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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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carycooke said:
As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
Virus is gone
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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bthomp21 said:
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
Getting a stock Amaze today.
Background: I've rooted, S-off'd, and ROM'd *other* HTC phones before and used ARHD on the Sensation.
I'm looking for root, stability, and good battery life. I don't care much about minor performance tweaks.
Is hasoon2000's all in one tool the best way to root today?
Are any of the rom's a big improvement over stock with no serious side effects?
I know there are FAQs and Wiki's, but I've also been around XDA long enough to ask before diving in to a new phone before I use possibly outdated guides.
Thanks in advance.
You've been around long enough... then I'm sure u can read the dev threads and judge for yourself. Recommendations are for the indecisive
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I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
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I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
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This is xda-developers not xda-helpers, I'd be a little nicer than that if I were you and he has a point, there's loads of threads around here, doesn't hurt to read and do your own research, no two people like the same thing because they should, we all have our own preferences.
sisquoc15 said:
I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
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Stop being lazy and whining. Try the couple/few (not like there's a ton) that are out there and make up your own mind.
Asking whig Rom is better is insulting to devs that may not get mentioned. Read OPs and threads and see if Any known issues are there.
But u have been around a while... I'm sure u know that
Edit.. looks like u run arhd on your sensation... That MAY be a good start don't u think?
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You guys know that it is a running joke everywhere else on the internet how unhelpful people on these forums can be.
This is a Q&A forum. I ask a Q, you might give an A. Here's how to figure it if you should respond:
If know the answer to the question and you have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, go for it. If no, move along.
Instead you've wasted everyone's time and clouded the thread by arguing about the value of the question. At 88 views, at least some people are interested in an answer.
I'm sure you know a lot about this phone and have helped many people, but I don't care if you invented sliced bread if you don't know the answer to my question or have the time to answer it.
If you need help interacting with other people in a forum when you do know the answer to the question, I've provided the template below. You might "sticky" it.
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Hello,
Welcome to our forum. The [wiki/guide] (insert link, maybe if you're feeling super helpful, certainly not required) [is/is not] up to date and is a good resource for [rooting/recovery setup/etc]. I have tried [x,y,z] roms and I find [x] is best for battery life, but [important feature] is not working for [me/other people].
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Again, if you don't know this information or don't have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, you needn't respond.
Your time and efforts are valuable. Don't waste them.
Only if u would put the effort into reading and experimenting as you did your short essay above, this thread wouldn't be needed.
Good luck on your quest
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sisquoc15 said:
You guys know that it is a running joke everywhere else on the internet how unhelpful people on these forums can be.
This is a Q&A forum. I ask a Q, you might give an A. Here's how to figure it if you should respond:
If know the answer to the question and you have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, go for it. If no, move along.
Instead you've wasted everyone's time and clouded the thread by arguing about the value of the question. At 88 views, at least some people are interested in an answer.
I'm sure you know a lot about this phone and have helped many people, but I don't care if you invented sliced bread if you don't know the answer to my question or have the time to answer it.
If you need help interacting with other people in a forum when you do know the answer to the question, I've provided the template below. You might "sticky" it.
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Hello,
Welcome to our forum. The [wiki/guide] (insert link, maybe if you're feeling super helpful, certainly not required) [is/is not] up to date and is a good resource for [rooting/recovery setup/etc]. I have tried [x,y,z] roms and I find [x] is best for battery life, but [important feature] is not working for [me/other people].
_____________
Again, if you don't know this information or don't have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, you needn't respond.
Your time and efforts are valuable. Don't waste them.
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Very well said.
Get used to it because this is how the Amaze forum is....no matter what, you'll get bashed lol
Edit: I recommend you sell your Amaze and get something with more support/development and a better community.
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Truth is the question was not needed
If you want stock look for stock roms
If you want aosp then look for aosp roms
If your looking for pr0n you are in the wrong site, you want xxxda.....
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lonz358 said:
Get used to it because this is how the Amaze forum is....no matter what, you'll get bashed lol
Edit: I recommend you sell your Amaze and get something with more support/development and a better community.
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So you're saying that all the people we helped, all the work we do and all the praise saying this is the nicest community many have ever been apart of in the introduction thread was a lie? Your laziness and lack of understanding is not our fault, we help as much as we can, but some things are truly pushing it. This place is for development, not a play ground for those unwilling to even help themselves.
