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HTC One X+ Hands On Review Gaming

For sure a good upgrade of htc one x and a good phone. HTC <3

Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.

hawrai68 said:
Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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Maybe the power saving mode is on?

Sharpshooterrr said:
Maybe the power saving mode is on?
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Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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Dibben said:
Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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You mean even with power saving mode off?

I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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uqadwe said:
I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.

We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.

ryanjsoo said:
We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.
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Thanks for great explanation..so is this fixable and has it been done for the One X already? ( link if poss? ) Been thinking of taking it back due to issues of lag on lower specced games.

never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread

hawrai68 said:
Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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uqadwe said:
I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
Sent from my HTC One X+
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ectodroid said:
Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.
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So it sounds like HTC thought they were amazing by coming out with a tegra 3 device, quad core, clocked at 1.7gh, and cannot play efficiently games such as doodle jump, angry birds, etc? WTF??? Basically if it's not a tegra 3 specific game (only a handful out there to begin with) this phone is basically as good as an iphone first generation when it comes to gaming? WTF is HTC thinking? Above that to make this device work the way it should being talked about so much online about how amazing the processor, tegra 3, quad core, blah blah blah is, we need to go far beyond voiding warranty with root and custom kernals? Epic Fail anyone?
Damn, was really looking forward to picking this device up as soon as it came out on ATT but more i actually read about user reviews, the specs on paper mean crap!!!
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hamdir said:
never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread
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Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow

deeznuts said:
Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow
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well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong in your scenario so don't generalize yet
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess

hamdir said:
well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess
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If you can imagine i've just never even used an android device ever and currently using an iphone 4. Waited for the 5 to come out but not impressed with it's specs at all and with no jailbreak that device is completely useless! Did some research and really love what i see in this phone and all the video reviews and what not. Even went to an ATT store to play with the original HOX and liked it. Really looking forward to this when it comes out to ATT in USA.
Just i really game a lot, watch videos, etc with my phone so though this phone would be number 1 in that department but reading more and more stuff like this it sounds like this device is very sub-par when it comes to basic gaming which worries me.
Sorry if i came off rude as there was no intent to the developers on the creation of these hacks, greatly appreciate all their work and time. Just trying to understand what a root is, what a kernal is, etc etc, i think i need a college class on android! Lol. Guess i was spoiled on how easy Apple Ios is and especially all you need is 1 simple jailbreak to unlock it all. Seems there's about 6 different kinds of "jailbreaks" when it comes to android in order to have everything unlocked, root, s-off, custom kernals, etc that i probably still don't even know about. Just trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff but for me it's dang confusing.
As you can see from my sig that last time i was around was the HTC Tilt2 days and wm 6.1 and when basically sense original first came out.

@deeznuts like i said no way it should face trouble running most games
the original complaint came from hawrai68 maybe something is wrong with his set up

Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.

ryanjsoo said:
Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.

Sharpshooterrr said:
Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Game...-optimized-for-Googles-Nexus-7-tablet_id32493

ryanjsoo said:
especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Hats off to hamdir

