Whats your impression of the Backup feature in WP8? - Nokia Lumia 920

As originally described, I thought it was hoaky. But watching it in action a couple of times, I like it. I do see that when installing the apps, I always seem to get several apps that need attention, and won't resolved.
But, text messages are saved, Themes are saved, but NOT screen layout. Login for accounts are pushed with a prompt.
Takes most, not all, of the pain of a hard reset away.

For me is useless.
It just copy the list of the installed apps WITHOUT the data!
It does not save the start screen..
Conclusion, if you hard reset the phone you can just restore the list of apps some configurations and SMS..
I was waiting for the same iCloud backup
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iosub said:
For me is useless.
It just copy the list of the installed apps WITHOUT the data!
It does not save the start screen..
Conclusion, if you hard reset the phone you can just restore the list of apps some configurations and SMS..
I was waiting for the same iCloud backup
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Really? It installed all of my 40+ apps. That alone makes it descent.

alodar1 said:
Really? It installed all of my 40+ apps. That alone makes it descent.
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I think it's useless as well. If you're using an unlocked phone it doesn't work at all. You can't go through the setup properly because you have no data until you input your APN. Once you do, you have no chance to restore from backup.

i didn't think much about it until i switched my black 920 for a white one, and man was it nice having it download my apps and input all my settings for me. it's still a little buggy (with the apps that require attention and the lack of the start screen layout being saved) but it's a pretty handy feature imo.

adiliyo said:
i didn't think much about it until i switched my black 920 for a white one, and man was it nice having it download my apps and input all my settings for me. it's still a little buggy (with the apps that require attention and the lack of the start screen layout being saved) but it's a pretty handy feature imo.
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I think the apps that require attention are the preinstalled Nokia apps needing update. As long as I know what they are, I'm good.

It installed 79 apps for me, (except for Nokia Exclusives, Qty.4), I had to enter email passwords, and my setting were all restored. Compaired to what we had to do before had Im happy. I imagine it will get better too. As for app & game date backup I have a few games and apps that offer them via the app.

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[Q] After flashing a new ROM, easily way to restore screen config?

I'm sure that there are several out there that have a fair amount of customization scattered across the 7 screens. I typically group similar apps in Folders. Anyway, from the 7-8 search phrases I tried there was nothing useful that came up in the TB forums.
Will I have to reconfigure my screens every time I flash a ROM or is there a way to restore the icon/app arrangement? I'm not worried about the middle/home screen just the other 6.
Back when I used a WinMo phone I relied on Sashimi to handle all the icon/screen arrangements; or did it manually using a file explorer. Obviously the Droid directory/config structure is quite different. Not to mention that efforts to locate an app analogous to MyMobilier have turned up dust.
i use titanium backup. you can back up all your apps and there data as well as stuff like homescreens accounts wifi spots etc. when you need to pick which things to backup get all user apps and all the green system data. then restore it all when you switch roms.
dak_181 said:
i use titanium backup. you can back up all your apps and there data as well as stuff like homescreens accounts wifi spots etc. when you need to pick which things to backup get all user apps and all the green system data. then restore it all when you switch roms.
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But it won't put back your widgets. I've heard of nothing that will.
Razgueado said:
But it won't put back your widgets. I've heard of nothing that will.
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Widgets are live feeds so no is a limitation for now, best bet is what the other poster said
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I don't think there's anything that will restore widgets.
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it restores stock widgets and gives a little error screen for where other ones are. seriously how hard is it to re set like 2 or three widgets really?
Yeah mine came back with batch restore on titanium but like it was said. Other than stock needed to be manually added
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Agreed on the restore aspect of TiBu. I'm not too bad of a flash junkie so I'll deal for now. Still trying to dig up info on why the Market doesn't show my 40-50 downloaded apps after a flash and google sync though. I did get my app icons/folders restored to the Sense screens w/ TiBu, but it trashed the BAMF3.0 default. I have screen captures from ShootMe so I can manually restore the look next time I flash. Thanks for the replies.
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Agreed on the restore aspect of TiBu. I'm not too bad of a flash junkie so I'll deal for now. Still trying to dig up info on why the Market doesn't show my 40-50 downloaded apps after a flash and google sync though. I did get my app icons/folders restored to the Sense screens w/ TiBu, but it trashed the BAMF3.0 default. I have screen captures from ShootMe so I can manually restore the look next time I flash. Thanks for the replies.
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yeah i dunno about apps, but market.google.com will show you everything youve ever downloaded
True. Just wasn't crazy about clicking every single one to get them back after a flash. Hopefully the hurry-up-n-wait method suggested elsewhere will work; could take a couple of hours to "fully-sync" after a flash.
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I'm sure that there are several out there that have a fair amount of customization scattered across the 7 screens. I typically group similar apps in Folders. Anyway, from the 7-8 search phrases I tried there was nothing useful that came up in the TB forums.
Will I have to reconfigure my screens every time I flash a ROM or is there a way to restore the icon/app arrangement? I'm not worried about the middle/home screen just the other 6.
Back when I used a WinMo phone I relied on Sashimi to handle all the icon/screen arrangements; or did it manually using a file explorer. Obviously the Droid directory/config structure is quite different. Not to mention that efforts to locate an app analogous to MyMobilier have turned up dust.
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I use LauncherPro (free version in market) and there is an option to back up your screens (menu/preferences/backup home screen & settings). Does not do widgets, but I don't have a problem adding the few back that I do use.
After I flash a ROM I get all my apps back either via TiBackup or the market and once I switch to Launcher Pro as my home screen program I just do menu/preferences/restore backup and all my little icons are back where they should be.
Just make sure you restore the LPro backup AFTER you restore your apps or the backup won't be able to point to the right app.