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Dark Nightmare said:
So you're saying that all the people we helped, all the work we do and all the praise saying this is the nicest community many have ever been apart of in the introduction thread was a lie? Your laziness and lack of understanding is not our fault, we help as much as we can, but some things are truly pushing it. This place is for development, not a play ground for those unwilling to even help themselves.
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This is Q&A, he asked what Rom would you RECOMMEND...this is Q&A rite? If your not gonna answer his simple question than keep it moving...y try to make him look bad?
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lonz358 said:
This is Q&A, he asked what Rom would you RECOMMEND...this is Q&A rite? If your not gonna answer his simple question than keep it moving...y try to make him look bad?
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There's loads of threads of roms with hundreds, possible thousands of post on user input about how the roms run, advantages and disadvantages, no two users would like the same rom, I preferred stock lightly modified by me while gg like quick Droid and Ziggy liked speed rom, do you think I can recommend a rom to them or its a better idea for them to try them out for themselves? I'd recommend stock but he obviously doesn't like stock or he wouldn't be looking for a custom rom, then what? I tell him speed rom is nice because someone said so but I have no clue myself? Like really, grow up, this is no place for childish questions and responses, there was no need for things to get all hostile here, your best option would be to try thing's on your own, if you can't make your own decisions from your own personal liking and experience, then you sir will settle for second best because of your attitude towards it
For the record, what others think about the support on this site, really doesn't matter, this place is for development, not support. We offer help when we can because as a human trait, people do stupid things or just can't keep their cool long enough to sort out an issue. Therefore count it a privilege many take the time out of their day and work to write the multiple guides here and the devs for releasing their work.
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lonz358 said:
.y try to make him look bad?
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Didn't have to try...
On another note... Asking which Rom is better is a flame war waiting to happen and is offensive to the devs whose roms aren't mentioned. And since user experience and needs vary, you will never get a helpful answer. Mix that with all the fanboys in the amaze forum and u get a mess.. how do I know? Cuz there is already multiple threads asking which Rom is better than which.. I READ.
The correct answer is to quit being lazy, read, and try for yourself. Stop getting so butt hurt. I'm not talking about ur mother, just your internet bestie
Get over it.
Why is this thread still even going?
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Here's something XDA is not about...It's not about this ridiculousness. I say this over and over again...we all are here because we share a common interest. What is there to argue, debate, flame, insult, [ad nauseum] about?
Thread closed until I hear from OP.
The rest of you know better.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"~Rush
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any new of a JB rom for the note?
Suzook1 said:
any new of a JB rom for the note?
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It will come when it comes.
XDA Rules....
Suzook1 said:
any new of a JB rom for the note?
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#1 - DON'T ASK FOR ETAS!
#2 - DON'T ASK FOR ETAS!
#3 - IF YOU WANT IT SO BADLY - MAKE IT YOURSELF! DON'T EXPECT OTHERS TO HAND YOU A ROM ON A SILVER PLATTER DAYS AFTER THE CODE IS OUT.
(Stepping down from soapbox)
Anymore questions, m8?
When It's Time Comes
I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi..... I guess some people buy smart phone just to Root keep Installing rom rom rom rom and then sell their phone on Ebay or Cragslist buy New phone and the Repeat the whole process again and again lol
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I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi..... I guess some people buy smart phone just to Root keep Installing rom rom rom rom and then sell their phone on Ebay or Cragslist buy New phone and the Repeat the whole process again and again lol
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Honestly I'm loving cm9 battery life is amazing and everything is crazy smooth. I can wait for jb
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The simple fact that flash won't be supported on jb I see no reason to wait or upgrade to it. Ics is perfect enough for me
THE BOSS AKA THE BEAST !
Cyanogen has already stated in his roms thread in the development section that they are actively working on jelly bean for our device. Be patient and flash CM9 and be happy because this **** is butter.
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Inb4 lock
And CM9 nightly is already smooth like butter.
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skypagers said:
I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi.....
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"Key lime pie"
Kiwi isn't dessert food enough to fit the scheme
Pretty sure the Sticky topic that states "Post all JB Info here" will have some information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737889
It even states all others will be deleted.
