Hi folks! I'm quite new to android so if this is a real noob question where i could have found the answer by myself by doing a little searching (which i did, without much luck) please delete this thread (or point me in the right direction )
I recently got an ACER Liquid Gallant E350 running ICS. According to the specs it should have 4 GB internal storage and of course space for an microSD-card.
However when i check "storage" i have 1GB "internal storage" and 1,6GB "USB storage" and then there is my 32GB microSD card that shows it has 29,23GB.
The thing is the 1,6GB USB storage is seen as a SD-card by the system and also called sdcard when i check with file manager. My 32GB microSD is called sdcard2.
So when i tell the system to install to sdcard it will install to that 1,6GB USB storage (which is almost full!) and i cant find a way to force it to install it to the real SD-card.
Even with app 2 sd it will try to copy the apps to that 1.6GB USB storage and (as far as i can tell) i cant tell it to use the other (real) SD-card.
Is there some sort of fix or work around for this? Did ACER mess up by naming the internal storage sdcard?
I think you have to edit the script to do that manually. Find out the name of the sdcard2 partition, and put that in place of the sdcard partition which is currently in the script. You may need to clear & reflash everything, then flash your customized a2sd script.
Also make sure you've established what partitions you want on the microSD card, and how they are to be formatted.
Ah that sound like more work than i expected. Also i dont think there is a tool yet to backup the ROM for this phone
So i guess im kinda screwed for now. Isn't there an easy way to maybe symlink the data folder to the SD card? (i think it's the android folder isn't it?)
Hello, when you go to storage in settings you have 2 options. 1 is usb storage. This is for sd card 1. 2 is option sd card 2. Mark this one and all will go to sd card 2.
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it doesnt work in this phone
Zoeriva said:
Hello, when you go to storage in settings you have 2 options. 1 is usb storage. This is for sd card 1. 2 is option sd card 2. Mark this one and all will go to sd card 2.
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hello, i have the same problem with my acer liquid gallant duo (os4.0.3), when i go to storage in settings in preferred install location i have 3 options:
-internal storage
-USB storage (sdcard1)
-let the system decide
it doesnt have the sdcard2 option..
I have tried the Directory Bind ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262 ) and it works but first you have to install it in usb storage(sdcard1) and then move it to sdcard2 and if an app is biger than 1,5gb you cant install it in the first place coze you only have 1,4gb of free space in usb storage(sdcard1)..
in ROM MANAGER i have seen an option that it sais partition sd card, i will read more about it and i will check it out
this is the first android phone that i have and i am new to this
Hi all!!
I also have the Gallant Duo, I love it! But this thing about not being able to move apks to the external sd (sdcard2) is very annoyning? Is there any solution apart from directory bind? Like this one f.e. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/choose-your-own-storage-with-folders-plug/. Does anyone know if this works? Also, does anyone have a modified vold.fstab file with the sdcard2 as internal sd and internal as external?
Looking for an answer to this question i didn't found it here, but i think here should be an answer.
What worked for me:
use the app External 2 internal from the app store.
Check use per default:
The original internal mounting point: /mnt/sdcard
The original external mounting point: /mnt/sdcard2
The ext. sdcard device access: /dev/block/vold/179:25 I'm not sure about this setting, i just looked in the folder and this was the highest number. so more information about this is welcome
With these settings i've good results. But after some reboot's with "at boot**" (no init.d support needed) i lost access to my sdcard, in fact every one.. When I restored my ROM(super stock ROM) using CMW everything worked fine again, no loss of data or whatsoever, and external 2 internal worked again till now.
But now i'm wondering why the boys and girls from super stock ROM didn't fix this upfront..?
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So I recently Romed my Viewsonic G Tablet.
I followed this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
Everything is fine..except when I put a SD card into the SD slot the Tablet doesn't recognize it. It just tells the the internal Space not the SD card space.
I used ZPad Clean v3.0 for the ROM and I used cwmod_internal.zip instead of cwmod_microsd.zip
I then used my friend's G Tablet and put the SD card in it..It read it just fine.
