I want to know if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
lovenokia said:
I want to if with the international lumia 920 will work with ATT 4g LTE
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_920-4967.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_900_at&t-4275.php
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I'm curious too. I refuse to buy the Lumia in black off of Rogers and the AT&T model is likely to be unlockable like the 900 was.
Add one more request to that. I'm not eligible for an upgrade until next year, so I'll be paying full price for my Lumia 920. I'd rather get the unbranded version if I go that route, since I won't have AT&T blocking any updates that they're notorious for doing.
Hopefully someone will answer this, that att logo looks ugly, and they block updates, so I need to know this, and two others too.
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It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
herzzreh said:
It will work fine -
http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/specifications
Operating Frequency
Frequency bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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Unless Nokia did something extraordinary, I really do not believe they will release the phone with 9 LTE bands.
The original specs was PentaBand LTE and the AT&T LTE Bands were missing. Meaning the international version will NOT work on AT&T's 4G LTE.
Please see my post here for more information.
Here's an interesting article about unlocked/international phones. I found it pretty informative.
http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57527428-85/how-phones-are-optimized-and-why-you-should-care-smartphones-unlocked/
I may just resign myself the AT&T version.
Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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lovenokia said:
Make a simple answer yes or no? The att lte phone have lte 2100 so does the international lumia 920.
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Yes. According to the current specs both have LTE at 2100Mhz.
Related
Want to get the s3 but want to make sure it works with TMobile.
No, you will only get edge speeds, no 3g.
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It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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shaft77 said:
It works for me. Bought my unbranded, non-simlocked phone in Europe. Visiting US now. Daily plan with T-Mobile works fine for me.
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And you are getting 3g speeds??
I doubt that, the international version doesn't have the frequency for tmo's 3g.
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i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
lgkahn said:
i also tried my att i747 sgs iii after i unlocked it with a t mobile sim.. works but also only get edge.. maybe it would work if i flashed the t mobile modem?
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Sorry I pressed thanks instead of quote.
No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
Edit:
USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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Sorry I pressed thanks instead of quote.
No, its nothing to do with the modem. If it was, people all over the world would be buying devices from other countries.
The fact is the international GSM version only works on the frequencies its designed to work on. This is a hardware limitation and no amount of software will resolve that.
International frequencies are different to USA frequencies and as such, devices not designed for the USA will not work to their full potential in the USA.
UK (international) uses 900 Mhz/1800Mhz GSM/3G where as USA T-mob uses 1900Mhz GSM and 2100Mhz 3G.
Because the International GSM quad band device is:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz...
The GSM and 2G function works on 1900 (T-mob) but has no way to use 2100 for 3G as its not physically possible
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USA Carrier Voice Frequencies (MHz) 3G 4G Notes
AT&T 850 (Band 5)/ 1900(Band 2) 850 / 1900 Band 17 (700MHz)/AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
MetroPCS 1900 / AWS 1900 / AWS AWS CDMA
Sprint 1900 1900 2500 / 1900 G-Block CDMA
T-Mobile USA 1900 AWS(1700/2100 MHz)/PCS (1900) AWS (1700/2100 MHz) GSM
Verizon 800 / 1900 800 / 1900 700 / AWS CDMA (GSM for 4G)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
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yes i agree for international version.. but if you read closer i DONT have the international version but the att version.. and as far as i know all the usa versions are the same with just diff. modems.
The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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The international version will work in areas where T-Mobile is refarming 1900mhz to 3G. However this is only happening in parts of the coasts. I'm using it in Ohio and getting EDGE only. That said, it isn't too bad.
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Erm, it's being tested in some coastal areas, but the 3g/hspa+ over the 1900 band is slated to go live on the majority of the network by the end of the year.
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No service HELP or clairfication PLEASE
I purchased a Tinji i9300. I have been working on this for over 3 weeks. I have no service with T-mobile. It recognizes my SIM card as T-mobile. In Engineer Mode, my bands are, EGSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900, GSM850, WCDMA-IMT-2000. I have tried numerous ROMs (stock and custom) and have rooted the phone. I have changed the IMEI. No service at all. Any thoughts? Band issue? T-mobile issue? Possible solution? **** out of luck? :crying:
Thank you!