Best way to backup and restore in Titanium Backup?

With updates of ROMs being released so quickly, and not wanting to update rather than flash the full ROM, I'm going to start backing up using Titanium Backup.
I am quite happy to backup absolutely everything, but am cautious about restoring things like system settings. Ideally what I would like is to be able to restore all the apps that I had before, their data, and possibly the layout of my homescreens.
How would I do this?
Is there anything I should probably not restore that could mess things up?
Thanks a lot for any replies.
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
The easiest way is this: go into titanium backup and press the menu bitten on your phone. Then press batch. Then look for something that says backup all user apps. Click the bitten next to that that says run. Then check 'backup user apps + data' and then uncheck any apps you don't want backed up, and then click run on the bottom. This will backup all your downloaded apps and data, like saved games, etc. You can also do the same things for system apps, but I can't guarantee that they will all work. Hope this helps
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If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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If you click batch all your apps are selected so you can backup all your apps with 1 clicks, even with the unpaid version. However with the paid version you can set up scheduled backups so it will backup automatically every week, or whenever you set it to
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I was talking about restoring, not backing up. Have you ever restored 200 apps with the unpaid version? It's VERY boring
johncmolyneux said:
You can backup all apps and data and then restore them later, without worrying about side-effects. This backup will include your launcher and therefore screen layouts, but will not include widgets. You'll need to add them again manually after you restore (it's a permission thing - nothing other that your is allowed to put widgets on your home screens).
System settings is a different story. If you're going from one ROM to another, or changing FW, there could be conflicts and it could cause problems. I tend to always have a backup and only restore system settings if I need to factory reset for some reason.
If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend paying for the pro version, as it can become very boring having to click a couple of buttons for every app you want to restore. The pro version does all apps without the need for interaction.
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Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
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Thanks XD) but I'm talking more about the restore aspect.
@johncmolyneux
Thanks for your help. So I'm thinking the process will be along the lines of:
backup/restore > batch > backup all user apps
then
batch > restore missing apps with data > selecting app+ data
I will almost certainly buy the pro version of this app, as I'll be using it a lot.
One thing I am particularly anal about is restoring my vast collection of texts going back about 3 years - will restoring the GoSMS app and its data include all these. Probably obvious but I thought I'd ask just to make sure.
Also, I keep getting a message saying that I should check usb debugging as it might cause problems. What's that all about?
Thanks again.
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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That's the process mate - you've got it.
Titanium Backup requires that you have USB debugging enabled, which you get to via Settings, Applications, Development.
As for backing up and restoring text messages, I simply could not recommend any higher an application called SMS Backup+ (free in the Market). It creates a folder in your Gmail account and automatically uploads all text messages to that folder. You can do a restore whenever you like. It's seamless and works perfectly. If you want to keep SMS then look no further! I've gone over easily 30 ROM flashes with it, and now a new phone, and have never lost a single message.
It also means, of course, that you can access you SMS from any browser, which is nice (Can't send from gmail though.)
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Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
str0ppy said:
Ok, last question. Can I just have usb debugging enabled at the time that I backup and at the time that I restore. I prefer to not have it checked generally - lots of annoying pop up messages on my PC at work etc...
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Long time since I've clicked "thanks" instead of quote! Have a thanks
Yes mate - you can just turn it on and off for Titanium.
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Top man. Thanks again.
str0ppy said:
Top man. Thanks again.
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No problem mate. Enjoy
Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
str0ppy said:
Ok so one last question. I understand that Titanium Backup will save the data for my third party launcher, so will preserver all the homescreen arrangments. But if I use TouchWiz, would that count as a system and therefore not preserved if I only backed up and restored user apps and data?
Cheers.
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You might be able to backup and restore the data for touchwizz, not tried.
As far as system data, if the item is green in titanium is ok to restore, if its red, beware.
AFAIK, TouchWiz is just another launcher, so you should be okay to restore, but pay attention to the item colour, as mentioned by veyka.
Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
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Ok thanks a lot. Man of many questions at the moment, quite new to Android.
So last one...