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
knoxster said:
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and severAl others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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True, there is thread on the general section tht has the jb thread, is the only one open since other threads will get deleted there so keep and eye on that and what knoxter said is true since jb is out everyone is already "working on it" as we speak. Cm9 for us seems go be very stable since no known bugs have been posted by the devs but the installing of it is weird since cwm touch can't be used and my experience.with Cm9 was tht as.soon as I installed it my.external.sd card went "missing" meaning the system didn't detect it had to go to stock bc all of mybackup root couldn't b Initialized. The devs said they are working on cm10 for us so we have to wait a bit
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knoxster said:
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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What he asked is in the realm of an ETA. It's a useless thread. People are harsh because crap like this clutters up the forum for no good reason. Also, it puts pressure on the developers, when we should just leave them develop in peace, as that will allow them to get jb working sooner.
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Guys! Give the guy some slack! You're gonna scare him off. Like alot of us, he's just excited. Be happy he posted cause we all started off asking similar questions about our G1's or Hero's. Chill out on him! And noone is putting pressure on the developers but themselves. They do it cause they wanna not cause theyre being forced to. Half this threat is informative and the other half is DOUCHE! If you dont like that he posted it then send him a link to the OG JB thread. Done.:good:
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Guys! Give the guy some slack! You're gonna scare him off. Like alot of us, he's just excited. Be happy he posted cause we all started off asking similar questions about our G1's or Hero's. Chill out on him! And noone is putting pressure on the developers but themselves. They do it cause they wanna not cause theyre being forced to. Half this threat is informative and the other half is DOUCHE! If you dont like that he posted it then send him a link to the OG JB thread. Done.:good:
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Preach it brotha!
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We're not going to scare him off, he's got nearly 400 posts, I doubt he would leave because somebody told him not to ask for an ETA. And he should probably know that threads like this are useless. People have to learn somehow that threads like this should not be posted, period.
And you can't say people asking for stuff doesn't put pressure on the devs, as we've already had two top notch devs leave xda due to people asking too much of them and posting stupid stuff. If people don't learn the in's and out's of xda, more devs will follow.
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We're not going to scare him off, he's got nearly 400 posts, I doubt he would leave because somebody told him not to ask for an ETA. And he should probably know that threads like this are useless. People have to learn somehow that threads like this should not be posted, period.
And you can't say people asking for stuff doesn't put pressure on the devs, as we've already had two top notch devs leave xda due to people asking too much of them and posting stupid stuff. If people don't learn the in's and out's of xda, more devs will follow.
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Damn! They left? That's messed up. If i were a dev i'd tell people messaging me "either pay me a bill or two or just wait in line like everyone else" haha
COA4178 said:
True, there is thread on the general section tht has the jb thread, is the only one open since other threads will get deleted there so keep and eye on that and what knoxter said is true since jb is out everyone is already "working on it" as we speak. Cm9 for us seems go be very stable since no known bugs have been posted by the devs but the installing of it is weird since cwm touch can't be used and my experience.with Cm9 was tht as.soon as I installed it my.external.sd card went "missing" meaning the system didn't detect it had to go to stock bc all of mybackup root couldn't b Initialized. The devs said they are working on cm10 for us so we have to wait a bit
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I use CWM touch to flash each and every nightly...
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I use CWM touch to flash each and every nightly...
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U.got the latest on a zip file?
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knoxster said:
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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Right on!
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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dnle71 said:
I am also regular at this site everyday. But, some noobs just want the dev's to get out of this community.
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They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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They are gonna enjoy when all of us will be moving to other devices. Arjen already bought S3
I'm going too.
Adam is going for nexus 7, soon enough
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Its true they say. one bad fish spoils the entire pond
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Yes, but there ain't any one single N00B fish in the O1 pond. There are many
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Completely aggree.
The main problem (just my point of view) is that those "noobs" ignore any compents (if I think on hephappy's thread) and think they know everything.
And because they don't work on there own project, they don't know how much work (all in the free time of the devs) has to be done.
Don't worry
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
Rom manager -> Download rom -> hephappy -> Select rom
No more xda = no more noobs...
Rom manager note:
ROM hosting is free. ROMs hosted via ROM Manager Developer Portal will be listed
in the free section 5 days of the week. The other 2 days of the week, it will be
listed in the premium section. The days may vary from developer to developer
so not all developers are in the premium section at the same time.
Woohoo okkayyy
hephappy said:
Don't worry!
My roms are available via Rom Manager.
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Thanks Hep...