Hello people. I just watched the press release on the Nokia Lumia 920 and I must admit it looks really enticing. The design is beautiful and for some reason WP8 seems like it could be a very productive device. I just wanted to get your thoughts on it, also I don't think it will come to Verizon but none the less seems like a really awesome phone!
kpkimmel said:
Hello people. I just watched the press release on the Nokia Lumia 920 and I must admit it looks really enticing. The design is beautiful and for some reason WP8 seems like it could be a very productive device. I just wanted to get your thoughts on it, also I don't think it will come to Verizon but none the less seems like a really awesome phone!
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Wrong Forum but Personally i all around like the look of the Lumia 900 better. I hate the gloss and the 900 just look more appealing except the fact its running WP7
None of it matters if WP8 doesn't stick. As of right now, Windows Phone is a failed OS, and as someone who has been burned by previous failed OSes (WebOS, for example) you couldn't pay me enough to be an early adopter.
What bands do the Lumia 920 support?
tekhna said:
None of it matters if WP8 doesn't stick. As of right now, Windows Phone is a failed OS, and as someone who has been burned by previous failed OSes (WebOS, for example) you couldn't pay me enough to be an early adopter.
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What I find confusing is the bands supported. By 2100Mhz, do they mean IMT (2100/1900) or AWS (2100/1700) ?
I wonder where in NA it could be used then... no 700Mhz neither.
lbarouf said:
What I find confusing is the bands supported. By 2100Mhz, do they mean IMT (2100/1900) or AWS (2100/1700) ?
I wonder where in NA it could be used then... no 700Mhz neither.
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This is the full list of bands it supports.
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 800
LTE 900
LTE 1800
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
agp64 said:
This is the full list of bands it supports.
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 800
LTE 900
LTE 1800
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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So if I understand this correctly, it implies no T-mobile US (other than 2G)?
agp64 said:
This is the full list of bands it supports.
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 800
LTE 900
LTE 1800
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
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Can someone explain to me that whether this phone can support Verizon CDMA/LTE network or not? Sorry for my novice question. I am not a super techie person
The specifications of the Hong Kong version of Lumia 920 was officially released, here is the bands it supports according to Nokia Hong Kong Website:
Bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
Does this mean that the HK version can be used for AWS network such as Wind Mobile and T-mobile? I think the HK version is neither locked nor branded.
riohuang said:
The specifications of the Hong Kong version of Lumia 920 was officially released, here is the bands it supports according to Nokia Hong Kong Website:
Bands
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
WCDMA Band V (850)
WCDMA Band VIII (900)
WCDMA Band IV (1700)
WCDMA Band II (1900)
WCDMA Band I (2100)
LTE 700
LTE 800
LTE 850
LTE 900
LTE 1700
LTE 1800
LTE 1900
LTE 2100
LTE 2600
Does this mean that the HK version can be used for AWS network such as Wind Mobile and T-mobile? I think the HK version is neither locked nor branded.
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wow, the HK version supports north america LTE bands too....
I am wondering if I could get the Europe/Asia LTE bands on my Rogers Lumia 920
btw, The HK version is unlocked.
sure it does
if the box says 1700/2100 then it should support T-Mobile and Wind. I got mine unlocked from Rogers (with the stupid Rogers splash screen >_<), and it works perfectly on Wind, because on the box it specifies 1700/2100. People argue that those black 920s are the leftovers from Build, and got sent to carriers to sell, who knows. GL getting your pentaban 920 ^_^
Don't get to exited on the information on the Nokia website.
Exactly the same situation applies with the Nokia France and Germany websites. They do list the Nokia 920 with PentaBand 3G and 9 bands of LTE however the retail box for both the German and the France models only list QuadBand 3G and Pentaband LTE.
Until someone actually get one of those models and test them in USA or Canada we cannot tell whats the real deal with the Lumia 920 frequencies...
We can only hope this is true! And that it's firmware can be flashed on the Rogers one, and that would fix tethering issues etc.!!
I got a chance to purchase the vzw gs4 for $250 under a one year contract for very good plans
Wondering if the contract expires, will i be able to use other gsm carriers?
AFAIK, i545 should come unlocked and can be used on att hspa and tmo lte(band4), am i right?
Just wondering if i545 has lte band 17 for att, or has anybody tried putting an att sim to i545 yet?
Another question I know verizon is notorious for not pushing timely system updates, but how far are the custom roms from the 9505g rom?
