Howdy, guys. Been sort of lurking here thinking about upgrading to the 1X+ when it becomes available. I'm presently an Inspire owner (previously owned an HD2 and before that a TyTNII) and prefer HTC's build quality, but the Galaxy IIIs is very tempting. What troubles me about the 1X+ is that it does not have any other battery options, an aspect where I felt the Inspire was flawed, and this is even worse. As we know, even the best quality batteries start to go bad after a time (which is happening to my Inspire now...), and that time is long after the warranty expires. So what worries me is that HTC has designed what stacks up to be a disposable phone.
Wondering if any of you guys can comment on HTC's new 'closed architecture' approach in general, and what options you'd suggest for me looking down the road - not just HTC but other vendors also. I'm not in a rush, but I do have the option to upgrade now, so I'd appreciate hearing your thoughts since I don't keep up on the latest-and-greatest phone tech.
Thanks in advance!
What's wrong with having the battery replaced even after the warranty period? I'm sure it won't cost a lot.
Sharpshooterrr said:
What's wrong with having the battery replaced even after the warranty period? I'm sure it won't cost a lot.
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Unless you're an HTC technician, you have no basis for this statement. How can you have any idea at all what it costs to open and replace components in a phone that we haven't even seen yet? How do you even know if the battery is replaceable at all? Please don't speculate without hard facts.
Opening a unibody is going to be hard work and tricky, battery replacement should be possible, not impossible. I would wait just to see if the bootloader becomes unlocked and development gets rolling. I would like to stick with htc because i like sense, if i was into ASOP look, htc would have been never on my list. currently the way HTC is going, their phones is getting harder and harder to develop. and we wonder why samsung is selling like hotcakes. i say wait and see
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Opening a unibody is going to be hard work and tricky.... I would wait just to see if the bootloader becomes unlocked... I would like to stick with htc because i like sense...
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My point exactly. Another term for 'hard work and tricky' is 'expensive'. I also like Sense and found that I spent more time trying to get an AOSP ROM to behave like it, that it just wasn't worth it and went back to Virtuous Infinity. I don't necessarily need a 'custom' ROM, only one that enables me to remove CIQ and I can then go about freezing the apps I don't want or need. But if it turns out that the bootloader can't be unlocked, then the G3S looks pretty good, unless there are any other suggestions out there or if anyone has "insider information" about upcoming HTC phones that return to their original open architecture.
either get the nexus 4 or just wait..personally i would wait..i currently own an hox 32gb
Unless you intend to keep your phone for an extensive amount of time, the battery should not be an issue. These batteries are tested for hundreds of thousand of charges before the performance starts to degrade. Thats like charging your phone 10 times a day for 3 years
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Unless you're an HTC technician, you have no basis for this statement. How can you have any idea at all what it costs to open and replace components in a phone that we haven't even seen yet? How do you even know if the battery is replaceable at all? Please don't speculate without hard facts.
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Here's a hard fact: Original HTC One X's battery is replaceable and it costs roughly $80 to have it professionally replaced as per HTC's official service center from my area. You can also look up Youtube videos on replacing HOX's battery.
Given that HOX and HOX+'s external design looks almost identical and both don't have exterior screws in them, one can conclude that the only way the HOX+ can be pried open is the exact same way it is done on the HOX.
You're right, I don't know for sure if the HOX+'s battery is replaceable unless I'm a HTC technician, but based on the above hard fact and the reasonably logical analysis, I think it's safe enough to speculate that the battery of the basically souped-up version of the HOX can actually be replaced.
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You're right, I don't know for sure if the HOX+'s battery is replaceable unless I'm a HTC technician, but based on the above hard fact and the reasonably logical analysis, I think it's safe enough to speculate that the battery of the basically souped-up version of the HOX can actually be replaced.
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Your 'hard facts' and 'logical analysis' + 'speculation' = sheer conjecture. I'll wait it out to see for myself. Granted, it would make sense for HTC to leverage their existing production design, but I've lived long enough to know not to make such assumptions.
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Opening a unibody is going to be hard work and tricky, battery replacement should be possible, not impossible. I would wait just to see if the bootloader becomes unlocked and development gets rolling. I would like to stick with htc because i like sense, if i was into ASOP look, htc would have been never on my list. currently the way HTC is going, their phones is getting harder and harder to develop. and we wonder why samsung is selling like hotcakes. i say wait and see
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The HOX was a doddle to open when I boosted the WiFi antenna by adding some tin (aluminium) foil to it. I didn't touch the battery but all it had on it was a head shield. I should think a spare should be very easy to replace.
I have the HOX+ and am delighted with it. Two days in a row I've had it on Power Save mode and not noticed any lag, both days have had 12+ hours of regular email + FB with roughly 33% left
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The HOX was a doddle to open when I boosted the WiFi antenna by adding some tin (aluminium) foil to it. I didn't touch the battery but all it had on it was a head shield. I should think a spare should be very easy to replace.
