[Q] Moving back from iOS to Android (phone recommendations?) - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there. I have an iphone4s and I'm quite happy with it, except for the fact that I hate Apple. So I want to move back to Android. Things that I like about the iphone is the mail app and. mostly, battery life (battery consumption when screen is locked is superb, and that is the phone status usually). I'm not going to use the phone for games, but for calls, whatsapp, twitter, g+, music (lots of music playing), some video and gps navigation. I would like to ask people for recommendations on a good terminal based on (most important to less important):
1.- Battery life (I give importance to battery life when idle)
2.- Fast processor
3.- Fast charging
4.- Support for external storage (microSD)
5.- Cyanogenmod compatible
6.- If possible, the terminal sould allow me to replace the battery
Please do not comment on things like switch off wifi when not browsing the web, or switch to 2G when not using 3G to improve battery life. I do not do that now and I have power for 36 straight hours with my iphone. I'm not looking for workarounds for bad battery life. I'm trying to have the same battery performance I have on my iphone on a phone with Android without switching things on and off.
Thanks so much for your help
Ignacio

The pimp my Rom scripts for Android devices works also good for battery improvement.
But all you need is the Samsung s3 dude. Root it and script it with PMR.
Just lose the freaking Apple dude, you will be fine XD
Regards,
Axelman
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merdofa said:
Hi there. I have an iphone4s and I'm quite happy with it, except for the fact that I hate Apple. So I want to move back to Android. Things that I like about the iphone is the mail app and. mostly, battery life (battery consumption when screen is locked is superb, and that is the phone status usually). I'm not going to use the phone for games, but for calls, whatsapp, twitter, g+, music (lots of music playing), some video and gps navigation. I would like to ask people for recommendations on a good terminal based on (most important to less important):
1.- Battery life (I give importance to battery life when idle)
2.- Fast processor
3.- Fast charging
4.- Support for external storage (microSD)
5.- Cyanogenmod compatible
6.- If possible, the terminal sould allow me to replace the battery
Please do not comment on things like switch off wifi when not browsing the web, or switch to 2G when not using 3G to improve battery life. I do not do that now and I have power for 36 straight hours with my iphone. I'm not looking for workarounds for bad battery life. I'm trying to have the same battery performance I have on my iphone on a phone with Android without switching things on and off.
Thanks so much for your help
Ignacio
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Hello, welcome to droid! I'm surprised at your iPhone battery life. My friends 4S is always running out of juice.
Anyway, recommendations are hard as it also depends on your hand size and preference. I would say Samsung Galaxy S3 or Note II. They both allow battery removal and micro SD and have fast processors, I have an S3 and it charges fast. I currently use the SuperNexus ROM (cm10) and its excellent. For me the idle battery life is excellent, but much improved when rooted and using an app like Juice Defender Ultimate. This saves the faffing of turning WiFi on and off as it does it for you based on training with your nearby cell tower. The app saves juice from adjusting your CPU speed while idle too. There are quite a few features and once setup it does everything automatically, just pick your preferences first.
I use international version of the S3 btw. I'm going to say avoid HTC One X it has a smaller battery and no micro SD option.
Android is great for music playing. Not sure of the iPhones offering as far as equalizers but there are many choices on droid. I recommended the PowerAmp app.
Hope this helps you!

Funny, its excect the way around for me: hate Iphone, like Apple.

Thank you so much for your answers. I will probably go with the SGS3 or the Note II. My brother has a spare SGS2 that I'm going to test with cm10. I know battery is quite worse than SGS3, so if I'm happy with the SGS2 I will be definitely happy with either of the other.
Ignacio

If battery life is important for you, you might also look at an extended battery.
Seidio offers a 3500mAh unit for the S3 (stock is 2100mAh, so it's more than half-again as large). It does add a bit of bulk though and will prevent you from using any case except their cases.

