[Q] Undervolting AND overclocking? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know undervolting can help with battery drainage (say if you undervolt by 75) but is that actually "good" per se when also having overclocked? I currently have no undervolt or overclock but I can't help wondering since many have both UV'd and OC'd.

I doubt it, when I was uv and and not even oc, my phone got real hot quickly when playing games.
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Theshawty said:
I know undervolting can help with battery drainage (say if you undervolt by 75) but is that actually "good" per se when also having overclocked? I currently have no undervolt or overclock but I can't help wondering since many have both UV'd and OC'd.
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Nice try.

The main advantage to undervolting is less heat, as we all know the more current passes through something, the hotter it gets so obviously less current = (slightly) less heat.
There are battery savings to be had but I don't know how much.
I don't think we need to talk about overclocking.
Nor sure what drugs the guy above me with the picture is on.
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The main advantage to undervolting is less heat, as we all know the more current passes through something, the hotter it gets so obviously less current = (slightly) less heat.
There are battery savings to be had but I don't know how much.
I don't think we need to talk about overclocking.
Nor sure what drugs the guy above me with the picture is on.
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I know that, but is undervolting good together with ocerclocking? I mean, if less current passes through the CPU, can it really bring out 1600 MHz? (if I were to overclock to that)

usually overclocking requires higher voltage to be stable.
when you try to push the cpu to clock faster than it is designed for, it requires more power to do so. (the voltage signal is degraded, like shouting over a waterfall, you need to shout louder to differentiate the V-high and V-low).
that is why you can undervolt the lower freqencies more than the higher one.

Not always true. I use -100mV on all steps. Perfectly fine because the voltage isnt the same across the board, but the UV is.
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anyone else getting low quadrant acores?

Originally my phone averaged about 3250 but now I can't even get 3100. Anyone know a fix for this?
Why do you worry about the quadrant scores do much? All it does is give you an approximate score everytime.
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geko95gek said:
Why do you worry about the quadrant scores do much? All it does is give you an approximate score everytime.
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all I'm worried about is the drop in performance. It could have affected something other than my quadrant score
abraxo said:
all I'm worried about is the drop in performance. It could have affected something other than my quadrant score
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It wouldn't matter, since quadrant is pretty meaningless nowadays. It could just have been an extra app that is running in the background. Simple as that lol
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If you are worried about lower synthetic benchmark scores, load cm7 nightlies. I can get 5000 without any tricks out of the box with the cpu OC'd at 1.6GHz. If you don't perceive any slowness or excess battery drain and the scores themselves don't mean anything to you then don't sweat it.
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all I'm worried about is the drop in performance. It could have affected something other than my quadrant score
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does it FEEL slower? does it lag? if not, then dont worry about it.
Is it still low if you run it a few times? Third run is usually the highest for me. The fact that the phone still has scores over 3,000 is incredible. Worry when it dips into the 1,000s.
In the end, Quadrant scores don't matter too much. It's all about how it feels during every day use. Does your phone lag now? I doubt it. Scores are affected by many things, including how many apps you have installed or are currently running in the background. In addition, scores can be easily manipulated!
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does it FEEL slower? does it lag? if not, then dont worry about it.
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+1 on this. Unless I notice a change in something whether it's UI response or certain Apps lagging or taking longer than usual to open, I won't do anything based simply on my Quad scores. They seem way too inconsistent as it is running them back to back multiple times.
I did close all the apparently but the phone is still lagging.
So the phone is lagging? Examples of some symptoms?
If you haven't rooted or done anything to it, take it back to AT&T and let them take a look at it.

[Q] CM9 0.2.0 SetCPU and Undervolt Settings. Recommendations?

Hi everyone,
So I'm super excited to have CM9 now that the camera is working. So far it's been a great experience. I just want to make sure that I'm getting the best performance and battery life.
Here are my SetCPU settings. I was wondering if someone could look them over and let me know if there is any room for improvement.
SetCPU
Main Profile: 216 min 1300 max
Screen off profile: 216 min 750 max
Battery<50% Profile: 216 min 1000 max
I was thinking about maybe adding some profiles for CPU and Battery temperatures since my phone gets hot when I'm using GPS and I'm afraid of damaging something. Any thoughts?
Also in the undervolt tab of SetCPU I have each category set to -50mV. I'm not that well versed with undervolting so any additional tips may help.
Thanks in advance.
-D
Welcome to the Awesome Club! As for the screen off i personally have mine at 456 max and have little to no issues, the only time I have a problem is if im streaming music in background when screens off it will occasionally freeze on me. But you can deff bring that down from 1000 max, i personally run my max processor main speed at 1000 just because there isnt really a need, for me atleast, to run it at 1300 lol just kills battery quicker, heats up phone, and its beyond snappy for me at 1000. As for undervolting, i personally gave up on it, i never saw a massive difference. The highest you can UV the Tegra2 is -100mV at any given clock speed. As for temps bringing your clock speeds down will lower your temps for sure, as long as your under 50 Celsius your pretty good from what ive seen around. As for the adding more profiles, its just adding more crap running in the background lol the only one I personally run is the screen off. If i feel the phone getting too hot I manually check temps via SetCPU and if its getting to be an issue back down the processor for a few.
Instead of typing all my profiles out, I just took a screenshot instead (go go just waking up lazy ness)
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I've also got everything UV'd 100mv, but like w0lf215 said, I'm not 100% sure it makes a huge difference.
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[Q] Low speed when Its hot!!?