I have the HOX+ and am delighted with it. Two days in a row I've had it on Power Save mode and not noticed any lag, both days have had 12+ hours of regular email + FB with roughly 33% left
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What exactly does the "Power Save" mode do? Thanks
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Anyone hear yet on when this device will be out on ATT for USA? Can't find anything online, no leaks anywhere from my research. Trying to see if it will arrive here before the year is over :fingers-crossed:
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What exactly does the "Power Save" mode do? Thanks
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Power Save Mode is really settings HTC profiled to save power, just like Beats for audio.
No word from AT&T, its like they are planning for a Thanksgiving Holiday release or later. There might be AT&T internal testing to install more bloatware, and certain upgrades to make the phone less developer friendly.
Came from Inspire as well, have the ATT One X currently and it is an awesome device. Batteries are replaceable, phone is really not too difficult to open if you wanted to do it yourself. Otherwise it is around $80 to have it serviced. I was concerned with the battery limitations initially as well, but it gets almost 2x the battery life as my Inspire with the slightly larger DHD battery in it. Never really worry about my battery life now. Bigger issue is the no sd card slot
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What exactly does the "Power Save" mode do? Thanks
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Not exactly sure other than what has been said about an HTC profile but the way I see it - if HTC boast a 60% boost in power, and lets say power save halves the power usage maybe by limiting CPU speed, that's still 80% power of the original HOX. And with Buttery Smooth JB I really don't notice any lag so I leave it on the whole time.
On the very rare occasion I use a graphics heavy game, I'd disable Power Save to be safe but using games like Stickman Cliff diving and Bike Race it's fine.
This is just speculation without research, based simply on a few days use but thought I'd share...either way, Power Save makes the battery life EPIC!!
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Not exactly sure other than what has been said about an HTC profile but the way I see it - if HTC boast a 60% boost in power, and lets say power save halves the power usage maybe by limiting CPU speed, that's still 80% power of the original HOX. And with Buttery Smooth JB I really don't notice any lag so I leave it on the whole time.
On the very rare occasion I use a graphics heavy game, I'd disable Power Save to be safe but using games like Stickman Cliff diving and Bike Race it's fine.
This is just speculation without research, based simply on a few days use but thought I'd share...either way, Power Save makes the battery life EPIC!!
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as far as i know you can leave the powersave on all the time. i played some nfs most wanted and fifa and didn't notice any lags (at least if you don't have a ton of apps open. "cheaper" games won't even lag if you have a bunch of apps open in the background.
in my experience it does give more cpu power if it's really needed...what it does that you will notice is: it keeps the screen slightly dimmer then in normal-mode (if you have auto brightness acivated).
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Not exactly sure other than what has been said about an HTC profile but the way I see it - if HTC boast a 60% boost in power, and lets say power save halves the power usage maybe by limiting CPU speed, that's still 80% power of the original HOX. And with Buttery Smooth JB I really don't notice any lag so I leave it on the whole time.
On the very rare occasion I use a graphics heavy game, I'd disable Power Save to be safe but using games like Stickman Cliff diving and Bike Race it's fine.
This is just speculation without research, based simply on a few days use but thought I'd share...either way, Power Save makes the battery life EPIC!!
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Since i don't have an HOX+ yet i thought maybe in the manual or when you tap the button to enable powersave it would give you a message saying exactly what it does? If not then why even have it as an option? Why wouldn't it ALWAYS just be turned on to save power? Just curious on what restrictions it puts in place to "save power" and figured it would explain this in the manual or somewhere?
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Like many I am waffling between the Hercules and the Amaze. I really like the Amaze. It is a great looking phone and I like Sense 3.0 (looking forward to 3.5). The biggest thing holding me back from pulling the trigger on the Amaze (besides the fact that it isn't actually out yet on Telus) is the seemingly widespread reports of poor battery life.
First question: Is the poor battery life universal or is it only some people who are experiencing it while others are getting good battery life?
Second question-kind of a strange one. I mount my phone in my car with a holder which squeezes the phone from the sides to hold it. My concern is that with the usb on the side it cannot be plugged in while in the holder. Also, I am concerned that the holder will squeeze against the camera buttons and activate the camera. Does anyone have one of these types of phone mounts and does it work ok with this phone?
Thanks
Nobody has on opinon?
I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
Battery life - Use juice defender Ultimate + SetCPU. Get HTC Evo 3D or HTC Sensation 1900mAH battery
Camera - Arguably the best on android
Soft Buttons - Works just fine here. Light up in the dark. Stays off in bright environment
Lag - Absolutely no lag. Dual core processor + 1GB RAM. This is not HTC Hero, It's the Amaze
Galaxy nexus - Hmmmm, a great device. Should you wait? that's up to you mate.