I do not have ROM Manager on my phone till now, but will use it - only to be connected to your ROM updates !
don't know about others but I appreciate your hard work and will continue to do so no matter what
_Arjen_ said:
I have been a regular user for a long time here and I don't like what I see and read here the last weeks.
Users being disrespectfull,demanding etc. And why?
People are working hard on the things they like to do most: hacking, porting, developing. But the reactions some get...
We have rules here at XDA,but some things are also just common sense.
Please show that you know how to behave and it will be more fun again for all of us.
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Well you are complety right im a xda user for almost 2 years and this setion was fun thanks to devs. and users but in the last 2 months appears so many new people ho now everything altouhg im not a dev and only start about 2 days learning how to modify well you guys have all credit from yesterday i build JB just for learning propuses and that gave me an ideai of what you guys do for free but noobs keep sayng others phones why ours dont lol just lol what i think is more worst is that they dont read first before postimg stupid stuff android its not made only for p500 and android versions evolve like the new phones evolve if we want new stuff we need other phone we cant push more for this awseome device that was my first android device and thanks to this comunity open source now i have 3 diferent devices of course we cant buy what we want whenever we want but noobs have to learn how to trust devs. if they say this is impossible to rum thats because its RESPECT TO M.A.C. TEAM AND ALL OTHERS THAT ONLY GEEKS THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING I LEARN AND AM LEARNING ABOUT ANDROID IN A GENERAL WAY.
.spcealy arjen ho already give me tipes and with them i put CM9 working in my tablet thanks a lot.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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You are all free to go but your attitude is kind of disgusting. Noobs you say? I bet you are noob also if I speak of something you don't know. Learn to respect everyone before pretending to be respected... And by the way, I can say that EVERYONE showed A LOT of gratitude for the hard work of you developers and LOVE you.
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I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
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I kinda agree here, developers get all the respect, praise and following but they get bossy and abusive at times. Evrerybody likes to have good ROMs but not at the price of self respect I guess.
Everybody has a noob stage in life or maybe someone who you call noob at XDA might be a scholar in his field so XDA is not the end of the world. The best way to treat somebody who you dont like is to 'ignore'.
If a dev has 500 fans and 50 of them are ignorant noobs, even then its not a bad deal.
MORAL: Everybody start giving respect, dont be short tempered, value devs work and try to ignore if thats the only option.
Cheers!
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Everybody is a "noob" at one time.Lot of people think they are the boss and call others noobs, but that pretty much wont last long.I ain't a developer but love all the developing works in here.Its really obvious from the thank meters of great devs, how much respected they are in this community.
Not anybody is born really intelligent and talented.
Everybody learn something from others and improve it.That is how the system works.
Everybody has their own field which they are perfect at.In that field, the "bosses" in here could be noobs.
I think everybody should learn to respect others to gain respect.
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Lots of ego stuff, from both sides
Me too,going to get sgs2.
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100% Noob for Reason and Courtesy
I have been a professional developer but for internals and ROMs, I am 100% "Noob." Most of what I see on this little thread is much less than helpful. Enough already.
Anyone who read my posts would see that my tone does not fit the stereotype be harangued here. I do not use the F word, the S word, make ridiculous claims and demands of more experienced (fantastic!) "Devs." Any suggestions I make are with respect and humility. Maybe the ideas will pan out, maybe not.
If I do not have CM10 on this old phone, I am delighted with ICS. (Indeed, Google Now will soon enough work here without JB, a matter of time and ingenuity.) I do hope JB (or as I have termed in more realistically "Jelly-Sandwich") will work on the phone, but there are other things in life. I did not enter XDA for all the negativity and tension. Friendship and respect are more important the ROMs and tweaks.
I dont read p500 so munch like old time, im have buy new device and i busy with that, but this problem has rolling day by day, even before arjen and adam start developing here, it has make alot of casualties like andy, doctornotor, etc..
What you expect from from developer?
Their ideas, their works, their time, so i think they must have bigger egos than me, im just a Leacher... Just download and give feedbacks if you like their works, or leave it like that if you hate he/his works. No need flaming, another person have their glasses and viewpoint.
Xda is made for us. we here for our needs, even every devices will death development, we just try make as long as we can, and flaming is not the way to make our beloved p500 ageless like htc hero...
Thx for all developers That i known for 1.5years till now day in this section... GBU.
