Curious what you guys feel the best VOIP method/app is for free calls to other phones is. I don't want to include solutions that require both parties to have the same app installed, so only VOIP that allows you to call phone numbers.
All I personally know about is GrooveIP and Talkatone.
I'd like whatever gives the best overall call quality over 3G, and when on WiFi, hopefully sounding like a perfect call.
I appreciate any input. Thanks all!
Any input at all, guys? VOIP can be very handy at times, even with unlimited talk. I have a friend in the NY area who cannot get signal due to towers being down, but his wifi a home works fine. He used Talkatone with some success, but I'm wondering what out there is better.
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Any input at all, guys? VOIP can be very handy at times, even with unlimited talk. I have a friend in the NY area who cannot get signal due to towers being down, but his wifi a home works fine. He used Talkatone with some success, but I'm wondering what out there is better.
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I use Google Voice (GV) for most of my VOIP communcations, and even have my home phone linked to GV via an Obihai OBI100 adapter, which costs about $40 one time on Amazon. So far, calls to the US and Canada have been free, but that gets updated by Google on annual basis. I don't think anyone knows for sure yet that those calls will continue to be free in 2013, but here's an Obihai forum thread discussing that and the concensus seems to be that they will. I can't understand why people pay $25-$40 per month for a VOIP service like Vonage when they can get the same thing for a $40 one time cost, but I guess ignorance is bliss.
On my phone I use Groove IP (paid) when I want to make phone calls over Wi-Fi, mostly with my backup phone which is not currently activated, and it works very well as a front-end to GV. I use Skype too, but unless it's a Skype-to-Skype call I've found the GV connections to be higher audio quality.
Here's a pretty good article on VOIP alternatives for Android devices.
ramjet73
Yes. Keep all my old android phones around as wifi only house phones with 2 apps. Google Voice and Groove IP
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A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
The response to this question is overwhelming.
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The response to this question is overwhelming.
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That is T-Mobile's UMA.
http://www.umatechnology.org/overview/
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A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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i havent tried lately, but the last i heard, VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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Yeah, I felt semi-idiotic while holding a phone backwords to my head while I was overseas, but it got the job done..
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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haha!
were you using MS VoIP with Schap's setupvoip.cab or did you install skype or something?
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I was using Skype lowcpu cab.. they could hear me clear as day, but I ended up with a choppy reception of them.
One more weird thing was I couldn't get GPS to lock while I was over there.. It'd pull up the sats, but I'd never get a triangulation.
when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set? sorry i leave to japan this weekend and i am curious to know if anyone has had a good experience with this.
thanks
Although this is Not mogul specific it is a similar thing that you plug into your router and use your internet connection to create a viop cell based mini cell tower works with all sprint cdma phones. So if you will have broadband out @ your farm you can get this. As long as you are in range of your airave box you will not get charged usage minutes, however you are not allowed to use data off of the airave just voice i don't know if that means you won't get text messages or not as it does not say in the brochure or video, it just states that you cant download or use the web on your phone when in airave range. The service can be added to any sprint phone for $15 a month and you get unlimited min while talking off of the airave signal. Any sprint phone can use it up 2 3 phones @ a time but if you don't have the airave on your plan you will get charged cell min based on your plan. If you have a windows mobile phone with wireless the data part of this should not be an issue as we can browse the web off of our wifi on the mogul.
check the site out if you have sprint its similar to T-Mobiles approach but this service will work with any sprint cdma phone as it basically is a mini cell tower that uses your internet to connect to the sprint network to make calls over your cdma bands. T-Mobiles service requires a phone that is compatible.
http://www.sprintenterprise.com/airave/
After reading up on some of the FAQ's I noticed you can use data as normal but it is charged according to your plan and is offered @ the same performance level of current sprint internet no mention of EVDO speeds
Can I use all my normal phone functions like voicemail and text messaging with AIRAVE?
Yes. All the voice functions you enjoy with your Sprint CDMA handset can be used while you are within the AIRAVE coverage area. And while data applications are accessible, they are provided at the same performance level as is currently available through Sprint Vision. In addition, data usage is not part of the unlimited plan.
What is the range of the Sprint AIRAVE?
The coverage radius is up to 5,000 square feet.
Does a wireless call I make within AIRAVE coverage continue once I leave the coverage area?
Yes. Calls originating inside the AIRAVE coverage area transfer to the Sprint Nationwide Network once you leave the AIRAVE coverage area.