Good luck in getting 36hrs out of any Android phone (with no power management regime) - it just isn't going to happen. Except for maybe a Razr Maxx or Note 2.

Just bought a s3 ,and im pretty happy with it ,just leave you time to understand your phone ...

The new cell Sony
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merdofa said:
Thank you so much for your answers. I will probably go with the SGS3 or the Note II. My brother has a spare SGS2 that I'm going to test with cm10. I know battery is quite worse than SGS3, so if I'm happy with the SGS2 I will be definitely happy with either of the other.
Ignacio
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Like I suggested before. If you need battery life to the max, you should install the Pimp My Rom Scripts. Only thing you need it's a init.d script supported Rom and root. Try it on the sgs2... you will see for yourself.
REGARDS,
Axelman
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setspeed said:
Good luck in getting 36hrs out of any Android phone (with no power management regime) - it just isn't going to happen. Except for maybe a Razr Maxx or Note 2.
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He said screen is off most the time. I get 4 days out if my defy if it's mostly on standby. 2 days easy with normal usage, and that's only a 1500mah battery. I get a 16 hours on my amaze with 2.5 hours of screen time and syncing email every 5 mins. The screen is the battery hog on the amaze. Also to the op. I know you said no turning WiFi off, but I have an app. Smart WiFi enabler. It automatically turns your WiFi off and on based on location and does save battery without sacrificing being in WiFi when you want to be.
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Which OS has best battery life !

SOMEONE !! HELP !!
I need to find out which ROM has the best battery life, can someone point me in the right direction pls....
Thanks
Ian
Try them all. It all depends on how you use your phone. There's no magical rom with great battery life.
If you use your phone a lot, go for a ROM which isn't overclocked.
If you want the longest idle time before recharge, I think you should set the "conservative" governor as a screen off policy and you will be fine. Of course you can also disable features such as data but you will loose many useful features of your phone. Unlike what some people says, disabling GPS doesn't improve battery life as it isn't used except when you start an application which use it.
Battery life is most affected by the screen light.
And with every rom you have to callibrate your battery. Most people with poor battery life haven't done this.
The Froyo roms are the best options because the are faster and less stressing for the juice.
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They all have the same battery life (give or take 5 minutes)
All pretty similar.
Use an underclocked kernel, play around with brightness settings or use an app such as ultimate juice / juice defender to regulate 3g / wifi usage
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mach2005 said:
Battery life is most affected by the screen light.
And with every rom you have to callibrate your battery. Most people with poor battery life haven't done this.
The Froyo roms are the best options because the are faster and less stressing for the juice.
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How to callibrate my battery??
My Hero just lasts two Days with 691mhz Flykernel 11 and Elelinux 2.1 and no 3g.
I just hear a lot of music with it, connect it a few to wifi and play some games in the school.....
How long does your batteriest last?
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johnny crap said:
How to callibrate my battery??
My Hero just lasts two Days with 691mhz Flykernel 11 and Elelinux 2.1 and no 3g.
I just hear a lot of music with it, connect it a few to wifi and play some games in the school.....
How long does your batteriest last?
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You say two days without a charge with occasional wifi use (wifi on, screen on, phone signal on), and games playing (sound on screen on, processor busy) like it's a bad thing...
Since the mid 2000s phone capabilities have been surpassing battery performance at a remarkable rate. With the advent of the iphone and the gaining popularity android smartphones, phone feature demands have exploded while battery technology just isn't anywhere near providing the kind of battery life we expected on our dumb phones, ie, don't bother packing a charger for a two week holiday if you charge up before you leave.
This is a large reason why new technology is being created with more efficient manufacturing processes, smaller dies, etc etc, as it is easier to reduce power consumption at this time than it is to build slim, cheap, high capacity batteries.
mach2005 said:
Battery life is most affected by the screen light.
And with every rom you have to callibrate your battery. Most people with poor battery life haven't done this.
The Froyo roms are the best options because the are faster and less stressing for the juice.
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Mine struggles to get a day battery life, with not very heavy useage... how do i calibrate my battery?