When I set up the OS from scratch after a flash, when I get the option to either backup/restore to my Google account, what actually gets backed up then?
Cheers.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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I'm not sure about this one as I've seen different things happen. Sometimes, I've had apps installed again after a new ROM flash, but other times that hasn't happened. I've also had inconsistent results with restoring wifi settings. The only thing I generally rely on Google to store is my contacts. Other than that, I use Titanium for everything, just to be sure.
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Ok, thanks.
Hi
I flashed the ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):
I have Apex launcher pro and Titanium Backup ★ root pro.I made a TB backup in cm9 . I restored all of apps and data and it went well on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm (4.1.2):. But
I would like to know how to restore all the widgets on ParanoidAndroid 2.55cm with Apex launcher pro home screens ?

[Q] Full Phone Backup and Restore

Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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No. You need root and/or unlocked bootloader (for using CWM) to do a full backup.
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Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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bill1clinton said:
Hi Guys,
The iphone had itunes where whenever you update to a new IOS, it will restore everything with a simple click (contacts, sms, apps, settings, everything etc). From what I have read, Titanium backup seems to do this however, it requires root access. As well, I've tried to use the PC Companion backup/restore function, while it claims that it backed up my text messages, when I tried to restore, all it did was restore my pictures, it seems to restore nothing else. Therefore, my question is, is there a program available that will do a FULL backup/restore without the need for root access?
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A simple answer is NO. You need root access to backup application data.
When I saw the Backup & Restore option under PC Companion, like you I also wa delighted and tested it for disappointment.
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Sikiduck said:
Mybackup allows you to back up applications & media and data. To backup images of the ROM you'll need xRecovery and thats not possible in your case as the guy above me mentioned clearly.
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I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
bill1clinton said:
I don't need to backup the ROM. I only want things such as contacts, sms, settings, apps backed up.
I do apologizes if I sound like I'm being an Apple fanboy. However, as restrictive and annoying itunes was, it certainly did an excellent job in getting you up and running very quickly and easily.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Agreed on your point with iTunes, but the concept of Google is to keep as much as possible off to the cloud.
There are plenty of apps out there on the Play store.
I use SMS Backup & Restore to backup SMS. It does a pretty good job and it can be scheduled as well if you like.
Contacts can be sync to Google and again, you can export the contacts to SD Card if you prefer that way.
The applications and their data (if allowed by the developer), settings are also can be backed up to the Google servers if you enable the option Settings --> Privacy --> Back up my data. I tested this and majority of the apps don't support it, yet. I guess app developers will support in the future.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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Thanks for the helpful advice. I certainly do appreciate it. If I may though, Android being that much more customizable then iOS, I find it rather strange that there is no program that serves the same purpose as iTunes. I love how much I can customize my experience with Android, however, it certainly presents quite a significant annoyance when there is a need to re-do all your customization just because you updated to a new firmware. Once again, not trying to troll, just puzzled.
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Oh, definitely not trolling - it really is annoying. Especially when there's an option in Android to "back up all my settings and application data to the cloud" but it does not back up all savegames, nor SMS, etc etc. Much like you, I kinda expected a bit more here.
This is probably why SE put in it's own backup/restore service.
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From the day I bought my first Android phone (X10), I've been puzzling and searching for this very answer and the same software an option like you mentioned. But until today, I haven't found one.
But I'm pretty sure that Google will surely hear this and will implement a new one or improve the existing one. Until those days come....
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
I found freeware software that lets you backup apps (and you don't need to download the additional data when you restore them), texts and contacts, which worked pretty fast and didn't crash or hang like PC Companion tends to do.
It's called Wondershare MobileGO.
http://www.wondershare.com/android-manager/
May not be completely what you had in mind as it doesn't backup settings and such, but at least you don't need root and it backs up quite a lot of useful stuff.
Snmjm said:
I came across a guide on how to back up everything on the galaxy nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
I don't have a galaxy nexus & I haven't tried it myself.
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I guess it only works in ICS. Tried it on XS and get an error "adb: cannot open file ./backup.ab" (of course, I tried the solution provided in the thread, but didn't work).