So I wanted to test it out while it was rooted. (to double check)
I then Rooted my friends GTablet also. I rooted it the same way but the only change I did was have a SD card in the tablet the whole time. Still the same problem.
Is there any way to fix it? DO i need to use cwmod_microsd.zip....instead of cwmod_internal.zip??
I'm really confused if someone can help me that would be amazing!
Is there an APP that tells you the storage of your installed SD Cards?
Thank you
You mean flashed the rom when you say romed. Have you checked to make sure the sdcard is getting mounted? If there is no data on it you might try reformatting it in either of the g tabs. If you can get to a shell you might reboot, and look at the last 20 lines or so of dmesg. Insert the card and take another look at dmesg and see if the kernel is picking up the insert at all. If so it is likely just a mounting issue.
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You mean flashed the rom when you say romed. Have you checked to make sure the sdcard is getting mounted? If there is no data on it you might try reformatting it in either of the g tabs. If you can get to a shell you might reboot, and look at the last 20 lines or so of dmesg. Insert the card and take another look at dmesg and see if the kernel is picking up the insert at all. If so it is likely just a mounting issue.
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Well I reformatted it and I mounted it. Still nothing..How can I check if the kernel is picking up the SD card at all?
Would changing Kernel's fix the problem? I'm just using the Stock Kernel that the ROM came with.
Thanks
You were able to reformat and mount it via the g tablet with the zpad software on it? And even having done that it doesn't list it as having any free space?
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You were able to reformat and mount it via the g tablet with the zpad software on it? And even having done that it doesn't list it as having any free space?
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Not yet. So should I go to Storage and devices and unmount and format the SD card via the tab?
Try it on the tablet.
If I reformat the SD card wouldn't I loose the root? or no right because I did external
My understanding of root is that it modifies files on your tab/phone, not an external sd card. Worst case you lose root and reroot the device.
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Try it on the tablet.
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Not yet. So should I go to Storage and devices and unmount and format the SD card via the tab?
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When I tap click mount it says 11.3 gigs available.
when i unmount it says unavailable.
The card is only 8GB.
It should be internal storage 16GB.
SD card like 8gb.
Not sure what's going on.
If I format I think I'll wipe it all.
Ok, there is an internal 16GB, yes. Of which you have 11GB free. The SD card you're having the issue with is a separate uSD 8GB, right?
I'm meaning for you to try to mount/unmount or possibly format the 8GB SD card. If it isn't showing at all then the issue is something beyond it simply not being mounted.
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Ok, there is an internal 16GB, yes. Of which you have 11GB free. The SD card you're having the issue with is a separate uSD 8GB, right?
I'm meaning for you to try to mount/unmount or possibly format the 8GB SD card. If it isn't showing at all then the issue is something beyond it simply not being mounted.
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Yeah. It's a separate card that I plugged into it.
Was there ever a fix/resolution for this? I am having the same issue.
Everyone,
I've written this a bunch of times -- but here's one more:
/sdcard -- internal memory of the tablet
/sdcard2 -- miniSD card in the external slot
/usbdisk -- USB key slot
Put your recovery folder and update.zip on /sdcard, turn off the tablet, the press power
and volume + to initiate standard recovery.
Second, put your recovery folder and update.zip on a miniSD card. Edit the command file
in the recovery folder with Notepad to change the location from /sdcard to /sdcard2 and
save it with the name "command" (NO .txt or other file extension). Then boot
recovery with power/volume + and the OS will use the sdcard (assuming you don't
have a live recovery/update.zip file in /sdcard).
Third, if you can boot recovery to CWM but can get your ROM to work, go in recovery to
the mount menu and go down to the mount USB memory option and choose it.
Then plug your connector cable from the miniSB port to your PC. When you plug into
your PC an Explorer window should open and you should have a drive letter representing
the G-Tablet (it's G: on mine) on you menu. You now can select that
letter and you have access to your tablet memory (/sdcard). I've even had a time or two
when not a single file showed!!! I added update.zip and recovery and loaded
a ROM!