Amaze is a power hog and other issues

So, I made a switch from HD2 running android to Amaze hoping it will have a better battery life coz of its juicy more 1730mAh battery, more power efficient s-lcd screen and the fact its an native android device (which the hd2 wasn't) but its been barely 2 days and I'm seriously disappointed with it.
I'm have a moderate usage which includes calls, pandora, youtube and net surfing but it barely lasts till evening and the usage is actually less than what i did on HD2 coz I don't have put any games on Amaze yet. I had lots on HD2. With HD2 I could easily pass through the day and still have about 10-20% battery left at night and this was on its anemic 1230mAh battery
I do realize the HD2 was rooted and was running CM7 and had all kinds of custom kernels and stuff. So is stock Sense and HTC kernel the culprit here ?
I've already ticked in the setting for Power efficiency under power settings which turns off auto sync (I have google and facebook sync same as I had on HD2) and using auto brightness with the least setting, but neither of them are helping
One thing I noticed in current widget log and current widget display, is the power drain in standby hardly goes below 100mA anytime ? According to me, this seems to be the issue hogging the battery as on HD2 it used to be <10mA most of the times with occasional spikes...but in Amaze every value is like more than 100mA. Does the faux kernel and custom ROMS helps with this, a lot ?
Ideally I should try it myself and see, but don't want to unlock the bootloader and stuff just yet as if the things are going to be like this, I may as well sell it and put in some more money and switch to other side (sgs2)
The other theory I have is the CPU on HD2 is single core 1GHZ while Amaze is dual core 1.5ghz. Gingerbread doesn't have proper dual core support so things will improve when ICS comes ?
Also on a side note, is there a problem with earphones having L shaped jack on Amaze ? My primary headphones monster turbine pro which have L shaped jack don't have a very good fit in it and small amount of force seems to disconnect the headset from phone. Its really annoying, although my other earphones which have a straight pin don't have this issue. But its not the earphone problem either as I don't have this issue with turbine's in my mp3 player and HD2 ?
The stock battery was horrific for me so I bought the Anker 1900mah battery from ebay and It's far better than stock...I'm at 15 hours with 47% left...Tasker is helping a lil also.
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Hmmm didn't think i would have to upgrade the battery just after buying it, although seems something wrong is with the battery though...maybe HTC just bloated its spec to 1730
Yea, I have advanced task manager with auto-kill, but its really the same with it or without..
Mafioso said:
Hmmm didn't think i would have to upgrade the battery just after buying it, although seems something wrong is with the battery though...maybe HTC just bloated its spec to 1730
Yea, I have advanced task manager with auto-kill, but its really the same with it or without..
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Try letting the battery discharge completely until phone turns off, and then plug it up and let it charge to 100% without unplugging it.
My stock battery last 12-16hrs depending on use. I also have an Anker 1900mAH last a good 18-20 if I charge it inside the phone. If I charge it with the Anker charger it last about 8hrs.
Guys what about the current widget numbers ? Have anyone of you got it or can get it to see how is the drain like for you guys?
No matter how strong the battery, if its going to [email protected], it won't last very long. 18-19 hrs on after market 1900mAh battery isn't very impressive figure either
I'm not quite sure of this drain, is the fast 4g on Amaze the culprit just like LTE
Also let me know if you guys have stock or custom ROM ?
Mafioso said:
One thing I noticed in current widget log and current widget display, is the power drain in standby hardly goes below 100mA anytime ? According to me, this seems to be the issue hogging the battery as on HD2 it used to be <10mA most of the times with occasional spikes...but in Amaze every value is like more than 100mA. Does the faux kernel and custom ROMS helps with this, a lot ?
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i assume youre talking about cell standby? you WANT this number to be high on the list