Im expecting a low speed in my phone when its hot.
For example, if I'm playing a game and reach a high temperature, SXS becomes low ( frame rate decrease considerably...)
Tested with need for speed and Nba JAM for example.
Do you expects the same issues?
Thanks
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this is not an issue...
if your cumputer running hot, your comupter also became laggy... its because when the device running hot, your device is on max CPU/RAM usage
I don't agree with that.
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Do you think 40 Celsius degrees is too hot?
And what about cpu at 810mhz?
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40 degrees is that all? I've had previous phones go to 50+
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The Processor will scale its self back to protect from thermal damage, just like a PC does.
40 deg does seam a bit low but TBH there is no heat sinks or heat fans ect to dissipate the heat so you may find that 40 deg is where the hardware testers found was safe and stable before the hardware went into thermal runaway. (cant stay at a stable temp just gets hotter and hotter)
what app is that i'll run it on all my phones and see what it says
food for thought
Pvy.
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The Processor will scale its self back to protect from thermal damage, just like a PC does.
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This.
The Xperia S seems to be programmed to keep internal temperatures under 40 degrees C. If it hits 40 degrees, it'll slow down charging rates, lower processor clocks, cut down the GPU... Basically whatever it takes to keep those temps at a level that the Sony engineers deemed an ideal limit.
Once it cools down, it'll be back to 100%.
It's not an issue, it's intentional on Sony's part.

[S][CHAT] When heated, perfomance lower

Hi all of you guys.
I just noticed when i play some games for a while on my xperia s,
FPS and overall speed dropdown, phone get laggy more and more.
I run benchmark test with quadrant and antutu.
There is 2 situation with both.
1. HOT - after playing games
2. Cold - wake up from stand by and run bench
Also did anyone else noticed this kind of problem?
Here is the results...
1. HOT
Quadrant bench
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2. COLD
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System Info.
Android: 4.0.4
Kernel: 3.0.8+
Baseband:314010-15
Build number:6.1.A.0.452
known issue already, nothing to really worry about.. just don't use the processor to its max for now Sony will update the fw again soon i think..
While I haven't run benchmarks when the device is hot nor do I play many games on it I do feel the overall system starts to slow down and lag when the device gets hot. But then again every phone seems to do that, at least in my experience.
its normal behaviour on desktop PCs.. the processor slows down from like 1,5ghz to 800mhz or something like that to cool down and to not get damaged.. and the reboot issues when hot are just like bluescreens on windows ..
There is an app in the system called powersavemodule.apk that control the cpu when it's hot.
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OMG? issue? srsly?
kill com.sonyericsson.psm.thermalservice and try again
Yakandu said:
OMG? issue? srsly?
kill com.sonyericsson.psm.thermalservice and try again
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And maybe the phone will explode like S3
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OMG? issue? srsly?
kill com.sonyericsson.psm.thermalservice and try again
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Antutu strange results

Morning all!
Just downloaded antutu and keep getting scores between 8 -9000. Seems weird and other s3 users stock get 12000? Is there something wrong with my phone?
It also says that my cpu is a triple core arm7?
Thanks
Jonny
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Long shot, but you're not in power saving mode by any chance are you?
if you are running the benchmarks when the temp is high ,then it will result in lower scores.
pls post your questions in Q & A section
Remove any cup related apps like setcpu and restart
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I am getting 10k plus , am I missing anything ? by the way how's the credibility of antutu ?
Benchmark results depends upon how free your CPU is for ex: if you have rebooted your phone and instantly ran a benchmark you will attain low scores because CPU is busy loading apps and caching memory,also if you have lots of apps running in background will adversely affect scores.Whenever I run Quadrant right after booting my phone I get 5200 and few hours later it jumps to 5500! it clearly shows CPU needs some time to idle completely.
Dont use Antutu it sucks.Use quadrant it takes less time and gives better results.
If every thing is fine then you should see scores like that
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AntuTu pretty consistent .
But as noted results vary i like to clear all programs and ram running start AnTuTu and carry out five tests taking highest as best .
Current average across all roms is around the 12100 mark .
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