The tablet boot process apparently checks /SDCARD. If it doesn't find a recovery files there
it does the same check if you have a miniSD external card installed. The large USB slot is not
useable for booting or recovery so far as I have determined or read.
I hope this helps you.
Rev
I own a visio tablet which I rooted with vegan and clockwork. I have a 32GB SD card but when I check the storage is says 12GB on SD and 2GB on internal. The tablet should have 16GB + my 32GB. Anyone have an idea why it wont come up?
Is the fix above the best way to take care of this issue?
Can anyone kindly help? I've read through a lot of the links and can't find anything. I have rooted my device with clockworm v8, Vegan, got the market place to work and now I just need to figure out what is going on with my 32GB SD card. Should I format it with FAT32? How can I get it to be recognized?
Thanks in advance!
Formatting to Fat32 would be a good start ;-)
SD Card Dilemma
I have the VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0B5.1 installed in my G-Tab and, with the exception of the SD card issue, things are just peachy! I've read the entire thread but, even with butchconners description, I seem to still be missing something. Let me try to structure this a bit differently...
1. The sdcard2 DOES show up in ifilemanager (with only one file, LOST.DIR) but NOT in SETTINGS. Since it does not appear in SETTINGS, there is no way to mount or dismount it (although if it shows up in the file manager and I can see the file on it, one might infer that it is already mounted.)
2. Even though I can see it in ifilemanager, I'm not so sure how I can actually USE it. It seems to me that the system would need to know (via SETTINGS) that it is there and I would have to tell the system where to put my files (i.e., sdcard or sdcard2).
3. When I connect my G-Tab to my Win7 PC, I only have access to sdcard AND NOT sdcard2. This seems a bit unusual since I have always had access to the removable sd card AND NOT the system memory on all my other devices (EVO, Blackberry, etc.)
My goal is to be able to set applications (some or all) to use the sdcard2 (at least for data) and be able to access it via the usb connection to my PC. Does anyone know how to accomplish this?...Has a solution for this already been posted somewhere?
Many thanks.
I am not an expert but the pc sees(?) only sdcard(internal) but no sdcard2(microsd).
Right, Guys?
I am now able to see both sdcard1 and sdcard2 using pershoots latest oc kernal released 4/25 when hooking up gtab via usb to computer. I am using Vegan tab gingeredition.
where does one find that kernel and how do i install it? Im running vegan ginger right nowand have the same sd card issue.
thanks!
Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
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Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
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The Big problem is MOTO calls both internal storage & externel
storage sdcard. (sdcard& sdcard-ext)Then throw in a CD-rom
partition (part of internal storage) & and you have a perfect
storm leading to lots of confusion.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this helps
The issue is that since I'm using the SD card that I used for my droid x I seem to have 2 partitions on it. One that was created by the DX2. Now half my apps think that the old dx partition is where they should put data. So how can I merge the two so that my entire SD card is 1 entity?
So my setup is currently
internal 2gb/internal storage/sd card (dx)/sd ext (dx2)
corz123
I would just connect phone to computer copy
everything from sd-card to computer.
Then delete, format sd-card, copy
everything you need back to sd-card.
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hi that sounds like a good idea. so if I do that will it be formatted as sd or sdext? i read some threads that mentioned that if its sdext (dx2) that some apps wont be able to detect it or save settings.
also i'm using a rom (eclipse) does that make a difference?
corz123,
It will be the ext sd-card. Motorola calls the Internal storage
sd-card and the removeable 8gb card ext sd-card confusing I know.
(See my previous post)
You should avoid loading programs on removeable sd-card (ext sd-card)
I only put picture's, movie's, music, and doc's etc on removeable sd-card.
Most program's won't work very well or not at all when loaded on ext
sd-card.
Hope this Helps.
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did motorola change their setup? I had a droid x and i don't believe the used the sd-ext convention.
corz123,
Get a file manager if you don't already have one
such as Astro, ES File Explorer, or Root Explorer if your rooted . Open
whichever one you have or acquire and U will see sdcard sdcard-ext.
