
Related
So HTC's two new 2.1 phones were rooted by Paul O'Brian, hours after he had his hands on them.
http://twitteling.com/2010/04/htc-desire-and-htc-legend-has-succeeded-in-the-root/
Apparently it was 'easy'. He is without internet and on vacation for two weeks, so no more details.
For Legend/Desire users it does not mean much yet, due to file systems being locked. However if this could be used on our 2.1 ROMs, we would be wide open.
Did we miss something simple? If you have time, and willingness please join me in looking for something simple, that could of been overlooked by both HTC and ourselves. This has been on my mind for days.
Several Desire owners have informed me that oem unlock is disabled just like our phones, so the n1 method is not what he used. I image the desire/legend kernel is somewhat close to our's. Like our's, no kernel source is available.
Any Shots are welcome.
Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
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Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
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He is without internet and on vacation for two weeks, so no more details.
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sure korben if you happen to have his phone number.....
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Is there a way of contacting this Paul guy?
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Not until the 20th, and even if I did have a way I wouldn't bug him on his vacation.
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Not until the 20th, and even if I did have a way I wouldn't bug him on his vacation.
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No kidding! Can't a guy get a vacation these days without people getting up his ass asking for help?
I dont want to get flamed just asking wasn't this orginally posted on April Fools Day is it possiblly a fake. I'm no expert and devs could probably look at the picture and tell?
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I dont want to get flamed just asking wasn't this orginally posted on April Fools Day is it possiblly a fake. I'm no expert and devs could probably look at the picture and tell?
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It was posted on April 1st, its not a joke.
Long time Lurker, first time poster.
I know that the roms from HTC are signed and it would be almost imposable to hack the key used to sign the roms. However have the developers looked at it from the other direction? Do we know how the Eris stores the certificate that is used to check the signed Roms? Dose the Eris use a keystore for this and is that store shared with the web browser? Would it be possible to Inject or replace the Cert in order to sign our own roms? I'm guessing not but you never know.
I'm not a dev so its ok to flame me if this is way off base or been covered before.
Also thank to all the Dev's for all of your hard work.
Derek
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well this is atleast something positive. Lets hope this guy is our savior...
I hope he's having a wonderful vacation , the dev team deserves it
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@jcase: I'm thinking he just used a pre-compiled root (asroot/m7 etc), which would be the easiest possible way to do it. We have tried pretty much all known kernel sploits a hundred different ways and the Eris kernel still stands untouched. However, if these newer phones are vulnerable to the same exploits (need official word on this from Paul), then perhaps they're not patched on Eris, but are just incompatible / working not as intended.
Bounty?
Is the bounty still alive/in effect?
Chances are he doesn't own an Eris. Then again, he might not need to...
If so, well, I'd be willing to contribute to getting one into his hands.
The second build of the leak is acting up for me. I was pretty happy with the first one actually. This is what being impatient does
It'll be awesome to see how this was done as the security on the devices seems similar to ours from the limited amount I can see...
I didn't realize he still was on vacation, I assumed he waited to report his findings until he got home.
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@jcase: I'm thinking he just used a pre-compiled root (asroot/m7 etc), which would be the easiest possible way to do it. We have tried pretty much all known kernel sploits a hundred different ways and the Eris kernel still stands untouched. However, if these newer phones are vulnerable to the same exploits (need official word on this from Paul), then perhaps they're not patched on Eris, but are just incompatible / working not as intended.
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He "found" it before ever seeing one of the phones, just a leaked rom. I think its a permissions issue that we may have overlooked in 2.1.
thawkth, about 5 minutes after he releases details, I will know if it applies to us.
I don't think anyone gives a damn about the bounty, if someone does contact caboose and pay him his dues (if he wants them), he got us the root.
I know that jcase isn't really haggin with us any more so hopefully someone will be following up with this, it sounds promising. I am keeping an eye on the OP over at modaco but I am not sure that I have the knowledge base to replicate Pual's work if he shares his exploit. Thanks
I too am hoping this guy can help us.. he is our last hope imo.... short of htc leaking something again.
Well there won't be any news today as we may have thought. Paul seems to stuck on his vacation for a few extra days thanks to the volcano.
http://twitter.com/paulobrien
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Well there won't be any news today as we may have thought. Paul seems to stuck on his vacation for a few extra days thanks to the volcano.
http://twitter.com/paulobrien
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lol.. little does he know the storm of users that are anxiously awaiting his return...