I'll just comment on battery life, mine hasn't been that bad at all, I routinely get through a full day without needing a charge. I use JuiceDefender, but other than that I don't change too much.
Thanks for your replies. As for battery, I'd like to get a full day (charge overnight, not have to recharge til next night) out of my phone without having to jump through hoops to make it possible.
As for Nexus, who knows if Telus will ever get it. The haven't exactly been leading the pack with getting the latest phones.
Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
It does not matter which you get, dual core devices eats battery.
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My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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It's because you don't have a source at HTC. That's what makes you a fan boy. Battery is about the same as long as it runs the same course of use. Really. Then again, that rumor is coming from a unreliable source. You! Let me hear your long Android history. I bet I got you beat hands down.
Sense 3.0 is much more responsive than Touch Wiz 4.0. How do I know this? I spend about 30+ hours in a T-Mobile show room a week. That's weird. Do I randomly through out the day try to load the same webpages on both phones? Yes. Does the HTC load full sites faster than the SGSII consistently? Yes. Have I carefully watched the battery and repeated the exact same tasks on both devices? Yes. Is the battery that much far off? No.
So is the battery life going to be that much better? Is it going to be significant enough to wait and get the Samsung Nexus? Probably not.
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Any issue with accidentally triggering the camera with the side buttons?
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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Haven't had it happen so far, and doubt it will with the way the buttons are made.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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I hold my phone with my right hand so the buttons are kind of awkward, where my thumb would normally go but I've adapted. They have to be held for a bit before they are triggered so I've never accidentally triggered it.
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As I stated in my first post, I'm more concerned with the car phone holder pressing against the buttons. I guess nobody else uses one of those. I'll have to bring the holder in with me and try it I guess.
Thanks for everyone's replies.
I have one of those types of car holders and don't have an issue with triggering the camera or charging the phone.
Can't comment on battery life yet, just got it Friday.
Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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I've had mine for 5 days now, so I'll help out.
- Battery life is horrible. If you text a lot, your battery will drain faster than I've ever seen in my long life of Android phones. Not to mention taking pics, streaming stuff, checking email, etc... It's awful.
- Camera is good, but not amazing as people would have us believe. It's definitely better than anything out at the moment, but I have a feeling the Galaxy Nexus camera is superior to this one, even at 5mp.
- Having issues with my soft buttons. They don't light up when they should (touch the screen). They only stay on occassionally when unlocking the phone, but it's random, doesn't always work. Hard to navigate in the dark when they don't light up.
- Laggy. Like, really laggy. The Sense is nice, but it is 3.0 with no guarantees of getting 3.5 The cosmetics of Sense really bog this down, even with the dual core processor. I get irritated with lag on these Android phones, and this is no different than the others.
My advice, wait. The Galaxy Nexus is coming to T-Mobile according to my source at Samsung, who just happens to be very high up in corporate in regards to the Samsung/T-Mobile relationship. Be patient and don't waste money/extend the contract when the best phone to date is coming out very soon. I'm returning my Amaze in a couple days.
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You got a lemon. My experience since launch day has been the EXACT opposite of what you just posted.
Battery=good
Camera=awesome (look into your settings)
Soft buttons=awesome. BEtter than my old Vibrant
Lag=none, not even when stock un-rooted
Your "source" means nothing.
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Do you happen to have a pic of your holder or the make/model? I don't know anyone who's used a side grip-style for a long time so I can't picture it.
I'm planning on getting an Arkon Slim Grip eventually and with the adjustable feet, it should work fine for any phone.
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This is the one I have - arkon(com)/megagrip/megagrip-windshield-car-mount.html
Liking that slim grip you posted though. Might replace mine with that.
two rezounds....same problem....
After i had the overheating issues and called vzw they insisted to send another rezound...so now I have two here...one with ics and one without....same batteries and everything
They both overheat the same.......EXACTLY the same.....hmmmmm....makes me think about htc devices....and its not the battery thats overheating...its the phone transferring the heat into the battery.
I got just above 51c and thats uh oh temps for battery on both .....absolutely horrid.
I love the phone but now the corp lady I talked to will have to do something about this..
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two rezounds....same problem....
After i had the overheating issues and called vzw they insisted to send another rezound...so now I have two here...one with ics and one without....same batteries and everything
They both overheat the same.......EXACTLY the same.....hmmmmm....makes me think about htc devices....and its not the battery thats overheating...its the phone transferring the heat into the battery.
I got just above 51c and thats uh oh temps for battery on both .....absolutely horrid.
I love the phone but now the corp lady I talked to will have to do something about this..
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what voltage batteries are they? 3.7v or 3.8v
They are both 3.7...the paint on the batteries is melted too from the heat...you can see silver underneath
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They are both 3.7...the paint on the batteries is melted too from the heat...you can see silver underneath
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Well, if you can't get your phone to work, at least now you can use it as a grenade or something of the sort.
hahahhahahaha yes....that would prob work...except I paid a lot of money for it so Ill let vzw do that
Really am curious now what hardware revision those two phones are, if they share common parts, though it is merely speculation on what could be a cause.
