All I have heard about for years is iPhones blah blah blah. Well, as an avid enjoyer of this digital era we are in I decided to try out an iPhone 4s a few weeks ago.
I used a white 16gb and used it solely. Overall it is a nice phone. Wait? Huh? Yeah I said it. But there a re many reasons I just couldn't keep it...I'm android. I'm not an iPhone guy.
Pros.
Always good call quality
Speaker is loud and clear
Can send a full recorded video to any other iPhone and send any recorded video to another phone (although it compresses the hell out of it...it does send)
Camera, sharp fast clear.
Screen quality (yes its so small)
Battery life ( I could avg 5-6 hours usage time solely on 3g no wifi one days use)
Cons
Little bitty display
Could not Bluetooth pics to my wife's nexus.
No t9 dialer (but found an app)
No sextube app! Lol
0 3rd party apps (i know, common knowledge but crap)
Keyboard was...difficult. but I'm sure with tiny fingers manageable.
Not hardly any customization. Open it up from box. Turn on. Use it. Enjoy kind of feeling.
I updated it to ios6 and well...it looked almost identical to ios5. It just felt old and dated. Lost google maps too.
Basically I read a lot of people wanting to hang themselves with a charger at the thought of owning an iPhone. I tried it and while I don't want to chop my fingers off it wasn't a miserable experience. There were some perks I would like to see in android.
Being able to send any video and edit video on the fly was a plus.
Other than that I just missed every android phone I had used up until then. Some people love that phone and that's cool. I just wanted to share my take on it.
It's deffinantly technology and the os to me has,been,surpassed by jellybean. In all areas. So as far as don't knock it til you try it goes? I did. And coukdnt be happier selling that **** and getting back to my android powered devices.
I guess it's nice to see something objective and mature on the site.
Personally, the only thing that really, really, REALLY keeps me far away from any Apple device is the requirement that I use an iTunes account. I don't want to touch iTunes at all. You couldn't make me touch it with a ten foot pole.
You can edit videos just fine on Android, and as far as sending them, forget compression, upload it to dropbox and text the link to ur friends for download. This is way better because it'll be higher quality.
Or you could upload straight to YouTube, or Picasa, or send in an email, I'm not seeing the difficulty here.
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stkiswr said:
All I have heard about for years is iPhones blah blah blah. Well, as an avid enjoyer of this digital era we are in I decided to try out an iPhone 4s a few weeks ago.
I used a white 16gb and used it solely. Overall it is a nice phone. Wait? Huh? Yeah I said it. But there a re many reasons I just couldn't keep it...I'm android. I'm not an iPhone guy.
Pros.
Always good call quality
Speaker is loud and clear
Can send a full recorded video to any other iPhone and send any recorded video to another phone (although it compresses the hell out of it...it does send)
Camera, sharp fast clear.
Screen quality (yes its so small)
Battery life ( I could avg 5-6 hours usage time solely on 3g no wifi one days use)
Cons
Little bitty display
Could not Bluetooth pics to my wife's nexus.
No t9 dialer (but found an app)
No sextube app! Lol
0 3rd party apps (i know, common knowledge but crap)
Keyboard was...difficult. but I'm sure with tiny fingers manageable.
Not hardly any customization. Open it up from box. Turn on. Use it. Enjoy kind of feeling.
I updated it to ios6 and well...it looked almost identical to ios5. It just felt old and dated. Lost google maps too.
Basically I read a lot of people wanting to hang themselves with a charger at the thought of owning an iPhone. I tried it and while I don't want to chop my fingers off it wasn't a miserable experience. There were some perks I would like to see in android.
Being able to send any video and edit video on the fly was a plus.
Other than that I just missed every android phone I had used up until then. Some people love that phone and that's cool. I just wanted to share my take on it.
It's deffinantly technology and the os to me has,been,surpassed by jellybean. In all areas. So as far as don't knock it til you try it goes? I did. And coukdnt be happier selling that **** and getting back to my android powered devices.