I'm wondering what is the manufacturers' goal of the devices being locked. No ability to change their **** software? Possible claims from unresponsible users?
I don't understand this world...
HTC Sense is piece of crap (changed it to n1 launcher, but it still occupies my phone's storage space),
HTC apps are piece of crap (calendar sucks, majority of widgets suck)... wish i was able to uninstall them..
Please give us root!
Some would say - buy n1 instead... but hey, I like the look of desire and it's optical trackball... if it has to be present anyway...
Dear Austin,
Congratulations on the new purchase of the HTC EVO 3D. We are more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand Austin. We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Locked devices will receive an over the air update from your service provider but as of yet no estimated time of the update release. We currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via our official website and official social media outlets.
Sincerely,
Brian
HTC
Notice what i bolded. Our "locked" device will recieve an OTA unlock!
Will have to wait patiently I guess..
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aray92 said:
Dear Austin,
Congratulations on the new purchase of the HTC EVO 3D. We are more than happy to be able to provide some clarity to the situation at hand Austin. We’re pleased to announce that we have heard everyone’s comments and constructive suggestions and have decided to go forward with this initiative. Locked devices will receive an over the air update from your service provider but as of yet no estimated time of the update release. We currently don’t have a schedule yet, but stay tuned; we will let you know via our official website and official social media outlets.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW27ENA000066.
Sincerely,
Brian
HTC
Notice what i bolded. Our "locked" device will recieve an OTA unlock!
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Awesome! That's all I needed to hear. A direct statement.
tweston1 said:
Awesome! That's all I needed to hear. A direct statement.
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This is what I have been waiting for!
Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4
Yea no ETA could be 6 months from now
Ryan00 said:
Yea no ETA could be 6 months from now
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Let's be a little more realistic. This should be within the next 27 days or HTC with have tons of EVO 3ds
Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4
Haha! Their Facebook page blew the f*ck up.
Hopefully all the feedback did work (again). I know I had my share. LOL. I honestly believe they will decrypt it for us. Just a matter of time.
Sent from the 3VO
As long as it is done before end of July. If not will likely return for the Sprint Galaxy S2. Think there should be an announcement from both Sprint and Samsung in the next few weeks with more details.
Bit would much rather keep my 3VO, with a ROM cooked up by Myn
Sent from my EVO-3D waiting for Myn's ROM
My guess is now that it has been made legit, even if the the OTA has no ETA everything will be AOK because some HTC QA tester will leak some keys to the locked bootloader to XDA on the DL ASAP.
The phone is smoking fast and sense 3.0 is great so I don't care how long it takes.....as long as it gets unlocked i'll be happy
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My guess is now that it has been made legit, even if the the OTA has no ETA everything will be AOK because some HTC QA tester will leak some keys to the locked bootloader to XDA on the DL ASAP.
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Acronym win!
Great news!
Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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sounds like a load of crap. I don't trust them. the facebook onslaught must continue.
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sounds like a load of crap. I don't trust them. the facebook onslaught must continue.
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Oh i agree. keep it going till its officially done and out for everyone.
If you accept an OTA to unlock the 3VO's bootloader, is it possible that Sprint can somehow disable wireless tethering even on a rooted device? I would think that they know what's up; everyone with a rooted device doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot.
sgt. slaughter said:
Yes this is great hopefully everyone will keep the bootloader htc emails in here and out of the dev section.
btw this was noted in the xHausx thread by me when I asked them why they didn't just toss it up on their site like xhausx suggested.
Their response(2days ago) was thats not how they want to do it and they are currently still developing the software to do such in a software update.
btw nice work, at least attempt at making a big stride in your thread in the Dev section. Nice to see people trying stuff!
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Thanks man. I really throught I had something going because build properties is a digital identity for adb that distinguishes production models from developmental ones.
Sent from a dual core beast 3VO. Do this on your iFail 4
RyanInAj said:
If you accept an OTA to unlock the 3VO's bootloader, is it possible that Sprint can somehow disable wireless tethering even on a rooted device? I would think that they know what's up; everyone with a rooted device doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot.
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NS4G doesn't have to pay $30 for hotspot...AND the phone comes unlockable out of the box.
I doubt Sprint cares that much....we are a relatively small minority of their total accounts and we are going to find a way to tether for free regardless of if we get unlocked or not.
