This came across my thoughts when I was doing research on dedicated RAM for system and GPU. I want to play Amazing Spiderman on my Xperia Mini but it doesn't seem to start and I believe its because of my CPU clock and my RAM. I have over 200MB of free RAM and I was wondering if there is any way I can dedicate some more to the GPU, with the use of a kernel. If there are any other method to doing so please tell me.:good::laugh:
I don't really think it's possible, but hey I'm not so into the advanced kernel developing stuff
Rage kernel but i think there is no increase in performance.
Ajmini said:
This came across my thoughts when I was doing research on dedicated RAM for system and GPU. I want to play Amazing Spiderman on my Xperia Mini but it doesn't seem to start and I believe its because of my CPU clock and my RAM. I have over 200MB of free RAM and I was wondering if there is any way I can dedicate some more to the GPU, with the use of a kernel. If there are any other method to doing so please tell me.:good::laugh:
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Im running the game without lags on ics and panic kernel
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You can't put more RAM to GPU. It is not possible. Not even on regular PCs.
as far as i know regular pc can add more ram by running hyper memory but only if the vga card support it
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You can't put more RAM to GPU. It is not possible. Not even on regular PCs.
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Its possible to do on pc/laptop that use a gpu that is integrated on the chipset. For example, Intel hd series that share the amount of gpu memory with system ram...btw the base amount of gMemory for Intel hd series is 256mb and can go up to 1.8gb+ if I'm not mistaken.Also depends on the amount of system ram.
As for smartphone it should be able to do the same because the gpu is integrated on the chipset too...idk much about android so cant really tell
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Is there any way to overclock ram?
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why you want that, better speed? or more memory? i don't think that is "possible"
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why you want that, better speed? or more memory? i don't think that is "possible"
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My phone is having 478mb ram to i just wanna increase it to 512mb.
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No, RAM size is fixed in the RAM chip. There's nothing like a Linux swap partition/Windows ReadyBoost to help with this.
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No, RAM size is fixed in the RAM chip. There's nothing like a Linux swap partition/Windows ReadyBoost to help with this.
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So its not possible.
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So its not possible.
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No not possible, but if you install cyanogen mod you can make it compress the ram, that you basically have more free ram than before. That is what i do.
Update My rom
Hello everybody
I have galaxy s4 clone I would like to update my rom :
Model Number : GT-I9500
Android 4.2.2
Baseband Version : I9500XXUAMDE
Kernel version 3.4.5-I9500ZSKJ6-CL679970 Sat Aug 10 19:17:34 CST 2013
Build number :GINGERBREAD.ZSKJ6
Custom build version galaxy.20130810.F.V015
internal storage : 344 Mb
Ram : 311 Mb
Please Help Me
Use swap file. Just google it. Even though it's slow it's worth a try.
Yeah @aymenmeer ,you have been helped by me
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Prism barebone v15
VoLTaqe Kernel.
You won't be able to add more RAM but you can add swap to your SD card storage to be treated like RAM but it will wear out that SD Card in a certain amount of time. It's also slower than regular RAM but Class 10 SD Cards are still a nice way to add swap to be used like RAM if you need it.
I used ROHESOFT Ram Expander for that reason (got the free version since I wouldn't pay an absurd price) but I was able to use an extra 1GB SWAP treated as RAM or 500MB on my S3 mini. I did have to change swap parameters to speed it up though and best experience. It was actually fairly smooth for the most part but not always recommended.
Greenify I used to reduce background processes from using RAM as well.
Other option includes zRAM or zSwap from kernel adiutor and custom ROMs for less RAM usage. Another way is this Xposed Module called Low Ram Device which you can force your device to act as a low RAM device , which makes applications use less RAM and significantly free up RAM space.
However for a device with less than a GB of Ram or 1GB, I'd say use Low Ram device Xposed Module , reduce background processes and importantly, add swap to your class10 (class6 or above is fine too sometimes) SD Card to be treated as extra RAM . It may feel slower but not too slow and the difference is less noticeable with faster SD cards .
As for overclocking RAM Speed, I don't believe that's actually possible on even a custom kernel yet but I'm not so certain. I found this thread by Google search Overclock android ram speed.
overclock ram is different overMEMORY. ram have bus clock (amount data can transmitted) overclock ram mean make ram faster when transmit data, does not help improve memory shortage.
is there any option to raise SGS3 CPU to 2000mhz or something like that?
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kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
is there any need to overclock this beast lol its fast enough
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not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
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He wasn't referring to getting more RAM though was he? It read to me that he wanted to see if was possible to increase the clock speed of the RAM along with the CPU.
yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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Already there OC/UV running 1500Mhz right now. Max 1800Mhz.
Look into de developers topics for the kernel..
Ive looked there.. stiil misunderstand something-
there is any OC of 2000mhz now?
Note that the Exynos 4Core CPU is still not very well understood and may well get long-time damage when ramping up the clock speed aggressively.
