I really like this phone but want to make sure that the LTE connection issues are able to be fixed with a software update. I hope Sprint isn't BS'ing on this. I have a couple of days to return the phone and want to make sure this is fixable before deciding to keep it.
Anyone know if the Sprint rep who said it's a software issue is telling the truth or BS?
At heart it is a good radio. No reason it shouldn't work as it's supposed to. So, the majority of the issue is software. And it is fixable. Maybe just as good as S3 and iPhone 5 LTE reception?
The big question here is if Sprint will actually fix it this time. Know that there were fixes for LTE in 2 previous ota's. To what extent they worked on it before, idk. Thinking that this time is make or break it.
So, the answer is wait and see. U can get out of contract if LTE doesn't work for u though. It's apart of your service plan. Gonna require persistence on your part to get out after the 14 days is up, but u can do it.
If I were u and needed a good LTE capable phone, I'd go with the S3. Because at this point, it is up in the air if it will receive LTE like it should in the near future.
Correction first update was wifi, second was lte lol
Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
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celticking said:
Hope so. Has to be software related since both this and the s3 have the same radio. And, since the airplane mode on/off trick gets it working, I'm lead to believe its software.
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Airplane mode trick???
I really hope they can fix this. I decided to keep the phone after looking at the S3 screen and build quality I just couldn't switch. I really love the screen on this!! It is just as good as my wife's iPhone 5 in color reproduction. The S3 is nice but don't like PenTile as I can notice it and I don't like it when whites have a blue color to it.
The Evo LTE has the same SoC as the S3. If the Evo was having hardware problems with LTE so would the S3, but that is not the case (according to what I have been able to look up). Therefore it can be concluded that the LTE issues are software and not hardware.
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AKA Airplane Mode Dance
If you are in an LTE area and your phone is stuck on 3G, or if your phone is on LTE and it drops back down to 3G, then toggling Airplane Mode ON and back OFF will make the radio scan and re-latch to LTE.
That's the problem with our EVOs, it's an LTE threshold and handoff problem.
I live right on the edge of LTE coverage, so my phone will handoff to 3G because it decides the LTE signal is too weak. The problem is, in my area a "weak" LTE signal is MUCH faster than a strong 3G signal. If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long. So the signal is there, albeit weak.
What we need is a software fix that will change our radio's signal threshold so that it will prioritize a weaker LTE signal over 3G.
I'm tired of doing the airplane mode dance. If LTE is available, I want my EVO to latch on and stay on it even if it's weak.
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I use to get spotty LTE here in san Antonio so I thought it was the radio. But now I've been getting it pretty consistantly everywhere. So now I'm starting to think its there towers or something
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If I go into my radio options and choose "LTE only" it will hold LTE signal all day long.
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Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
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Any way to do this on sense? I've only got lte/cdma and cdma only options
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Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
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Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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Can you link it? I'm finding various apps named "network" something or another but none with just that solely as the title
The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
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Using a Sense ROM, open your phone dialer and type *#*#4636#*#*
Select "Phone Information" then scroll down to "Preferred Network Type" and that should give you the option you're looking for
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Or download the app "network" from playstore. Let's u do the same thing while less obtrusive and gives u more options.
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The icon changed so I had a bit of trouble finding it but here you go Network app
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Thanks guys! Installing app now and have the data code saved for a rainy day as well
Edit : after switching to lte only, I get no data (voice or sms) but im able to run a speed test using 4g. I live in L.A. but I connect to an Albuquerque, New Mexico server I'm not sure what else I'm to do to enable lte only and keep data
It's NOT true for me that switching it to LTE only will keep it connected. I still only keep the connection for about 10 seconds and then it goes back to 3G. My understanding is that option in both *#*#4634#*#* and ##DATA# is "preferred mode." It will drop back to 3G.
And I know for sure that Sprint and HTC have an open ticket on this issue of aquiring and keeping an LTE signal. They will eventually get a fix out for it.
