I currently have a RAZR maxx and I'm being offered by Verizon to switch to the s iii because of problems with recent replacement phones.
2 questions.
1. Is this a smart move? Newer phone less battery.
2. I have a very old cheap unlimited data plan. I am scared of loosing it. Could that happen? I have lost a text plan this way in the past.
Thanks in advance.
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Is it an upgrade or replacement?
Upgrade will lose your plan.
Replacement will not.
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I currently have a RAZR maxx and I'm being offered by Verizon to switch to the s iii because of problems with recent replacement phones.
2 questions.
1. Is this a smart move? Newer phone less battery.
2. I have a very old cheap unlimited data plan. I am scared of loosing it. Could that happen? I have lost a text plan this way in the past.
Thanks in advance.
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1. If you are like me the less battery part will hurt way to much (granted i am running custom and it crazy battery life).
Came from an s3. I'd take the maxx any day of the week
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I was on a Maxx and loved it. Switched to an S3 and liked it a lot. However I never found the love for the s3 that I had for the Maxx, so I sold it and picked up a cheap Bionic. This has been fun, but later today I am switching back to the Maxx and I'm excited. It is the phone for me.
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S III of cause ! ! !
Look the S III is a better phone by far but the fact that you have a Maxx and you've already experienced such good battery life on a smartphone switching to the S III or any smartphone in fact is going to be "poor" battery life in comparison.
If your looking at getting the S III you'll have to sacrifice battery life, but, in return your getting a Quad Core, better screen and camera, official Jellybean and way better development...
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I own both and switch back and forth. If the MAXX was easily ROMable it would be no contest. I miss Jellybean when I use my MAXX and I miss the battery and radio when I use my S3. Both are great phones. One is hindered by a lousy radio and a small battery, the other is locked and un customizable. I tend to use the MAXX more since I live in a bit of a low lying area and get poor signal to begin with.
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I own both and switch back and forth. If the MAXX was easily ROMable it would be no contest. I miss Jellybean when I use my MAXX and I miss the battery and radio when I use my S3. Both are great phones. One is hindered by a lousy radio and a small battery, the other is locked and un customizable. I tend to use the MAXX more since I live in a bit of a low lying area and get poor signal to begin with.
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since you have both, could you do a voice quality test for what you sound like to others, that is, the quality of the microphone and sound compression algorithms on each Phone? This is an easy test, just read a few sentences into voicemail with each phone and then play back to hear which is most intelligible.
The Maxx has a great battery life. I had the Maxx for a good while and now I have the S3. I don't regret my move at all. Battery life isn't an issue for me. I don't live on my phone anymore since I got home internet now. Wireless Radio is the same as I got on my Maxx. I work in a fringed area and was surprised my S3 was working just as good getting all my calls and texts. The Wi-Fi range on the S3 is a lot better than it was on my Maxx. It's more consistent holding the Wi-Fi and is able to find Wi-Fi farther away than my Maxx did. The S3 camera is the best I've ever used. Picture and video quality are soooooooo nice compared to Motorola's camera work. Their crap sucks. Motorola don't make the best cameras. And I love the camera features on the S3. No shutter lag is great. I use my camera like everyday or every other day. The software is pretty easy to use on the S3 and I love it. The display is amazing. I was like stunned coming from the Maxx to an HD Super Amoled. I think the S3 is perfect sized for my hands and the way I use my phone. I do watch movies and youtube on there so that screen is nice for that.
I use to rock the Razr, then switched to Razr Maxx so I won't knock it too much. I don't regret changing to the S3 at all but everything is a personal preference on how you use your phone. The bottom line for me was I needed a better camera and it's nice to be back on a bigger screen and I like the new touchwiz by Samsung. It's nice to have toggles when you pull down the notification bar. The Motorola ICS UI is cool but was too plain for my taste. Keep in mind this is just my experience. I can't say it will be the same for someone else that made the same switch or vise versa.
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The Maxx has a great battery life. I had the Maxx for a good while and now I have the S3. I don't regret my move at all. Battery life isn't an issue for me. I don't live on my phone anymore since I got home internet now. Wireless Radio is the same as I got on my Maxx. I work in a fringed area and was surprised my S3 was working just as good getting all my calls and texts. The Wi-Fi range on the S3 is a lot better than it was on my Maxx. It's more consistent holding the Wi-Fi and is able to find Wi-Fi farther away than my Maxx did. The S3 camera is the best I've ever used. Picture and video quality are soooooooo nice compared to Motorola's camera work. Their crap sucks. Motorola don't make the best cameras. And I love the camera features on the S3. No shutter lag is great. I use my camera like everyday or every other day. The software is pretty easy to use on the S3 and I love it. The display is amazing. I was like stunned coming from the Maxx to an HD Super Amoled. I think the S3 is perfect sized for my hands and the way I use my phone. I do watch movies and youtube on there so that screen is nice for that.
I use to rock the Razr, then switched to Razr Maxx so I won't knock it too much. I don't regret changing to the S3 at all but everything is a personal preference on how you use your phone. The bottom line for me was I needed a better camera and it's nice to be back on a bigger screen and I like the new touchwiz by Samsung. It's nice to have toggles when you pull down the notification bar. The Motorola ICS UI is cool but was too plain for my taste. Keep in mind this is just my experience. I can't say it will be the same for someone else that made the same switch or vise versa.
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I'm always stunned at the thousands and thousands of detailed reviews and forum posts like this one that never mention, even in passing, how well the phone works as a TELEPHONE. As in, what does it SOUND like. I'm feeling so old now.
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I'm always stunned at the thousands and thousands of detailed reviews and forum posts like this one that never mention, even in passing, how well the phone works as a TELEPHONE. As in, what does it SOUND like. I'm feeling so old now.
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As a Telephone, MY GS3 works perfect. I can hear my callers well, I receive all my calls, texts, and voicemails in real time and not a day or two late like when I was on Sprint with the Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's S2). I can truly say it's my best cell phone I've owned to date. All the other cool stuff is just a bonus
I was a little skeptical because my S2 had a horrible wireless radio. That made me move to Verizon and get a Motorola (Known for good wireless radios). It was good and all but I see nothing less on my S3. Maybe the state I live in just happens to have great towers? Maybe I just got a S3 that doesn't have radio problems. I've read a lot of people had wireless radio problems with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, then some had the problem with the S3, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to make the move back to a Samsung phone. But I did it and it's been a great ride so far. I can't wait for the official Jelly Bean update (when ever Verizon gets that to us lol).
I have an S3, and I am dreaming about the Razd Maxx HD, but since I'm irish, I cant get it here. So that leaves me 3 options.
1., I can stay with S3, and live with that
2., I can switch to Note2, and check how that works out for me. Never had such a huge device, I'm afraid it looks silly when I hold it to my ears.