You should use a battery saving app like juice defender or battery fu.
Personally, I use battery fu and I have gotten more than 20 hours of battery, on stock battery, running on stock phone, unrooted.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA
I havent had any battery life issues with mine. Before rooting I could go the whole day on a charge but it would be close to dead around 10PM. I'm still getting used to the new ROM I flashed but battery life has definitely improved.
I would recommend opening the task manager and killing off some unneeded apps.
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I havent had any battery life issues with mine. Before rooting I could go the whole day on a charge but it would be close to dead around 10PM. I'm still getting used to the new ROM I flashed but battery life has definitely improved.
I would recommend opening the task manager and killing off some unneeded apps.
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Task managers kill battery life even more
Is it bad if I use the HTC task manager, I only use it to kill the browser which stays open even if you hit back
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Using task managers to kill an app that you don't want running isn't bad, I think its the continuely killing all apps every 30 minutes that makes it worse.
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mrmako777 said:
i assume youre talking about cell standby? you WANT this number to be high on the list
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I'm not sure why this should be high
It should be low ? A high number would mean its losing more power during standby...
Guys, There are 2 school of thoughts about task manager...I agree task manager may consume more battery if you look into the theory how android works...but I've tried with and without task manager it doesn't make much of a difference from what I observed
Also what about L shaped jack earphone issue? Is it fine for everyone else?
I have the same issue my battery lasts 6-8 hours MAX with intermediate use....juice defender, tried every rom and different kernels.
My brother Easily gets 16-18 hours with intermediate use (galaxy s2) same processor. I know his battery is a little bigger but I didn't think his battery life would triple mine -__-
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA
Is it galaxy s2 tmo version?
I checked out there forum too and things are not looking very good there also with many people reporting horrible battery life
adslee said:
Task managers kill battery life even more
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I use the HTC one that came with the phone and kill apps that consume a lot of resources in the background.
Mafioso said:
Is it galaxy s2 tmo version?
I checked out there forum too and things are not looking very good there also with many people reporting horrible battery life
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Yeah the tmo version. My brother gets amazing battery life. I've seen him pull about 30 hours with super low useage.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA
This phone is anything but a battery hog. Energy 3.10.12 release has these results to boast.
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What kernel?
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glacierguy said:
This phone is anything but a battery hog. Energy 3.10.12 release has these results to boast.
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Hi Glacier,
Thanks for the update That seems reassuring...
I've been researching on Amaze battery quite a lot, I think current widget numbers are misleading because even in Airport mode it shows more than 100mAh drain, which is not possible..
I've found out another app...My battery drain analyzer written by a fellow member here at XDA
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
It basically calculates the drain rate in %/hr, basically measures how much time does it take for battery to take 1% dip...
I've found for my amaze its close to 1.6-3%/Hr when in standby, when phone is not woken up during the period...I think its on a higher side but acceptable still...Can any member with a custom ROM/kernel also report his/her number..
BTW I've seen the numbers on TMO SGSII in their forum, this number is roughly the same there too ~ 2%/per hour for most users...