I used the network tool post earlier and set mine to cdma/lte... So I get 4g and voice/text.. no evdo. Which is fine by me because evdo sucks anyway lol.
Works great I now can keep 4g in my house like my gfs gs3 and not switch back to crap-do
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Someone try the 10/21 build of cm10 from deck.
I'm holding lte and seeing it places I couldn't get it before even when set to lte only.
This has completely corrected the issue for me.
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I've been having this problem probably once a day since I've gotten the phone where my phone will lose data signal while switching between 3G and LTE and the only way to get data back is to restart the phone. Turning airplane mode on and off won't work either.
Ive had that issue too..but most of the time it switches back n forth no problem
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I've been having this problem probably once a day since I've gotten the phone where my phone will lose data signal while switching between 3G and LTE and the only way to get data back is to restart the phone. Turning airplane mode on and off won't work either.
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I haven't noticed any data problems until today. I am unable to connect to 3G. We do not have 4G in my area.
These problems are probably bugs in the LTE System.
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jbh00jh said:
These problems are probably bugs in the LTE System.
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why should bugs in the LTE system affect 3G?
the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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oh that's really interesting. thanks for that little bit of info. had no idea.
Same problem with it dropping data signal and never coming back without restart. At least now i know its not a hardware issue
I've had the same problem lately
~John
damn.. i was actually hoping this was a small problem with a simple solution... everything else about the phone is perfect except for this one problem.
Having the same issue here....when switching to cdma I get no 3G just 1X.....hope they find a fix soon
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same here guys. call Verizon and let them know. I think it helps if a bunch of us make them aware.
I've had a ton of weird data issues with the Rezound. I get 1x where i should get 3g, i get 3g where i should get 4g and i get nothing way too often.
I've only had this happen once with the rezound. Shows nothing but bars, no data can be used. Sometimes switching to 3g or 4g in lte on/off helps.
Had this problem intermittently on both my wife's and my bolts, completely agree its just a lte being a new tech issue.
I've listened to a podcast on how the handoff works and its definitely not fool proof.
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the 3G our phones use is not exactly the same as standard 3G unless you force your phone into EVDO 3G via the ##778 menu. which if you are not in a 4g zone I would recommend simply for stability. The 3G our phones use is basically a layer between 3G and LTE as I've had it explained to me.. I really don't know much else about it though, sorry. I'm sure someone else here can shine more light on it however.
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Im in Lawton Oklahoma and I'm not gonna c 4G till 2013 and I'll be pcs before that.
Now I access the ##778 menu in edit mode and what do I do to force EVDO 3G?
Rocking and Loving My Unbelievable Crazy ReZound
Dial ##778#, call
edit mode
password is 000000
modem settings
Rev. A
select "enable"
menu > commit
phone will reboot and you should get 3G back
This changes your network from eHRPD back to EVDO Rev.A. For LTE phone owners, eHRPD causes 3G to die (most of the time anyway) when the LTE network has problems. Get back on normal EVDO and you're good to go.
^ from Jntdroid on another forum (not sure if we're allowed to post to other forums here) I'm not positive on where he got it from, but this is a capability of all HTC 4G phones
I've had occasional issues with being down to 1X, but even that was only during nationwide 4G network issues, definitely get in touch with VZW about that... not that they have enough sense to fix anything *sigh*
Data Connection slow to Acquire (3G/LTE)
If I'm on the subway, or somewhere with no service, then come above ground, I get voice (full bars) but no data -- it could take upwards of 3 minutes+ for data to come back up. Any thoughts?
I've been losing my 3G service throughout my city, being restricted to 1x so many times lately where I SHOULD be getting 3G!(4G isnt available in my area yet). It's really annoying...perhaps nexus isnt theeee only one...
^should I try calling and programing what the user implied? Again, I am not in a 4G area...