Mind looking? It is the P/N code on the label under the battery, last line. Including letter(s) after a space.
Mine sometimes get hot but nowhere near what you are reporting
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That isn't too bad. I have seen 130 degrees F before.
Im ok now...they sent me a gnex ...I know Im going to be happy with it ... The vzw tech even agreed the rezound has a crap battery but all is good besides that. Im gonna flash miui on my gnex and Ill be set to rock
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Im ok now...they sent me a gnex ...I know Im going to be happy with it ... The vzw tech even agreed the rezound has a crap battery but all is good besides that. Im gonna flash miui on my gnex and Ill be set to rock
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Hopefully you won't suffer from signal issues that many do with that phone
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I do hope so too...but they fixed them according to the 4.04 update....I think its 4.04 lol...but they fixed that
They are both part number
99HNU001-00 XA
It really seems funny both devices that I have are pcd 01/04/12
I wonder how long they sat before PCD got them and refurbished........quality control is bad these days.....
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99HNU001-00 XA
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Parts revision "XA" is the designation of all five units I've asked of people so far with extreme heat issues: your two phones, my first one, and those a couple of other users have.
I don't have extreme heat issues with my current "B" revision phone.
Companies change certain parts in the assembly lines over time to improve the product, e.g. make it cheaper to produce or more efficient. Sounds like a quality control issue in XA models that was addressed in B models and up (if any exist past B yet).
I suspect most anybody that has issues with the phone temperature going over 120F/49C and *staying* up there under moderate or light use, or gets to 131F/55C or more has rev. XA and is more likely to complain of overheating.
Disclaimer: I am no expert by any means and this is still all an educated guess at best. Just from personal experience, I could not find any software or firmware difference between my own XA and B models to account for the different performances in handling heat... Which leaves hardware as the cause.
HTC reps have even stated 120F is the max safe operating temp; that is when the green indicator light flashes. A case could be made that the entire XA line has defective hardware and replaced under warranty, if a poll of users should confirm this, or there is enough evidence from persons that have both models and can isolate all other factors.
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Parts revision "XA" is the designation of all five units I've asked of people so far with extreme heat issues: your two phones, my first one, and those a couple of other users have.
I don't have extreme heat issues with my current "B" revision phone.
Companies change certain parts in the assembly lines over time to improve the product, e.g. make it cheaper to produce or more efficient. Sounds like a quality control issue in XA models that was addressed in B models and up (if any exist past B yet).
I suspect most anybody that has issues with the phone temperature going over 120F/49C and *staying* up there under moderate or light use, or gets to 131F/55C or more has rev. XA and is more likely to complain of overheating.
Disclaimer: I am no expert by any means and this is still all an educated guess at best. Just from personal experience, I could not find any software or firmware difference between my own XA and B models to account for the different performances in handling heat... Which leaves hardware as the cause.
HTC reps have even stated 120F is the max safe operating temp; that is when the green indicator light flashes. A case could be made that the entire XA line has defective hardware and replaced under warranty, if a poll of users should confirm this, or there is enough evidence from persons that have both models and can isolate all other factors.
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mine is XA as well and gets pretty hot, 115-120. Maybe its time to get an exchange.
Mine got hot on ics but not on gb.. You should just get a replacement and try hboot reset or you should go to the HTC test menu and do a battery test
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overheating
I just received a certified preowned device and it could fry an egg with the heat it was producing. It also is an xa. One more thing is I couldn't get it a full charge after a whole night. They're sending me another one hopefully it won't be an xa.
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Mine got hot on ics but not on gb.. You should just get a replacement and try hboot reset or you should go to the HTC test menu and do a battery test
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I typed that in on my rezound, (stock/gb/non rooted or anything) XA part number device and nothing happened.....?
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PhantasmRezound said:
Parts revision "XA" is the designation of all five units I've asked of people so far with extreme heat issues: your two phones, my first one, and those a couple of other users have.
I don't have extreme heat issues with my current "B" revision phone.
Companies change certain parts in the assembly lines over time to improve the product, e.g. make it cheaper to produce or more efficient. Sounds like a quality control issue in XA models that was addressed in B models and up (if any exist past B yet).
I suspect most anybody that has issues with the phone temperature going over 120F/49C and *staying* up there under moderate or light use, or gets to 131F/55C or more has rev. XA and is more likely to complain of overheating.
Disclaimer: I am no expert by any means and this is still all an educated guess at best. Just from personal experience, I could not find any software or firmware difference between my own XA and B models to account for the different performances in handling heat... Which leaves hardware as the cause.