3., I can buy a Razr Maxx, model from last year, because I really want a good battery life.
which one you suggest for me?
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I have an S3, and I am dreaming about the Razd Maxx HD, but since I'm irish, I cant get it here. So that leaves me 3 options.
1., I can stay with S3, and live with that
2., I can switch to Note2, and check how that works out for me. Never had such a huge device, I'm afraid it looks silly when I hold it to my ears.
3., I can buy a Razr Maxx, model from last year, because I really want a good battery life.
which one you suggest for me?
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I roll with the S3 and I think it kicks the crap out of anything else that's dual core processor. I use to have the Razr Maxx. It doesn't even compare. Only thing better on the Maxx is the battery life. So far the most I've seen out of the S3 battery is a tad over 6 hours of "screen on time" at 13 percent battery left. But that's with 4G off for the most part. My Verizon 3G is fast enough or else I'm connected to Wi-Fi.
The Note 2 looks nice if you don't mind the size. I'm not really a stylus person with my phone so I wouldn't get the Note 2 but it's all a preference.
There's no reason to go to the Maxx. You can get extended batteries for the S3 and most likely the Note 2 since they both have removable backs. The Razr HD is cool. The S3 does have occasional lag on the dual core variants, I can't lie about that but it's nothing compared to the lag I had on my previous Maxx. The lag on that Razr annoyed the crap out of me. I seen some reviews saying it's not much different on the Razr HD. Now if you have the S3 with the quad core processor, I assume it doesn't lag much at all but I can't really say since I've never played with one.
Why are you dreaming for the Razr HD? Besides a step up in battery it seems to be a step down from the GS3 in my opinion. I've read some people rag on the GS3 wireless radio not being good for them but I have no problems with mines. My wireless radio see's nothing less than I did with my Razr Maxx. The Wi-Fi range is better on the S3.
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I roll with the S3 and I think it kicks the crap out of anything else that's dual core processor. I use to have the Razr Maxx. It doesn't even compare. Only thing better on the Maxx is the battery life. So far the most I've seen out of the S3 battery is a tad over 6 hours of "screen on time" at 13 percent battery left. But that's with 4G off for the most part. My Verizon 3G is fast enough or else I'm connected to Wi-Fi.
The Note 2 looks nice if you don't mind the size. I'm not really a stylus person with my phone so I wouldn't get the Note 2 but it's all a preference.
There's no reason to go to the Maxx. You can get extended batteries for the S3 and most likely the Note 2 since they both have removable backs. The Razr HD is cool. The S3 does have occasional lag on the dual core variants, I can't lie about that but it's nothing compared to the lag I had on my previous Maxx. The lag on that Razr annoyed the crap out of me. I seen some reviews saying it's not much different on the Razr HD. Now if you have the S3 with the quad core processor, I assume it doesn't lag much at all but I can't really say since I've never played with one.
Why are you dreaming for the Razr HD? Besides a step up in battery it seems to be a step down from the GS3 in my opinion. I've read some people rag on the GS3 wireless radio not being good for them but I have no problems with mines. My wireless radio see's nothing less than I did with my Razr Maxx. The Wi-Fi range is better on the S3.
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The droid RAZR HD maxx scores much higher than the gs3 in quadrant (I know its kind of inconsistent but its something) and since there will most likely be a custom ROM on the device I doubt there would be much lag. I never see lag on my RAZR maxx and it scores relatively low on quadrant.
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The droid RAZR HD maxx scores much higher than the gs3 in quadrant (I know its kind of inconsistent but its something) and since there will most likely be a custom ROM on the device I doubt there would be much lag. I never see lag on my RAZR maxx and it scores relatively low on quadrant.
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I care more about actual day to day performance. Quadrant doesn't mean much to me. Not to knock it or anything I just don't really care much for it. I've had both so I can truly speak on both. There's less lag on the GS3 and the phone is much better overall to me. Obviously you can't compare battery life. Nothing beats the Maxx/Maxx HD stock battery. When it comes to extended batteries there are some bigger ones than 3,300 mAh for the S3.
You've never seen lag on the stock 211 ICS build for the Razr Maxx? That's pretty cool. With the lag issue I'm more referring to the stock builds of each phone. I'm not talking about custom roms or any over/under clocking.
Thanks for your contribution guys!
I am using a lot of tethering on my phone, so I can create a hotspot for my wifi-only tablet. Thats why the battery is a big deal for me. Other than that, I am using the phone for calls, texts, and sometimes for photos, but I can live without the last one. My GS3 is the european version so yea, it has quad core processor and no lag so far, even though WANAM is cool, I've had some troubles with his rom and with every bigger sized roms too if its about lagging. With HyperLight/HyperGalaxy ROM I have no lag at all, so thats my daily driver atm.
Why don't you just get extended batteries for when you do tethering? There's a good amount out there for the S3, at least in the USA there is. You should look up on ordering some if they got'em over there. I
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As a Telephone, MY GS3 works perfect. I can hear my callers well, I receive all my calls, texts, and voicemails in real time and not a day or two late like when I was on Sprint with the Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's S2). I can truly say it's my best cell phone I've owned to date. All the other cool stuff is just a bonus
I was a little skeptical because my S2 had a horrible wireless radio. That made me move to Verizon and get a Motorola (Known for good wireless radios). It was good and all but I see nothing less on my S3. Maybe the state I live in just happens to have great towers? Maybe I just got a S3 that doesn't have radio problems. I've read a lot of people had wireless radio problems with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, then some had the problem with the S3, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to make the move back to a Samsung phone. But I did it and it's been a great ride so far. I can't wait for the official Jelly Bean update (when ever Verizon gets that to us lol).
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Thanks for telling us how others sound to you. Could you comment on how you sound to others? My experience has been that Motorola phones have always had far superior microphones and compression algorithms so I sound much clearer to the person I'm talking to, whereas Samsung phones have been ****e in comparison.
I sound fine to people I talk to. I never asked them to rank it like 1 - 10 but they say they can hear me good. There's nothing wrong with call quality or wireless radio on my S3. The 4G is actually faster on my S3 when I ran speed test app.
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
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I have experienced none of those issues with the RAZR. Keep in mind that under deep dark conditions with the screen at its lowest brightness setting against a black image, many units show some "smudges" or dots. If this concerns you, definitely check one out in the store ahead of time (try downloading draw! and open the app up on the lowest brightness underneath a jacket or shirt..people will probably stare..let them..haha) and judge how this effects you for yourself. I use mine as a night clock and though I can see some smudges in the middle of the night, they don't bother me.