Transfer apps and data from old phone

I'm trying to transfer my apps including data (incl settings) from my previous phone but it doesn't work. Phone to phone - apps worked but lost the settings.
Via adb and restore didn't worked either.
I don't want to root my Pixel just to restore stuff from my old phone. Is Android really that bad?
Also enable backup to GDrive on my old phone doesn't work! Just saying 'waiting for backup...'.
Anyone ideas?
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I'm trying to transfer my apps including data (incl settings) from my previous phone but it doesn't work. Phone to phone - apps worked but lost the settings.
Via adb and restore didn't worked either.
I don't want to root my Pixel just to restore stuff from my old phone. Is Android really that bad?
Also enable backup to GDrive on my old phone doesn't work! Just saying 'waiting for backup...'.
Anyone ideas?
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Sure thing. Enter your login info again and that's that. Not sure what you mean with the question is Android really that bad. As compared to what? Most of the settings including wifi, apps, launcher style, sounds etc are transferred without issue. You will have to login to your apps again but Google makes even that pretty easy. Figure it out or give it up. Your choice.
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Sure thing. Enter your login info again and that's that. Not sure what you mean with the question is Android really that bad. As compared to what? Most of the settings including wifi, apps, launcher style, sounds etc are transferred without issue. You will have to login to your apps again but Google makes even that pretty easy. Figure it out or give it up. Your choice.
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I wish it was like this. Some of the apps were not transfered at all. Others got replaced with newer ones (I did not update them on purpose). None of the have the previous settings.
The comparison is to a reliable and usable software!
A rate of 80% working is not satisfying. And reinstalling is not restore.
TGHH said:
I wish it was like this. Some of the apps were not transfered at all. Others got replaced with newer ones (I did not update them on purpose). None of the have the previous settings.
The comparison is to a reliable and usable software!
A rate of 80% working is not satisfying. And reinstalling is not restore.
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Not sure how you did it but I've done it 3 times over the last month and almost everything was transferred. I had to login as I said but Google held the login credentials and I merely had to click to approve. I think out of all my apps one or two didn't get installed for one reason or another. That's about 98 % for me and well within the acceptable range.
What exactly do you consider usable software where everything is restored exactly as before? Just curious.
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Not sure how you did it but I've done it 3 times over the last month and almost everything was transferred. I had to login as I said but Google held the login credentials and I merely had to click to approve. I think out of all my apps one or two didn't get installed for one reason or another. That's about 98 % for me and well within the acceptable range.
What exactly do you consider usable software where everything is restored exactly as before? Just curious.
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Well, it seems like the only sane way is to root the phone and restore with Titanium Backup.
But this is not a way for the normal user and you will loose warranty.
Even simple apps like icon packs are skipped.
Just a heads up - seems like only backup to GDrive works a kinda properly. Not all apps and settings are there but most of them.