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andreno 220 sucks

Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
Congratz on on your first post...HATER
Funny, I'm not really having the lagging issues. I'll get a random stutter from time to time, but I've seen that on every phone, regardless of chipset.
Can you try to get a logcat going while you are playing so we can see what may be causing it, maybe an app syncing or something.
kosmos2011 said:
Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
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so what your saying that it sucks ONLY for emulators? because i havent tried them but for everything else i say it works flawlessly.
n64oid doesn't care what gpu you are using.
That's interesting to hear. I may have to try it out. Mario Kart ran really smooth on my Epic.
I think you failed to mention that the dev of the N64oid said hell update the app to take advantage of the dual core. Its the app not the phone.
Anyways as with most trolls, opinions always trump the facts.
kosmos2011 said:
Andreno 220 doesnt beat tegra in real world performance, benchmarks are bias, ive tried n64oid on my phone and n64oid on my buddies tegra 2 atrix, mario kart stutters as well as sound on evo 3d, ive tried multi roms, atrix runs sound and game perfect, no sound issues or stuttering gameplay, goldeneye runs like crap on evo where atrix is running full speed, both phones non rooted or oc'd. Gameloft games run good on andreno 220 like nova 2 and spiderman, modern combat 2 runs great but not n64oid, i thought this be a stepup from evo 4g which did the same, my only answer is snapdragon cpu sucks with emulators cause ive heard emu run off cpu. What really pisses me off is theirs guys on here saying mariokart runs flawless on evo 3d but it runs stuttery on my phone, qnd im not a noob ive had cm7 on my evo 4g so being rooted increase performance but theirs no root for 3d evo yet so what gives, ik running n64oid v1.1.4 :.......... Any help would be great ive seen vids of htc desire hd running mariokart perfect and its not even dual core is their a setting im missing ive tried max frame skip on 10 and on 0
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Go buy an Atrix? Yeah, sounds good to me.
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
Get out of here Samsung fan boy, spreading your lies and deceptions. Your 1 post isn't fooling any of us so GTFO!
Edit: June 30th 2011, haha. Did you really subscribe just to say that BS on this forum? You are pathetic.
Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
kosmos2011 said:
Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
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So instead of simply just asking for help, you have to give all this extra input of how terrible the GPU is. hmmmmmmm, GL with that help, but #1 I don't do N64, never owned one (I will be doing PSX this weekend). #2 I dont like your method, but maybe others will help.
Does the emulator even use the gpu? Why not do a test with something that does!
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Dont these emulators not even use the gpu?
Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Congratz on on your first post...HATER [/QU
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kosmos2011 said:
Im not a hatet i love my 3vo and old evo 4g im just angry cause my buddies lower tech phone runs n64oid perfect and the new gpu which they claim trumps the tegra 2 by 7% im not seeing it on my phone, which is why im asking if its something else thats wrong, so if anybody can test id really appreciate it, u can download free apk at slideme just google it so reply back with results, maybe his emu isnt good with andreno gpus
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The Atrix is a lower tech phone by... the SMALLEST of percentages. 7%?. you realize that isn't 70% right?
Atrix is a dual core as well, it's not "low tech" by any means.
also, been out long enough for the developer of N64roid to probably, I dunno, update his app to work better with that one.
give it some time, it's a brand new phone and needs to be updated for. patiences
toxicfumes22 said:
So instead of simply just asking for help, you have to give all this extra input of how terrible the GPU is. hmmmmmmm, GL with that help, but #1 I don't do N64, never owned one (I will be doing PSX this weekend). #2 I dont like your method, but maybe others will help.
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I don't like your method either. It's pretty f'n annoying.
rockky said:
Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Accept it isn't an issue... it uses cpu not gpu, and it hasn't been updated to support our phones. so.
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rockky said:
Gotta put up with idiots like this, OP when bringing up issues with the beloved 3D.
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Yea I'm the idiot cause he came in here spewing crap instead of asking for someones assistance on the matter. I think Toxic pretty much summed it up in his post. Nothing else to say on this matter. Someone is more than welcome to help him out, I just think he went about it wrong. End of story.
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ydoucare said:
I don't like your method either. It's pretty f'n annoying.
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Your annoying, haha
BTW I'm sorry I annoyed you. Is there anything I can do to gain your forgiveness?

Gaming on Android is getting serious-good sign at last?