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I've been losing my 3G service throughout my city, being restricted to 1x so many times lately where I SHOULD be getting 3G!(4G isnt available in my area yet). It's really annoying...perhaps nexus isnt theeee only one...
^should I try calling and programing what the user implied? Again, I am not in a 4G area...
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Same issue as you. I live in a 3G area only and my 3G drops out a lot. Even a reboot doesn't get it back. Not sure what to do :/
my friend has an iphone 3gs and we're both on the same carrier. she gets way way better reception with her iphone and i am wondering why. i read a couple threads that suggest the antennae of the evo being at the bottom being the problem cause when you hold it your hand blocks the signal, however if i place both phones side by side and not even touch them the iphone signal is still a lot better. how is it that a nearly 3 year old phone smashes a modern day smart phone in terms of reception?
Are both phones using the same speed of network? I didn't think the iphone 3gs did the 3G or 4G? I thought it was only a 2G phone.
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Are both phones using the same speed of network? I didn't think the iphone 3gs did the 3G or 4G? I thought it was only a 2G phone.
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yes both using 3G, the original iphone only had 2G. the iphone 3G and up have both
Try upgrading your radio,profile and prl. Also you can try this to see if it will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
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laie1472 said:
Try upgrading your radio,profile and prl. Also you can try this to see if it will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153371
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what do you mean by profile and prl if you can be bothered to explain?
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what do you mean by profile and prl if you can be bothered to explain?
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You go to settings > update > profile/prl
Prl tells the phone about any new towers that are available in your area.
I think profile... No, still don't know what profile does.
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Datguy_n_Disguy said:
You go to settings > update > profile/prl
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eh? settings as in on the phone.. and then "update" ? i aint got no update thing in settings, could you be specific?
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she gets way way better reception with her iphone and i am wondering why.
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How do you know? By the signal meter? The signal meter on a phone is a joke. Like the battery meter on some phones (which show full until it drops like a rock and dies), the signal meter can be falsified as well. The iPhone on AT&T shows a 4g connection even though it only uses their 3g network. On the stock Rom, our evo3d shows a 3g connection even if it is only 1x. I would test bandwidth using Speedtest and if those are comparable, then don't sweat it.
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How do you know? By the signal meter? The signal meter on a phone is a joke. Like the battery meter on some phones (which show full until it drops like a rock and dies), the signal meter can be falsified as well. The iPhone on AT&T shows a 4g connection even though it only uses their 3g network. On the stock Rom, our evo3d shows a 3g connection even if it is only 1x. I would test bandwidth using Speedtest and if those are comparable, then don't sweat it.
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she's definitely got better reception. we're talking like, I'll have no bars, or 1, and nothing internet wise is working but she'll have like 2-3 and her net will be flying.
Interesting
There may be something to this.
There is a little shop I like to shop at. The shop is inside a building with a metal roof. Now you would not expect to get a good signal in there. I don't.
I have go outside in the parking lot to make a phone call. A friend of mine's daughter whips out her Iphone one day and starts talking away while in this same store. I asked her who her carrier was. Att. She gets 3 bars in the store.
I researched it and there is only one Att Tower in that area. so we are both using the exact same tower and using the exact same carrier but her reception is so much better.
In general though I don't usually experience a problem with signal strength almost anywhere else I go. No dropped calls ever with the EVO 3D.
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eh? settings as in on the phone.. and then "update" ? i aint got no update thing in settings, could you be specific?
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Settings - system updates
"We're coming from a pure power source."
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eh? settings as in on the phone.. and then "update" ? i aint got no update thing in settings, could you be specific?
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Go to your home screen. Then press the menu button. Then press settings. Then scroll all the way down till you see
"System Updates". Tap on that and you will see the menu I'm referring to.
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Go to your home screen. Then press the menu button. Then press settings. Then scroll all the way down till you see
"System Updates". Tap on that and you will see the menu I'm referring to.