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I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
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I gave up on the Nexus myself. Lack of USB mass storage was the final nail in the coffin for me. I think the RAZR has the potential to turn out a better ICS device than the Nexus.
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Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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I LOVE my RAZR. Best Android phone I've owned to date. (Prev: Epic 4G, Droid 2, Nexus S, MyTouch 4G, LG G2X, Sensation 4G). Under light use, the battery literally lasts for days if you make proper use of the smart actions. Heavy use? I can't comment on video playback time, but I get about 4-5 hours of 3D gaming before running into battery trouble. There is no filter to help the pixelation around text that the Pentile screen creates, but it doesn't bother me. I find myself impressed by the deep blacks and color reproduction far more often than I do focusing on the Pentile effect, but again, you should view this in person yourself to be sure as everyone is different.
I haven't had the phone very long, only about a week, but so far no issues whatsoever with overheating or freezing at all. This wasn't the case with my OG droid or my droid 2 global.
I got this phone from someone else, so I don't have a contract and will probably switch to the droid 4 when it comes out, but won't consider the Galaxy Nexus at this point, as I can't have a plastic phone. I'm hard on my phones with keeping them in the same pocket as keys, and other items, and have broken many a plastic mounted phone just from that alone.
I do, however don't like the size of the phone overall. I find it a bit too large for me, and have had issues handling it....I'm hoping the Droid 4 has a bit smaller overall dimensions. Also I find the keyboard gives a better grip to the phone...but that's personal preference.
If you're adjusted the Rezound size, you shouldn't have an issue with this.
For screens, this screen is great. I actually was lucky and got one without the dark dots in dark light, so I can't comment on that experience, but the pentile is really almost imperceptible to me. You really have to strain your eyesight to pick up the pentile on this screen. I also agree with brianbrain on the deep blacks and color reproduction on the phone. It's a very good screen, IMO.
I've never owned an HTC phone, but have heard a few complaints similar to what you're talking about with their phones. I know Motorola is not always forthcoming with updates, and they release phones so quickly, you feel they're just out there to screw the consumer, but my experience has been completely different. I couldn't have lived without my OG droid, until the screen went out 1.8 years later, and I had my D2G that was a KILLER phone until I left in Thailand recently. The RAZR is a great addition to the Droid line, and I've had a blast with it since I got it last week.
Phone is awesome. Nothing wrong with this phone. Best phone I've had.
I'm more in live with this phone then the thunderbolt I had. Tbolt felt cheap. screen quality was lacking, and it just seemed slow. I know the rezound is different then the tbolt. But i'm leary on any HTC phone.
The razr feels very solid, very fast and the screen is great (even with the splotches in very low light). I've had battery issues with the media process. I haven't hooked my phone up to a 3.5mm input, so I can't say about any hissing. Having hooked it up to my Bose ie2, it absolutely sounds fantastic.
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I had an Incredible 2, which is kind of the oddball in the HTC lineup as it is one of their only phones that has GREAT battery life (even more ironic considering the T-bolt was so bad and the phones are so similar in hardware) I ended up getting a Razr recently because long story short Verizon was struggling to get 4G going on my tablet on their end so I said screw it and told them to send me a 4G phone.
Even coming from the Inc2, the Razr is a lot better on battery than I thought it was gonna be. Worse than the Inc2 for sure, but it has a bigger display and faster hardware. On 3G (LTE isn't in my specific city yet, but I've used it in others) I make it all day, and I work for 12 hours and use the phone moderately to heavily when I take breaks and get bored. That's acceptable for me considering no matter what I do, I'm gonna plug the phone up at night regardless. When in 4G areas, the speeds are pretty impressive and consistently good. I was averaging 20mbps down and 11-15 up in Augusta, GA.
I played around with the Rezound in the store. It's not a knock on the Rezound specifically, I have not been impressed at all by Sense 3.5. They may as well call it Sense Vista. On the Incredible 2 we have a few Sense 3.5 roms and while they're pretty, to me I can't find the will to run them as a DD because they're laggy. At the time I chalked it up as the Single core snapdragon in the Inc2 struggling to run such a big and graphic intense rom. Then I played around with the Rezound. No real difference. Both are pretty slow compared to Sense 2.1/3.0 honestly. Hopefully Sense 4.0 and ICS will change that, but I'm doubtful given HTC seems to be getting lazier with every new version of Sense.
After a week and a half with the Razr:
Screen rocks IMO
Battery life is better than expected. I go all day (12-14 hours) on one charge, using 4G (maybe 30-40 minutes of phone calls).
Phone is very fast
Width is very akward at first, but you get used to it. First few days you freak out every time you grab for it.
Smart Actions will be great once they tweak them a bit
Voice quality and signal for phone is awesome (coming from an HTC Inc)
I was really wanting a Nexus, got impatient. The battery life, voice quality, and screen on the Nexus would have to be WAY better to make me send the Razr back.
I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
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I'm coming from the Nexus S. Like the phone so far. Motorola did a pretty good job considering I usually like stock Android.
UI doesn't feel intrusive. Motorola seems to have added a lot of useful functions. Been running ICS on the Nexus S, but don't miss it due to the RAZR's hardware.
The phone is amazingly fast. Feel like I've been wasting my time modding the Nexus S so much lately cause the RAZR blows it out of the water even with all the bloatware.
Only problem I've run into so far is blotches on the screen when it is black and the room is dark. Not as bad as some other pics I saw, but still going to try and exchange. Also found a dead pixel.
If I can get a device with a good screen, I think I will stay with the RAZR. I've only seen the Galaxy Nexus display model... possibly might exchange for it when it comes out.
Really like the form factor of the RAZR better tho. If the RAZR had a 720p screen I'd probably be able to easily ignore the Nexus.
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I've had just about every android phone going....nearly ;-)
Actually had the Razr(GSM) for 2 weeks,pretty much loved the phone but was just waiting on the Nexus(GSM).
Well I've had the Nexus since friday,not really impresed,was rooted and custom rommed straight away,buggy as hell.Battery life sucks and that's with GSM, LTE is gonna be even worse.
Cut a long story short,Nexus sold,Razr's coming back. Go for the Razr.