Ok see you later
I went into root explorer.
I went into /mnt/
And I noticed there's two options....
/Extsdcard and /sdcard
Seems like all my downloads, music, and everything is getting saved to /sdcard
What does this mean?
P.s. I have a 64gb micro sdcard card.
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your extsdcard is your external one in your phone you can remove. i would recomend saving most your files like your music and such to that. sdcard is your internal memory of your phone. you have less space there and should save it for more important things. hope that helped
It means everything is being saved to your Internal Storage. I haven't quite figured out how to default everything to the ExtSdcard yet. I know the camera can. The phone will read everything from the ExtSdcard fine though, such as music and other files.
The ext sd card can be used for the camera/video, CWM backups, music files you copy from your computer, and you can move most any files there that you download.
The internal sd card will be used for all of your apps, there's no way to 'move to sd card', you just have the full 16/32gb internal sd for all of it. Since you will always be forced to use the internal sd card for all app needs, I just try to keep everything on my ext sd card I can (my cwm backups are 1.7gb!). Not that it really matters for me though, I downloaded every app I ever use and a few games and only hit 1.2gb used on my internal sd card.
You can also go to th advanced tab within the stock browser and select memory card for default storage. I am guessing that is ext SD as the other option is "Phone".
Thanks for the information!
This was quite confusing at first. Time to start moving files
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permanent fix for this?
My issue is that everything defaults to the /sdcard (internal partition - i'm calling it that for ease of terminology) and some apps just don't give you another option of where to save the media to (or don't let you browse over to the right thing). as it stands, the phone seems to be mounting that internal /sdcard partition as if it were external media, ie in android's default location for external media. thus, apps are looking ofr the REAL SD card and think they've found it but they haven't.
the reason this is a problem for me is 1. i have to change this in every app that allows me to, and 2. CWM sends backups to the internal one automatically and i can't change it and have to manually move the backup images to my external.
the reason i'm going into all of this is i'd like to find a way to entirely get rid of the /sdcard folder representing the internal memory and have the external card take its place. I'd like the rest of my 29ish GB of internal storage to be part of the system partition - where apps go, etc. it's not that i want to use that space, it's that i want to "move to SD" to the right SD. i just don't want the apps and system to treat ANY internal space as if it were external or mounted or anything of the sort.
my last phone, Atrix 2, had like 2-4gb internal. I'm just suggesting stretching that amount all the way to 32gbs and using the SD card as an SD card.
the question, basically, is whether there is any way to make this happen? i came across a thread (google "sd card mount point modification" as i can't post external links yet) elsewhere that discusses doing this with a VTAB and was wondering if this is something that is addressing my (our?) issue, whether it's a recommended solution, and whether it would work on the S3. i'm fine following technical instructions but I have very limited knowledge of the way addressing etc. works on Android and this filesystem. any help (or a redirect to a thread where this is more appropriate to ask) would be greatly appreciated.
Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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Does this issue persist with custom roms? Is it an Ics bug that won't let you install apps to extsdcard or a Samsung intentional crap? I know one other android phones I had I could save apps to sd card no issues.
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haven't tried any, waiting for something where key things like camera, LTE, etc all work. It's not that I can't install to extSD, it's that the default is "sdcard" (ie the internal space allocated). it's really a function of the way the system/phone allocates that extra internal space - rather than calling it "internal storage/system storage", they are calling it the "primary sd card" and the actual sd card is being called "2nd sd card". it's this treatment of the spaces by the system that i'm unhappy about, i guess.
that's a good point though, and i am hoping that a custom ROM will do this differently. will update when i find one i like
EDIT: gonna do the Task & Ktoonsez AKOP Rom this weekend, should know how the spaces are treated. again, will update.
Hello,
when inserting an external SD card, the internal memory card is then mounted as sdcard1 and the inserted external card is mounted as sdcard0. So Android starts writing a lot oft data to the external SD card.
How can I avoid this? Android should not touch the external SD card. I want to copy pix, music and backup manually to it.