[Q] It's the battery issue again!

hey, so i have ran pretty much every "jelly bean" rom out there for this phone for about 2-2.5 months. maybe less. note sure..
anyway, the battery has been horrible! on every rom.. I have a 2700 mAMP battery, and a regular Samsung battery. I have to use both once a day for this phone.. now I have no idea what is making the phone loose percentage after percentage of battery as fast as it has for me, but everytime i post i get about 0 luck from people that either have the same issue, or just people saying they have heard it a million times. i probably should have put this in the "Q&A" thread, but maybe i forgot. can someone, preferably more than one, help me out here?? i don't get how other people say they have 8 or more hours of screen on time with half the battery left. it just doesn't make since. I am loving the android system. but this could be anything! the apps in the background. the kernel, maybe I didn't clean my cache or something. i can't raise my brightness up to far or it'll drain my battery, jamie in the paranoid thread said he had his batter on 100 percent and had excellent battery. so I'm far from confused here. do I need to get another phone, or what. very much apprentice the help from as many people as possible. I love my phone, but I hate that i have to focus on using two battery a day with this phone.
Same here battery draining pretty quick on all jb ROMs.
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Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
to get better battery turn brightness to lowest usable setting, turn off sync for any non essential apps, turn off soft key lights, flash a kernel that lets you under volt and under clock, try different govonors and io schedulers, turn off gps, put in airplane mode when not using. these should help. keep in mind cell signal strength will also impact battery and 4g will kill it faster then 3g. i am on cm9 stable under clocked to 1.18 undervolt all by 25mv( not much change but i like to be safe) ondemand and sio and get amazing battery life.
What's your screen-on time? 4 hours is the close to the limit on ANY rom for our Notes. You have to make sure it's not some sort of confirmation bias going on here.
gregsarg said:
Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
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thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
trancemusic+1 said:
thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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thank you so much! I will get right to this
I never got more then 2 hours screen on time on any ROM, just figured that was normal.
Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
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Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
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I'm in the same boat as manel, never gotten anywhere above 2h on screen time. Maybe additional 10m or so. Figured it was normal lol
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Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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(quoted)(Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens. )quoted)
I was not aware of this info....many thanks for the heads up...I always supposed that since the ram was consumed with applications, that those apps were pulling CPU usage from the device...
that is clearly not the case......g
Yep, no problem. If you go back to a touchwiz based ROM and go into the stock task manager, it shows you what's taking up RAM, as well as the CPU usage of each thing in the list. If the apps are working properly, pretty much everything will show very little to 0% CPU usage, and ones that are using it heavily will even be highlighted in yellow or red depending on their CPU usage %age. Unfortunately aosp based ROMs don't have that task manager, one of the things I miss from touchwiz.
Every time a non-techy friend buys a new android, it seems the overly aggressive sales rep that sold the phone to them 'helped' them get to know the phone and installed a task killer, specifically advanced task killer. I always just uninstall it without telling them and see how long it takes them to notice lol.
It's still useful in certain instances, for example if you have an app that doesn't run well but you still like/need to use, but in general practice android does a much better job of managing itself. Besides, if you have an app that you know runs poorly and hogs your processor in the background, but you still need to use it, with most aosp based ROMs you can set your phone so that long pressing the back button kills the current app, essentially making task killers useless.
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welchertc said:
Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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trancemusic+1 said:
That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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This is true. What kind of signal strength do you get where you are at? Does your phone bounce back and forth to lte. I have noticed when i go from a strong signal to weaker signals or band switching a lot, my battery drains rapidly.
Use cpuspy, as mentioned, to verify you do see deep sleep. Also, i find if rooted, that seting the min speed to 192 helps quite a bit.

Better battery life?