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS [/QUOTE]
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Chelsea FC said:
How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
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Im getting razr tomorrow buying it outright optus network TELECHOICE (GSM AUS)
for $600 from monne ponds vic (told the guy id give him a plug)
i'll let you know how it goes in terms of battery life on GSM
as far as i know motorola's antennas are PRETTY SWEET ... so dont worry about reception.. worry about downloading lots to feed that screen with awesome multimedia and moto cast
samsungs antennas are not bad... but motorola's track record with radios is proven (from UHF RADIOS to SATs experience counts)
nexus has ics but is trolling with bugs i had a play with it ... also looks so ugly next to the razr ... only good thing is the screen .....
however that said the bugs with ics troll the phone making it laggy and you can get jerky playback
so i decided get razr with ginger (motoblur customised to be more like an unbuggy ics) then next year when things perfect the razr will get ics
anyhow thats my rant hope it helps =]
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How is the signal strength compared between the 2? Ive noticed samsung always seems to have a weaker signal...My galaxy s/fascinate has a horrible signal. I want the nexus but the razr is looking sooo nice i can wait for ICS
I would say the Razr is a tad better, moto is renowned for having good radios
Build quality wise there is no contest for me. Nexus is way too slippery and plasticky for my liking. Modders are already working day & night to make the nexus usable, the Razr works pretty much out of the box. 'When' ICS comes, I think it'll blow everything away.
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Hard for me to compare since I'm using T-Mobile and Verizon right now. T-Mobile's reception isn't too great in my area, so that's a main reason for me switching.
So far the reception on my RAZR has been great. Blows my Nexus out of the water in that respect, but not sure how much of that is attributed to the phone itself.
Definitely want to keep this phone... just wish the screen problems didn't exist.
google and motorola
apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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apparently motorola will have more say with ics and customisations seeing as google acquired some share/part of motorola which comes in handy .. for razr and future moto users =D
maybe stuff pushed to us sooner ?
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Got a friend who works over at Moto mobility. He was one of the lead design heads on the Xoom & Droid 4.
The Google acquisition isn't going to truly affect platform builds and blur reductions till late 2H 2012.
They are still working out details on who and what is going where, and how programmers are going to be moved and cut. There's also the small thing of full FCC approval which still hasn't happened as well as EU approvals, which are needed for this (for more info, check out the WSJ article that came out yesterday on the subject). That should be completed by about Feb/March according to him, and then we'll really see some interesting movements. Right now everything is in stasis as far as building and coding are concerned.
So I wouldn't expect any increases in update frequency for a while, and I definitely wouldn't count on Android becoming less bloated on new moto phones for a while to say the least.
There's also been a lot of talk in his office about how Google may not put anything in place, because it could affect their relationship and promises to other handset makers, if they start tweeking with Moto's team a whole bunch.
I'll release info as I get it from him.....although he's interviewing with the automotive division of Moto, as he's not all that satisfied with the position at mobility. They have HEAVY requirements and deadlines, that he seems to think are totally unrealistic....but hey...how many people are really happy with all aspects of their job??
I wonder if the screen issue has been resolved (or even exists) in the GSM versions out there right now. Thinking of getting the Razr but am holding back due to development and the screen issue... Can someone give me an answer about this?
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Was considering holding out for the Nexus
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With a release date of tomorrow, you don't have long to wait on the Nexus, better be at BB early to make sure you get one.
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I just bought the new Droid Rzr today. It seems pretty fast and awesome, however , when I am connected to WIFI, and try to browse in the market, it acts like theres no connectivity. I can browse the web pretty fast when this problem is occuring, then when I disable the WIFI it works. Ive worked for Comcast for five years and I have lots of experience dealing with this kind of stuff, so I know its not the router. Anyone else having this issue?
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I kinda have the same issue with you. I think it could be my router because out of the 3 routers that I have tried, only 1 is experiencing this problem. And only with the Razr that this happens. Something to do with the router and the phone settings? Anyone knows what might be the problem?
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I am on a Rezound and this phone is nice, but it has its share of issues(audio hiss/buzz when aux/headphones plugged in, dead pixels, overheating/freezing) & all are known issues.
I have until Friday to do an exchange with Best Buy. Was considering holding out for the Nexus but due to delay after delay I have my doubts it'll be out before Friday. That being the case, I'm seriously considering a RAZR instead.
Has it been working out well for the most part? Any issues like what I'm experiencing on this Rezound? How does the battery hold out under "heavy use"?(like if I want to watch a few movies back to back). Also, for that "fuzziness" on the text/icons, is there a filter to smooth that out?
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Read my Thread "Galaxy Nexus" I in general (razr) I just got word I'll have my press sample tomorrow so they are going to release after all. They should be at Best Buy tomorrow as well.
Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
When I was on the same boat as you 2 days ago, I have to admit it was the toughest choice I have done in a LONG time.
As it stands your looking at this:
Galaxy Nexus Verizon
-Unlocked Bootloader bust that **** open and destroy it with mods
-Nexus phone, quicker to get updates
-Good battery life. Nothing compared to the Maxx though. But check out the battery life on the 4.0.4 leaked update, it's AWESOME.
Droid Razr Maxx
-Great battery life
-No ICS
-Locked bootloader
-To me it's a Nexus with a crazy battery & motoblur skin.
Now, IF the Razr Maxx gets ICS and an unlocked bootloader it will be: Everything pretty much equal except for these:
Great dev modding community, Nexus updates, good battery life vs. Maxx battery (best battery), great dev modding community
There, I put it in a nutshell for you.
I had the Maxx and returned and decided to return it because I didn't need all the battery it supplied and I can adjust the battery on my Nexus to fit my needs perfectly and spare. Lastly, I don't risk Moto not unlocking the bootloader, but ICS it will definitetly get. It would hurt Moto way too much to not give ICS to the Razr Maxx it's tied for the best phones on the market now the other being the GNex. My personal opinion though ICS won't matter since it's not gonna really look AOSP, Motoblur isn't ugly but it's not the nicest when AOSP ICS is on the GNex.
So it's up to you, can you have some patience with the Nexus and adjust it's battery till you get it right to your usage and make it last 18-20 hours? (More with ext. battery)? I'm in that process now. And not risk Moto not making a fully moddable phone? Take your pick, both are excellent choices. WHATEVER you do if you go GNex don't give up on the battery it's really easy to make it last without limiting yourself to 5% brightness and 2G signal. Just have to pinpoint everything and what's the problem.
Lastly, most and all radio/battery problems are easily fixed (if you have them on stock) by not even rooting. Just unlock bootloader and flash 4.0.4. Best update ever.
**I did not consider Camera and other features because both are just fine for a PHONE camera.***
Good Luck.
It all depends on what your requirements are. Personally, I'm on my phone nonstop all, so anything less than enormous battery won't work for me. Plus I have a prejudice against Samsung phones in general.
Worth noting that the Nexus doesn't have a micro SD slot (although it's NAND flash memory is very fast), and the Razr Maxx's battery is not replaceable (according to Motorola -- I've heard from some VZW reps that it can be done).
Either way, it's a gamble.
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Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Had the Nexus for 3 days then returned it for a razr. That should tell you my opinion.