Thanks for your input
i saw in the 9500 dev section somebody wasn't able to enable tmob lte for this model which seems wired
has anybody tried att sim card?
Why is the thread moved automatically to Q/A section though
michael3770 said:
i saw in the 9500 dev section somebody wasn't able to enable tmob lte for this model which seems wired
has anybody tried att sim card?
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A simple search would tell you that many of us have used non-VZ SIM cards. The phone is SIM-unlocked.
Here's the bands that the Verizon S4 has:
LTE 750 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
[from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4066 ]
T-Mobile uses 1700 for LTE, so there appears to be a match.
For AT&T, 700, 1700, 2300 for LTE. 1700 is the common band.
[from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks ]
k1mu said:
A simple search would tell you that many of us have used non-VZ SIM cards. The phone is SIM-unlocked.
Here's the bands that the Verizon S4 has:
LTE 750 / 1700
WCDMA 850 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA 850 / 1900
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
[from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4066 ]
T-Mobile uses 1700 for LTE, so there appears to be a match.
For AT&T, 700, 1700, 2300 for LTE. 1700 is the common band.
[from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks ]
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I don't the bands on phonescoop is correct
samsung listed i545 to have LTE band 4 which is 1700/2100
One other thread mentioned Tmobile LTE cannot achieved on this model, only hspa
Att use Band 4,17, not 2300 for LTE
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to hack the radio as they did for i535
michael3770 said:
I don't the bands on phonescoop is correct
samsung listed i545 to have LTE band 4 which is 1700/2100
One other thread mentioned Tmobile LTE cannot achieved on this model, only hspa
Att use Band 4,17, not 2300 for LTE
I'm just wondering if anyone has tried to hack the radio as they did for i535
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OK, so here's a reliable source - Samsung. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I545ZWAVZW-specs
LTE: Bands 4/13 (Band 4 is 1700 MHz, band 13 is 700 MHz)
CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev.A: 800/1900MHz
HSPA+/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I don't understand the various 1700 MHz band allocations, so I can't say if Tmo's band 4 is compatible with VZ's band 4 radio.
"Hack the radio" meant enabling radios that were built in to the phone which VZ disabled. I don't think that's the case with the VZ S4.
k1mu said:
I don't understand the various 1700 MHz band allocations, so I can't say if Tmo's band 4 is compatible with VZ's band 4 radio.
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as far as I know there aren't various 1700MHz allocations. In such case, every allocation must have their own band, like Band 2 and Band 25. Both of them are in the 1900MHz but with diferent allocations.
So any LTE Band 4 enable device should work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
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dennis5pia said:
as far as I know there aren't various 1700MHz allocations. In such case, every allocation must have their own band, like Band 2 and Band 25. Both of them are in the 1900MHz but with diferent allocations.
So any LTE Band 4 enable device should work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
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That's what I thought
according to this post it's not i don't know why
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400799
michael3770 said:
That's what I thought
according to this post it's not i don't know why
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400799
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According to this post it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44206677&postcount=20
Bottom line any LTE band 4 enable device will work in any LTE band 4 carrier.
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It seems like the Samsung Galaxy Alpha has all the necessary bands to be used with AT&T in the US. But does anyone know for sure? If Samsung takes too long to release this in America can I buy the UK version and use it in the US?
Thanks
derekmarch said:
It seems like the Samsung Galaxy Alpha has all the necessary bands to be used with AT&T in the US. But does anyone know for sure? If Samsung takes too long to release this in America can I buy the UK version and use it in the US?
Thanks
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Bump. I have the same question.
GSM Arena says this about the device:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
If what wikipedia says, AT&T uses the following frequencies:
2G: 850 / 1900.
3G: 850 / 1900.
4G: 700 block B (main frequency) / 1700 AWS / 1900 / 2300.
So, if I read correctly, you can use the international Alpha for 2&3G, but for LTE, you are covered only by one LTE band, 1900, and this being not a main frequency, won't have good coverage everywhere, I think.
sirobelec said:
GSM Arena says this about the device:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
If what wikipedia says, AT&T uses the following frequencies:
2G: 850 / 1900.
3G: 850 / 1900.
4G: 700 block B (main frequency) / 1700 AWS / 1900 / 2300.
So, if I read correctly, you can use the international Alpha for 2&3G, but for LTE, you are covered only by one LTE band, 1900, and this being not a main frequency, won't have good coverage everywhere, I think.