The only area that users of iDevices can really say their devices are undeniably better is gaming.We all know that,and until recently I have to admit I was kinda jealous.I was almost ready to buy an iPad just to play Infinity Blade.Happily I didn't as things are getting better.
Up until recently,the best-looking and closest to console quality games were Dead Space and Asphalt 6.I mean,Angry Birds are nice for making time pass by on the subway,but that's about it.Asphalt 5,NOVA and Modern Combat 2 were so-so,but not nearly enough.Not to mention that NOVA 2 was a disappointment.Graphics were kinda better than NOVA,but gameplay and controls were seriously lacking.GLU games are also somewhat good at the beginning,but are repetitive,they get boring after a while and seriously,I won't spend 50€ in GLU credits as long as my brain serves me well.
Then Modern Combat 3 came out.This was the game I had been waiting about.Graphics,storyline and gameplay-all were awesome.It was the first title that could really claim it was "console quality".Things have got better since,especially with games by Gameloft and EA.Mass Effect is really great too.But my only complaint now is that all these are REALLY short.I ain't the most hardcore gamer,especially on mobile devices,but I finished Mass Effect the day I downloaded it.MC3 may have online mode but bleh,I don't want to sell my house to pay the data bill.Plus when I'm home I have a PC and a PS3,I won't play on my phone normally.
3 days ago NOVA 3 came out.And...OMFG!This is the best-looking game I've ever seen on a mobile device of any kind.And to tell you the truth,I don't think I remember many PS2 games having this kind of graphics.And its gameplay and controls are vastly improved over NOVA 2.It's much closer to MC3 actually.Plus,even MC3 didn't push the hardware to its limits.My Desire HD had no problems playing it with a pretty playable gameplay-it wasn't too noticeable,just not 100% smooth.Not to mention the Galaxy S 2,it didn't break a sweat.But with NOVA 3 things are different.My GS2 struggles to play it properly sometimes.It only plays perfectly if I overclock the GPU,but then it overheats a bit.I won't even bother playing in on the Desire HD and will be waiting for my GS3 to fully enjoy the game in all its glory.I haven't finished it yet-that's a good sign,although I haven't played too much these days.Still,it seems it has some duration and the storyline unfolds nicely.
NOVA 3 is another step in the right direction,after Dead Space,MC3 and Mass Effect.We shall wait and see what Asphalt 7 brings on the table.But what's your opinion,guys and gals?Are things for Android gaming getting better?Will we really enjoy "cosnole-quality" games from now on?The hardware is surely powerful enough to give the opportunity.And most importantly-are the aforementioned games a sign that NVidia's dream of monopolizing gaming on Android won't come true?I sure hope it's like that(I'll avoid buying a Tegra device as long as I have another choice)
The games are still too short and too simplistic. Best game I've played is Anomaly Warzone Earth.
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The games are still too short and too simplistic. Best game I've played is Anomaly Warzone Earth.
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The simplicity of games is slowly being fixed.As I said,games like NOVA 3,MC3 and Mass Effect are really good.Anomaly Warzone Earth is good,and is different than other tower defense games.
The information is very interesting. I like the post.
What I don't like about Android as a gaming platform (ex GS2 user) is the fact that nearly every time a very good looking game comes out it makes your hardware outdated. The example with MC3 is a good one: when it came out it lagged in a very annoying way on my GS2. I guess that as soon as say MC4 comes out it will be too much already for the GS3, and so on. Honestly it doesn't sound fair that I have to upgrade every 6-8 months in order to keep up with the latest games just because of rough ports. I really hope that this is gonna change in the future, also because I'm getting an Android tablet (or phablet, I still have to decide) soon, and I'd be pleased if it served me as a gaming console for more than a few months before it can't handle anymore the latest and greatest incarnation of my favorite game. On iOS people can play MC3 100% smooth on a simple iPhone4, we deserve nothing less as end users IMHO.
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vnvman said:
What I don't like about Android as a gaming platform (ex GS2 user) is the fact that nearly every time a very good looking game comes out it makes your hardware outdated. The example with MC3 is a good one: when it came out it lagged in a very annoying way on my GS2. I guess that as soon as say MC4 comes out it will be too much already for the GS3, and so on. Honestly it doesn't sound fair that I have to upgrade every 6-8 months in order to keep up with the latest games just because of rough ports. I really hope that this is gonna change in the future, also because I'm getting an Android tablet (or phablet, I still have to decide) soon, and I'd be pleased if it served me as a gaming console for more than a few months before it can't handle anymore the latest and greatest incarnation of my favorite game. On iOS people can play MC3 100% smooth on a simple iPhone4, we deserve nothing less as end users IMHO.