Note: you will be billed at your regular wireless plan rate for the portion of the call that has been transferred to the Sprint Nationwide Network.
Does a wireless call that starts outside of my home transfer to the Sprint AIRAVE coverage area when I arrive home?
Calls made outside the AIRAVE coverage area are not transferred to the AIRAVE device even though you may be within the coverage area. If you wish to take advantage of the unlimited calling feature of AIRAVE, you must end the call that was placed outside of the coverage area and initiate a new call on the AIRAVE device.
Can I restrict who has access to my Sprint AIRAVE?
Yes, you can limit who has access to your AIRAVE device by creating a list of approved Sprint phone numbers (up to 50 phone numbers). You can create your list by calling Customer Care at (888) 211-4727.
Can other Sprint customers use my Sprint AIRAVE?
All Sprint customers with a Sprint CDMA handset can use the AIRAVE device. However, the customer must have the unlimited calling plan on their account in order to take advantage of the unlimited calling plan.
some of the more important questions that the FAQ answers
Thanks, I will check into this.
I installed Skype from the website, but I get no sound when a call connects. Can anyone help? Also where did you get the Skype lowcpu cab?
Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/122979389/Low_CPU_2.0.0.51.zip.html
Sorry about the rapidshare. I tried to upload it here and it kept failing.
Thanks I got it to work. Appreciate your help.
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A friend of mine has a wifi enabled samsung phone with T-Mobile so when he goes to jobs or his house where he doesn't have any T-Mobile range he can enable the wifi and once connected all calls in or out are handled by VoIP and the mobile service is disabled. This way his same T-Mobile Number is used. Is there a way I can setup my phone to work this same way? I am moving to a farm out in the country where there is no cell coverage so I want to setup my phone to go wifi around the farm.
Thanks,
mr.ellsworth
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interesting question, and i would like to mention that what you want is basically, all the same cell phone shebang, but over WiFi, am i correct?
If this is so, id probably imagine its a Carrier given feature. I would like to divulge on this more, as i would love this as well.
Yes, its a carrier-specific feature. T-mobile basically has a VOIP service back end into their system as well as the GSM front end.
That way, your phone can switch between using GSM towers or the internet, and either way reach T-mobile.
Since Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, etc... do NOT have such a back end in place, you can't call with your normal phone line over IP.
what you CAN do, however, is set up an additional line with some voip carrier such as broadvoice, freedigits, vonage, skype, etc... and then run that second line from your handset over IP.
I used to do this in my office where I had no cell reception- I'd have my calls forwarded to a freedigits line, which has free incoming calls over IP. The caller would be transfered to my other number without knowing. The problem is, if I called them back, it would be from some number that they wouldn't recognize as my own.
I wrote about it over a year ago here:
http://mobile-enthusiast.blogspot.com/2007/04/how-to-never-miss-call-with-your.html
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VoIP on the titan only worked via speakerphone.
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Yes. that's true....
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when using VoIP program on the titan, can you use the headset or a bluetooth head set?
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Yes, you can...
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Skype Low CPU cab.. it's the only one I've got to work decently with the Titan.
http://rapidshare.com/files/1229793...doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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When I installed this cab on Sprint Mogul DCD 3.2.5 3.42.50 radio, I couldn't get the program to load up. I would press the Skype program icon and see the rainbow spinner telling me the phone is thinking, then nothing. Even after multiple reinstalls and soft resets, it still doesn't work.
Am I missing a step somewhere?
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No. I had this working somewhere around dcd 3.2.1, but since I upgraded to 3.2.2 and now 3.2.5 it isn't working anymore. It worked well with older dcd versions though, but don't quote me on the 3.2.1. It might have been before that but I'm pretty sure it was 3.2.1 if you really want to give it a shot. I would soft reset after Skype install before launching it.
I am thinking really hard of coming to verizon from tmobile for the thunderbolt or the droid bionic. The thing is, they are expensive as hell to me, and i have no desire to spend 110-125 on a phone bill every month.
SO i figured out some ways to get a cheaper bill:
1) get the cheapest minute plan with no text (39.99) plus the data plan (29.99)
2)Use goog voice for text messages
3)Use skype for unlimited voice calls(9.99)
The only thing is i dont know how the quality of skypes voice calls are when going over 3g. As long as i can make decent calls over 3g and receive them with no problems, then it sounds like a decent plan to save money.