HTC reps have even stated 120F is the max safe operating temp; that is when the green indicator light flashes. A case could be made that the entire XA line has defective hardware and replaced under warranty, if a poll of users should confirm this, or there is enough evidence from persons that have both models and can isolate all other factors.
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mine is XA and std and ext 3.7 batts and always gets hot after moderate use for 15min or so. i havent even used the "high performance" power settings in months because I don't want the phone to explode!
I have a rev. B phone that overheats and dies pretty damn quick if you use it. Light web browsing would kick it up to 110-120 degrees, and drain the battery in a matter of a few hours games or anything else graphically intense could send it up to 130, and probably even 140 but I pull my battery before I let that happen.
What I thought was weird was my first replacement phone ran pretty badly too, then I stopped by a Verizon store and got my 3.8v battery switched for a 3.7v and my first phone ran a little better, but the replacement ran perfectly, until the charger port broke.
-.- 2 tries later and this phone is running perfectly, refuses to go over 115 under the most intense load, and the battery lasts for awhile. It's a rev. B phone too.
Seems to me you have to get the right voltage battery for the right hardware.
XA with a 3.7 battery on ICS here. My phone gets so hot that after 10-15 of surfing, i put it back in my pocket and my leg starts sweating. 120F+
Although i shouldn't have to, i've learned to just use it in short bursts. Also, i did NOT have the overheating issues with GB. I just stick with ICS because it is easily 2-3 times faster than GB. I just keep a charger nearby.
Also, on GB, my standard battery would last me until I got home from work. On ICS, my extended battery barely makes it until lunch
If my HTC EVO LTE was a human being and it had died the way it did, you bet your techie bottom that CSI and possibly Mulder and Scully from X Files would have been involved.
So with that being said:
It was a regular day. Woke up in the morning. Kissed my wife good morning, and grabbed my EVO to play around a bit. Then we headed to my in-laws business, of which we are in charge in the weekend. I usually take my laptop, so as I always do, I got easy tether going and proceeded to plug in my phone into my laptop. I have an application called droid wallet, which allows me to keep track of my finances. I intended to log something onto droid wallet, but I did not want to undo my tethering connection, so I simply reached behind the laptop without unplugging the phone and turned on the screen. I did so clumsily, and I accidentally turned the phone screen back off. When I attempted to turn it back on, it simply did not. I suddenly went, wtf? I kept on clicking the power button repeatedly, to no avail. I proceeded to unplug my phone from the computer. At this point, I realized the phone was not responding. I did long power button press, many short presses, everything I could think of. When I plugged it back into the charger, the charging light no longer triggered on. I hurried it to my local best buy (I got black tie protection) and they told me the phone was done for, and proceeded to give me a new one.
It was too late when i realized....at some point during the beginning of my vacation, my phone automatically switched to storing everything onto phone memory , and a whole trip's worth of pics and videos of a very meaningful vacation with my wife was completely gone.
Things like this are common with crappy build phones like samsung, as it has happened to most people. But HTC? They have never failed me like this. Do you guys have any idea wtf happened??
no comment on what might have happenned, but you should look into the picture auto-upload capabilities. I use the one from dropbox, but I think you can do it with google+ also.
this is the SAME issue that happened to my EVO YESTERDAY!!! the screen would jsut go off when i made a call, i couldnt power it back on and now i get NO charger light!!! ahh!
im going to the sprint store today to get a new one hopefully.
I think you screwed up and did it wrong. Maybe if you kissed your phone good morning and played around with your wife you wouldn't be having problems.
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I think you screwed up and did it wrong. Maybe if you kissed your phone good morning and played around with your wife you wouldn't be having problems.
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LMAO :good::good:
Did you try the power button plus the vol + and - buttons at the same time trick? The charger light wouldn't come on if it froze.
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Did you try the power button plus the vol + and - buttons at the same time trick? The charger light wouldn't come on if it froze.
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i didnt try that, but i think its a bit too late now. i have my new Evo and best buy kept the old one. I never tried that trick, but it was my understanding that that combination of buttons was to take a snapshot of the screen? or am i wrong?
And about the whole samsung vs HTC thing, let's just agree to disagree. No amount of arguing is going to convince me that Samsung is a better product, nor is it going to convince you that HTC is a better product. What I said I said based on personal experiences, and very extensive research. Im sure you have your reasons too. Im not a Samsung hater, either. I love their TVs and I have owned 2 of them. I just dont trust their phones. BUt I digress. Lets stay on topic, please, everyone.
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i didnt try that, but i think its a bit too late now. i have my new Evo and best buy kept the old one. I never tried that trick, but it was my understanding that that combination of buttons was to take a snapshot of the screen? or am i wrong?
And about the whole samsung vs HTC thing, let's just agree to disagree. No amount of arguing is going to convince me that Samsung is a better product, nor is it going to convince you that HTC is a better product. What I said I said based on personal experiences, and very extensive research. Im sure you have your reasons too. Im not a Samsung hater, either. I love their TVs and I have owned 2 of them. I just dont trust their phones. BUt I digress. Lets stay on topic, please, everyone.