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MC3 has some problems on the GS2.As I said,it plays quite well on the Desire HD,so no issue here.Just on the S2 the level where you are on the back of a truck and shoot others is lagging like hell.It's not that the hardware can't handle it,something is just wrong.It even lags on my overclocked device at that point Apart from that it plays perfectly smoothly.
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Yeah, it probably is device related. However, I found that the textures are more detailed on the GS2 compared to other phones: a friend of mine has a Desire S and I must say that textures are worse on that device. This may actually be the cause of the random laggyness you get at times, maybe the developers overestimated the power of the Exynos SOC when they were working on the port...
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Hardware is getting serious. Games will follow suit.
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Glad my SGSII is a beast and makes even 8-bit games look 2D. Lolololol
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Custodian said:
Glad my SGSII is a beast and makes even 8-bit games look 2D. Lolololol
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Dunno about you guys,but I saw a trailer of Dead Trigger and I just realized for the 413513122th time that I hate NVidia so,so much...
tolis626 said:
Dunno about you guys,but I saw a trailer of Dead Trigger and I just realized for the 413513122th time that I hate NVidia so,so much...
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Lol
Daily realisation. Those guys aren't serious, that's why AMD got the PS 4. Qualcomm are stomping all over them with adreno.
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Lol
Daily realisation. Those guys aren't serious, that's why AMD got the PS 4. Qualcomm are stomping all over them with adreno.
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Right.NVidia's guys act as if their chips are the best you can find.Still,the super-duper-wow all powerful almighty ULP GeForce GPU in the Tegra 3 is a direct competitor to the Galaxy S 2's GPU,not even the Adreno 225!And they get the best games.How ****ed-up is that?I just hope gaming companies realize that NVidia is full of ****.Sony did at least...
Yep. Games such as Nova 3. Fifa 12. Shadow Gun n many more are ramping up android finally
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The only area that users of iDevices can really say their devices are undeniably better is gaming.We all know that,and until recently I have to admit I was kinda jealous.I was almost ready to buy an iPad just to play Infinity Blade.Happily I didn't as things are getting better.
Up until recently,the best-looking and closest to console quality games were Dead Space and Asphalt 6.I mean,Angry Birds are nice for making time pass by on the subway,but that's about it.Asphalt 5,NOVA and Modern Combat 2 were so-so,but not nearly enough.Not to mention that NOVA 2 was a disappointment.Graphics were kinda better than NOVA,but gameplay and controls were seriously lacking.GLU games are also somewhat good at the beginning,but are repetitive,they get boring after a while and seriously,I won't spend 50€ in GLU credits as long as my brain serves me well.
Then Modern Combat 3 came out.This was the game I had been waiting about.Graphics,storyline and gameplay-all were awesome.It was the first title that could really claim it was "console quality".Things have got better since,especially with games by Gameloft and EA.Mass Effect is really great too.But my only complaint now is that all these are REALLY short.I ain't the most hardcore gamer,especially on mobile devices,but I finished Mass Effect the day I downloaded it.MC3 may have online mode but bleh,I don't want to sell my house to pay the data bill.Plus when I'm home I have a PC and a PS3,I won't play on my phone normally.
3 days ago NOVA 3 came out.And...OMFG!This is the best-looking game I've ever seen on a mobile device of any kind.And to tell you the truth,I don't think I remember many PS2 games having this kind of graphics.And its gameplay and controls are vastly improved over NOVA 2.It's much closer to MC3 actually.Plus,even MC3 didn't push the hardware to its limits.My Desire HD had no problems playing it with a pretty playable gameplay-it wasn't too noticeable,just not 100% smooth.Not to mention the Galaxy S 2,it didn't break a sweat.But with NOVA 3 things are different.My GS2 struggles to play it properly sometimes.It only plays perfectly if I overclock the GPU,but then it overheats a bit.I won't even bother playing in on the Desire HD and will be waiting for my GS3 to fully enjoy the game in all its glory.I haven't finished it yet-that's a good sign,although I haven't played too much these days.Still,it seems it has some duration and the storyline unfolds nicely.