What do you all think?
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I am thinking really hard of coming to verizon from tmobile for the thunderbolt or the droid bionic. The thing is, they are expensive as hell to me, and i have no desire to spend 110-125 on a phone bill every month.
SO i figured out some ways to get a cheaper bill:
1) get the cheapest minute plan with no text (39.99) plus the data plan (29.99)
2)Use goog voice for text messages
3)Use skype for unlimited voice calls(9.99)
The only thing is i dont know how the quality of skypes voice calls are when going over 3g. As long as i can make decent calls over 3g and receive them with no problems, then it sounds like a decent plan to save money.
What do you all think?
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umm you will need to find a hacked .apk of skype to make calls over 3G. honestly its not worth the trouble.
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umm you will need to find a hacked .apk of skype to make calls over 3G. honestly its not worth the trouble.
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+1 The call quality on 3G leaves a lot to be desired...unless it's 4am and you live 1/2 mile from a tower with an unobstructed view...
Umm... I use GV for some of my voice calls, and I have confirmed that it work via numbers not bing shown on my cell bill. Download GV and GV call back. I don't know how it works, but it does.
I am wanting to use my Evo View 4g as my primary device (phone calls, text, everything etc) and sell my smart phone. I see that line 2 has a $10/month charge and my buddy uses it with his ipad2 and it works pretty well. I saw grooveip as another option and just wanted some thoughts and/or ideas on one or both. I would also like to use a BT headset with this setup if possible and carry the view 4g in my pocket. Anybody who can give me some insight on which service they would recommend and why, I would very much appreciate it!
Thank you!
Ben
I''m using GrooveIP with my Flyer. It's free over goggle voice and seems to work quite well most of the time. Has a lot of options to play with to improve voice quality, depending on your Mic setup (speaker, headset, etc.) I use it as speaker phone with the built-in mic. Works pretty good.
Why is it with Ip Groove the bluetooth wont work but there is an option for using bluetooth?
I use grooveip and I love it but where I work my 3g signal sucks (thanks Sprint) so I think I'm going to have to get a regular phone and I so hate that I can't use bluetooth.
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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I got a Photon 4g, and I wanna know if there's anyway I can have simultaneous voice/data on 3G, I know its possible over "4G" (Wimax), and I really don't wanna buy a new phone outright. Will SVDO work on the Photon anywhere?
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To my knowledge this is not possible. Would be hella useful though.
only way is if "voice" if via VOIP such as google voice, skype or SIP provider.
I do it all day! WiFi and I talk and di email and FB! L
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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Smartphones have so many features nowadays that it is honestly difficult for any given person to make use of every one of them. Hence, there are some features that are diamonds to some and useless to others. Just because you in particular don't have a use for said feature, it can be be extremely useful to someone else. For instance, my girlfriend now lives a good 150 miles away. So a lot of our casual conversations are done for long periods of time over our phones. Should I be focusing on our conversation? Sure. Do I also wanna check xda, read an article with her to keep the conversation rolling, maybe watch a funny YouTube clip or something? Definitely. My point is, its not a feature that is visibly useless for everyone. You just don't have a use for it.
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i still don't get it, how in the world is this actually useful? should you focus be to the other person you're talking to?
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you might have an email, or be in your car using it as the GPS with the phone on speaker or bluetooth, or wanna check an email you're talking to someone about, etc. A lotta times, when I've been on the internet with the Photon, I've missed calls, and that includes using my Strava cycling app, which simply maps where I'm going.
Calls/texts will interrupt downloads which is annoying when trying to download large files over 3g
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As others have mentioned, if you have VoIP service independently of Sprint, there's nothing to stop you from using it on your phone. You can do a complete end-run around Sprint and cobble your own adhoc SVDO-ish work-around today. Your battery life will totally suck, and you'll be paying more money for VoIP from some thirdparty provider, but you can do it. Just run the client, forward your calls to your VoIP number, and you're in business.
So, why can't SPRINT do it? Simple. The service we all call "Call Forwarding" is heinously inefficient. It was invented ~25 years ago, and only works for its intended purpose (adhoc forwarding of calls to arbitrary numbers) because there are just a few people using it at any given point in time. If EVERYBODY (or even a large plurality of Android owners) tried doing it at once, Sprint would hit a hard limit beyond which no more users serviced by a given switch could forward calls until somebody else discontinued forwarding to free up a circuit (remember, ESS voice calls are circuit-switched, regardless of any packet-switched magic that might occur at the backhaul and trunk level. You'd be amazed how much metaphorical WD-40 and duct tape still gets used behind the scenes at Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile to glue 21st-century wireless and 19th-century wired phone circuits together & make wireless calls look like landline calls to the PSTN).