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you're right, no one can argue that. Hope the issue at hand is isolated to very few devices.
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you should enable dropbox or google + auto upload that way you never going to lose ur pix and vids ever again ....every pic and video i take from my phones is backed up to my dropbox... always
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you should enable dropbox or google + auto upload that way you never going to lose ur pix and vids ever again ....every pic and video i take from my phones is backed up to my dropbox... always
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I dont have google + nor I plan to get one. ANyway to do auto upload without it?
And everyone please, as the OP, I think I have the right to say please STFU already. No more Samsung vs HTC debates, I thought I was clear in my previous posts. I intended this thread as a troubleshooting thread, not a debate one about manufacturer reliability. I do apologize, because I did bring it up in the first place, but I also quickly shot it down. What I said in my OP post about was not meant to troll. It was just meant to express my disbelief in HTC failing me, as personally, it has never done so before.
with the above being said, I do have an important development:
One of the things i disliked about this phone in the two first weeks I had it is that it became really hot on my ear when I used it for more than five miutes. To the point that I had to pull it away and set it to speaker mode for a little while for it to cool off. I thought it was a common EVO LTE thing, but surpirse surprise, my brand new EVO does not have this heating issue at all. It called directv today to haggle down prices (successfully, if i might add) and I was on the phone with them for at least one hour +. No heating at all. THere was another poster on here (first page I think) who said they had the exact same thing happened to them. I would love to confirm if the "burning your ear in less than 10 min" issue is directly related to sudden deaths of this device??
with the above being said, I do have an important development:
One of the things i disliked about this phone in the two first weeks I had it is that it became really hot on my ear when I used it for more than five miutes. To the point that I had to pull it away and set it to speaker mode for a little while for it to cool off. I thought it was a common EVO LTE thing, but surpirse surprise, my brand new EVO does not have this heating issue at all. I called directv today to haggle down prices (successfully, if i might add) and I was on the phone with them for at least one hour +. No heating at all. THere was another poster on here (first page I think) who said they had the exact same thing happen to them. I would love to confirm if the "burning your ear in less than 10 min" issue is directly related to sudden deaths of this device??
FWIW, I work at a repair store and I had one of these returned EVO LTE's to work one. Phone was completely DOA, could not power on, no indication of charging when plugged in, triage laptop didn't react when it was plugged in, pressing and holding power button for 60 seconds didn't work, lights on four capacitive buttons didn't flash, etc etc.
I had another known good EVO LTE that was returned because of buyer's remorse so I popped it open, disconnected the battery (which I knew for sure had at least 50% charge), and swapped it into the dead LTE and same deal-- phone still refused to power on.
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Bring it.
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You rang?
Hi, this is your invitation to leave and go to the sgs3 section, from your friendly neighborhood Evo LTE moderator.
I'm going to allow this thread to stay open for the moment, on the chances that the trolling and flaming ends. Fair warning everyone, go away now.
@OP - sorry your thread has devolved into childish bickering. Hopefully this straightens things up.
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FWIW, I work at a repair store and I had one of these returned EVO LTE's to work one. Phone was completely DOA, could not power on, no indication of charging when plugged in, triage laptop didn't react when it was plugged in, pressing and holding power button for 60 seconds didn't work, lights on four capacitive buttons didn't flash, etc etc.
I had another known good EVO LTE that was returned because of buyer's remorse so I popped it open, disconnected the battery (which I knew for sure had at least 50% charge), and swapped it into the dead LTE and same deal-- phone still refused to power on.
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OK first let me apologize for any side tracking of the thread. Sorry!
How do you pop it open? I'd love to be able to take the battery out.
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with the above being said, I do have an important development:
One of the things i disliked about this phone in the two first weeks I had it is that it became really hot on my ear when I used it for more than five miutes. To the point that I had to pull it away and set it to speaker mode for a little while for it to cool off. I thought it was a common EVO LTE thing, but surpirse surprise, my brand new EVO does not have this heating issue at all. I called directv today to haggle down prices (successfully, if i might add) and I was on the phone with them for at least one hour +. No heating at all. THere was another poster on here (first page I think) who said they had the exact same thing happen to them. I would love to confirm if the "burning your ear in less than 10 min" issue is directly related to sudden deaths of this device??
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Looked at a dead one "personal experience", under a lighted magnifier.
What I saw was a pin tip sized drop of solder, near the sdsocket. Seemed like an overheating issue, with what I assumed was a fuse. Though it could just have been a bad assembly which tested marginally with reduced burn in time. Just saying.
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I dont have google + nor I plan to get one. ANyway to do auto upload?