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Same here. Got a Nexus demo at work for 2 weeks and did not fall in love with it. I hear 4.0.4 fixes battery but twice it went from 80% to 0% overnight doing nothing but 2 email accounts. Also, the Nexus just felt strange in my hand (I have large hands). I did not like where the power button was because i hold it in my left hand to read email and my index finger kept pressing the button and blanking the screen. The Droid Razr Maxx is in similar place but my index finger ends up well below the button when holding. The Maxx feels more secure in my hand and not like it's going to fall out like with the Nexus.
I rooted and did ROMS on all my previous phones (OG Droid, Droid 2, Droid Incredible) and enjoyed doing away with BLUR on my Motorola's but I'm sure I will do the same with the MAXX. I did like the idea of having the NExus with all the latest updates and development but the Samsung phone just didn't seem as well put together as the Maxx.
My speed tests showed the Maxx faster on WIFI and 4G. The 4G fringe areas work much better after the latest update (this past week), and I was having some issues with the Nexus getting 3G network in some light areas and not with the MAXX.
had the nexus for a week. returned it.
Not sure why anyone would want an AOSP phone. It's like having generic frosted flakes.
Battery life is not an issue for me so even though i knew about the maxx, i got the razr. The nexus is just awkward, buggy and just plain. you NEED a custom rom if you get the nexus.
I prefer the HTC sense UI's over anything else. If HTC would just make a thinner, better looking phone, i would jump all over that. You gotta see a ROM with HTC 3.6 and ICS. it will blow you away. I gave my kid the Sensation XL and loaded this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1429953
The greatest ROM i've ever seen. If you want a UI that will just make you smile everytime you use the phone, this is it. But for the RAZR, i'll take motoblur over AOSP anytime.
I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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I don't know how you people like skins over aosp, gross
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For the same reason that there are tons of launchers, widgets, etcc on the market. Because AOSP means, As Obviously Super Plain as possible. Just kidding of course, but AOSP really is out of the box google. It's meant to offend no one, not step on apple toes (like samsung), and not dazzle anybody. It really reminds me of APPLE iOS.
call someone you know on both phones and ask them which sounds better. then call a voicemail with both phones and listen to playback and listen to the difference in how you sound. if everyone did this Samsung couldn't sell a single phone.
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Hello, I have been on sprint with an Evo 4g for a while now, but due to sprints recent coverage change for my area, I might be switching to verizon. so my question is, which would you all suggest i get? galaxy nexus? or Droid razr Maxx? any big devs going for the razr? easy root process? moto going to unlock the bootloader on it? any and all help is greatly appreciated, thanks - Matt
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You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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The 5MP cam on the Nexus is an Absolut deal breaker for me. If it wasn’t for that, if the Nexus had an 8MP cam, it would be a fairly hard choice. But i use my phone cam like crazy so it completely ruled the Nexus out for me.
Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Hi all-
I ended up getting both. I got spoiled very quickly with ICS on my Xoom tablet. I have to admit that I also love ICS on the Nexus as well... However, and this is just my humble opinion.. The battery life is considerably better on the Razr than on the Nexus. Yes I have removed all of the battery draining apps. Tried several roms, Blah blah. On and on it goes. I've spent many an hour doing things that others claim to be the 'solution' to achieving great battery life on the Nexus. Well, I'm here to tell you that as far as I'm concerned, Samsung desperately needs to return to the drawing board and practice up on their battery design as that has been my number one issue with their device to date. Believe me, I got really SPOILED with the Razr's supreme battery performance. I easily achieved two days with it, yet with the Nexus I have not been able to make a full 12 hour day, and this is even with the extended battery. It isn't an ICS issue either as my Xoom plays for hours on end with little concern over battery life. I have also found that RF-wise the Razr wins hands down. I am aware of radio software improvements in ICS 4.0.4 and above. Perhaps with those updates coming down the pike some positives will be made in that area and I'm good with that.
No doubt other Nexus owners will disagree with me and that's fine. I'm only commenting on what *I* have experienced with the Nexus. Even though I have the freedom of running stock Android on the thing which truly is very very nice, I still have to confess that from a hardware standpoint my experience so far has been less than stellar.
I want to wait and see what Moto has up their sleeve with ICS once they implement it on the Razr. I may well take the leap back to it once that happens, but even with the mediocre battery life and RF performance on the Nexus, I plan on retaining it afterward if nothing else as a developer unit as I don't expect Moto to ever release the bootloader on the Razr.
The developers who are cranking out the roms for the Nexus (as well as the Xoom) are incredibly talented. It fascinates me to sit back and watch all of this in action. It makes me wonder where did all of this creativity come from prior to the emergence of smart phones.
Bottom line is that I firmly believe both handsets are worthy of ownership in their own right but I still lean towards the Razr. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
So what kind of future will a Maxx have if I buy one?
I love the things I can do with my Thunderbolt, but want the battery. Will ROM's be as diverse as my TB? I love the CM7 ROM's I have. I am just unclear as to what the bootloader will stop me from doing in the future.
Is it possible that CM9 could eventually work on it?
Are there any ROM's that have the hotspot enabled without the carrier option?
Sorry for newb questions. Just want to make sure I dont buy a phone I hate.
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Can you comment on the quality of *outgoing* voice quality when comparing the two handsets?
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Having had both, didn't notice any difference
jiwengang said:
You do realize this is a Razr forum right? Then you cant possibly expect an objective voice. Those 80% overnight drop to 0% on Nexus is simply untrue or not true for all. Maybe on that unit yes. 4G speed? I don't know. I had a test on two phones side by side and GNEx beat Razr 4 G speed EVERY time buy at least 1mb. This is based on 20ish tests.
Battery life on Razr Maxx is just KING . So original razr is simply out of this competition PERIOD .
Except it is thinnest which you can't really USE that 7.1mm to do anything . Except cutting a cheese.
Gnex is for dev. Its openness is best. Razr Max is for regular user . So depends on which type you are
Disclaimer. I own both phones.
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I also own both phones! I have the Razr Maxx because for work I need to have good call and sound quality and the Razr is awesome in both areas but for the inner geek I have the Nexus which can't be beat for Dev support and updates and pure fun but the sound quality is poor on calls and speaker phone. I have also had many calls where the person I am talking to can no longer hear me.
My advice! Get both!
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I had the RAZR for 2 months now.
One thing I don't like about it, is the display. The colors looks beautiful, but the text doesn't play nice with my eyes. I've heard it's because Motorola uses Pentil display. Other than the display the phone is great, with solid and premium build quality.
Get the Maxx. I got the Nexus when it came out, and I have had nothing but disappointment from it. I really wanted to love it. I wanted to have a *true* google phone... but they just skimped out too much on the hardware.
The cell antenna in it downright blows. It's unusable at my house, where the Maxx works just fine (other people with Verizon phones in my house also work fine).