To implement large-scale SVDO that's cost-effective, scalable, and sustainable, Sprint has to make much bigger changes that involve their switches (enabling them to terminate calls directly to VoIP instead of relying on adhoc ESS-type call forwarding) and signaling (sending notifications via the same mechanism used now to notify the phone of incoming calls, deliver text messages, and carry Google & Apple's push notifications). That way, instead of forcing your phone to establish and maintain an EVDO or LTE connection 24/7 and use it to poll for incoming calls, it can still use the more power-efficient 1x method, and simply notify the onboard VoIP app that there's an incoming call when it happens.
At the end of the day, it's one of those cases where it's easy for nimble, tech-savvy, and highly-motivated individuals willing to spend a few days learning and experimenting to take matters into their own hands and hack something into working for themselves, but it's a much bigger job to make it viable for the unwashed masses who want it to "just work" transparently without disclaimers, gotchas, and devastated battery life. It's the same reason why iPhones don't have wimax on Sprint. Apple point blank refused to even consider implementing something where users have to toggle it manually and be aware of their connectivity options at all times to really make it work right. Think I'm kidding? Find a nontechnical Sprint customer with wimax-capable phone, and check out their 4G settings. 95 times out of 100, they'll have 4G disabled, even in cities where there's been 4G service for more than a year. They went to the Sprint store, complained about not being able to "surf the web" (WE know their phone was probably thrashing back and forth between 3G and 4G & kept spending 5-20 seconds at a time in "no network connection" limbo), the employee toggled 4G off, handed the phone back to them, and they never had any clue what the employee actually DID. They were just happy that their phone quit endlessly saying they had no internet connection. ;-)
I'm considering getting an HTC One and getting the $30/mo 100 mins, 5Gb plan. I hope to use a VOIP app for most of my calling to make the 100 mins workable. Can anyone recommend a favorite VIP app, preferably one that works with Google Voice (since I've had a GV number for several years now)?
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Try Groove IP app. It uses Google Voice number and transmit call via either wifi or T-Mobile data service
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Try Groove IP app. It uses Google Voice number and transmit call via either wife or T-Mobile data service
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Yep, I agree with this and personally use both GrooVe IP and Talkatone for my Google Voice number.
Used GrooveIP fr the first time today. Sprint's 3g network does not seem able to handle it (surprise). Unless there is some setting I can tweak. Even on my home WiFi (23Mbps down, 3 up), a friend complained the voice quality wasn't great. I could hear him fine though. Of course, I can't judge after only two calls.
Hope to try it on Sprint's 4G LTE later.
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Vonage what? Don't you have to subscribe to their service?
More bad luck with Groove today. First, the person I called contnued complain about my voice breaking up. I tried adjusting the buffering, and he reported it got slightly better. But later I called two more people and both could not hear me, as if my mike was muted. I could hear them loud and clear. In fact, quality n my end was better than a typical cell call.
I have to repeat, Sprints network is really slow. But using Groove on my home WiFi yesterday was no better.
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Internet calling on this plan has its highs and lows. Accepting and trying to work around the lows are an unavoidable part of having it, alas.
There is vast talk about these issues in the Nexus 4 forum.
The T-Mobile $30 Prepaid Plan Users Thread has lots of talk about the plan the OP references, plenty of which relates to ways to do wifi calling.
The Free VoIP (internet call) Solutions for Smartphones thread opens with acegolfer's comprehensive and invaluable list of ways to do wifi calling along with some pros and cons for each.
There are plenty of other threads that deal with some of the specifics.
I used this plan for a few months until recently when I switched to a three phone family plan, which made more sense for the way we're using phones as a family. But I really enjoyed the 100 minute talk, 5GB data plan and was sort of sad to let it go. It's a terrific deal, at least by US terms, if you use a lot of mobile data and can live with its phone calling limitations. I have to say, though, that now that I'm on a more conventional plan, I'm happy to have more reliable calling and easier bluetooth usage in the car.