Is there actually ANY need for going so high except to show off?
You'll be measuring any speed improvement in loading things up in microseconds because people say Samsung still hasn't fully optimised the phone to the OS yet, so I think it's a bit pointless stressing the phone that much.
1.8GHZ is currently the max however with kmemhelper you should be able to change the last frequency to 2.0...
Hell I'll even find out the script for you if you are mad enough to try it first
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I doubt you'll get it 2GHz stable anyway. From what I've heard most people have theirs crap out at 1.8GHz.
kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
to make it clear:
i wanna know which ram overclocking is available to do on the SGS3 as long as the device still stables.
same with GPU and all those stuff.. there is a really good lvl of OC like in S1 S2?
still waiting for help
I would go for Siyah kernel and try 1.8 GHz then under volt using voltage control or extweaks app. Most phones can go 100 mv on all steps except maybe the very highest clocks.
gpu overclock is not possible yet
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OC of the ram is connected to bus speed and this is very different to the fixed bus in the sgs1 so nothing like live oc is possible. Still 400 mhz bus speed is 4 times faster than the CHAt!
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I`am running RGUI v7 rom and siyah kernel 1.3.8a. My clockspeed is 1600 Mhz and is rockstable, snappy and battery life is great.
I don`t go any higher for daily use, it doesn`t make much difference in speed and i think it cuts down your cpu-life.
ho so no LIVE OC is available now? (like in S1 and s2)?
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
My Captivate (SGS1) can hit 1.92GHz... So I think that a CPU with a stock clock of 1.4GHz can hit 2GHz easily. We will just have to see. I am not pushing this phone though. I don't have $700 to replace it.
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
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That's not depended on the ROM but on whether the hardware allows to modify the values and if kernel developers figure out how to do it.
I dont understand why company's are concentrating on processor amount,dual ,quad? ITS RAM that is so important, put 2 gigs in a dual core phone it will fly! any comments by devs on this would really help thank you
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Thanx can you elaborate? trying to learn
2gigs on dual core would fly, but 2gigs on quad core would fly much much faster...
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RAM isn't overly important in terms of speed. CPU is extremely important. Basically RAM just holds files that will be needed in the immediate future (or have been used very recently) to reduce read times on those files when they are needed. When it comes to actually running code, that is pretty much purely down to CPU speed. 1GB RAM is plenty to store a few apps and the background OS processes. When more is needed, older apps are closed (by "older apps" I mean ones used least recently). Otherwise, recently used apps are kept in RAM for quick switching. Unless you are trying to multitask in dozens of apps simultaneously, 1GB of RAM should be plenty for a phone today.
Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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The way I have always viewed ram is this; no, more ram than needed won't make your device faster, but it sure will make it slower if you don't have enough!
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Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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Awesome answer!! Thank you
Just like i thought!!!
"""""Under the hood, the Samsung Galaxy S III from Verizon Wireless is the same as the other US models. It ships with a dual core 1.5GHz processor and 2GB of RAM, which is meant to compensate for the lack of a quad-core processor that is found in the international version of the handset.""""""
JUST LIKE I THOUGHT!!! and above quote is from a major website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol :victory::victory::victory:
More than 1gb of ram isn't needed. If you are on ics or jb, then you need a good gpu. If you are on froyo or gb, then you need a good CPU since they aren't hw accelerated.
DD-Ripper said:
Both RAM and CPU has equal aspects on any device.
Ever tried playing GTA 4 on a PC with 1GB Ram and Quadcore CPU or on 4GB RAM with a SingleCore CPU...?
Both Ram and Cpu are important in terms of increasing speed.
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Comparing PC with Android is a lil'bit out of the rails here. Even with one core and enough GPU combined with 4GB RAM should be enough to enjoy many things. More core's is good for multitasking etc. But when you think how many apps etc are optimized for those gazillion cores......
Crwolv said:
I dont understand why company's are concentrating on processor amount,dual ,quad? ITS RAM that is so important, put 2 gigs in a dual core phone it will fly! any comments by devs on this would really help thank you
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Its simple. Big RAM can hold more running apps or a single big app (more bunch of codes). In any case, there'd be high demand of processing. So, manufacturers can only add more RAM when they ensure that they have enough processing speed for better experience.
You can say, we have quad-core CPUs now, why can't we add more RAM like we do in PCs?
Well, the answer: Don't go for specs. Smartphone CPUs/GPUs aren't powerful like Desktop ones (despite same specs). There's power and heat issues, in fact.
Plus, Android and its apps are unable to use multiple cores with high efficiency (Intel advocates this; that's why it launched powerful smartphone CPU with 1 core). So, quad-core performs poorer than single/double core performance on PCs.
It limits the lifetime of a device since it cannot be upgraded and maybe manufacturers like that. RAM usually seems to be the limiting factor on phones running future versions of android. Its too bad it can't be upgraded like a desktop/laptop but thats the cost of fitting all of this hardware into a tiny phone.
