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I'm very interested in purchasing this phone and camera/video is important to me. I see in other threads that the still photo quality can be improved through software but what about audio of recorded videos? Every YouTube sample video that I've seen you can barely hear the audio and it is very thin sounding. For those that have the phone, any comments on audio recorded through the video camera and how to improve it?
Phone seems awesome otherwise.
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Why do you want DNA if you care about camera/video 920-iPhone 5-preview are your best bet.
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They are not the most important thing. I'm not a fan of IOS or Windows phone. Looking for the overall best android package. Display, Reception, Performance, Camera, and others are all factors. I think I understand the limitations of the phone for the most part. Trying to characterize the video quality by getting input from owners.
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Dare I state the obvious? Get whichever 'phone you like as a 'phone, then go out and spend $100 on a dedicated point-and-shoot camera.
No matter how bad a point-and-shoot camera is, it'll still be better than the best mobile 'phone camera on the market today, for the simple fact that a tiny lens (used out of necessity in 'phones) will never be able to match the visual clarity of a proper lens.
I'll only ever use my 'phone camera for taking very crude snapshots to remind myself of things (like the serial numbers of equipment I'm repairing). If I need to take an impromptu photo, I'll use my Panasonic point-and-shoot with Leica lens. If I need to take a proper photo, I'll use my Konica-Minolta DSLR.
Much like buying a bicycle and expecting it to propel you along at highway speeds, I think people're expecting a little too much of the tiny lenses and sensors in mobile 'phones. Be thankful that they're there, but don't ever expect them to be proper photographic tools.
BTW, sorry if this sounds like a dig at you - it's not - it's merely the culmination of spending too much time reading people's expectations of not-meant-for-anything-but-happy-snaps cameras.
I understand what you are saying. Just trying to figure out if the volume of the videos taken is as loud as it gets (per you tube videos/ at the store) or if there is some sort of workaround available. Hopefully someone with first hand knowledge can chime in.
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You can fix all the problems of the default camera by using 3rd party software. Presently I'm using Camera 360 Ultimate to take still shots and Camera ZOOM FX to take video (360 doesn't take video). DON'T use the crapware that comes from HTC.
For video playback, use MX Player. After installation, check all boxes under hardware encoding. Change the CPU cores to 4 and the color depth to 32-bit. Click on a movie to start playback then go into settings. Turn the brightness all the way up and Walla! Crystal clear, beautifully colored movie watching!
docnok63 said:
You can fix all the problems of the default camera by using 3rd party software. Presently I'm using Camera 360 Ultimate to take still shots and Camera ZOOM FX to take video (360 doesn't take video). DON'T use the crapware that comes from HTC.
For video playback, use MX Player. After installation, check all boxes under hardware encoding. Change the CPU cores to 4 and the color depth to 32-bit. Click on a movie to start playback then go into settings. Turn the brightness all the way up and Walla! Crystal clear, beautifully colored movie watching!
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Thanks Doc, so Camera Zoom FX produces satisfactory audio levels for video recording. That's the info I was looking for.
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Please check out the video I took with my 920, tell me your opinions and if you really want. request a review of the 920 Thank you all, I traded my nexus 4 in for this bad boy.
Not only the quality and focus test of videos but I want some photo tests too. If you could put photo/video raw files on Internet and let us download, it could be the best review.
I'm considering to get a 920 later but all photo/video reviews are almost resized on net, can't see the 100% quality out.
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
mrpinochio said:
I've read a good news from here : http://360dmobile.com/184/. It said that lumia 920 camera issue was fixed. It's such a great news, is there any lumia 920 users can confirm this fix
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Engaget posted a crapload of example photos
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/17/lumia-920-camera-fix/
Until any of us lowly users gets the update that's all the conformation we get.
I am glad there is a thread about this!!!
For all the hype behind that nokia camera!! i found it was TERRIBLE!!! my gf's HTC One X takes amazing pics compared to this Nokia 920!
The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
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The One X is featured in this test and doesn't fare as well as the 920 does.
http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/16087_PureView_shootout_Nokia_808_vs.php
Don't blame your camera for poor results, a camera is only as good as the person using it. If a good camera could create brilliant photographs in the hands of anyone then photographers wouldn't be in a job. Good light, subject matter, thoughts on framing and angles make good pictures, the camera is just there to record the result.