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Does this pertain to HSPA+ too?
blairh said:
Does this pertain to HSPA+ too?
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HSPA+ is 3G, so you shouldn't have problems with it.
sirobelec said:
HSPA+ is 3G, so you shouldn't have problems with it.
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So I'd get HSPA+ anywhere I'd get it from an AT&T phone, just not LTE necessarily?
blairh said:
So I'd get HSPA+ anywhere I'd get it from an AT&T phone, just not LTE necessarily?
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Yes. If it was me to make the decision, I'd want my phone with an unlocked bootloader, HSPA+ is good enough speed for me.
Though, practically, I've never tested LTE in my life, until recently we didn't have any 4G networks.
International Galaxy Alpha NO US LTE on ATT or TMO
derekmarch said:
It seems like the Samsung Galaxy Alpha has all the necessary bands to be used with AT&T in the US. But does anyone know for sure? If Samsung takes too long to release this in America can I buy the UK version and use it in the US?
Thanks
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I bought an unlocked international/Euro Galaxy Alpha SM-G850F at the London Samsung store... Installed my USA ATT SIM and have no prob w. calls or H or H+ data but can NOT get LTE band in the USA on either ATT or TMO even though the device seems to have the right bands for ATT or TMO LTE. On advice from an ATT Wireless store manager, I updated my APN settings to match ATT setup but still did not get LTE. FYI my H+ is quite fast for most purposes but I want LTE. Hope that answers your question.... Mine is how can I get LTE???
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I bought an unlocked international/Euro Galaxy Alpha SM-G850F at the London Samsung store... Installed my USA ATT SIM and have no prob w. calls or H or H+ data but can NOT get LTE band in the USA on either ATT or TMO even though the device seems to have the right bands for ATT or TMO LTE. On advice from an ATT Wireless store manager, I updated my APN settings to match ATT setup but still did not get LTE. FYI my H+ is quite fast for most purposes but I want LTE. Hope that answers your question.... Mine is how can I get LTE???
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Are you sure the European version has correct U.S. LTE bands? I was under the impression that it does not....
stevensmiami said:
I bought an unlocked international/Euro Galaxy Alpha SM-G850F at the London Samsung store... Installed my USA ATT SIM and have no prob w. calls or H or H+ data but can NOT get LTE band in the USA on either ATT or TMO even though the device seems to have the right bands for ATT or TMO LTE. On advice from an ATT Wireless store manager, I updated my APN settings to match ATT setup but still did not get LTE. FYI my H+ is quite fast for most purposes but I want LTE. Hope that answers your question.... Mine is how can I get LTE???
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Are you sure the European version has correct U.S. LTE bands? I was under the impression that it does not....
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Originally Posted by sirobelec
GSM Arena says this about the device:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
If what wikipedia says, AT&T uses the following frequencies:
2G: 850 / 1900.
3G: 850 / 1900.
4G: 700 block B (main frequency) / 1700 AWS / 1900 / 2300.
So, if I read correctly, you can use the international Alpha for 2&3G, but for LTE, you are covered only by one LTE band, 1900, and this being not a main frequency, won't have good coverage everywhere, I think.
I am trying to solve this also.
I think that the Euro Version with the Exynos does not have the proper LTE Bands for North America LTE.
But the Qualcomm version does, though not sure about
TMobile.
I am looking at this from Canada GSM for $ 549. Factory Unlocked with following Bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G & LTE 2100, 1900, 1800, 1700, 2600, 700, 850
Obviously for AT&T you just buy theirs.
I have read that the EXYNOS versions do not function in North America on LTE.
With all phones it seems that you must be very very
Specific about Model Numbers including Suffixes etc.
Especially SAMSUNG loves to make 24 versions of ALPHA, 50 versions of S4 etc.
Frequency Bands are a real WTF for amateurs like me:
For example are there TWO DIFFERENT 1700 bands, one for4G LTE and one for 3G , HSPA + or are they the SAME BAND with dual usage ?
In example ABOVE the Alpha Factory Unlocked Canada GSM @$ 549.
IF used for TMobile the LTE Bands look fine, but the 3G
1700 Band is not there. Will 3G merely use the 1700 LTE
band or does the SOC ( QUALCOMM) need to have
allocated the 1700 band for dual usage LTE and.3G
?