NOVA 3 is another step in the right direction,after Dead Space,MC3 and Mass Effect.We shall wait and see what Asphalt 7 brings on the table.But what's your opinion,guys and gals?Are things for Android gaming getting better?Will we really enjoy "cosnole-quality" games from now on?The hardware is surely powerful enough to give the opportunity.And most importantly-are the aforementioned games a sign that NVidia's dream of monopolizing gaming on Android won't come true?I sure hope it's like that(I'll avoid buying a Tegra device as long as I have another choice)
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awesome stuff man the games are getting way better.
you said you overclock your S2 right?
you also said your are waiting for the S3, but doesn't the S3 have the same GPU as the S2? i hear its an overclocked Mali-400 @ 400mhz
the S2 is also a Mali-400 at 286 mhz i think... so what did u overclock your S2's GPU? i really wished Sammy used the Mali-T604 GPU but im still on the fence on getting the S3...yes it does have 2GB of RAM but i still haven't found a Android that can match the GPU power of my iphone4S PowerVRSGX543MP2 that is one badass GPU i love Android and what it stands for... but i have yet to find a device worthy enough to replace my iphone4s , i mainly use it for gaming, i do use a android phone for daily use cause android OS works for me better than IOS but not with gaming... maybe ill wait for the adreno 320 or Mali-T604 or Mali-T628....
Anriod game
I think the andriod game is so good.Easy to learn and play.If we can use the tablet to play games.It will be better.More tab,www。netacce.com
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Right.NVidia's guys act as if their chips are the best you can find.Still,the super-duper-wow all powerful almighty ULP GeForce GPU in the Tegra 3 is a direct competitor to the Galaxy S 2's GPU,not even the Adreno 225!And they get the best games.How ****ed-up is that?I just hope gaming companies realize that NVidia is full of ****.Sony did at least...
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Yeah,nvidia are just confused. Galaxy note owns everything with a tegra 3 IMHO, has more screen and....arrgh,no games. Samsung try with the game hub,but it's not oomph.
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vader540is said:
awesome stuff man the games are getting way better.
you said you overclock your S2 right?
you also said your are waiting for the S3, but doesn't the S3 have the same GPU as the S2? i hear its an overclocked Mali-400 @ 400mhz
the S2 is also a Mali-400 at 286 mhz i think... so what did u overclock your S2's GPU? i really wished Sammy used the Mali-T604 GPU but im still on the fence on getting the S3...yes it does have 2GB of RAM but i still haven't found a Android that can match the GPU power of my iphone4S PowerVRSGX543MP2 that is one badass GPU i love Android and what it stands for... but i have yet to find a device worthy enough to replace my iphone4s , i mainly use it for gaming, i do use a android phone for daily use cause android OS works for me better than IOS but not with gaming... maybe ill wait for the adreno 320 or Mali-T604 or Mali-T628....
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Well,I wished for a better GPU too,but what can we do?
The S3's Mali-MP400 runs at 440MHz,while the S2's GPU runs at 267MHz.Still,the S3 has a quite faster bus,so one could say that an overclocked Mali-MP400 at 400MHz in the S2 is underutilized compared to the S3.
Anyway,the only mobile GPU that can beat the S3's GPU is the iPad 3's GPU.The S3 is miles ahead of the iPhone 4S in GPU power(And everything else in that aspect).However,iOS does have better games-<3 Infinity Blade...
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Yeah,nvidia are just confused. Galaxy note owns everything with a tegra 3 IMHO, has more screen and....arrgh,no games. Samsung try with the game hub,but it's not oomph.
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NVidia are just idiots.They think they'll make much profit from monopolizing Android gaming.However,all that they're managing to do is to make gamers go to iOS.For the time being,all my hopes rest with EA and Gameloft...The others either make crappy games or make them run better(Or only) on Tegra devices.I also hated Madfinger Games.Did you guys see Dead Trigger's trailer?It implies that Tegra 3 is different to Android.Idiots...
I hate that, playing a game especially madfinger ones and the first thing you see is NVIDIA logo. Then you proceed to excellent gameplay only to be hit by some heavy lag(or entire force close) ahead. Really? I want an android game period. Why should I check the innards of my phone everytime a new game is out?
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Well,I wished for a better GPU too,but what can we do?
The S3's Mali-MP400 runs at 440MHz,while the S2's GPU runs at 267MHz.Still,the S3 has a quite faster bus,so one could say that an overclocked Mali-MP400 at 400MHz in the S2 is underutilized compared to the S3.
Anyway,the only mobile GPU that can beat the S3's GPU is the iPad 3's GPU.The S3 is miles ahead of the iPhone 4S in GPU power(And everything else in that aspect).However,iOS does have better games-<3 Infinity Blade...
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yeah your right, the INTL S3 does have a better GPU then my iphone4s , problem is the USA S3 has a adreno 225 GPU.... so ill hold off on getting the S3 untill a phone comes with a adreno 320 or malit604....