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lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
dc/dc said:
I can say with surety that after the update the camera is MUCH better.
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thanks! makes me feel a lot better knowing that there is hope!
Puff1911 said:
lol this entire thread is based on the 920 camera being balls
that said.. 920 point and click.. One X point and click.. One X wins..
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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I realise that. But photography is my hobby and if the 920 is guilty of anything it is having output that isn't extensively post processed. If you look at what the iPhone outputs it is photos that are sharpened and have increased contrast. If it saved what was captured at the sensor it would be very dull.
So with the 920 fix they've either reduced noise reduction which shouldn't have been applied in daylight or applied more post processing.
One X can't beat the 920 at video, especially concert footage, the sound of the 920 is much better, no distortion.
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Fair enough.. I haven't done any video with the 920.. so I have no comments on that.
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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jeromel said:
I too can confirm improvements on the camera. I just did night photos with night mode on and off. Literally, the difference is night and day. LOL
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Complaints have never been about night photos, but about "soft" daytime photos.
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I've noticed some slight improvement in the sharpness of the photos, but it's still nowhere as sharp as the photos taken with my Samsung Infuse, which is a horrible let-down.
a possible explanation
It's been suggested that maybe only the AT&T firmware carries the camera fix. That would explain why some folks swear their camera is fixed and others don't see the difference. I have a Rogers Lumia 920 and the camera is as awful as it was the first day I got it. The new firmware did nothing.
So for those who did see an improvement, can you confirm what model of Lumia 920 you have? Firmware number, revision number, batch number and all that so we can confirm apples to apples.
Thanks!
I have the AT&T version.. and I haven't been impressed by the camera. Even after the update.. I can see a minor difference.. but I still can't say it's all that great.
IMHO the One X+ is still beating my Nokia L920
Daytime is fine when the objects are near. But landscapes are where it sucks, but it seems to be focus related.
Dear friends,
On the official LG web site they say the LG V30 have:
1. 10-bit HDR Image Sensor – captures up to 211% more colors for improved accuracy. - ( I read tha article that LG have just 8 bit. And if they have 10 bit how they have bad photos, dynamic range.)
2. OIS+2.0 and EIS. (No one on YouTube says they have EIS, and if they have the EIS is not turn on??? Did we need tivwait update?)
3. Slow-Motion Video Recording – 1280 x 720 resolution, 240 FPS ( They are several YouTubers and web site that they say that LGV30 have just 120fps)
4. Steady Record 2.0 – record smoother, clearer videos on the move. (No one confirm this of users)
I don't have device, but I didn't find all of this things in any review of LG V30. Did LG lie? Or this is still beta software and we need to wait all of this?
Thx a lot for your answers and sorry for bad English :/
Some of your questions answered here:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-Q-A-Your-questions-answered_id99088
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And if they have 10 bit how they have bad photos, dynamic range.)
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I don't understand this question. All the reviewers say this f/1.6 rear camera is great and all the pictures I have seen in this forum are fantastic.
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I don't understand this question. All the reviewers say this f/1.6 rear camera is great and all the pictures I have seen in this forum are fantastic.
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Dear friend,
If you look at LG official web site, the 10 bit HDR photos have fantastic and much more color then former 8 bits HDR photos. But when you took photo with V30 a landscape mode where is buildings you will see the building but the behind of building will be all white, they are no a blue sky. Just look the photos dynamic range is very bad. Bur they promise very good HDR with 10 bits. And other things what i wrote i didn't see in V30.
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Dear friend,
If you look at LG official web site, the 10 bit HDR photos have fantastic and much more color then former 8 bits HDR photos. But when you took photo with V30 a landscape mode where is buildings you will see the building but the behind of building will be all white, they are no a blue sky. Just look the photos dynamic range is very bad. Bur they promise very good HDR with 10 bits. And other things what i wrote i didn't see in V30.
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That's because those stock photos are probably taken on a medium format and NOT a V30. Or a ton of expensive equipment with the V30.
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2. OIS+2.0 and EIS. (No one on YouTube says they have EIS, and if they have the EIS is not turn on??? Did we need tivwait update?)