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oops, btw guys im like, rooted and s-offed and all that stuff, currently on leedroid
time to update my radio then?
Give it a shot to see if It helps any. You can always go back
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Just curious, does anyone else's evo not connect to 4g unless they cycle 3g on and off? there is one area a few miles from my house and when i go up there (knowing there is solid 4g) my phone will stay on 3g the whole time im up there. now if im up there and cycle airplane mode or flip my internet on and off then it connects to 4g right away as soon as the radio turns on, no problem. Occasionally if i leave my phone in my pocket it will hop back to 3g but then it will stay there again until i flip off and on my internet and then like magic my 4g is back.
Does this happen to everyone else or is it just me? haha may just be the tower also considering im a little southwest of chicago and they haven't really officially launched per say.
It's a common problem with the EVO and HTC has not fixed it yet.
They better get to work as people are thinking the LTE network sucks. Compare it to a S3 side by side and it has no issues.
I still have my insurance and will keep it as when lte is available in my area I will be bringing my phone into the store over and over until they swap me out.
Love the EVO but if it sucks for using LTE then it has to go bye bye.
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digiblur said:
Love the EVO but if it sucks for using LTE then it has to go bye bye.
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im quickly getting to that point. my wifes s3 and daughters iphone5 can hold an lte signal great. but this evo with the current radios just plain sucks.
sitting right next to each other my evo is rocking 1x, the s3 is bouncing between 3g and lte and the iphone is holding lte.
My phone finds LTE in MA but has problems with voice and won't text at all sometimes. Not sure whether that a problem with the network or phone.
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this is happening to me to i knew there was a tower right by me but no LTE connected so i changed the network settings to CDMA/LTE and held LTE until i left the area. I was getting only 1.5mbps which i think sucks for LTE. Its hard to stay what the issue it whether its the phone or actual software settings that maybe OTA can fix. Weird thing i noticed when i updated to the latest firmware is LTE only setting holds LTE and 1X, CDMA/LTE never picks up 3g so i just end up putting it back to stock settings. Really considering taking it back to compare to the store phones.
Having the same problem as well. It will connect to 4G on its own but it would take its sweet time. So the fastest way for me is toggle airplane mode. Hope it gets fixed soon.
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JDM Civic EG8 said:
Having the same problem as well. It will connect to 4G on its own but it would take its sweet time. So the fastest way for me is toggle airplane mode. Hope it gets fixed soon.
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Many people think it is just the new network but in fact it is not. You quickly realize it when you have another LTE phone next to the EVO LTE that the EVO has a huge issue. We just all need to band together and stay on top of Sprint and HTC constantly bugging them until this issue is fixed. We done things like this before, but we all need to do it again to get this fixed ASAP!
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Many people think it is just the new network but in fact it is not. You quickly realize it when you have another LTE phone next to the EVO LTE that the EVO has a huge issue. We just all need to band together and stay on top of Sprint and HTC constantly bugging them until this issue is fixed. We done things like this before, but we all need to do it again to get this fixed ASAP!
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im starting to think this too that it might be the phone. OG Evo4g was never this slow on 3g and i had wimax in my house. Now i barely get 3g in my house and no LTE unless i drive down the road. It sucks not being able to pin point this. I tested it with another evo4g lte and they had similiar results as me...need to try another LTE non-evo4g phone next...
I made a thread about this last week-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898433
I pretty much stuck myself between two towers which I knew were transmitting 4G but refused to cycle through airplane mode or LTE/CDMA and CDMA-only modes. I passed by both and the phone never switched over.
On the plus side, my phone did acquire a fairly weak 4G signal today on its own, so there may be some hope for this thing yet.
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Weird thing i noticed when i updated to the latest firmware is LTE only setting holds LTE and 1X, CDMA/LTE never picks up 3g so i just end up putting it back to stock settings.