Any suggestions?
Hi just go to settings =storage and then change default write disk to phone storage
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Hi just go to settings =storage and then change default write disk to phone storage
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Hello,
and you have tested this by yourself? If I insert an external SD card, switch to "default write disk to phone storage" and delete ALL data on this SD card, Android
immediately starts to write to data on it:
The folders "LOST.DIR", ".thumbnails" and "Android" are created. In the folder "Android" there is the folder "data" with several App-Data in it.
Even some Apps like WhatsApp start to write data to the external SD card.
So, switching to "default write disk to phone storage" does NOT keep Android away from writing data to it.
For example, on my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 the external SD card is mounted as "sdcard1" and no files are written to it automatically.
I browsed the web for hours, but did not find any solutions for this problem. It is not a big thing, but it is annoying.
:crying::crying::crying:
I have the same problem also on an old smartphone with MT6582 processor and Android 4.1.2.
It's an old problem, I think that it's a way of manage memory for smartphones based on MTK processors and there aren't solutions.
But I would like this to be denied
What about changing sdcard1 and sdcard0 , in the mount point file:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK2O92kgki0
You must be root.
When i have time to root my phone i will try.
I am having the same problem and it is very annoying. Why can't Android leave alone my Sdcard? I only want to storage music and some files there.
@yascooluk
Settings =>storage => default disk write storage "Phone" has no effect. Lots of Apps point to sdcard0, which is now the external sdcard.
@ndouchin
This Solution worked for Android Versions prior 4.3. In Android 5.1 there is no vold.fstab file, and swapping mounting points works differently now, but i didnt' figure it out yet.
Yes you are right, fstab is in boot.img in lollilop, if I believe what I read ;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2426804
Maybe try to unpack and pack boot.img:
http://www.mtkroms.com/2015/02/unpackrepack-bootimg-and-port-kernel.html
Sorry I have no time to work on my device , i have not already rooting it, and the internal memory is enough for me.
I've managed to root my device, but i'm not skilled enough to do this boot.img operation. Too many things that can go wrong. As the source code for this device was already released, I'll wait and hope until some developer can find a solution.
XinternalSD is the solution. Try it. regards
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Hey all,
Has anyone had success using Apps2SD or similar? I have a rooted Z3TC and have been trying to partition and create mount scripts for the microSD card in the app but keep running into an error.
Error:
Mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcblk1p3 on /data/sdext2 failed: No such device
I have posted on the dev forum but wanted to check if anyone in the device specific forum has speciality knowledge. And devs are often worked off their feets!
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Solved.
2nd partition needed to be formatted as ext4. Still a whole load of other issues to sort through, but I have a working version. (Will never buy a device with this small internal memory again!!!)
Soulfulgrey said:
Solved.
2nd partition needed to be formatted as ext4. Still a whole load of other issues to sort through, but I have a working version. (Will never buy a device with this small internal memory again!!!)
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Hello.
I have the App2SDPro app and have not been able to get it to work. Can you explain in more details how you did it? 16GB is always making me delete stuff...but there is no phone that can match this size so I just need to find a way to move apps.
Thanks!
Hi,
I use App2SD since a while due to the ridiculous amount of memory of this device. I have something around 320 applications installed with games, gps/maps... all locally installed.
I don't use the "Link apps to SD card" option but only the "Folder Mount" one.
I barely move everything on the root of the internal SD to a dedicated folder on my external SD card.
The trick is to find the folder on which App2SD has the write permissions. As there is a several location for both internal and external storage location it can require some try/fail tests...
I'm on LineageOS and I use these links to move all the obb folder to the external SD card:
Source=/storage/emulated/0/Android/obb
Destination=/storage/NNNN-NNNN/DCIM/App2SD_folders/obb, with NNNN-NNNN the internal SD name
I have unchecked all the options as I normally prefer to move them manually with a file explorer to make some cleanup in the same time.
For some reasons there was some limitation to move directly the Android folder, so do the same for the /Android/Data folder.
Cheers