V30 update to pie, lost all homescreen configs and no black navigation bar

Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
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From what I noticed, the navigation bar can be set black with a black theme, however, it still becomes white in certain apps (eg. Chrome).
I didn't see a way to make it black universally.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
Also my navigation bar cannot be set to black anymore -> any help?
system seems very laggy, hope that sorts after all app updates are through.
this is not a nice expierence.
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After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
Edvin73 said:
After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
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surprised of how awfull it is to restore an android phone?
there are so many apps (like home banking) that are linked to the phone and cannot be backed up... I try to avoid that. But I guess it is time to switch to Samsung S10 soon was hoping to wait a little longer till the prices go down.....
but the pie update also seems to drain my battery even faster. what a mess
carlaron said:
surprised of how awfull it is to restore an android phone?
there are so many apps (like home banking) that are linked to the phone and cannot be backed up... I try to avoid that. But I guess it is time to switch to Samsung S10 soon was hoping to wait a little longer till the prices go down.....
but the pie update also seems to drain my battery even faster. what a mess
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Well, the battery drain is just another reason to factory reset and it's kinda ironic that you'll have to set your new phone anyway.I told you to factory reset because I solved a lot of problems on my phones through the years after major updates. It's not mandatory but very advisable. At the end it's your phone and your will to do it and set it again.
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Well, the battery drain is just another reason to factory reset and it's kinda ironic that you'll have to set your new phone anyway.I told you to factory reset because I solved a lot of problems on my phones through the years after major updates. It's not mandatory but very advisable. At the end it's your phone and your will to do it and set it again.
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it is probably what I have to d. but it sure makes it easier to move away from a 15 month old phone.... I just didn't expect LG pushing me away. I was loyal for some time, and I really think this is one of the most beautiful phones of its time; but it sure does not perform well (anymore).
is there any "small" cache reset that will not delete everything?
in case it is interesting for someone:
Last SOT test from a few days ago (before the update) was 4:45 with normal use, mostly indoors, which is not great, but good enough, since I use my phone alot and sometimes charge 2-3 times a day.
will try a regular test with pie in a few days, but I am too busy to have it under similar conditions...
Edvin73 said:
After a big update like from Oreo to Pie is always very advisable to factory reset the phone. You'll be surprised.
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This. It's a new UI and UX, clean install is not difficult thanks to Google backup. I will definitely do a clean install.
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This. It's a new UI and UX, clean install is not difficult thanks to Google backup. I will definitely do a clean install.
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a clean install is actually difficult; (as well as to switching to other brand phones)
- my messaging apps loose all there messages (some have manual backup)
- banking apps loose there unique keys -> need to be reauthorized with the bank
- two factor auth apps need to carefully be restored
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of course if you have a few plain games that are cloud synced, this does not matter; but if you actually use the phone it is not so easy to restore all data; (especially ensuring that nothing of importance gets lost)
I will go as far as wipe cache partition i/o factory reset. Every phone has it flaws at some point.
sure.
its just bad that there is not a streamlined backup method; LGs "mobile switch" is a mess, and gets stuck regularly on messaging apps with many files(?)
best results with preinstalled apps was actually with Huawei/honor; they seem to work quite well (but I don't like there aggressive power management)
I don't like to reset a phone before I have everything setup in a different phone (2 factor etc...) because I would hate to loose data and money.
so now I either get a cheap crap phone; or another LGV30 (cheap as hell at the moment, but getting old), or a new samsung, which I didn't plan on before autumn and new phones released....
carlaron said:
a clean install is actually difficult; (as well as to switching to other brand phones)
- my messaging apps loose all there messages (some have manual backup)
- banking apps loose there unique keys -> need to be reauthorized with the bank
- two factor auth apps need to carefully be restored
...
of course if you have a few plain games that are cloud synced, this does not matter; but if you actually use the phone it is not so easy to restore all data; (especially ensuring that nothing of importance gets lost)