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Not to sound like a douche but I think just about every smart phone has all those pros.
+1 very mature post.
I've stayed away from iPhone ever since I traded in my iPhone 4 for the inc2 and never looked back. As op stated, the ios is getting old fast. With hardly any major updates besides copying androids pull down notifications and now a bigger yet awkward resolution screen.
IPhone is a great phone for someone like my elderly mother, or a teenage girl. But not for me
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Squirrel1620 said:
+1 very mature post.
I've stayed away from iPhone ever since I traded in my iPhone 4 for the inc2 and never looked back. As op stated, the ios is getting old fast. With hardly any major updates besides copying androids pull down notifications and now a bigger yet awkward resolution screen.
IPhone is a great phone for someone like my elderly mother, or a teenage girl. But not for me
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You mentioned in another thread you were from Montana may I ask where? I live in Bozeman my self..
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JTNiggle said:
You can edit videos just fine on Android, and as far as sending them, forget compression, upload it to dropbox and text the link to ur friends for download. This is way better because it'll be higher quality.
Or you could upload straight to YouTube, or Picasa, or send in an email, I'm not seeing the difficulty here.
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That's why I am saying that I wish android could make a change and make it to where android could recognize another android device and send a full hd video you just recorded to another android device. Only thing I wish I had still. Why would you want to wait for a 30 sec hd video you upload, then send the link when you could have just sent it as an mms. That's a small gripe but an iPhone can send a full hd video to another iPhone without compressing it. It shows up crystal clear. Doesn't take a long time. Not arguing, I know there are other ways. I just prefer the simplest method.
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That's why I am saying that I wish android could make a change and make it to where android could recognize another android device and send a full hd video you just recorded to another android device. Only thing I wish I had still. Why would you want to wait for a 30 sec hd video you upload, then send the link when you could have just sent it as an mms. That's a small gripe but an iPhone can send a full hd video to another iPhone without compressing it. It shows up crystal clear. Doesn't take a long time. Not arguing, I know there are other ways. I just prefer the simplest method.
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*on wifi.
GrayTheWolf said:
*on wifi.
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Never noticed that. I sent a few 10 to 15 sec vids back and forth without any issues to my sister-in-law. Maybe that's for a larger video dunno. Don't have the phone anymore.
Last gripe was iTunes. That store is very confusing to navigate. Not as intuitive as play store with a search at the top.
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Never noticed that. I sent a few 10 to 15 sec vids back and forth without any issues to my sister-in-law. Maybe that's for a larger video dunno. Don't have the phone anymore.
Last gripe was iTunes. That store is very confusing to navigate. Not as intuitive as play store with a search at the top.
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That is a huge downside to the iPhone, can't download apps over like 5 mb, music, videos, or really anything else on 3g.
famouscollin said:
You mentioned in another thread you were from Montana may I ask where? I live in Bozeman my self..
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I'm in Polson area, an hour from Missoula and Kalispell. I just moved here from Colorado though not used to the open country
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Squirrel1620 said:
I'm in Polson area, an hour from Missoula and Kalispell. I just moved here from Colorado though not used to the open country
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Nice I moved up here from lasvefag you can imagine the change of scenery for me.. lol
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I've been saying this for a while. Android needs an iMessage competitor because quite frankly, iMessage is genius. Android also needs better battery life and I was glad to hear that 4.2 or whatever will have improvements but I was sad to see nothing about a universal messaging app. There's 4 messaging apps for gods sake.
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I've been saying this for a while. Android needs an iMessage competitor because quite frankly, iMessage is genius. Android also needs better battery life and I was glad to hear that 4.2 or whatever will have improvements but I was sad to see nothing about a universal messaging app. There's 4 messaging apps for gods sake.
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Gtalk.
GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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It needs to be integrated into the messaging app like iMessage and also the default way to send messages to other phones, again like iMessage
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GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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Yeah if they could incorporate it into the SMS app and have it use phone numbers it would be a competitor.
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GrayTheWolf said:
Gtalk.
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They need to make it better. It hasn't really changed it all and it could use some features like:
-integration into one app(sms/mms/gtalk/google+)
-integration of phone number so it'll know who your texting and make it free
-full Emoji support. (4.1 only has black and white android emojis)
-more
Gtalk is nice but, it lacks features.
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That is a huge downside to the iPhone, can't download apps over like 5 mb, music, videos, or really anything else on 3g.
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Apps over somewhere around 20 mb require WiFi, ill have to double check the exact size limit.
You can download music videos and other files without that limit. You can also stream media as long as you want.
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OP you did a nice job with the post I think. I agree with you. I really love Android, and it all depends on what the user needs. I'm pretty hardcore into Android, I also have a 4S I carry next to my rezound. They each have their strong points. My iPhone is bone stock and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Yeah I wasn't trying to dog anything. Just bring up some of my interpretations.
If gtalk could check the number and allow mms they could have imessage by the balls imo
emmhmm androids messaging apps (all of them) need to be completely overhauled. basically the only thing I prefer on iOS.
Related
Before ordering mine, a small poll
(Edit : "Your Phone", meaning your new S2 of course !!! )
No!!!
Because i have a N97 now, i guess in a few days i'll be happy with my SGS2
So far yes.
Yes, absolutely. I can see this potentially breaking my record for longest-owned phone.
As long as the gps is good, and doesn't cut out mid-journey (****ty DHD), it'll be perfect.
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Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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I would pick first option but i don't have the phone yet
absolutely love it and i can yet think of a thing i'm not happy about. i feel sorry for my old desire which looks bulky and slow compare to this..=)
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Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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Open the app drawer, then press menu and choose edit. Now you can longpress the dock icons, widget style, then drag them to the app drawer. You can put whatever you want in the dock, although I believe only 3 apps (because the drawer needs an icon)
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TouchWiz lasted about an hour for me too. It was actually the same problem that made me download ADW but even though I worked out how to do it, there's no reason to stick with it. The app drawer was such a mess, 6 pages of unsorted crap and no apparent way to sort alphabetically. I'm hearing more and more about Golauncher, I must try it.
if any one dares to say not happy, you better have a very very good reason why
AllGamer said:
if any one dares to say not happy, you better have a very very good reason why
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Phone doesn't make coffee.
9mmpistol said:
Definitely. Coming from the hero I am struggling to cope with the speed of this thing! It surprises me every time I launch an app! Touch wiz lasted about an hour before I tried to change the dock and it wouldn't let me. Golauncher ruins like a dream.
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Same here, my Hero is heading for Fleabay!!!
THIS PHONE IS AMAZING, and i actually really like Touchwiz, and as there was an app drawer sorter for the SGS, i'm sure one will come for this!
Might switch to ADW like i had on my Hero, especially with all that screen real estate, i can fit 6 rows on the home screen!!
Dickie
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
TIA!...
ccrows said:
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
TIA!...
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Pretty much what I was wondering. Just sold my Cappy for $500 and was looking for the next beast of a phone. Since the Atrix is uh.."limited", the sensation not out as yet, I guess the SGS 2 is probably my best bet, but a few questions, Im in Canada and:
1. Would it work on Rogers?
2. Am I even able to get it over here? 2a. And how?
How do people have the phone, it hasn't even come out?
It has come out in the UK hasn't it?
Lakitu said:
It has come out in the UK hasn't it?
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yes indeed
im not happy, i hate it.
Every freeken time i take out my phone some one wants to play with it.
and all these iphone 4 users keep getting dribble over my fone from salivating over its speed and flash support.
Owe and the worst thing some looser called steve jobs keeps emailing me asking if he could borrow it.