nova 3 in tegra 3 vs chinese tablet, someone wtf?!?!

I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
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I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
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Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
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I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
deadlocked007 said:
Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
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My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).

Playing games on the sgp 5.0 (QUESTION)?

Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
KOala888 said:
same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
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How do you ovetclock to 1.6?
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spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
The Player 4 and 5 both use an SGX540 running at 200MHz. I have both NOVA 3 and MC3 on my Player, and it seems to me that Gameloft has definitely not optimized their Android games as well as they could (example: the 4th generation iPod Touch has a weaker SGX530 GPU and less RAM, yet MC3 runs better).
That said, I have seen people overclock the SGX540 in our Exynos 3110 to anywhere from 210-250MHz. If someone can implement this to a Player kernel, we should be able to do the same, and probably reduce some lag.
As far as Android version- from what I understand (and this may not be correct), 4.0 uses more RAM, so some games might work better on 2.3. I have also seen many reports that Gameloft's games do not work well on 4.0 (more lag and/or crashing), but they may have been updated to fix these issues.
I'm running Android 4.0. I've got an overclock to 1.2GHz. I have set the maximum number of background tasks to only allow 2. This has pretty much completely fixed any lag i've had whatsoever. Even on 2.3! I have MC3 and Nova 3 and they both run fine with the odd jitter every 10 mins but you can expect that with any device. I also bought Gangster Rio but I haven't tried that on Remics UX yet. It ran terrible last time Si used it on ICS Crumble but I didn't have the Background process limit set then so i'll get it and i'll see how it gose. But if you've got ICS Seriously, you will be amazed at what difference it makes. I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
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I think this is part of the problem; our forum doesn't have a dedicated Q/A section like most do. For all you people uncertain; ALL QUESTIONS GO IN GENERAL. Never ever post a question in development.
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before the world explodes, I have a quick q, could we make a q& a section? Or ask for it, for the very least? or rename the general section?
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I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
I am making custom kernel atm, show me an example of overclocked gpu that we have. Afaik the were tryind to do so with i9000 without success
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
gskillivenom said:
A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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Its not one day..its one HOUR job..the game has allready options because every game engine has video option..but with a gamelooft you have to extract option file from ogg file then change on off what you thing ..save and then recreate ogg file again..And only game that gice options is rock star ..they are only developers with brains in android world for now..and off course there is no need to recreate textures..its one command in opengl.
Karim.younus said:
I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
TheTehk17 said:
I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
Karim.younus said:
Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
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Install Chainfire3d from the Market. Open it, install the driver, reboot, and it should be good to go.
However, a few warnings. Campaign will not work, at all. The only way for the game to load and be somewhat playable is to do a local WiFi multiplayer match with just yourself. I also recommend letting it sit for a minute or so after the map (pick a relatively small one) has loaded.
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
Karim.younus said:
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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Well, with the full graphics, the game lags too much when doing anything (except for walking around) for the campaign to be playable.