The camera on the Nexus also blows. It's fine outside, or in really really well lit rooms during the day, but don't even bother trying to take pictures in any kind of low light, they just look terrible. I don't care about megapixels, but I do care about whether or not the pictures look like junk.
The battery on the Nexus blows (seeing a pattern here?). It lasts 12 hours, with very minimal use. It's aggravating to have to run and drop it on the charger as soon as I get home.
There's no SD slot on the Nexus... which didn't matter to me, but some people care. You can still copy files on and off it from windows, and 32 gigs is a lot of space for most people.
The only good thing about the Nexus is the screen, which is admittedly awesome. The Maxx's screen looks pretty good though, even side by side with the Maxx. And don't let the dimensions of the screens fool you, they're very very close in usable size - the Nexus loses a bunch of pixels for its on-screen buttons, which seem to only disappear when watching videos. The height of the screens are just about the same, the Nexus is just slightly wider.
ICS is also SO much better than gingerbread... but if you're here, you can install a ROM and do just fine with the Maxx.
Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Im waiting on a razr maxx to arrive fed ex tomorrow. I am coming from a samsung charge with a total bad experience. Signal,battery and gps issues. Hope this is all solved with the new phone as Im sick of hearing it from the wife. She now swears samsung off and wants a motorola because when she had the dx2 gps was never a problem.
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Had the Droid charge too. After the lousy development, went to the Nexus Galaxy to get the A++ development. It was there, but too much plain ol AOSP for my liking. Saw a co-worker with the razr and instantly loved the blur and exchanged my phone. The 7mm thiness of the phone is just aluring to me. i love handling such a light and thin phone. The little bump on the top backside also helps to give it an angle when i lay it down. Its like the designers thought of everything.
Which ones better in your opinion? and what the battery life on the razr like?
Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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Razr maxx > Gnex > Razr > SGS2
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LOL I wish i could get the razr maxx but its not an option with my carrier..
With those three phones I would choose the Gnex over the Razr because of the screensize and better support. I choose the Maxx because of the battery. The screen isn't as good but it is comparable in many ways and the support for the Razr is improving but will never be as good as the Gnex. I also had a Captivate for 1 1/2 years so I wanted to try something other than Samsung.
Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
galaxy nexus has a really bad battery..i have razr and in terms of speed the razr is same as gnex...only screen is better on galaxy nexus but razr has even better screen than samsung galaxy s2..!i had galaxy nexus and samsung galaxy s2 and now i am with motorola razr...for me the best and winner is razr,it has nice quality build,waterproof,slim and battery is really good,with normal use i get 2 days without charging the battery..google nexus has for me the worst battery ever,12 hours doing nothing and battery already dead and the most stupid thing is that it needed always 3.5 hours to fully charge same as samsung galaxy s2..of curse the most important for me was the camera...hmm yes galaxy s2 has better camera than razr BUT it always stutter omg same thing i faced on gnex and i said what the hell is wrong with samsung cameras?now with razr even camera is super for me with stabilization without any stuttering like samsungs i had...!
p.s
i am really a gadget geek...
i had 3 different samsung galaxy s2...1 used for a week in black color,gave it for iphone 4s which i hated it much already then again back to S2 in white color used it for 3 weeks and gave it for gnex which i used it a week and again back to S2..all had camera stuttering for me and bad battery so i decided to try Razr..and here i am..Rock you like a hurricane as you see i found happines
best voice quality both incoming and outgoing is RAZR, head and shoulders above. that's why i have one. i have to have professional conversations on my phone and cannot afford to not be understood. Samsung phones are for teenagers and people without real lives.
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Surprisingly, neither the gnex nor the razr sell well in my store. (damn iphone).
Obviously for battery life, the MAXX pwns the rest, but I agree with the support base for the gnex and if you've ran ICS on the razr (even half-baked as it is right now) you know it was worth the wait.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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So how good is ICS beta on Razr? I personally have not tried it.
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware acceleration still isn't optimized, but it isn't terrible enough for me to complain. I read that FFC has been fixed, it just hasn't been baked into all ICS roms yet. I was on ICS with my Captivate since the first port in November and I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
The support for the RAZR/RAZR MAXX is more than what people think. Sadly the community is spread across multiple sites, but the RAZR has plenty of ROM's and flashables to optimize speed, looks, and functionality.
I see it the same
RAZR MAXX > gNEX > RAZR > SGS2
gNEX has it beat with custom kernels and open bootloader, and also the screen size. Honestly because those 2 factors, the MAXX has it beat on all other fronts.
Stronger radio, battery, stronger build (gorilla glass, water resistant), and of course battery life. Both phones have nearly identical CPU, GPU, and same RAM -- so performance wise they should be identical.
Anyway.. just my take on it
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It is good for the most part. Slightly laggy because hardware... I just couldn't take being back on Gingerbread with this phone. It has been really good and it will get better because the support is really great.
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Ya, I've been doing a lot of thinking about this qlitchy razr xt912. Just stepped into the pressing 6.11.748 update, still hoping for a smoother operation.
So my question is in part, what is all this hype about the ics? Less bloat? I'm considering doing myself a favor and freezing some of all this crap on my current os.
so what's ics really gonna do for any of us? Just more bloat that we'll have to freeze & remove to have an awesome phone? Sounds like a hassle, that I never woulda expected from Android ... windows, yes... but not Android.
The ics roms have zero bloat and it is much better than gingerbread. It is better in every aspect.
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My friends have all phones mentioned and I have the razr, and everytime I show my phone off to someone new they fall in love with it.
This phone has quality surrounding it. Sound Quality is exceptional on phone calls and music. The screen is bright, and you can get ICS for all the devices mentioned so really that point is mute.
I would get the razr maxx over all the rest for the great battery life.
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So im taking a trip to Verizon tomorrow and really thinking about switching to the S III .....i know it does ship out till the 11 of july but i can wait less than 2 weeks, who cares, i already waited 2 months or so for ICS and thats only cause i did it myself lol...like i said in a earlier post, i see nothing wrong with it but still considering trying out the Galaxy. Only problem i would have with that is that battery doesnt even compare to the MAXX obviously...but was wondering if anyone could list some of the Pros & Cons of each for me to make a better decision...please and thank you!
Ive got one on preorder already.
Ill give it a shot and determine which phone i like better, then sell the lesser of the two.
From all the reviews and the little I've played with it, the gs3 is the better device. On the other hand, the maxx is still a good phone and you have a huge battery. I'd stick with the maxx for now. But thats me. I've only had my RAZR a few weeks so still have that new toy feel
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I can not go back to any phone that had a battery less than the maxx. I don't care how good the phone is. What's the point of a good phone when its dead in 6 hours. I am a HEAVY phone user and the maxx is barely lasting all day and that's great for me. I ordered a sgs3 but just to lock in my unlimited data.I'm selling it and saving the money for the razr hd if it lives up to the hype. My opinion is keep your maxx if you are a heavy user. If you can last all day on a standard battery then try the sgs3.you can always trade or sell it if you don't like it.