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I’m confused, is there an LTE-only setting in the latest firmware, or are you talking about the option in the *#*#INFO#*#* (*#*#4636#*#*) menu? I’m honestly a little wary of using that since I’ve heard it can cause problems that only a factory reset can solve.
yeah the options ##DATA# or when using the elixir app under telephony.
Anyone having this issue needs to call Sprint and HTC and require them to open a ticket for the issue. This is the only way it will get fixed. I hear some are getting told that it is due to the new tower equipment. So you might need another LTE device to compare it to. Others are getting told there is an update coming soon. Others are getting told that the EVO has no issues.
It is obvious though, sprint has stopped pushing this phone. They don't even list it in their lte press releases.
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yeah the options ##DATA# or when using the elixir app under telephony.
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U can also use the network app from the play store. It switches radiobands without any of the ##etc errors.
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Anyone having this issue needs to call Sprint and HTC and require them to open a ticket for the issue. This is the only way it will get fixed. I hear some are getting told that it is due to the new tower equipment. So you might need another LTE device to compare it to. Others are getting told there is an update coming soon. Others are getting told that the EVO has no issues.
It is obvious though, sprint has stopped pushing this phone. They don't even list it in their lte press releases.
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So they just list the S3 and nexus then? Because atm that's the only other phones w LTE.
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U can also use the network app from the play store. It switches radiobands without any of the ##etc errors.
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So they just list the S3 and nexus then? Because atm that's the only other phones w LTE.
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LG viper, google nexus, evolte, iphone5, and the s3 along with that tri network mifi they have
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can someone confirm changing your LTE scan timer to 60 increase speed and connection? changed mine and both increased...where i couldnt pickup or hold a LTE signal before
i tried 10 and 0 setting didnt seem to help
evo4ger said:
can someone confirm changing your LTE scan timer to 60 increase speed and connection? changed mine and both increased...where i couldnt pickup or hold a LTE signal before
i tried 10 and 0 setting didnt seem to help
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Do we know what the values mean though? One would assume seconds but if you increased and got better results, it could mean something else.
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Do we know what the values mean though? One would assume seconds but if you increased and got better results, it could mean something else.
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At this point its worth a shot. I would test it but I don't have LTE close enough to me. The option that is just below LTE scan timer, BSR Max timer, I'm curious as to what that is.
roids87 said:
At this point its worth a shot. I would test it but I don't have LTE close enough to me. The option that is just below LTE scan timer, BSR Max timer, I'm curious as to what that is.
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From what I found googling it might mean Better Service Reselection. Just need to figure out what the values mean.
I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
Edit: I guess my question is, can someone in a LTE area confirm that it is in fact working? Not being in a LTE area, I do not know how to confirm that the radio is being shut off. Thanks!
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I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
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It should work...I know it didnt play nice on some of the gs3 roms. Try it and report back.
I'm in LTE coverage and I've disabled LTE with the Phone Info app. Worked like a charm.
Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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I can change back and forth without any problems. After changing back, it sometimes takes a little bit for the 4G to pick back up. Are you trying to change it back in the phone's settings or through the Phone Info app?
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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unolax said:
I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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Same problem. I turn off 4G with the Phone Info app but the only way to turn it back on is in Android Settings and not the phone info app.
crazydad said:
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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Not true anymore. You can't switch it CDMA in the phone's stock settings . Verizon stopped having this option in the settings for any LTE device around the time that the ICS update went out for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX in the spring. It's not in the settings for the Galaxy S3, the DNA, or the Note 2. Verizon wants to move people off the 3G network and onto the 4G network. The only options in the stock settings for the Note 2 are Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS.
Since it can't be changed in the stock settings, that's why people are asking how to put the phone into 3G-only mode. There's a menu that can be accessed through the dialer, but an app like Phone Info makes things a little easier.
Yea, this option works great. I know each one is different, but with mine I had to go into the settings to get it to move back to LTE. Now that I am sure I can get LTE back then I will have qualms about using this. Thanks to the OP for this. Great IDEA!