Also isn't Sprint the only company that doesn't censor tether apps from the market? I'm pretty sure they also have an official 'non-anti-tether' stance.
...and that's to say nothing of the fact that we pay for our data service and who cares where our bits come from and go to? We pay for the transport of said bits...the contents, origination and destination should really be irrelevant.
Besides, I can saturate my wireless connection with pandora or a couple of downloads on my phone just as easily as I could by hooking it up to a computer.
EDIT: Either way, I don't think they could possibly prevent tethering without throwing multiple monkey wrenches into the works.
When i went to look at the phone the otherday on the 24th my sprint guy that i always deal with said u know they r unlocking the bootloader in 60 days right? An i was like no i thought it would already be unlocked he said he read somewhere 60 days to try an get ppl to stay with it
Now idk if this is true or not by the way this guy didnt know a thing on how to root untill i showed him now he flashes roms like crazy lol
Came from a friend on another forum:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
The person who sent the email responded asking why other people were getting vague emails that gave no certain answer on the future of the 3vos bootloader.
This is the return reply:
The bootloader will be unlocked, it's just a matter of when; we're trying to get it ready to release and hope to have this soon. Our official announcements, since this is a priority situation, will go directly to our social media outlets when they're ready (like the previous announcements). You'll hear about it when I do. I do hope that it is soon for you.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC
That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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That along with the evidence that the sensation is soon to be unlocked.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/htc-confirms-sensation-bootloader-unlocking-coming-soon/
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I don't see any evidence that their definition of soon matches with my definition of soon...it is a relative term, after all.
I'm going err on the side of caution, unfortunately. They have 2 weeks.
Regardless of time frame, we are all at the mercy of HTC sadly enough
The date on that link is June 17.
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stop with these threads i dont see any new information here.
if its that big of a deal return the phone so the people who are gonna keep it dont have to see these dumb threads.
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The date on that link is June 17.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I realize when the date is.
Everyone is rather impatient here. I understand it, but It is not like a company can output a perfect unlocked everything for a phone overnight without bricking a large number of them. It takes time.
I apologize for the repeat thread. Half these threads present have people up in arms and intending to return the phone. So I posted a new thread in hopes of lighting up the mood.
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I would imagine it has more to do with appeasing partners (read: Sprint) than it has to do with technical hurdles...though I'm sure there is still a redundantly redundant amount of testing involved. Most of it is probably policy and politics than anything else.
omgtheybetterfixitinthenexttwelvesecondsorimsogoingtoreturnthisphonegoddamn
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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i agree make it so the person knows what they are doing
I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
JasonM79 said:
They just need a way to do it.... How about PC only unlock ...not ota. That will help sort out the tards that can brick to those who want to tinker.
enjoying my EVO 3D. But root would be nice.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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If teamwin does it great. However I would be very surprised if there weren't strings attached to HTC's solution and no thanks to that. If the SGS2 would be announced for a pre-September release date the 3D is going back.
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Thats not how they are going to do it simple as that. I asked given xHausx suggested they just post up a firmware.zip on their site for those that wish to flash and get the ENG bootloader flashed and achieve s-off. Their response was that "...that is not the way they choose to fix the problem, and they will do so with a OTA software update.."
end of story is that it WILL get done, but there is no ETA as they NEVER provide ETA's specifically. And they do this b/c there is no telling what problems might arrise while developing the fix. If they said 2weeks and ran into an issue and got delayed then there would be another uproar tossed at them.
Also why when they say they are releasing a new OS update they usually say by the end of X qtr. so they have a TON of leway.
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he probably knows that he was just saying it might be better if they did it that way.
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I don't get the whole I'm taking my phone back in 2 weeks, if HTC doesn't have it unlocked. It's going to happen to the phone. Whether it's through HTC or teamwin or someone else, its going to happen. Be patient, these guys will come through for us.
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Well, in if that happens in 2 months from now you and the 3 remaining devs will have a blast I'm sure. This technology moves way too fast for delays like this. The first 30 days is a given, return period, time to root, etc...but this time we are up against heavy duty security for heavy duty securities sake.
While I do exaggerate a bit my point remains. We don't have time to wait as much as you think we do...developers want to develop, and when they put a commitment into a device, well, not being able to develop a god damned thing for that device is kinda a turn off. Few of our best ROM developers are also the low-level guys doing the heavy lifting and intense probing and testing required to attain root/s-off...there is an overlap, yes, but most of these guys just want to make a rom or work on a kernel, and that is to say nothing of the theme guys who operate as creative talent before technical talent...