4. Steady Record 2.0 – record smoother, clearer videos on the move. (No one confirm this of users)
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Steady Record 2.0 is the same as EIS, when you turn Steady Record on in settings you turn on EIS. And guys on Youtube typically just post videos but they don't tell much if it was shot with Steady Record enabled or with Steady Record disabled. Hence we don't see if enabling EIS have much effect on stabilization. Even in this video it is unknown whether it was shoot with EIS on
isko01 said:
Dear friends,
On the official LG web site they say the LG V30 have:
1. 10-bit HDR Image Sensor – captures up to 211% more colors for improved accuracy. - ( I read tha article that LG have just 8 bit. And if they have 10 bit how they have bad photos, dynamic range.)
2. OIS+2.0 and EIS. (No one on YouTube says they have EIS, and if they have the EIS is not turn on??? Did we need tivwait update?)
3. Slow-Motion Video Recording – 1280 x 720 resolution, 240 FPS ( They are several YouTubers and web site that they say that LGV30 have just 120fps)
4. Steady Record 2.0 – record smoother, clearer videos on the move. (No one confirm this of users)
I don't have device, but I didn't find all of this things in any review of LG V30. Did LG lie? Or this is still beta software and we need to wait all of this?
Thx a lot for your answers and sorry for bad English :/
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1) Dynamic Range and "color range" (not what it is really called but we'll go with it as it's an easier term to relate to) capture are two different things. Dynamic range in simplest terms is how much detail can you capture between complete black and complete white. You will see people get really pissy if they can't get every detail in a bright sunlit cloud AND the back of a cave in the same shot.
The 211% increase in color capture is actually found in the spaces between colors. So instead of just capturing red, yellow, and blue, the increase color capture would be red, orange, yellow, green, blue, and purple. Or if you wanted to get even more specific, instead of capturing just green, you get forest green, kelly green, British racing green, acid green, moss green, lichen, chartreuse, etc.
2) OIS seems to be always on and I really wish we had a switch to turn it off and on like on my lenses but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. EIS, as stated before, is Steady Record which does seem to have a switch in 1080 resolution. I haven't had a chance to play with it as much as I'd like but after watching a video earlier this week I might play with these two more. I was trying to figure out why my 1080 video didn't look stabilized compared to my 4k video. After watching some video somewhere, it turns out the OIS and EIS might be fighting each other. That's in video.
Also, in extremely loud environments I've noticed that either OIS or I am being moved a lot by stuff like a heavy beat coming out of speaker right next to me. Like I said, I need to play with the video more. I've shooting stills for a few decades and have a handle on that. I only tackle video once in a great while and really need to sit down and invest more time into learning it.
3) Slow motion. If you go into the manual video mode and pick out your video resolution to 720 and pick your frame rate, the highest you will get is 120fps. If you go into camera modes and pick the slo-mo option, that's where the 240fps resides. You can test this out by recording a video in manual set to 720p/120fps then another in just the slo-mo mode.
4) See #2, I'm still trying to wrap my head around what all is going on here.
Think there needs to be a thread for photos taken on the P30 Pro, given how the key feature of this phone is the camera(s).
I've also created a Google Photos gallery that people can share photos on (and video). It's non-commercial, and anyone that posts a photo obviously retains their own copyright.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/crLDcUSr9mxgJCSV8
So far the gallery has some examples of the various zoom levels (and wide angle), low-light and some very impressive shots of the sun. I am really loving the flexibility of the camera in just about all conditions.
I can't wait to see photos from others.
camera only good at zoom is a camera half good, in a perfect world it would do miracles with video aswell if it used Snapdragon 855
Any chance someone can put some super-slow-mo videos up please?
Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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Id like to see someone post a sample too.
I saw a video on YouTube and slowMo looked absolutely horrible. Also not as slow as the phone it was compared to. Ive watched so many videos on the p30 that I doubt I could find the video again.
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This 960fps slow motion is fame with Huawei
Extremely bad quality besides s10 plus
I saw the video too
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I dont like the over sharpness at night with night mode
Pixel xl 3 night sight is way better in term of normal details and Colours
Huawei needs to work hard to fix image processing with night mode and faces details
Sorry, but these photos do nothing for me in terms of showing what the phone is capable of. Many (most?) of the photos are shaky or way too soft even at ISO50. I do like how the colors look tho, especially in the night photos.
Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
Here's a few samples of mine, i had the P30 Pro since launch day and it's a camera champ. But i don't recommend you go beyond the 5x optical focal length or it won't be pretty. The noise reduction in jpeg's is a bit too strong for my taste, i hope Huawei tones it down. However the raw files are very nice to work with.
1. Flower is shot in raw at iso 50 indoors.
2. Church shot using 16mm ultrawide angle.
3, 5x at the church clock, shot raw.
4. 16mm indoors at chuch.
5. Building shot at 5x in raw.
6. Hotel interior at 16mm ultrawide angle, shot in jpeg.
7. Test of ToF sensor and fake bokeh at water fountain.
8. 5x at outdoor hotel pool 50 meters above ground. Shot from below.
/ Magnus
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Here's a new video that was posted comparing the slow Mo
https://youtu.be/qffBzSC7DmY
Hopefully the p30 improves!
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Thanks for sharing. That is a shame, but still better than the shockingly bad P20 Pro that wasn't actually 960fps...
I feel this will be a great camera replacement phone for my Mate 20 Pro of course until the Mate 30 Pro comes out... I wonder if Huawei will completely ditch 3D face and notch... will be interesting. The Mate 20 Pro is a great phone... brought me back from the Apple Darkside. I can't see Apple being able to keep up with Samsung and Huawei (even Xiaomi for that matter) in the top camera phone space, anymore.... IMO. They have just lost so much ground to make it all up with their incremental updates.... I think android has brought me back with better technology, we'll see if it keeps me.
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First photo taken in our condominium courtyard.
Sorry to be the bad guy, but there are no real details. It suffers from the well known Huawei processing. This phone is good for the Instagram generation, but it takes bad photos. Not true to life.
Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
Any video samples? For me video is more important than photos and it seems the Kirin CPU can not handle video with high enough bitrate, I see occasional stutter too. One reviewer mentioned that 4K video did appear like it was actually 1440p upscaled. One other review did check video bitrate and framerate and both did appear low (I think it was 27Mbps and 28fps for a 4K video).
I wonder if these things could be tweaked by modifying camera app, to try increase bitrate.
EDIT: The video review showing P30 Pro video bitrate, framerate and panning stutter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LaeCzEMEgw
So many reviews out there seem to be sponsored, looking for real-life video examples.
leoni1980 said:
Took delivery of mine today. Not impressed at all - the usual overprocessed, smeary Huawei ****e that's probably great for those who like to mess about with DNG and Lightroom but as an auto shooter is behind the pack for normal photos VS pretty much all the other flagships.
Hopefully the promised software update with camera improvements will reach my device soon and blow me away. Already kind of pissed that my dual SIM Amazon device is actually single SIM but to be behind on a supposedly critical update already is not helping my feelings towards this phone.
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I have the opposite experience. Samples found online wasn't that impressive, but I quite like how the photos I take (in daylight so far) look., even when zoomed in. It's definitely not as sharp as say, Pixel 3XL, but very good.
I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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EricMartinSoCal said:
I agree. The dog looks great. I'm also using a Galaxy S10+ and though I love the phone, you can barely take a pic of an animal because it smudges and smooths everything so badly. My P30 will be here soon and I'm encouraged by those pics.
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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My advice is to not get too excited. The examples given are in searing sunlight and even then there's some smearing and oversharpening. In the case of the dog, it's just sat still - not a challenging scenario for any phone.
Apparently some people in the UK have had the new update so I'm hoping to get it over the weekend.
I currently also have an S9 and an iPhone XR and the photos from both of those devices are better so far (with the exception of low light shots).
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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Maybe you should post side-by-side comparison shots so we can see how better those phones' cameras are.
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I want to get the 124 update before I do much more testing but here for example is a crop of some daffodils in the sunlight from the XR and P30 Pro (no AI mode).
I wish I had the .124 update before family day at the zoo but still impressed with these 10x zoom. My S10 could definitely not do this. Keep in mind that lion was through streaky zoo glass.