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It limits the lifetime of a device since it cannot be upgraded and maybe manufacturers like that. RAM usually seems to be the limiting factor on phones running future versions of android. Its too bad it can't be upgraded like a desktop/laptop but thats the cost of fitting all of this hardware into a tiny phone.
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AGREED! MANY DIFFERENT EXPLANATIONS! glad i asked ,all these helped. more ram would help but only to an extent. example if my wifes former htc design had a gig of ram it wouldn't have lagged so much running a single core 1.2 gig processor. FACT,so htc should have done it,it ran great till it attempted to multitask!:good:
Wasn't it stated during the I/O event that JB in general used less RAM and optimized apps better than the previous OS's so phones wouldn't need as much RAM as before?
It would be nice if JB or ICS had a timeout option for apps open more than a certain amount of time and would shut down automatically therein freeing more RAM. Obviously, it could be turned off or off depending on the user. Or if you could specify certain apps to close after an allotted amount of time if unused. Ex. Play store, calculator, calendar, SMS don't always need to stay on the page you left when you switched apps
Hi people, just a simple question that hope has not been made, do you think, in a short time (few months) 2 GB of RAM will be required for our devices to work well?
The most important is smooth and stable, higher RAM is not neccesary. :laugh:
Probably as tech gets higher, more ram will be required for later games and applications.
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Cellphones today are the same as computer is... the higher hardware it would only be required to those who uses heavy features, like games and developing programs.
So, if you want a device just to basic use, you'll not need high spec cellphones.
It really depends on the usage, but there will be a lot of resource-consuming games released soon.
Some custom roms like miui also take a lot of memory! 1GB is getting short...
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higher RAM is not neccesary
You don't really NEED 2GB of RAM, but does help. Better multitasking, mostly.
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me personally i don't think that phones really need 2gb like gagdude said. I think if you have a kernel that makes the phone run faster then not necessarily 2gb is needed but helps alot.
Seeing phones like the new Nexus or the Galaxy S3 Alpha are coming out with two GB... I dont know if there will be apps or tweaks like that new one on the S3 Alpha that will not work well in our 1 GB phones soon.
i have a htc desire with cm10 4.1.2, it only has 576mb ram, but still kind of smooth, so 2gb is not necessary, but still more is better, because it will be more smooth, espicially when you playing games.
I don't think it's necessary and yeah you guys are right phones are like computers.
HD Screen
Quad Core
2GB Ram
Powerful gpus
If cpus would be x86 and with a mouse and keyboard you could get a fully working windows 7 on your phone. Even most of the computers at schools and libraries are not quad core.
I think ubuntu realized that and they are developing a fully functional ubuntu for phones with two and more cores.
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Personally, I feel that 2gb ram is needed. Reason being that stock s3 uses around 700 - 900mb of ram. Of course, you may still say that you can install custom rom and decrease its usage to maybe 500 - 600mb. But if you run a lot of apps, it will eventually use more than 1gb of ram and the remaining usage will be send to and forth the swap(slower access).
Despite having zram which improves performance for devices with low rams, but ram is still faster than zram so having more ram is indeed better.
With a device that has to swap to and forth the swap and ram, battery life will be reduced and the performance will not be that good as the instructions of the code inside the ram has to be done then only it can be swapped with the instructions inside the swap and so it reduces the performance(in theory, you may not feel it unless you run something i/o intensive)
Go read up more on ram, zram and swap and you'll get it why I'd said to get a device with more ram.
Platform fragmentation on android will surely slow down this process. Also the maximum heap space available for a Java application (opengl textures and native code are excluded from this limitation) doesn't make extra RAM so important for many apps.
But for sure I wouldn't complain if my phone had more RAM.
1GB is enough. 2GB? You will play Asphalt 7 & Modern Combat 3 at the same time?
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1GB is enough. 2GB? You will play Asphalt 7 & Modern Combat 3 at the same time?
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Why not
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Why not
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Not only your device is multitasking, but also you are multitasking.
it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
hossein7292 said:
it's mentioned in features of xperia neo that it has 512MB of ram
well
in setting>application>running services
not only the amout of ram is not 512 but it changes using different ROMs for example in codename 9.2 i had 256MB and i codename 9.3 i have 320MB of rams
so i figured that there's gotta be a way to unlock the rest of it if i am right
any ideas ?
thanks
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Dont think so bro
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Well, it is needed for gpu also. So some is dedicated to that. And a lot of other stuff that Sony thinks was necessary.
When devs give u increased ram, they know what they do,
trying to do to much of this stuff may permanently brick your phone.
So be happy with what u get....
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First of all.
use a program to report totall ram
the built-in task manager is crap
It always reports random numbers.
Just a notice:
if you install v6 built-in manager will report way less total ram on gignerbread
(oh and the rest of the ram around 200mbs are used for your gpu camera and such things..