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I can not go back to any phone that had a battery less than the maxx. I don't care how good the phone is. What's the point of a good phone when its dead in 6 hours. I am a HEAVY phone user and the maxx is barely lasting all day and that's great for me. I ordered a sgs3 but just to lock in my unlimited data.I'm selling it and saving the money for the razr hd if it lives up to the hype. My opinion is keep your maxx if you are a heavy user. If you can last all day on a standard battery then try the sgs3.you can always trade or sell it if you don't like it.
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I agree 100%, an old Windows Mobile 5.0 phone is far better than a dead GSIII or any other phone for that matter. I'll never even think about buying another smartphone unless it has equal or better battery life in the real world. I don't care what OS it runs, what size screen it has, or how fast it is.
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I agree 100%, an old Windows Mobile 5.0 phone is far better than a dead GSIII or any other phone for that matter. I'll never even think about buying another smartphone unless it has equal or better battery life in the real world. I don't care what OS it runs, what size screen it has, or how fast it is.
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You say you don't care about it's speed, but why do you even buy a smartphone if you don't care. Yes I understand that a smartphone has more features and functions then a dumb phone but how is it to use those features on a slow phone.
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You say you don't care about it's speed, but why do you even buy a smartphone if you don't care. Yes I understand that a smartphone has more features and functions then a dumb phone but how is it to use those features on a slow phone.
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Well it not that the razr is slow xD
It's only slower that the new generation smartphone, but if you are not and hardcore gamer (on a phone XD) a dual core is fast enought the let you casual game, and all the other thing that a smartphone can do
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Well it not that the razr is slow xD
It's only slower that the new generation smartphone, but if you are not and hardcore gamer (on a phone XD) a dual core is fast enought the let you casual game, and all the other thing that a smartphone can do
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You took the words right off my fingertips! I do care about speed but usability is my #1 priority. My RAZR MAXX has enough power to do anything I need/want to do, (check my work schedule, emails, take pictures, play music & movies, navigation) much like any other smartphone on the market today, but it can do it without me having to worry about it dying after 4 hours. I'll wait .3 secs longer for a webpage to load in exchange for peace of mind anyday. Call me crazy
This is the stupidest conversation I have ever heard, the Maxx battery is good.... however, the sgs3 has a 2100mah battery and is no slouch. That is bigger than most extended batteries and has a larger screen, and a dual core snap dragon processor clocked to 1.5 ghz, and has better camera with 0 shutter lag, and has a 1.9Mp camera on front with HD 1080 on rear and 720p with ffc. etc.etc. there are so many reasons to switch, the battery will last all day anyway, OH AND.... it is a removable battery so... there will be an extended battery for it as well and the MAXX will look silly with it battery life. But it is all a matter of opinion. and as for me.... mine is on order and will be here around the 11th.
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This is the stupidest conversation I have ever heard, the Maxx battery is good.... however, the sgs3 has a 2100mah battery and is no slouch. That is bigger than most extended batteries and has a larger screen, and a dual core snap dragon processor clocked to 1.5 ghz, and has better camera with 0 shutter lag, and has a 1.9Mp camera on front with HD 1080 on rear and 720p with ffc. etc.etc. there are so many reasons to switch, the battery will last all day anyway, OH AND.... it is a removable battery so... there will be an extended battery for it as well and the MAXX will look silly with it battery life. But it is all a matter of opinion. and as for me.... mine is on order and will be here around the 11th.
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Let me know how the build quality is, the radios and how often you lose data connection when you get it.
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Let me know how the build quality is, the radios and how often you lose data connection when you get it.
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well, its samsung, so the build quality is better than moto. the radios can be changed but have had good luck with the samsungs radio in the past and same with data connection. but would be glad to report back. again I can't wait to get mine.
Oh, and to the OP... I recommend the SGS3
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well, its samsung, so the build quality is better than moto. the radios can be changed but have had good luck with the samsungs radio in the past and same with data connection. but would be glad to report back. again I can't wait to get mine.
Oh, and to the OP... I recommend the SGS3
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I had a Droid Charge, and the build quality was horrible. Dropped data frequently, and some calls wouldn't even come through. Some people's luck with different phones are better than others. This whole "my phone is better than yours," is just a meaningless **** measuring contest.
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fiktion said:
I had a Droid Charge, and the build quality was horrible. Dropped data frequently, and some calls wouldn't even come through. Some people's luck with different phones are better than others. This whole "my phone is better than yours," is just a meaningless **** measuring contest.
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I agree that Motorola build quality is far superior to Samsung. Both aesthetically and operational wise. I had an original galaxy s, sidekick and charge. Told myself i was done with Samsung after the sidekick, but... I switched to Verizon and got the charge for free. The all suffer the same issues... Slow GPS lock on, plastic materials and a checkerboard browser background. They have good screen and good hardware but the materials are garbage and so is the rfs file system they use.
Thus Maxx does everything right and is built with good heavy materials.
I've had a few HTC phones and they are also built much better than Samsung.
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ryanf said:
well, its samsung, so the build quality is better than moto. the radios can be changed but have had good luck with the samsungs radio in the past and same with data connection. but would be glad to report back. again I can't wait to get mine.
Oh, and to the OP... I recommend the SGS3
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Personally I'm not impressed by Samsung's build quality. They have the most impressive hardware specs in the industry but have some of the absolute worst build qualities in the entire phone industry, they certainly do not feel like a $5-800 phone should. Would it really kill them to put SOME metal on the phone?? Motorola is one of the few manufacturers that uses some form of metal in their phone's body, along with HTC and Apple. I find these 3 companies make the best built phones...everybody else uses way too much plastic for such an expensive device.
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Slow GPS lock on, plastic materials and a checkerboard browser background.
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Yeah. The GPS was one other thing. It would sometimes take up to 5 minutes for a lock on a clear day in the middle of a field. My RAZR can get a lock almost instantly in a building.
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Not entirely sure where the guy who replied sees that 2100 mah is bigger than most extended batteries..it isn't. That is the same size battery that the Nexus extended was, and much smaller than any extended battery I have purchased for prior phones. The thunderbolt had a 2700 mah battery, and the bionic had a 2750 mah battery. Comparable screen, same radios (more or less), and a dual core processor that is running even faster than the Nexus. I had trouble getting 10 hours out of my Nexus with the 2100 in there, I don't see how the S3 will do any better.