[Q] Gameloft and other Games with HOX+

I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
epictylerone said:
I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
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I played the NFL game, and it ran fine on my HOX+
I would recommend the HOX+ over the SGS3, especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom.
epictylerone said:
I was wondering which phone to buy and I am currently debating between this and the SGS3. I have AT&T, but I was wondering (I am leaning very heavily on the HOX+) do Gameloft Games work with this device and are they fluid (ie at least 30 FPS)? I will primarily game on this device and I spent many hours on NFL Pro 13 before my ipod got stolen, and I need to play that game.
Anyway, long-story short, I need to know how well GL games work with the HOX+, specifically NFL Pro 13, and other games such as Angry Birds, Modern Combat, etc.
Please and Thank you
P.S. I read the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1969840 and I need to know if this issue got fixed.
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Is there an app that shows FPS? I will kindly test games out for you if there is something to measure FPS. From what I can tell though is that there is little to no lag.
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I am a proud owner of the HTC One X+ but i must say that the galaxy siii is better for gaming in general especially gameloft games. The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores. With gaming boost most games will run very smoothly without full effects however if you wish to mod the games to gain gsiii grade graphical effects most of the games will run around 25-60fps with gaming boost of course. The One X+ is better than the siii for emulators, running fpse with opengl at full speed without frameskip. The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems. Overall i believe that the One X+ is a better device than the gsiii due to the great matte finish and screen also THD games are a pleasure to play.
Hi, I am a n00b, this will be my first android/smartphone and I need some clarification.
"The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores."
What is gaming boost? Is it an app that I can find on the Play Store?
" The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems."
Could you define 'tweaking', I jailbroke my iPod touch, so is it similair to jailbreaking an ios device?
" especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom."
What is a custom rom?
Also, if someone knows how to add actual quotes it would be much appreciated.
ryanjsoo said:
I am a proud owner of the HTC One X+ but i must say that the galaxy siii is better for gaming in general especially gameloft games. The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores. With gaming boost most games will run very smoothly without full effects however if you wish to mod the games to gain gsiii grade graphical effects most of the games will run around 25-60fps with gaming boost of course. The One X+ is better than the siii for emulators, running fpse with opengl at full speed without frameskip. The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems. Overall i believe that the One X+ is a better device than the gsiii due to the great matte finish and screen also THD games are a pleasure to play.
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dinkelstefan said:
I played the NFL game, and it ran fine on my HOX+
I would recommend the HOX+ over the SGS3, especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom.
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Could you post a youtube video please. Pretty please with a strawberry on top
A custom ROM is a modification tha you can do to your phone's software. The HTC one x plus comes with jelly bean 4.1 and htc sense as its default software. You can change how your phone works when you install or flash a custom ROM. ROMs vary from device to device so you have to pick the right one for your phone. ROMs can change settings, user interface, remove bloat ware, and much more.
epictylerone said:
Hi, I am a n00b, this will be my first android/smartphone and I need some clarification.
"The One X+ recquires gaming boost for gameloft games as the cpu is coupled to the gpu and gameloft games don`t utilize all four cores."
What is gaming boost? Is it an app that I can find on the Play Store?
" The unfortunate truth is that the One X+ needs alot of tweaking to gain the true potential of the hardware not to mention heat and battery problems."
Could you define 'tweaking', I jailbroke my iPod touch, so is it similair to jailbreaking an ios device?
" especially if you are going to Flash a custom rom."
What is a custom rom?
Also, if someone knows how to add actual quotes it would be much appreciated.
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The gpu is linked to the cpu to save battery, for example if a thd game like shadowgun is played all four cpu cores will be used and the gpu will scale up to 512mhz, however if you run a gameloft game only one or two cores are used and the gpu throttles down to 50% making the game stutter. Gaming boost optimizes the cpu governor and unlinks the gpu from the cpu. By tweaks i mean scripts, roms and kernels, all that recquire rooting. Rooting is actually much simpler than jailbreaking an ios device, just download the noobproof tool box in the development section. As far a battery life and heat, better than the original One X but a tad worse than a gsiii. This is mainly due to the bright display and HTC`s poor software but is easily fixed with the insertcoin rom which has the option to reduce autobrightness and drastically increase batterylife.
gaming boost:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783260
Dfballa said:
A custom ROM is a modification tha you can do to your phone's software. The HTC one x plus comes with jelly bean 4.1 and htc sense as its default software. You can change how your phone works when you install or flash a custom ROM. ROMs vary from device to device so you have to pick the right one for your phone. ROMs can change settings, user interface, remove bloat ware, and much more.
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So, which ROM do you recommend? Or, is it possible to root and still have sense 4+? I really like the interface. Is there also a "How to" root page somewhere? and like jailbreaking, does rooting void the warranty?
So only thd games run smooth and others wont? Im going to buy a new phone soon and i also wanna play some games on it.
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I make phonecalls on my phone, and game on my GTX 690
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Sure, my phone dont replaces my PC or console, anyway i play sometimes games on it and my one V is to small and to weak
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So, what I am getting at is if I want to be able to play gameloft games (Really, only NFL Pro) and other games (ie Angry Birds, Solipskier, etc) I need to root my device. What about SGS3? Can I just "pick up and play", or do I have to root as well. I have heard that rooting voids the warranty, and I kinda need the warranty just in case something happens.
However, would it be possible to show a video on what gaming is like with and without the boost. I would really appreciate it.
Lastly, which phone, HTC One X+ or Samsung Galaxy SIII is more "future-proof"?
Again, sorry for my many questions, but I am a n00b, and I need to know if I am making the right decision.
I think the sgs3 dont need to be rooted, it runs everything itselfs
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herthi said:
So only thd games run smooth and others wont? Im going to buy a new phone soon and i also wanna play some games on it.
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No, only gameloft games and some ea games will lag and that is only on stock, if you use gaming boost they will run almost as well as on an siii or iphone, games from other devs should all run well and emulators run better than on any other phone except maybe the new s4 pro phones however they have reduced performance due to heat throttling.
ryanjsoo said:
No, only gameloft games and some ea games will lag and that is only on stock, if you use gaming boost they will run almost as well as on an siii or iphone, games from other devs should all run well and emulators run better than on any other phone except maybe the new s4 pro phones however they have reduced performance due to heat throttling.
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Okay, so I should try out the gameloft games first, and if they are laggy then root or upgrade to SGS3. My follow up question is that I heard that some GL games do not support HOX/HOX+, and I was wondering which games are not compatible, or did they fix that issue?

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