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As mentionr earlier, Dropbox is the way to go. It's free or 2GB and easy to increase your free space. Enable auto upload and pictures and videos automatically upload to a "camera upload" folder. You specify if upload only on wi-fi or either wi-fi or 3G. It s SO convenient and definitely worth a look.
Go to dropbox.com or use http://db.tt/WYZmyfxT and I'll get free referral space.
Had this just happen to me... Was on the phone and it completely died on me. No charging light, power button hit long and short. Nothing worked.
But... The holding the volume and the power buttons at the same time trick worked. I am now back on and ready to go. Thank god, I just got this damn thing set up the way I like.
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DCLocal said:
As mentionr earlier, Dropbox is the way to go. It's free or 2GB and easy to increase your free space. Enable auto upload and pictures and videos automatically upload to a "camera upload" folder. You specify if upload only on wi-fi or either wi-fi or 3G. It s SO convenient and definitely worth a look.
Go to dropbox.com or use http://db.tt/WYZmyfxT and I'll get free referral space.
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I got a free 25gb for buying this phone. So dropbox is really the way to go.
duce, i love it when you use the FORCE!!!!
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Had the issue Seems my fix was rapid plug/unplug while holding power. weird it was during a call
darkleafar said:
I dont have google + nor I plan to get one. ANyway to do auto upload without it?
And everyone please, as the OP, I think I have the right to say please STFU already. No more Samsung vs HTC debates, I thought I was clear in my previous posts. I intended this thread as a troubleshooting thread, not a debate one about manufacturer reliability. I do apologize, because I did bring it up in the first place, but I also quickly shot it down. What I said in my OP post about was not meant to troll. It was just meant to express my disbelief in HTC failing me, as personally, it has never done so before.
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If you have a Google account you have a google+ account its all tied into one big Web. Just DL the Google+ app. Doesn't require registration since you already have a Google account
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I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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I'm picking up a new phone from at&t tomorrow. The choices are the Samsung SG3 and the XO +. I've read the reviews, and after weighing the pros/cons and factoring in the price difference, I'm stumped. Does anyone have any hands on experience they can give me?
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Personally HOX+ hands down. SG3 dual core vs. HOX+ quad core + 1, really no comparison. Only thing the SG3 has on the HOX+ is the 2gb of ram and sd card slot i believe it has in the USA version. I played with the SG3 in the store as before i knew anything about the HOX+ i was thinking to get it over the new iphone 5. Thing looks and feels like a cheap piece of plastic and not liking it at all and the dull colors the screen produces. Really personally preference on your part but if going off the specs along the HOX+ hands down imo at least.
Walk into the ATT store tomorrow and be the first to play with the HOX+ in the store and i think instantly you will make your mind up .
SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
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SG3 has a removable battery. The hox+ doesn't.
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
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Agreed. The only time I've ever found a removable battery useful is when a phone is locked up and I need to yank the battery out to fix it.
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Battery pull on S3 for hard reset is same as holding power button for about 10 seconds on One X, yields same results and cold boots device
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An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
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An advantage of a phone with a removable battery is when the battery starts to deteriorate after maybe 3 years. With SGS3, you just buy a spare battery, pop it in and you're good to go. With HOX+, you'll have to take it to a service center and dissect the thing to have the battery replaced, and pay a service fee. Who knows if the phone will still feel as solid after tearing it up and putting it all back together. That said, I am still for the HOX+. Just something to consider if you're keeping the phone for a while.
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Well of course but who the heck holds onto the same device for 3+ years, lol? Not matter how cutting edge your current device is (this for example for the time being as in today, who knows about tomorrow), in a few months and for sure in a year your device will be outdated even with the latest software upgrades and you'll be drooling over the next best thing. Longest i've ever kept a device was 2yrs and that was the Iphone 4 when it first came out. Only reason why i held out so long is because i didn't like the S3 at all and had high hopes for the Iphone 5 which is a joke compared to what's out now. 3 years, that's crazy talk my friend
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I see people complaining so much about removable batteries but unless you live in the stone age, how and when are you not near a wall jack to plug your phone in? I always have my device on the charger while i sleep so i start the day with a fresh charge, i work a desk job in an office so all day at work i can always plug it in if needed, then at home obviously i can plug it in if needed. Unless you're a world back packing traveler, who and why would you carry around 2+ spare batteries with you? lol, never understood that stuff?
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I guess it depends upon one's lifestyle. I also charge my phone all night but during the day I am constantly moving. If I get to 20% by 5pm and then need to go out I like to have a spare battery in my pocket or briefcase. Also using the phone as a gps or tethering, which I do during the day, tends to drain the battery more than standby or talking. I spend a lot of time in airports and always see the poor folks gathered around the charging stands or wired to outlets in the floor. I don't have that problem if I have a couple of spare batteries charged. I can use the phone in the airport then on the plane. It takes 30 seconds to change a battery compared to hours to charge. Battery life is irrelevant if you can just replace them when they are dead, it doesn't matter if you get 12 hours or 24. At $4 each you can carry as may spares as you need.