This is an elaborate ecosystem of skills and talents here. If you happened to be one of us lucky ones in the EVO4G community from the beginning you should know that it was a bunch of coincidence and a pre-release root (and the happenstance of Sprint getting its first kickass superphone--now a regular event)...so don't expect that magic to sit around waiting for this phone to be opened up.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but that there were a lot of factors that went into it happening last time--just having a decent phone and a forum weren't what made it happen.
Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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Let me start by saying yes, I am dying to have root myself. I miss cm7, wireless tether, even stock themes, tb, and a whole list of things (my ORD is definitely flaring).
Now let me go on to my real point. All you "omg they have two weeks" people... Is the phone really that unusable as it is? My old hero, I couldn't live without root for overclocking. My shift originally ticked me off with crappy old sense, and then I didn't understand why they didn't make the new update sense 3.0. This phone, at least for now, is up to date, and blazing fast. Root is not a deal breaker on this phone for me like my past phones. And I hack everything... Wii, cr48, router... But I don't find it completely neutering on this phone like other devices
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It's a very capable phone, I agree. But it has far more potential than it has capability...and I didn't buy this phone to only be as capable as the phone it was replacing (a heavily modded EVO4G) with the only difference that I can actually see is a resolution difference.
Sure, we knew it would come locked. I knew I'd have this decision to make. It's a very capable phone. But it is also capable of so much more...that's what I want out of it. My 4G was doing everything at least as fast and with at least as good battery life with far more flexibility...
...the only reason I am so impatient is for the reason I posted above. If it doesn't happen relatively quickly the spark will fade rapidly. I feel very comfortable in the 30-day window. But as the 30 day window closes I am not going to be the only one who sizes up this situation and has to make a decision...more important than me and you and all of the other users there are the developers. The ones who provide the value-adding goodies that we love so much...without them we just have a phone like a million other phones, excuse me, that takes 3D pictures and/or Video...the only differentiating feature really....sure, HTC didn't sell a device that was intended to do the things I want to do with it--but it could...until they made it so it couldn't specifically...artificially...
You might not get it...if that's the case, congrats, this is the phone for you. No regrets. Rock on. But for me and what I would imagine are the majority of others here that is a deal breaker.....
@daneurysm: very, very well stated. I'm with you 100%
my email exchanges...
I have purchased your mogul,evo,and now evo3d. I would like to say that I love the evo3d, its an amazing device. But, if the bootloader isnt unlocked or rooted by the time my 30 days is up, I will be returning it. I feel as though I own the device, and used my hard earned money to buy it, and like a computer I should have access to it. I understand the consumer doesn't matter at all in todays corporate run world, but this is my stance, as is many others. I bought it, I own it, it is no longer yours or sprints as I'm not leasing it, I own it, its mine. Thanks, maybe.
their reply.
I certainly understand that you're looking for the bootloader of the EVO 3D to be unlocked. This is indeed something that we're working on, true to our word. We don't have a date set yet for when the update to do so will be available, but as this is a high priority situation when there is news on the subject it will be posted to our social media outlets, like our Facebook and our Twitter just as the previous announcement was. I hope that it is soon.
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Sincerely,
Philip
OK I am receiving a di4g today to replace my stratosphere which whent belly up. it is like new replacement
so I am confused. I see roms but i see things in the forum like "NO ROOT YET" so which is it.
I chose this over the nexus because I wanted a global phone and the repo told me it would be a global phone.
so I assume that it will have the update "yes?"
is that why there is no root yet.. ie the old one had a root the update does not.
can someone explain in nutshell the 'state of the phone'
Had root. Root go away. Root coming back soon.
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Had root. Root go away. Root coming back soon.
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Aptly put.
Also, the newest update allows our phone to be a used globally, but it didn't take away root, Verizon stopped allowing our phone to be unlocked via HTCDev a week after it came out. We're about to have S-OFF, which will re-enable root.
The first few weeks htc dev site allowed people to unlock their phones and install a recovery and roms. After that it was disabled and the reason is up for debate still. Recently an exploit has been found and root was achieved. Now people are just waiting on the tool to be released by that dev team that allows s off and root.