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I had the same struggles you have. :laugh:
Ultimately I had to give up and switch back to Android Messenger. It backs up all messages. For 2-factor authentication I use Authy so it can restore my codes from the cloud. But you are correct, I use Android on my Chromebook and setup a 2nd two factor method (email) in my accounts before I reset my phone. I'm annoyed by games, I had to restart so many already even though Google Play Games promises to save the progress. Hope you find another way.
carlaron said:
it is probably what I have to d. but it sure makes it easier to move away from a 15 month old phone.... I just didn't expect LG pushing me away. I was loyal for some time, and I really think this is one of the most beautiful phones of its time; but it sure does not perform well (anymore).
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This is pretty much mandatory on any device. When flashing a new OS zip in TWRP, it's always a clean install. 7-8 and 8-9.
Even if not rooted and take an OTA, you either have to let the update settle or just factory reset. I've seen MANY people throughout the years on XDA complain about the newest OS version.
The general reply will always be factory reset.
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carlaron said:
I don't like to reset a phone before I have everything setup in a different phone (2 factor etc...) because I would hate to loose data and money.
so now I either get a cheap crap phone; or another LGV30 (cheap as hell at the moment, but getting old), or a new samsung, which I didn't plan on before autumn and new phones released....
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You are very misinformed here. 2factor will just send you a text. If you are that worried, turn it off till you setup the device again.
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BROKEN1981 said:
You are very misinformed here. 2factor will just send you a text. If you are that worried, turn it off till you setup the device again.
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I have severa websites that are set up to use 2 factor authentification. If I delete the app before I remove 2factor on those sites or set it up new, I am looked out.
If I loose the key to interpret the text correctly I am ****ed
Where am I misinformed? elaborate
I noticed that the PIE update fixed issues with the camera; that pictures would not get saved, when closing the app (too fast) after taking a picture.
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I noticed that the PIE update fixed issues with the camera; that pictures would not get saved, when closing the app (too fast) after taking a picture.
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And we told you to stop doing that. The fix for that was to leave the camera open in the background, until the camera finished its process.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-photos-saving-quick-exit-camera-t3894278
You were taking a picture and immediately force closing the camera before the HDR function could finish.
You also complained about the January update to AOD.
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carlaron said:
I have severa websites that are set up to use 2 factor authentification. If I delete the app before I remove 2factor on those sites or set it up new, I am looked out.
If I loose the key to interpret the text correctly I am ****ed
Where am I misinformed? elaborate
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You are misinformed because pretend this is a new phone you are setting up.
How would you go about that? You would use the same two factor authentication on the new phone. You can't say two factor authentication wouldn't work on new phone or nobody could ever get a new phone...
Plus, there are SMS Backup and restore apps. WhatsApp has cloud backup if you turn it on Many messaging apps like Hangouts sync across different devices.
If you're rooted, there's TWRP and Titanium Backup -- where you can restore data to ALL apps.
carlaron said:
Hi,
this update (V30 to pie, recieved today) just destroyed all of my home screen configurations (folders, arrangements, widgets, links to websites) -> really annoying.
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1) I use Nova launcher and periodically export configuration backups to Gmail or Google Drive. You can also store them on your device, like microSD card. At any point in time, on this phone or another, then you can download and restore those home screens/desktops. I have 5 screens with apps arranged by most use (home screen), spreading out then by categories.
2) A little too late now, but Google also makes backups of your home screen configuration and when you Factory Reset your phone or buy a new phone, and you first sign in, Google will ask if you wish to restore that most recent configuration remembered from your most recent device. However, by this point in time, Google has now backed up the "new" Pie configuration you do not want. This is why you should have factory reset at the very beginning.
So... No one mentioned LG backup here? I find it suprisingly good
Mrxyzl said:
So... No one mentioned LG backup here? I find it suprisingly good
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It really is!!
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