i remembered there was a flashable zip to make the battery life better, but I can't seem to find it.
anyways what i've done so far is put the brightness to low, turn off gps , put the animations to .5 , sync emails every 2 hours , only have one widget running , installed the latest faux kernel .
It helped a bit , but nothing too noticeable. Any more things i can do to make it better? any tweaks or anything?
which rom are you usingg?? turn off auto sync, disable check for update.. also your battery can wear out over time, can purchase new battery... most people recommend anker battery,
Batterylife: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...m_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
Amazon Page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B0053EZJMC
i never tried it i wouldnt know but most people recommend it..
kevinrubio1 said:
i remembered there was a flashable zip to make the battery life better, but I can't seem to find it.
anyways what i've done so far is put the brightness to low, turn off gps , put the animations to .5 , sync emails every 2 hours , only have one widget running , installed the latest faux kernel .
It helped a bit , but nothing too noticeable. Any more things i can do to make it better? any tweaks or anything?
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I'm using juice defender with good success. NRG ROM has pretty good battery life anyway (compared to stock).
stevedebi said:
I'm using juice defender with good success. NRG ROM has pretty good battery life anyway (compared to stock).
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i always felt like JuiceDefender killed the battery more than conserving it. Along with everything else thats been stated, I usually use System Tuner to lower the clock speed when the screen is off, helps save battery when idle.
snowlin said:
i always felt like JuiceDefender killed the battery more than conserving it. Along with everything else thats been stated, I usually use System Tuner to lower the clock speed when the screen is off, helps save battery when idle.
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It did not seem to work with my HD2, and I did not use it originally with my Ruby. But now it seems to work fine. I mostly use it to turn off the mobile modem (seems to be my biggest battery drain) except when the screen is off and once per hour to sync my various programs. Using this configuration I can last all day, even with my cheaper replacement batteries.
But nothing is going to make the device go if one is keeping the screen on (like gaming). 3-4 hours max in that setting, and I still carry two spare batteries for those times my son gets his hands on the device.
iKilla said:
which rom are you usingg?? turn off auto sync, disable check for update.. also your battery can wear out over time, can purchase new battery... most people recommend anker battery,
Batterylife: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...m_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0&isremote=0
Amazon Page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...17145&creative=399373&creativeASIN=B0053EZJMC
i never tried it i wouldnt know but most people recommend it..
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NRG's stock rom
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It did not seem to work with my HD2, and I did not use it originally with my Ruby. But now it seems to work fine. I mostly use it to turn off the mobile modem (seems to be my biggest battery drain) except when the screen is off and once per hour to sync my various programs. Using this configuration I can last all day, even with my cheaper replacement batteries.
But nothing is going to make the device go if one is keeping the screen on (like gaming). 3-4 hours max in that setting, and I still carry two spare batteries for those times my son gets his hands on the device.
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I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of... And I don't use juice defender and I am using teamvipers sense 4.1 rom and i have around 180 user apps installed on my phone. I just don't use data but my wifi is on all the time (don't have a data plan) and I play temple run and empire defense a lot hence high screen on time. Major thing about the rom I'm using is that it's very efficient when idle. I also keep my capacitative button lights off permanently as I think that also helps my battery life. Only downside is that I don't have working bluetooth in this rom
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I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of...
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Well, yours is unique. Most people have pretty poor battery life. I've had 3 Amazes and all of them really drained the battery when the screen was on. However, as I said, my GSM modem is what really drains the device as well. If you live near a cell tower or in a downtown area with good T-Mobile, the modem won't "hunt" and will deliver better life.
Also, the stock battery is the best, in my experience.
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I don't know what you are talking about but I get crazy good battery life... Here are my stats from 2 days ago I took a screen shot of... And I don't use juice defender and I am using teamvipers sense 4.1 rom and i have around 180 user apps installed on my phone. I just don't use data but my wifi is on all the time (don't have a data plan) and I play temple run and empire defense a lot hence high screen on time. Major thing about the rom I'm using is that it's very efficient when idle. I also keep my capacitative button lights off permanently as I think that also helps my battery life. Only downside is that I don't have working bluetooth in this rom
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That's hand down the best battery life i've seen on this phone
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Well, yours is unique. Most people have pretty poor battery life. I've had 3 Amazes and all of them really drained the battery when the screen was on. However, as I said, my GSM modem is what really drains the device as well. If you live near a cell tower or in a downtown area with good T-Mobile, the modem won't "hunt" and will deliver better life.
Also, the stock battery is the best, in my experience.
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I am actually on vacation and using aunt's sim who lives in new York and i live in Wisconsin (Marshfield) and t mobile doesn't exist here literally I am always using at&t signal and I have relatively spotty signals but yes I am not using data as my aunt doesn't have data plan so that also contributes to better battery and I live in a very rural area (there are more cows out here than humans...)
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Can you guys tell me the battery life in 2g network.
Subin khan said:
Can you guys tell me the battery life in 2g network.
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2g doesn't really drain too much battery, but it's still always a good idea to turn data off when you don't need it. The rest depends on the rom you are using but again there is no set number... From what I have read I am an odd ball with the battery life (and am not complaining). I assume you live in karachi? It's not even worth it to pay for 2g...I read somewhere that 3g will finally be rolling out to mobile networks in Pakistan in 2013...but we'll see...
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1. Turn down screen brightness, screen kills the battery on the amaze more than anything else
2. Turn off automatic sync, this is very helpful
3. If you're on a JB ROM then turn off google now, this will stretch your battery life significantly.