I should have kept my iphone 4 no one batters and eye.
Owe well the hassle continue.
LOL jokes im still waiting but i expect it to be like that.
If Engadget Guys (Fanboys) changed their view about android after SGS2, I am sure your mates will love it too. Its a race now.. Apple need to come up with something very unique to overcome Android.
NIK516 said:
im not happy, i hate it.
Every freeken time i take out my phone some one wants to play with it.
and all these iphone 4 users keep getting dribble over my fone from salivating over its speed and flash support.
Owe and the worst thing some looser called steve jobs keeps emailing me asking if he could borrow it.
I should have kept my iphone 4 no one batters and eye.
Owe well the hassle continue.
LOL jokes im still waiting but i expect it to be like that.
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ccrows said:
3 questions from a future potential buyer:
1 - Does this finally have a Notification LED? (or do we have to use another backlight hack?)
2 - Does the phone get warm/hot during browsing especially with whites backgrounds? (Any temperature posts would be extremely welcomed, since this was an annoying issue with my Galaxy S)
3 - Does the phone feel too big? (length wise)
^ I always felt 4' was the sweet spot for phones. Your thoughts?
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1. No
2. Not noticably
3. It's not comfortable for long phone calls (as I discovered last night), but for general usage it's about the right size for me. Despite it's gargantuan scree it is so svelte and quite ergomical, so it doesn't feel ridiculous in the hand.
I am thinking about upgrading to the evo 3d in a few hours. (15-20)
and i am wondering, is it really worth it?
can anyone please tell me about any issues with the phone that YOU personally have experienced that are major.
main use of phone will be 2d movies, music, texting and some web browsing. calling of course.
lemme know please and thanks lol
My biggest gripe about the phone..... Google Music/ data roaming.
I had NO issues using Google Music on data roaming with the NS4G. With this, I can't really data roam anymore.
My speeds are slow on 3G (but so are everyone's it seems, Sprint is becoming overloaded obviously), and there are said to be towers out in my area.... I've heard that excuse for the past two years... I'm getting sick of it. All of that combined with not getting some phone calls and text messages is a bit annoying.
Other than that one inssue (which affects any sort of data usage really off Sprint's network), I love the phone for what it is! MUCH nicer feel than any other phone (including the OG EVO) I've ever used, and I love how comfortable it is to hold.
Battery life is decent for me, camera is everything I wanted, and you and somewhat attach a lanyard thing to the phone if you really need too (good for takin' pictures).
I'm happy with it, I'm going to keep it..... Sprint's probably not going to like my complaint tomorrow, lol.
So other than there are really no issues? like overheating or anything?
After 20 days I'm 100% satisfied. Take it for a 30 day test drive, if you don't like it return it.
Wiley_11 said:
After 20 days I'm 100% satisfied. Take it for a 30 day test drive, if you don't like it return it.
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haha thats true. i can but i dont like how i get charged for a 2nd activation fee for a phone i dont like
True, But This Phone Really Is The Best. I Love The Phone, And It Does Everything I Want It To Do.
leo72793 said:
main use of phone will be 2d movies, music, texting and some web browsing. calling of course.
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If this is really all you want to do, then don't upgrade. The phone is amazingly fast, stable, and Sense 3.0 is well organized and very nice to look at, IMO. However, what you seem to want to use the phone for is not something that warrant upgrading to this device for.
I upgraded because previous Evo lagged with some of the games I played on it, it had Bluetooth connectivity issues with many devices I wanted to pair it with, my internal memory was full even using apps2SD, etc. I can benefit from the upgraded hardware on this phone due to the type of user that I am.
In your case, however, if you can afford it and want a phone that can do everything you want and a LOT more, then go for it. What I'm trying to say is that you don't NEED a 1.2 ghz dual core processor, 1 gb of ram, a high resolution screen, 3D capabilities with native mirroring to an HDMI source via MHL, etc. to send texts and browse the web. lol
But it won't hurt!