I can see it already, all the razr and razr maxx customers that jumped ship for the S3 will be looking for ways to screw verizon into giving them a razr HD when it hits. Just like people have done for every new phone that has been released. Suddenly a ton of unexplained issues keep coming up that a CLN won't fix, and after 7 of them they get a razr HD.
I wouldn't trade my maxx for anything, until the razr hd comes out, but I already have 700 set aside for that.
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I can not go back to any phone that had a battery less than the maxx. I don't care how good the phone is. What's the point of a good phone when its dead in 6 hours. I am a HEAVY phone user and the maxx is barely lasting all day and that's great for me. I ordered a sgs3 but just to lock in my unlimited data.I'm selling it and saving the money for the razr hd if it lives up to the hype. My opinion is keep your maxx if you are a heavy user. If you can last all day on a standard battery then try the sgs3.you can always trade or sell it if you don't like it.
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What's the latest on unlimited data. I just upgraded to the maxx from Samsung fascinate and I was already on unlimited. Do I need to do more to keep unlimited?
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What's the latest on unlimited data. I just upgraded to the maxx from Samsung fascinate and I was already on unlimited. Do I need to do more to keep unlimited?
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When did you upgrade? If it was before the 28th you are fine.
There is always going to be a better phone around the corner but I will be holding on to this one for a while. I can't even think about going to a phone that I have to charge during the day.
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Well, it worked, all the focus was on the battery life, and with the s3... that is upgradable. Or atleast will be. If it is indeed a problem. I dont have a problem with the maxx, just making sure the op makes the right decision. I at least got the conversation off of just the freaking battery. If its build you dont like, fine. If it the fact that it doesnt have any metal, fine. But think about the things you cant readily change. I had a droid eris to start with... a long time ago, i hated the phone because it wouldnt stay charged. The first phone i ever bought an extended battery for. The best thing i ever did for that phone till i got kaos on it. Any way. I personally would never buy a phone that i couldn't remove the battery on. Again personal opinion. I really wanted the galaxy nexus but didnt get because of the non removable battery and no expandable memory. We all make decisions for a reason. Just be sure its for the right ones.
Also, i am sorry if i pissed anyone off. I just wanted to make a point.
Im coming from the Galaxy Nexus.. The phone is great but the battery and signal sucks. Is it true what we hear about the GREAT signal and the killer battery the Maxx has? If im lucky I can get about 2 hours of tapatalk. Signal sucks big time, no sense on talking about that haha. Also I dont know about the development here, but what all can we do? Unlocked bootloader? Any help on the Development and what all we can do is appreciated. Also, on how the battery and signal is... Can you guys stretch the battery out even more with the development you guys have?
Thanks!
BTW, my only switch to the MAxx is for battery and signal. Not so much the development.
Hi there,
I am a first time user too with the razr maxx, in fact it's only since 2 days ago
If you compare the likes of galaxy nexus to the maxx, first thing that will irritate you a bit is the resolution, i myself consider it as a step back from my previous phone, xperia ray. Will be even more painful if you migrate from the nexus lol, but once you forget about it, it's essentially as capable device as a nexus, faster a bit maybe due to decreased resolution and more available ram due to less ram assigned for display but JB non existence hinders it a bit. But i won't consider the JB is a must, because the ICS one is quite zippy too.
The battery is, if i might illustrate it, is a hard to kill but still killable. It depends on your usage pattern. I mean, don't expect a miracle of 2 or 3 online days, but imagine a double battery kit on a single charge, so you will get around twice the time you usually had with the standard Android phone.
About the ROM mods, I'm not sure about that, but the possibilities are there despites the locked bootloader. The ROM slots are available for 2 ROMs when the Boot Menu Manager is installed, so you can tinker with it. The overclock can be done with a module, no custom kernel needed for that so it's quite a flexible device in my POV, because the battery alone is worth it IMO.
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yeah Im chasing battery. I dont the Resolution can be THAT bad.. My wife has the first razr. Im guessing, if I can deal/like that then Id be good to go. ANd yeah as far as battery Im after just a longer battery life. I dont want days just more than 2 hours, if that...
Yep, if you're all about battery life then as they said, there's no any other that can match for a while. But if you're still digging for future proof specs, I'll say wait for the maxx hd. but the same ram size yet the hd resolution (less ram for apps), and the snapdragon soc (which although fast, seems a little bit choppy and not a true a15 class of ARM) makes me think twice so i took the standard maxx rather than waiting for the hd.
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Yeah im getting a pretty much brand new xt912 for 250.
anyone else?
I love the maxx, get it you won't regret it. I haven't been this satisfied with any android phone as I have this one and I've owned 6 different smartphones before I got the maxx. When I am finally due for an upgrade in November 2013, I may go with something like the Note 2 only for the screen size and quad core. But this perfectly fits me now.
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From what Ive read the Note has killer battery too.
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From what Ive read the Note has killer battery too.
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Yep, but battery/screen size ratio is better on the razr so that depends on you. if you're ok with the phablet size then it's your call
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Also came from a Gnex. While I loved the unlocked freedom the device gave me, I had similar complaints over signal and battery life. I learned to work around battery life by having multiple chargers around all the time, but I finally had enough of poor signal and voice call quality. Note: I do believe a large portion of the poor battery performance is due to the radios constantly trying to find a source. Friends that have the Gnex and live closer to towers seem to get better battery life.
Purchased MAXX and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is AWESOME for me. I use the phone however I want, Pandora, GPS, YouTube, wifi hotspot, etc and usually still have 40-50% at the end of day. Signal and voice quality is night and day difference. I now get LTE everywhere as before I used to struggle just to get 3g in the same areas.
I've decided to keep the Gnex as a backup device, and for if I get the urge to ROM or tinker. Who knows, maybe one day Samsung or whoever will finally release some decent radio flashes that will fix it.
Don't plan on ROMing so can't help you there, but there are a few available in the razr dev forum. Root was a breeze, and I find the stock Moto ICS experience fine even coming from JB.
Other than ease of an unlocked bootloader with the Gnex, about the only thing I miss is the slightly larger screen. But I get over that pretty quick with the MAXX's overall performance.
Hope that helps!
yeh I think Ill be in the same position as you. Id give up that stuff for better signal and better battery. Bar none. And Im just going to let my Gnex go, When I upgrade next year this time Im sure the S4 will be out. Hopefully that will be a star device.
S3 my wife. , S+ my son
When i decided to made the change (eventually) from classic to android phone, the battery was the main asset(not regret)moto droid razor maxx perfect for me
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Love my MAXX. Resolution is fine as I am an old codger! Battery life is great as is the reception.
Just turned in a Galaxy S3 for poor reception and poor battery, back to my MAXX. Has probably tainted me against Samsung phones for ages!