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ok so to whom do I donate to get the tool 'appreciated'
when I orders the phone i saw that it was rooted. an unrooted phone seems just awful. but i can us it that way for a while.
if it too long I will send it back and get a galaxy nexus, and forgo global and the ability to use my sd card
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ok so to whom do I donate to get the tool 'appreciated'
when I orders the phone i saw that it was rooted. an unrooted phone seems just awful. but i can us it that way for a while.
if it too long I will send it back and get a galaxy nexus, and forgo global and the ability to use my sd card
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to get the tool appreciated?
Please wait patiently...
others have been waiting for a while now, and not too mention this phone is basically Verizon's dead horse, so we are VERY lucky that I was able to even get the team to put in their free time to get the tool made.
They are making the tool. Root IS confirmed along with S-OFF.
ONCE the tool is SAFE, then they will release. THEN you can donate to their team, they specifically ask that you DO NOT donate until the tool IS released.
They are doing this on their free time for a phone they do not own.
I spent about 8+ hours total of my time as well with the team letting them remote access straight into the phone thanks to a root exploit found in the new 2.17xxx OTA update found by superdave, that I passed on to the team which they then were able to successfully attain S-OFF, on two Incredible 4G phones, one completely stock like yours, and one that was previously rooted by HTCDev unlock tool before that option got taken away.
The only thing you can do is to please wait patiently, and when the tool is released, please donate to them then. If you want to trade up for a Galaxy Nexus if the tool isn't released quick enough for you that's your choice, this is a great community though and we'd love to have you stay with us.
Thank you,
Andy.
dcooterfrog said:
ok so to whom do I donate to get the tool 'appreciated'
when I orders the phone i saw that it was rooted. an unrooted phone seems just awful. but i can us it that way for a while.
if it too long I will send it back and get a galaxy nexus, and forgo global and the ability to use my sd card
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andybones needs credit for raising the funds for a test phone then working with the group that will deliver S-OFF, helping nitsuj17 with 2 amazing ROMs, and patiently responding to everyone's questions. i'm not saying that we shouldn't donate to the S-OFF group, but andybones doesn't take credit, but credit is due.
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andybones needs credit for raising the funds for a test phone then working with the group that will deliver S-OFF, helping nitsuj17 with 2 amazing ROMs, and patiently responding to everyone's questions. i'm not saying that we shouldn't donate to the S-OFF group, but andybones doesn't take credit, but credit is due.
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i second that!
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andybones needs credit for raising the funds for a test phone then working with the group that will deliver S-OFF, helping nitsuj17 with 2 amazing ROMs, and patiently responding to everyone's questions. i'm not saying that we shouldn't donate to the S-OFF group, but andybones doesn't take credit, but credit is due.
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i second that!
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"Sorry, you are limited to 8 thanks per day" = lol or I'd give a proper "thanks"
Very much appreciated guys!
I only helped Nit with 1 ROM though and he did the majority of the work, and 100% of the next update on the new base thus far (he is killin it! and is a true pleasure for me to be able to work with.) so I can't take too much credit there, but I do appreciated the acknowledgment, you guys donated just as much as I did, I just spent the time with the guys, having a community as awesome and understanding as this one is like a once in a decade kinda thing :good:
It's hurting me just as badly not having the S-OFF tool out, I can't wait for everyone to be able to use their phone the way it's intended to be used..
the way you want it to be!!
I'm also very thankful to superdave for recognizing that the new RUU has an old exploit and the unlimited.io team are simply amazing people, as soon as I mentioned the exploit I asked them if it's something they could work with or had the time to check out, and without a pause they replied to install the RUU, and come back tmw (since they are in wayy tiff diff zone than myself) and the next 4 days straight the worked with me and are such nice people to work with and all the hours made it worth it looking down to see S-OFF, and knowing that what could have been a failed phone be what it deserves to be.
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to get the tool appreciated?
Please wait patiently...
others have been waiting for a while now, and not too mention this phone is basically Verizon's dead horse, so we are VERY lucky that I was able to even get the team to put in their free time to get the tool made.
They are making the tool. Root IS confirmed along with S-OFF.
Andy.
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I think my tone was taken the wrong way. by appreciated I meant I want to donate because I appreciate the work of devs.
i am patient and not trying to rush. I know not to ask for eta's (inst that rule 1) rule 2 is donate, rule 3 is always supply a log cats
o and this is less of a red headed step child than the stratosphere. (can't even get a forum on xda)
andybones said:
to get the tool appreciated?