But unfortunately it seems that the SG3 is the last top tier phone with a removable battery. The hox+, LG Optimus G, Sony Experia TL, and the Nokia Lumia 920 all have embedded batteries. Regardless I may end up with a hox+ and have to change the habits that I have developed since 2005. Maybe I will carry one of those AA battery recharging gadgets as a security blanket.
I want to take advantage of being able to upgrade my DNA at no cost to me, so I need to do that by the end of this year. The company is switching to employee purchase of phones starting next year. I'm on Verizon. Looking for recommendations from those that have switched, or are contemplating a switch soon. I've primarily been looking at the Turbo, LG G3, and One M8. I've been on HTC devices, so am comfortable/familiar with Sense, and currently running a One based ROM on my DNA. I'm also fond of the wireless charging options, but don't know if a lack of it is enough to rule a particular phone out. Being able to root is a plus. Also leaning to a replaceable battery being a plus as well. Wife recently picked up a Note 4. I'll look at it some more, but that seems almost too big.
Is anyone aware of any new devices due out this month? If not, what is your favorite option today and why?
Thanks!
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
The Droid Turbo was released not too long ago, and I'm really leaning towards it for my contract upgrade in a couple of weeks. It's still an internal battery unfortunately, but what caught my attention was it having nearly twice the capacity of the DNA. Since I have to charge my DNA halfway through the day, I'd be more than satisfied with the Turbo's battery life. Plus, it has some beefy specs as well. Camera has been reported to have some trouble with delay, but that might be corrected in a software update.
I did a little more reading last night and am starting to lean towards the LG G3. A little smaller than the Note 4 which is a good thing. Replaceable battery, rootable, and with a $10 hack can be changed to Qi wireless charging. I need to go spend some hands on time with it in the store. I've considered the Turbo as well, but with the reported camera issues, and some reporting earpiece volume issues, I just find myself questioning Motorola's product testing if they send these issues out with a hope to fix them later in a software update.
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I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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I don't know about you but toward the end of my 2 years on the DNA I'd have to plug my phone in after about 5-6hrs of moderate use or it was flat dead!
So far with the Note 4 I've actually managed 2 full days on one charge a couple times.. Keeping in mind it's a new phone so I'm playing on it a lot!
Also the fast charge is awesome! I have had it go from 50% to a full charge in about 15 minutes on the charger! (that's only using the included "adaptive fast charger" from Samsung)
The S-pen is cool! I felt like it might be one of those things that lost its "cool factor" once I played with it enough but I keep finding new useful reasons pull it out.. Easily screenshoting and cropping an Instagram post using the Screen Write function for example.
Or more obvious things like quickly jotting down a number or reminder. Which are a lot more useful and easy than I had though they would be.
The chances of getting a fully functional ROOT seem far out if it ever happens.. So that's a bit of a downside. But I can say this is the first phone I've had that I wasn't just dying to root. I honestly have very little reason to root it other than getting Lollipop before VZW and Samsung get it on the update manager.
The phone is big! I will say that.. Probably one of the only things I've had issues with is one handed typing. But I'm getting use to it. It can be very difficult stretching that thumb up to reach things with one hand but I guess that's the price we pay for a large screen. Which is a beautiful display by the way... Both cameras rock too! It's packed with fx, filters and neat camera features that are a lot of fun.
Anyway I hope you are happy with whatever you get! I did talk to a guy over the weekend who has LG G3 and he told me he "hates it" although he couldn't really tell me why.. Haha I haven't played with one but they seem pretty comparable
By the way I thought I'd share that when I got home and started typing this my battery was at 56% (after a full day of pretty heavy use) and in the time it's taken me to type this up (on the phone via tapatalk) while plugged into the fast charger I'm up to 72%
Just thought I'd share an update, in case the op might be still deciding.
I opted for the Note 4. Got it in the mail yesterday, and so far I'm very impressed! It's not as hard to handle as I thought it'd be due to its size. I have yet to give the battery a good test, gotta break it in and actually do a near full run-down, since I had it plugged in most of the day yesterday. But this display is absolutely gorgeous! Don't think I'll be using the s-pen much, but who knows, maybe I'll find more use for it further down the road. I also enjoy using the finger print scanner; I find it quicker to unlock. At times it's frustrating that it doesn't work, but that's because I'm not being precise enough.
Thought I'd share my first impressions. Thanks for the input starscream!
Guess I should've come back to update this. I wound up getting the LG G3 a week ago. Already rooted and installed Skydragon ROM and love it. I also purchased the sticker for the battery door that changes it from NFC only to NFC plus wireless charging. Battery life has been great, and I like the knock knock option for turning on the screen. Transition from my DNA to the G3 has been easy.
Appreciate the suggestions and feedback from everyone!