Love it. Former g2x owner.
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Love it. Former g2x owner.
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I'm currently on tmo and am thinking of switching to sprint. How do you like Sprint coming from tmo?
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graffixnyc said:
I'm currently on tmo and am thinking of switching to sprint. How do you like Sprint coming from tmo?
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Where I live. Great. But it very much depends on area. Data speeds are good and stable.
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I'm loving this bad boy so far. The size is absolutely perfect and fits in my hand like a glove.
Physical/ Build Quality
It actually looks and feels more like the OG Inc then the Inc2. Slightly narrower then the Inc2 but a tad longer and has the same red highlighted speaker above the screen as the OG Inc. It also feels lighter then the Inc2 and, it feels more solid than any HTC to date. The back battery cover doesn't make that annoying squeak and fits tightly . :good:
Camera
Although this doesn't have the same imaging software as the ONE series, it takes pictures amazingly fast. Click, click, click -one right after another.
Beats Audio
Gimmick or not, Music sounds noticeably better on this device than on the Inc2. I'm playing the same FLAC HD files off the same SD card.
Cons
Looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but no HTC widget for Facebook. Only the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Bummer . . .
Price
I paid $106.99 (including tax) for the device as a "Buddy Upgrade" on my company's business account. They applied the $50 rebate directly to the purchase.
I haven't gotten one yet but I'm pissed that, at least according to the website, the phone isn't global ready. WTF?? The DINC 2 was global ready right? And this chip supposedly has GSM capabilities built in. So why not make it global ready from day one?
Verizon is getting on my last nerve...first they pass on the One series and put out this phone with inferior specs, then they jerk everyone around waiting for the release so they can screw us on the plan, then they don't make it global ready when the hardware clearly supports it. I don't get it. I'm going the europe next month and was looking forward to using the phone over there.
Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
Yeah, I didn't buy one either for the above reason. They told me in the store today it wasn't gsm capable at the moment.
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Verzion already has said they will send out a software update to make it globally complient in very near future. It has the hardware to support it inside of it.
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LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
I picked up one this morning to replace my galaxy nexus. (By the way, does anyone want a nexus)
So far I love it. I wanted a 4g phone that wasn't as big as a surf board. I don't need a huge screen as I will never watch TV or anything on it so this is perfect.
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No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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im sure we can fix that easily given that friendstream does exist for sense4 on the other phones
Honestly if I didnt miss school 2 weeks ago, I would leave work and go straight to picking this phone up. I wonder should I do that.... hmmm....
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...(By the way, does anyone want a nexus)...
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Fo free? :cyclops:
slacka-vt said:
No worries. :laugh: I actually have a gripe already -looks like they did away with the FriendStream widget ?! There's a Twitter HTC widget but nothing for FB but the totally lame FaceBook widget that comes with the FaceBook app. I like having the Twitter and Facebook feeds combined in the FriendStream widget. Call me lame . . .
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Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
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Are we sure it isn't in there? That it is a deal breaker for me, FriendStream is the best feature of Sense for me.
Y2J
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even if its not, would be a very easy (id think) fix for custom stock-ish roms
marky2mark said:
LOL...with Verizon the very near future could be a year from now.
And by the way, is it just a coincidence that they send out this OTA to the original DINC that is throwing everyone's phone into a constant reboot loop a week before the new DINC 4G comes out? The timing is a little suspicious. I get the stupid notification like every half hour, hoping the thing will eventually just go away.
Sorry slacka...didn't mean to hijack your thread. I'm done ranting now....
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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Did anyone try the back door method the rezound has? This is one of the features I was wanting as well. Here is how the Rezound works.
(*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, then phone information) there is a option for "Global Mode" and ones for "WCDMA Only" and "GSM Only"
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Fo free? :cyclops:
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Based on your post logic used in the other thread this kind of discussion should be posted in a different thread based on this ones title...