Battery life is good enough

Since people only post on negative battery experience while the happy ones are silent, I will break the silence.
I have and use the One X+ (international non-LTE, in central Europe) for one week. Today, I just used it to browse web for several hours (browser was consuming 55% at time of screenshot) and read some pdf (pdf viewer was consuming 17%; I flipped about 200 pages in fast way as it was mildly boring ebook with big fonts so no zooming). There were about 10 minutes of web or youtube video too.
The screenshot shows battery graph at 38% of battery left, after 8 hours since plugged.
I guess (based on the screenshot bars and based on the actual usage) the screen-on time was about 60% (so between 4.5 and 5 hours).
Boo at HTC for removing screen-on time counter.
Google now is off.
Mobile data is off.
WiFi is on.
Power saver mode is off.
Brightness was automatic, usually around 30%.
No extra battery monitor was running (they may affect battery while measuring too).
Stock rom, one OTA update was performed.
Android version 4.1.1
Build 1.17.401.1
I have never managed to fully discharge the battery so its measurements may not be fully calibrated.
no problems here
This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
jbharbin said:
This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
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Probably gaming ^^
Mine is just barley good enough, I never put my phone down. Doesn't matter tho because I always carry a charger
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Probably gaming ^^
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I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
smoothmoose said:
I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
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I'm debating switching from the N4 to the HOX+ but the battery is one huge concern. I traded a RAZR HD for a HOX+ and i should have it tomorrow so i can compare the two. I've been averaging between 4 and 5 hours of screen time per day, with my best being 5h 31min. The only thing that I'm thinking will help my case for the OX+ is that i will only use it on hspa+ instead of LTE.
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ctowne said:
I'm debating switching from the N4 to the HOX+ but the battery is one huge concern. I traded a RAZR HD for a HOX+ and i should have it tomorrow so i can compare the two. I've been averaging between 4 and 5 hours of screen time per day, with my best being 5h 31min. The only thing that I'm thinking will help my case for the OX+ is that i will only use it on hspa+ instead of LTE.
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Well, I choose the HOX+ mainly because you can't buy a N4, unless you go to the aftermarket and pay a premium. Also the 16GB is just not enough and LG lost me a customer coming from the LG G2x. Plus in Canada, there's not much benefit buying a phone off-contract. I was off-contract for the past 3yrs and my experience wasn't any better than the the providers that lock you in. That said, I'm guessing you will see better battery on your N4 compared to the HOX+...but hey, I don't either will come close to the RAZR HD for battery life.
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This phone has great life for me. The only times I've had a problem getting a full day was when I first got it and basically didn't put it down. Since then I usually have 30-50% left at the end of the day. I wonder what some people do to drain the battery so much...
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smoothmoose said:
I disagree.
I don't game at all. I get about 10-14hrs of battery life with 1-2hrs of screen time with most of that running on LTE and with Power Saver ON. That is OK, but not great at all. I would like to get that type of battery life with 3-4 hours screen time and using Navigation. I think for people that use their phone for work and travel for work, you ideally need 16hrs battery life with 3-4 hours screen time with some GPS/Navigation. Don't think this phone will every get there.
I've finally got my IT to give me WIFI access at work to avoid 3G/LTE and today I'm testing if Juice Defender is better than Power Saver mode, but based on my current drain, I don't sure i'll make it to 16hrs.
In either case, I found the drain while running Navigation to be HUGE (40%+/h) and if Power Saving mode is OFF the phone will overheat as well (55C/130F).
Still I love this phone, but hope I can find a way to squeeze as much battery as possible. When I look over to say the Nexus 4 forum, I'm a bit envious on what those users are achieving on their batteries.