Maybe T-Mobile's wifi calling on the One would be useful with this plan. I don't know, because when we bought the One, we switched out of the $30 plan.
With the $30 plan, I used Spare Phone, which is in the same sort of category as GrooveIP and Talkatone. I had good luck with it, though you may need to do a little tweaking of settings, particularly related to microphone gain. That's the case with any of the VOIP software. Spare Phone's dev is responsive and helpful.
I used Vonage some, but found it to be hopelessly unreliable with lots of dropped calls and problems for whoever was at the other end of the conversation. I had to abandon it out of consideration for other people alone. It doesn't require a paid suscription. Just install the app, register and you're good to go for Vonage to Vonage along with Vonage to phone calling. Skype was much better, with better call quality than the Spare Phone/GrooveIP type stuff. Occasionally, I'd have problems there, too, but not that often. For longer calls, I tended to use that. Otherwise, I mostly I used Spare Phone, occasionally, I'd try GrooveIP.
If you really want to get geeky, the threads above will give you some other alternatives with better potential, but you'll have to invest some time with them, something you may or may not get enjoyment out of.
The biggest negative about all this is T-Mobile's shaky mobile data coverage. There are so many places with poor speeds or no coverage at all that you have to adjust to being in places where you're not going to be able to talk at times. And talking while in a moving vehicle often leads to dropped calls.
Have fun with the plan.
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Internet calling on this plan has its highs and lows. Accepting and trying to work around the lows are an unavoidable part of having it, alas.
Maybe T-Mobile's wifi calling on the One would be useful with this plan.
The biggest negative about all this is T-Mobile's shaky mobile data coverage. There are so many places with poor speeds or no coverage at all that you have to adjust to being in places where you're not going to be able to talk at times. And talking while in a moving vehicle often leads to dropped calls.
Have fun with the plan.
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Thanks. I will check out those threads.
My understanding of Tmo's WiFi calling is that it uses your cell minutes, even though you're calling over the Internet (maybe because it still goes out over their network?).
I'll have to roll the dice with Tmo's data coverage, Sprint's is horrible. Actually, it became worse after they started rolling out their LTE. 3G speeds went down, when you can actually get them at all. 4G is very spotty right now. I'm sure their 4 G will improve, but I've had my EVO LTE a good (bad) year now and I'm tired of paying for promises. By the time they have good coverage, I'll be looking for another phone, and my EVO LTE will rarely have had the chance to actually use LTE! I can't see how Tmo's coverage can be any worse, but at least I'll be throwing away less money.
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Thanks. I will check out those threads.
My understanding of Tmo's WiFi calling is that it uses your cell minutes, even though you're calling over the Internet (maybe because it still goes out over their network?).
I'll have to roll the dice with Tmo's data coverage, Sprint's is horrible. Actually, it became worse after they started rolling out their LTE. 3G speeds went down, when you can actually get them at all. 4G is very spotty right now. I'm sure their 4 G will improve, but I've had my EVO LTE a good (bad) year now and I'm tired of paying for promises. By the time they have good coverage, I'll be looking for another phone, and my EVO LTE will rarely have had the chance to actually use LTE! I can't see how Tmo's coverage can be any worse, but at least I'll be throwing away less money.
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I'm in a populated area where I'd think coverage would be pretty good. And mostly it is. But there are improbable places where it's really weak or non-existent, mostly in residential areas just a few blocks from a busy street.
You sure you're not on Sprint?
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Vonage what? Don't you have to subscribe to their service?
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Free Vonage app. No subscription needed. Just install, set your caller ID, confirm it via text or receiving a call with a pin and you are good. It works great on wifi, OK on TMo 4g and I'm sure it totally sucks as all data does on Sprint non-LTE.
You can't receive calls on it though. I just call people right back and my number shows on their caller ID. Its a lot better than Groove or Talkatone.
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the WiFi calling feature is amazing actually. i already tried calling in asia, europe and guam and its crystal clear.
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the WiFi calling feature is amazing actually. i already tried calling in asia, europe and guam and its crystal clear.
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Are you talking about Tmo's WiFi calling app or Vonage?
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Are you talking about Tmo's WiFi calling app or Vonage?
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Well, that's nice to have that option when you can get a signal. But it still uses your cell minutes.
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Well, that's nice to have that option when you can get a signal. But it still uses your cell minutes.
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im good with the cell minutes because i have unlimited plan, the new plan they introduced. no extra charge
this might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2281639