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Arjen, I shall call franco here
He was the most obsessed by noob questions
You believe that a kernel dev recieved PMs regarding how to flash kernels. Lol
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Arjen, can I request you to close this thread? I could understand your good intentions behind starting this thread but this is going totally in a different direction. I hope all of you agree with me that tit for tat attitude is not good for anybody. Its high time that we stop all this and come to normal mode, cooperate and make this community a great place to do better things.
Hey guys, I have had my VZW Note II for a few months now, and I tried to root/unlock it a few weeks back but ran into multiple issues that prevented me from completing the process (specifically the unlocking posed problems, no doubt because of my own mistakes).
My question is, what is the state of G Note II modding right now? I came from the GNex (rooted) and it had a very robust community, but it seems like the difficulty with unlocking this phone might lead to a less vibrant set of options for flashing. Is this phone getting a lot of dev attention or is it not worth the trouble to crack?
This is subjective, I know, but give me your opinions if you dont mind! Thanks in advance!
This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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kintwofan said:
This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
Mindstar1 said:
I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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DO NOT POST YOUR QUESTION THERE! This is in the right place my point was go to them and look at the different ROMs. If it is good enough for you or the is a ROM you want to try then you answered your own question
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There is no good answer to this. What is mainstream for one person is early-adopter for another. The right answer is to do some reading in the ROM/kernel threads and decide your own comfort level. That you asked this question makes me think you should wait. I would say that dev for this device is still gaining traction. It's only been out a couple of months.
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There are half a dozen or so Touchwiz based ROMs and at least that many AOSP ROMs. Add in 4 or 5 kernels and considering the we only got the bootloader unlock about two months ago, I think development has been great. In all honestly, I am not sure how many more ways ROMs can be tweaked...there might be some diminishing utility after 10+ ROMs.
I got my phone about 10 days ago, and had it rooted/unlocked within a few hours. I didnt have any issues at all getting it there. I made sure not to accept the VZW OTA update, and when I saw it was going to force me to update within 5 days, that forced my hand to go ahead and root it.
I just used the following guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207 to root it, and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636 to unlock it.
If you have accepted the OTA update, your steps change, and you'll use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348 to unlock it instead.
I personally havent messed with AOSP roms. Coming from GNex that was all I ran, and I'm enjoying a slick TouchWiz setup right now. I remember on my Droid Charge, having NO desire to keep TW, but it's a lot better on this phone.
I am a Charge refugee as well...what a difference the Note 2 is. I've run CleanRom and three builds of Beans. Don't think I want to give up some the the Touchwiz features for AOSP...at least until key lime pie comes out.
Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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nosympathy said:
Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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Mindstar1 said:
Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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nosympathy said:
I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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nosympathy said:
I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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Mindstar1 said:
My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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Your question was not worded very well to say that since you wanted to compaire it to the gnex. A quick look in the development sections shows what is available. My previous points still stand. Always see these threads at least 2-3 times in the 6 months i own a phone that isnt a nexus.
ezas said:
I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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Sorry I've been around long enough yo get frustrated by people on this site. I've also been saying the same things for months and linking to the XDA rules doesn't make people care, giving them harsh statements do.
If OP wanted his question answered he could have searched. Plenty of info is available.
My views have become, if you haven't searched and then are asking why or if you should do something, you shouldn't do it at all and shouldn't ask if you should.
Search first then ask questions.
If you want to compare the Gnex to the Note2 development, all you have to do is look in both forums and see how many ROM/athreads are in the dev sections. Weather you unlock or not has nothing to do with it. Do it or don't.
In answer to the original poster, yes it is worth unlocking.
The beans and cleanrom roms alone add enough polish to warrant it.
The ability to take a nandroid is worth it. Everyone backs up their computer..... so why not a tablet
There is a kernel or two? That work with stweaks for cpu/gpu power control. A forum member also put together some nice flash able profiles for it even. If you want to increase battery or performance it's possible.
Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you. That can't be flashed without a recovery....
Because it came with a locked bootloader of the start, there seemed to be a delay with devs because they first had to figure out how to unlock it to begin development. Now that is unlocked the wheels seem to be moving pretty good.
On a side note, if I recall correctly there may be a way to run international roms on it. You would want to research, I haven't really looked into it. Could be wrong.
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Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you.
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The original modem has faster 3g for me, but the new one has better connectivity and speed on 4g. I wish we had combined modems with ie. 3g from one modem and 4g from the other.