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
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bmkindoll said:
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
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If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
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If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
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The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
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Its TwiX said:
The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
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Not true. The Phone Info app changes the entire network connection, not just data. Going into LTE only disables the CDMA radio, which is used for both voice and 3G data. It doesn't separate the two. This is well documented across forums online from people who have tried it. I've also previously tried it on other devices.
On the Note 2, if you select LTE only in the Phone Info app, it doesn't seem to actually put the phone into LTE only mode. If you exit the app and then open it back up, you'll see that it's reverted back to the previous mode (either Global or LTE/CDMA/EvDo). So that would explain still being able to make/receive calls and texts if you tried going into LTE only mode on the Note 2.
But if the phone was truly in LTE only mode, you couldn't make/receive calls or texts.
crazydad said:
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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On this phone you can't choose 3G only by default without an app or other manual commands. Options are for GSM/UMTS, LTE/CDMA, and Global.
Doesn't seem to be turning off the LTE radio
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
It does seem to be good at lowering the quality of netflix though so as to save me from running over my data limits.
willfck4beer said:
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
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The LTE versions of the Note 2 are getting battery life that's on par with the international 3G-only version, even when LTE is in use. So I'm not surprised that you're not finding there to really be a difference. Significant strides have been made over the past year that have made LTE much more energy efficient than it has a reputation for being.
The only time that I'd really think anyone would see a major difference is if you're in a fringe LTE area where the phone is constantly jumping back and forth between LTE and 3G. In a situation like that, disabling LTE will probably lead to a noticeable increase in battery life. Outside of that, the battery drain will probably be pretty similar.
Interesting - thanks for the info!
Seems counterintuitive that turning off a radio and denergizing it would seem to have almost nill effect over several hours - especially in light of the article the other day about how VoLTE was such a huge drain (approx 140%) of regular CDMA voice traffic - due to the peculiar nature of CDMA+LTE with simultaneous voice and lte data.
Odd, another data point, on mine, disabling wifi as well seems to have no substantial affect either.
Maybe this is due to the Qualcomm ?gobi? chip? Supposed to be pretty badass iirc.
Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
akellar said:
Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
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Still works on mine:
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Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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Do you have the Google edition one?
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Yes, more info about the device please.
dotson817 said:
I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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No I have the official T-Mobile version, it is running the latest firmware and radio as of last week. Running AOSP ROM AICP.
I mean it could possibly be due to them working on towers but it still seems weird that the phone wouldn't try to connect to LTE when ever it is possibly available. It might be a placaebo effect, but it just seems like the phone has been having way more delays loading things, even if the ping is low in Speed Test.
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I'm in a decent LTE area (DFW). Why can I have crappy 4G data and can't load anything. Then I dial *#*#4636#*#* and change to LTE ONLY and it loads LTE and extremely fast, but obviously can't accept calls. Why does the LTE/GSM not just stick on LTE instead of going 4G -_-
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When the phone is set to LTE/GSM it will monitor signal thresholds to try and keep you from having a poor experience on LTE at the fringe. So that if it detects your LTE signal is low it will move over to 4G or even 2G to try and provide you a better experience. When you set it to LTE only then it stays on LTE as long as you have usable signal.
T-Mobile probably has the threshold set too conservative, but that doesn't explain your poor experience on 4g (HSPA). I live in DFW and my HSPA service is fast.
Im in Dallas. Main travel area is old east dallas and north central / north east dallas..
I can tell you that im happy with both HSDPA+ and LTE with them.
on the rare occasion i have had a reception / speed issue i find that power cycling my phone fixed it. Also make sure if you do that you have FastBoot disabled.
Thats under power settings, make sure its not checked.
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Also make sure if you do that you have FastBoot disabled.
Thats under power settings, make sure its not checked.
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What's wrong with using Fast Boot?
it doesnt shut down apps properly..
its similar to hibernation.
Good to know, thanks.