Please wait patiently...Galaxy Nexus if the tool isn't released quick enough for you that's your choice, this is a great community though and we'd love to have you stay with us.
Thank you,
Andy.
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I have been on xda for a while now always helping when I could.
I actually think this phone is a better fit for me (global) , better camera and an removable storage and I am able to be patient. I was just confused when I saw roms and then saw posts saying no root yet. also I have not been pleased with my Samsung phone in the past. they feel cheap. i thought I would try the htc.
why can't all phone feel like the palm treos. nice small heavy
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dcooterfrog said:
I have been on xda for a while now always helping when I could.
I actually think this phone is a better fit for me (global) , better camera and an removable storage and I am able to be patient. I was just confused when I saw roms and then saw posts saying no root yet. also I have not been pleased with my Samsung phone in the past. they feel cheap. i thought I would try the htc.
why can't all phone feel like the palm treos. nice small heavy
treo
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hope I didn't come off as a **** or anything, very happy to have you here in the community! hopefully the tool is released sooner than later.
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hope I didn't come off as a **** or anything, very happy to have you here in the community! hopefully the tool is released sooner than later.
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you didn't I was worried I did. so thanks for the welcome to di4g
Thanks VZ!
Grow a pair HTC..
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Meaning, the 'all other devices' no longer works, since as was pointed out, it was never technically on the official list to begin with.
no fkidding?
need to verify before I cancel my pending pre-order.
I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
I'll likely cancel my pre-order too. This makes me sad, I was so exited about this device.
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I don't think it was ever on the list. The accounts I've read are of people selecting the "other supported devices" option.
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That method no longer works.
Should have been more clear.
We're already working on something.
Pleas don't get your undies in a bunch just yet.
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I can live with stock for a while... Just got mine today... a day early... But I can't play with it until I'm done work... If unrEVOked is working on it I have faith...
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This dont scarw me. I'm getting one. You got some of the best devs working on this.
As stated above, I am also totally willing to live with stock for a while. The great devs around here haven't let us down yet and I doubt they will now.:good:
God I hope so, I'm just picturing another OneX situation..
I figured this would happen sooner than later which is why I was going to pick one up tomorrow morning, but the night before is BS.
This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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Less than .001%, don't over think it. Phone hacking is a tiny community against the rest of of the world.
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and yet, VZ still wants us to bend over.
That's why I don't say any thing about HTCDev website. Once Verizon hears a device can be unlocked, its game over.
Pardon my complete ignorance. I've only had one HTC device before (Spouses TBolt), but I rooted it when I first got it and rooting instructions went live on XDA. What's the likelihood of rooting the DNA without having the HTCDev site unlocking it. Again, sorry if this is an elementary question.....
I am getting this phone tomorrow and give my S3 to the spouse, but I remember the wait before that phone was rooted, and it was agonizing. A Perm Root method came out literally on the 14th day, my last day to return it, so I got lucky. Do you think this will stunt development for this phone? I love using different, power-sipping kernels on to my devices.....
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This is like the Rezound all over again. By the time S-Off was possible, I had lost interest and never bought one. I guess I'll keep my GNex a while longer. As much as I want this phone tomorrow, I'll likely never buy it or any other HTC phone.......unless the dev's pop out in the next week or two with an unlock for the bootloader and S-Off, then I'll reconsider. I just wonder if VZW or HTC have a way of quantifying lost revenues due to locking the phones down.
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You do realize that a quality ROM will probably not be out for weeks. Not quite sure what you are looking to do the very first day with your bootloader / root. I am willing to wait a couple of weeks as I am sure the devs will figure it out.
I'm am so pissed, but this kind of thing happens every year when I upgrade. I'm still getting mine tomorrow, and just praying S-Off won't take as long to achieve like it did for the Rezound. Fingers Crossed
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Is anyone actually surprised by this? By most accounts, this was entirely expected given what has happened with some previous Verizon HTC devices. Like the Incredible 4G, which could be unlocked via the site before it was officially released, but once the release date actually rolled around, it no longer worked.
I prefer to have root just for wifi tether and titanium backup. Just so much easier to restore apps with it then to try and use each app's backup/restore process.
I'm not looking until Feb anyways, but definitely disappointing.
This seems like a deal breaker to me. I was all hyped up about this but not so much anymore.