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Was a longtime user of several phones, including Dinc2, and Rezound.
Picked up the 4g lte today, and I gotta say from the limited time I have with it, I am enjoying it. The biggest plus so far is the nice sharp screen. In fact, I like it more than the rezound's 720 p screen because this one is NOT scaled, so everything looks nice and crisp, and the fonts aren't too big.
Sense 4 on this phone seems pretty snappy and smooth, minimal if any lag on certain scrolls, but they are rare. Haven't made phone calls yet. 4g (here in LA county) is variable in terms of speed... from 300 KB/sec to 1.1 MB/sec. I think that is maybe more related to network congestion.
Form factor of the phone is basically the same as the Dinc2, which is a good thing, but I find this one to be easier to hold in my hands, with softer edges. Also, buttons are easier to press than the Dinc2, which is a plus. Battery door easy to open, and doesn't have flex/creaking. Another nice feature is that the SIM tray and SD card tray are both on the side of the phone, so you don't have to remove the battery to access anything, only the back cover.
All in all, I am pleased so far. Hope to continue the enjoyment, and hopefully will see some nice interest in this phone. Only question remaining is whether the bootloader will be unlocked (either by HTCdev, or otherwise). Honestly, though, Sense 4 on this phone is pretty snappy and quick, so I can overlook this even if we don't get AOSP. But nothing wrong with more options, of course, thanks to any and all devs who know how to cook roms, because I sure don't know how to.
Thanks for reading!
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no sir
I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I understand that you initial posters have your shiny, new phone that you paid for, so please don't flame me for offering what the OP suggested, ie: initial thoughts.
I used the phone briefly in the Verizon store today. I have lots of experience with Sense, having used and rooted both a Droid Incredible and an HTC Rezound. That said, I should state that my bias leans toward Senseless and ASOP roms.
Compared to my Rezound running ConRom, I found the Incredible 4G on Sense 4 to be laggy when it came to screen transitions, ie: opening/closing the market, updating apps, transitioning between Sense home screens, etc. I'm not one of those "The Rezound is the best Android phone out" guys either. I was honestly hoping that this phone would be a significant upgrade over the Rezound. If I still had the ability to keep unlimited data and burn my existing upgrade, my choice would still be either the Rezound or the Galaxy Nexus.
I am envious of the Incredible 4G due to it's form-factor. It's feels great in the hand, light but not too light, and has the same nice rubberized-texture that the Inc 2 and Rezound have.
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I wasn't running ComRom on my Rezound but so far my experience has been the exact opposite. The Incdreble 4G has had no lag like the Rezound does. Plus, Sense 4 runs circles around the Rezounds version of Sense.
Besides, It's hardly a fair comparison to pit a custom ROM against stock anything.
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So that's all it takes to turn on global mode? Do you have to be rooted?
I think you have to pre-pay for data from verizon before you go right? Like $25/100 mb. So they wouldn't care that you went in and turned on global mode yourself?
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Global mode is something different. What I am talking about is buying a prepaid sim overseas or using it with t-mobile/att&t. The command doesn't work because Verizon disabled it but if you download the Thunderbolt LTE on/off app in the play store you can change it to GSM only. The options are there so the phone is capable like everyone said. I just got back from receiving the phone and the app works in switching to 3G. The sim for this phone is now a micro-sim so for someone to test they would need to trim a regular sim and put it in. This settings works for voice only. To send SMS and MMS, we need a dev to fix the ROM. That's how they did it with the Rezound. Or we wait for Verizon to enable all the functionality.
So far I am liking the phone. It's more like the original incredible than the incredible 2.
I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
Thanks for your time.
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I have a question for all those guys that make a big deal about having their phone upgraded to ICS or JB. I would like to know what is the big difference or a feature that would make my phone Atrix that's stuck on GB so special? I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't? Please let me know
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Well firstly, ICS/JB is soo much smoother and much more asthetically pleasing. Many more people prefer ICS/JB and they are entitled to their own opinions.