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Thats very weird! Here are screenshots with detailed info about one of my usage days...
As you see i got 37hours with 3h screen time.... so about same as you.
All connection ON all the time (wifi, 3g)
Sync on
Power saver ON.
Some gaming, web browsing, social apps, calling, texting and stuff (see app usage screenshot)
p.s. my phone is stock and unrooted and i dont use any power saver apps or anything like that. Just stock power saver option.
Oh and i played one game with power saver off, not for long tho. (was tegra3 game, that racing game, you can see it in screenshot)
smoothmoose said:
Well, I choose the HOX+ mainly because you can't buy a N4, unless you go to the aftermarket and pay a premium. Also the 16GB is just not enough and LG lost me a customer coming from the LG G2x. Plus in Canada, there's not much benefit buying a phone off-contract. I was off-contract for the past 3yrs and my experience wasn't any better than the the providers that lock you in. That said, I'm guessing you will see better battery on your N4 compared to the HOX+...but hey, I don't either will come close to the RAZR HD for battery life.
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I had a RAZR HD for a few days. Wasn't impressed with the battery life to be honest. Maybe the Maxx version is better. And I was one of the lucky limbo level 3'ers from the N4 launch, that was not fun.
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Doubt the HOX+ can beat my N4! Kinda sucks cuz they have the same size battery
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Maybe I've not been using it for heavy gaming, but in the month I've had the phone, I've not run into any serious battery issues. If this were an issue, I'd probably install JuiceDefender, and configure it as per my schedule so push E-mails are not constantly keeping the radio on, as well as throttling CPU back.
I also have a charger in my car, so if I'm on the road, it gets charged.
my battery life usually gets me through the day until about 7pm with around 3hrs screen on time so i cant complain too much. i listen to music a lot and text heavily
Yeh. I dont thjnk ive seen better battery from any hox+ posted here. Ive seen 5hr screen time but the total run time is 6hrs.
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Never had a problem with the battery life myself.
mlts22 said:
Maybe I've not been using it for heavy gaming, but in the month I've had the phone, I've not run into any serious battery issues. If this were an issue, I'd probably install JuiceDefender, and configure it as per my schedule so push E-mails are not constantly keeping the radio on, as well as throttling CPU back.
I also have a charger in my car, so if I'm on the road, it gets charged.
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I might have a bad car charger, but when I'm running Navigation, it still drains the battery at 10%/h.
I think I do have higher battery life expectations. I tested with Juice Defender yesterday, and basically it provides around the same benefit as running in Battery Saver mode. Got 2hrs screen time with 14 hrs total run time while mostly connected to WIFI (maybe 2hrs or so connected to HSPA/LTE). Again this is OK...but not great.
Today I am testing with both JD and Power Saver on and will report back. It's the last day of my 14 day return/exchange policy and I'm planning to keep the HOX+. I have a very slight inclination to change to LG Optimus G as I believe it has the potential to get the same battery life as the Nexus 4. But I'm scared as hell about the LG support and the if people think the Dev community is thin here, it's basically a ghost town there. That said, it looks like they have a good build for CM 10.1.
Here is my best battery stat for HOX+, no games mainly whatsapp use with wifi on. Few voice calls and sms.
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Thats damn good. Are you on internatjonal or at&t/telus? And what rom are you using?
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Here is my best battery stat for HOX+, no games mainly whatsapp use with wifi on. Few voice calls and sms.
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Ok you beat my record do tell me your whole setup YouTube video haha
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Elegencia 4.4.0, OXP Kernel-010613
Power Savings on whole time.
Automatic brightness handled by LUMOS app.
This setup I was running sense. Now I'm desened by Elegencia damn smooth!
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