Also, many people are angry at MotoFail because they promised us ICS and did not deliver. This is what has caused most of the outrage.
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I mean, I can run any browser I want except maybe chrome, I can run any email app and watch and listen to music just like on upgraded phone... oh and lets not forget I can still make phone calls. Have I been living under a rock or do you know something I don't?
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Yes, for now most applications support GB, but as percentage of ICS/JB will grow, more and more application developers will dump GB support. There are some bugs in GB that are not fixed and probably won't be ever fixed, so some developers make workaround for them, some don't, so you can stumble upon one of those if you are 'lucky'. Most of new applications are primarily targeting new ICS interface with Action Bar, so they support GB with third party Action Bar library which also has a lot of bugs, some application features could be disabled because it is hard or impossible to implement them in GB. And things will get worse...
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Google Now & Project Butter
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I agree, these two things may seem small, but going back from CM10.1 to CM7 makes it feel like my phone is very slow (although I'm sure this is more of a perception than a real difference).
ICS and JB bring UI enhancements. More importantly, there are apps that only work on ICS and above and will never be backported, Which apps are important to users, depends on the user. For instance, Brighthouse and TWC have cable apps that only work on ICS and above. And as time goes by, you'll find more and more newer apps will require ICS and later, especially since ICS itself was released 16 months ago.
But you're right, you can still make phone calls and you can still use 2 year old apps. But if all you care about is using just a phone, you can get one without paying for a smartphone plan for a hell of a lot less money. And while it's unrealistic to have the latest greatest software at all times for the term of the contract, the device at least should not be obsolete before the ink dries on that contract. While the device still mostly works as it did when it was new, the actual resale value has plummeted since the ICS update cancellation announcement, so much so that a decent protective case costs more than what the device is currently worth.
So when it comes to why people make such a fuss about ICS, aside from the cancelled update, and aside from all the marketing hype that went into the device that got people to buy it in the first place, and aside from the fact that ICS and JB are that much better or they wouldn't be considered updates/upgrades, some people like to at least be a little current. After all, why go buy a new computer when people will give you an old one running windows 3.11 for free? Who knows, maybe you can find an old Univac somewhere. While we're at it, why use anything new at all when we can go back to wearing animal hides and banging rocks together to make tools.
I should tell you about the security vulnerabilities as well, but I'm not going to. Sometimes the lesson becomes more valuable when the person learns on their own, even if it's with some rogue dialer hooking you up with one of those $100/minute pay per call lines like back in the days of dialup.
erikmarko said:
Well, yes I'm mad myself that they did not upgrade my $600 phone. BTW I'm using GO Launcher so my phone still looks pretty good and I can't complain about not being smooth. If this is it, it ain't that bad.
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Go Launcher is smooth only after first one or two clicks. It has many advantages like foldering but for the smoothness, i dont think so.
What pisses me off about GB is notification bar pull-down. Sometimes it gets damn so laggy and slow.
Google Now, Multiple GTalk logins, stable push connection, data counter/limiter, better app support, interface that's easier to use and navigate, faster, and many other improvements.
Stable push connection is the one that really made me not want to go back. When I'm on mobile data on GB it would disconnect every 4-5 minutes, and then wait for a few minutes before reconnecting, and then disconnect again after another 4-5 minutes, ad infinitum. I can't tell you how many times I've been frustrated seeing gray status bar icons instead of green ones. And the fact that GB's push mail & market is dependent on the gtalk service doesn't help.
Gray icons? No gtalk messages, no mail, no downloading from the market.
Signed out of gtalk? No mail, no downloading from the market.
It was frustrating...
I don't care about staying in gb, imo the problem is that there are apps made only for 4.x+ and in a close future gb will be definitely dead.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I bought this phone 9 months ago for 300€, even a Lapdock (120€), and I hear that ICS won't be delivered by Moto and my digitizer starts glitching (A full zone of the screen). Now my phone is unlocked the warrantly is void. This is what makes me angry.
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I'm surprised that Motorola hasn't recognized the digitizer problem. Too many people are affected by it.
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The digitizer doesn't mean much to them. The device is 2 years old and they stopped caring long ago.
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Yes I fixed mine for 33 bucks works sweet now just have to get a good. Screen took 3 of them to get 1 good one only payed for 1..
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I think you guys are exaggerating a little bit. I mean I went to the store and played with phones that run JB and my old Atrix is pretty much just as smooth. I can play Youtube videos in 1080p no problem. And Google Now... do I really need it? I mean I don't live in my phone or on facebook like some of you hard core cell phone users. Balintmaci what did you notice that was so special when browsing on JB OS? Im using Opera browser and it runs pretty fast.
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smoothness, many apps, YouTube in 720p for instance. hardware acceleration makes it WAY faster. you can not compare the browsing experience... Google now. that's just what I can think of in a few seconds... i believe that's more than enough.
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Less reboots/stability
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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I rooted...unlocked...and put epinters CM10 on my Atrix cuz Motorola said I couldn't!
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tacarat said:
My stock FY/GB Atrix rebooted randomly a lot. It's the whole reason I looked into roots and ROMs in the first place.
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Same. Got the device in September of 2011 from local AT&T store, in October it started randomly rebooting, even after several factory resets. Between that and the unified messenger spam, I was not impressed.
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Haha... good for you mister. Now I'm a total newbe so pardon the stupid question. When you guys flash roms to CMx... ie ICS or JB does this allow you to download and install apps that require that OS from play store?
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Yes...and I can flash back to a GB rom anytime I want. I prefer the JB rom without all the bloatware and epinters rom is very good.
Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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The new ltd update brought me back to stock for improved reception. The only thing I really miss is the hold home as menu button. I understand your point, although I do wish they would stop being lazy and just bring it over.
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Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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Sorry thought a fresh perspective might be nice. Instead of another thread complaining about not having 4.2.2
Thanks for contributing
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See I just want my sense to have my nice 2 finger pull-down menu from 4.2.2 and WiFi calling. Be nice if they would just add in a bigger app drawer and home screen.
I don't know why you wouldn't like the new updates/ including improved battery life and usability... Also, Wifi calling is only one that I miss the most... other than that, everything else is far superior in terms of speed, battery, and well... everything else.
I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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Google also doesn't have to deal with tens of thousands of paying customers threatening to end their business relationship when there's bugs/issues like the carriers do. They have to be more careful releasing updates
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i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
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Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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Really dude?
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Just remove the stupid 3 dot menu and I'll stop complaining. Really though I would prefer a first party eqs than the one I'm using now. And no I don't want to mess with rooting or roms as work email doesn't work with root.
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s10shane said:
i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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I feel like I can wait but why did htc chose no notification toggles is weird because all the other top phones got that but it's ok they are ugly phones lol
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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yeah that is true. but i can wait. im in no hurry. this phone is fantastic the way it is now. :highfive:
Have to say I agree with op. I have come hmback to complete stock 2 times. Infused a few roms and there was just something about them that wasn't working just right. Tried 4.3 and it was blah . Missed out on the stock features I'm staying stock also.
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I returned to stock myself but I wouldn't say I actually enjoy the slow updates. I just don't enjoy custom ROM's as much as I used to. I prefer the genuine stability of what comes from the factory. Although, there are some features (a few actually) that I can't wait to receive with the 4.2 update.
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Funny XDA & all these One owners staying stock. Me too! This is my first truly problem free smartphone as in nothing, none, not one issue(other then the black menu bar) but I know it days are limited so I can wait. But they finally got a phone so right that even XDA members are going stock that's an accomplishment
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