What exactly does backup do. - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

A few days ago i put on Siyah neweset 5.0.1 kernel on my S2 and overclocked but my performance hasn't increased much so i'm gonna put Ressurection Remix ROM now but the first step on the guide says to format my phone and i hate loseing my things, is there anyway to keep my stuff on the new ROM D: ? I'm not sure what to do QQ i don't wanna screw this up, also i'm gonna make a few backups, cuz 1 isn't enough.

Over clocking doesn't increase performance per se.
You can use titanium backup to backup and restore your current apps. Use SMS backup+ for your texts and call lists.
Images, vids, music etc are unaffected by formatting via CWM.
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If you want to switch to another ROM, I guess it's best to backup all your apps via Titanium Backup. As far as I remember, the list displays white apps, red ones and green ones. The red ones are system apps and you should backup them since they differ from ROM to ROM. The white ones are apps which you have installed on your phone (via Google Play...). The green entries are things like "Messages" "Phone call history" and stuff like that.. I guess you can backup them too.
You won't loose your contacts as long as they are stored on your googlemail-account. So no need to safe them.
Then just backup your current ROM via ClockworkMod (I guess one backup is enough :b - If you want to be 100% sure try to backup and right after it finished try to restore the backup. If it works (in 99,9% of all cases) you can just flash your new ROM - if it didn't work try to backup+restore again. As soon as you've got a working backup (I guess the first backup will be OK), flash the new ROM and restore the needed apps via Titanium Backup again. (Just download Titanium Backup right after flashing RR and you will be able to restore every single app again).
More and more ROM devs advise not to restore apps via Titanium Backup, but it always worked fine for me
Hope I helped you,
experience7

Smileyz0r said:
A few days ago i put on Siyah neweset 5.0.1 kernel on my S2 and overclocked but my performance hasn't increased much so i'm gonna put Ressurection Remix ROM now but the first step on the guide says to format my phone and i hate loseing my things, is there anyway to keep my stuff on the new ROM D: ? I'm not sure what to do QQ i don't wanna screw this up, also i'm gonna make a few backups, cuz 1 isn't enough.
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You dont need to format everything to install a Custom Rom. Just wipe data, cache and Dalvik cache(under advanced).
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boki9999 said:
You dont need to format everything to install a Custom Rom. Just wipe data, cache and Dalvik cache(under advanced).
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I made a backup but in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
It was first step : Factory reset, won't factory reset delete my backup?

Smileyz0r said:
I made a backup but in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854
It was first step : Factory reset, won't factory reset delete my backup?
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Wipe Data/Factory reset will not delete the backup u made since as its stored in ur internal sdcard ma8

What the hell kind of titke for a topic is "D:" ????
Please use some common sense and use proper descriptive titles, Not silly things lik this that dont tell people anything when browsing forum.

Sun90 said:
Wipe Data/Factory reset will not delete the backup u made since as its stored in ur internal sdcard ma8
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So... I make a backup, i backup apps, and i factory reset from phone settings right?

TheATHEiST said:
What the hell kind of titke for a topic is "D:" ????
Please use some common sense and use proper descriptive titles, Not silly things lik this that dont tell people anything when browsing forum.
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"D:" is the best description of the problem i could think of

Smileyz0r said:
So... I make a backup, i backup apps, and i factory reset from phone settings right?
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If ur on Stock Rom then, Yes, its that way

Sun90 said:
If ur on Stock Rom then, Yes, its that way
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I did all the steps and now i'm stuck at Reussrection remix boot loop
And i can't go into recovery, when i remove-put in battery it automaticaly start back up on this loopy thing
EDIT: My fault, i didn't untick don't restart.
I managed to get back and wipe everything and now it works perfectly
Sadly... i lost all my stuff ... ( i mean... it's not installed but i have the files, but they are useless )
But it was tottaly worth it becouse this is ORGASMICLY fast.
TOTTALY WORTH IT <333
CYA SOON MAYBE
<3 Smiley

Smileyz0r said:
"D:" is the best description of the problem i could think of
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Don't be ridiculous.
What about something simple like "How to backup data before installing new rom?"
In any case you should have searched google or XDA first as there is plenty of topics on how to flash roms without losing data or how to backup all your apps/appdata etc.

TheATHEiST said:
Don't be ridiculous.
What about something simple like "How to backup data before installing new rom?"
In any case you should have searched google or XDA first as there is plenty of topics on how to flash roms without losing data or how to backup all your apps/appdata etc.
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I can't find the button to change tittle, it must be hidden under 3 layers of bedrock.
Anyway, i've been useing this rom since yesterday, it's awesome .. mostly
Some minor disadvantages, some things like Clock crash, won't update some things but that's normal.
My stock benchmark was 6800, now 6200 D:
Probably becouse the rom uses more RAM than stock.. Overall 8.7/10 <3
I'll keep testin.
EDIT: OH YEA! what were those "modems" it asked me when i was installing it?

Smileyz0r said:
I can't find the button to change tittle, it must be hidden under 3 layers of bedrock.
Anyway, i've been useing this rom since yesterday, it's awesome .. mostly
Some minor disadvantages, some things like Clock crash, won't update some things but that's normal.
My stock benchmark was 6800, now 6200 D:
Probably becouse the rom uses more RAM than stock.. Overall 8.7/10 <3
I'll keep testin.
EDIT: OH YEA! what were those "modems" it asked me when i was installing it?
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Modem is software that controls and makes connection with mobile network possible.
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You edit your 1st post.You just go into the title area and change the text there.
Something like "I love theAtheist".
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Related

upgrading to latest build

Pretty simple question, i want to upgrade to the latest build by mik. Will this basically wipe everything that isnt on my SD card ? i.e. everything on my desktop, all my settings, all my apps etc.
thanks.
Yes, you will have to wipe everything...
If you want, you can backup your data with apps like "Titanium Backup" or something like those...
U will lost all ur settings,sms,contacts,apps..nd u will lost ur data in sd bcoz u hv to do partition for aps2sd..Its recommrnded to do backup of all ur apps,contacts,sms,nandroid before flashing
oh ok. so ill install apps2sd, move all my apps across, backup contacts and what i can with titanium , flash.
what is this google sync business with contacts ??
so i just flashed to the latest, and its booted back in, and everything is still on my desktop ? like nothing got erased.
i did a full batch titanium backup. did it automatically restore everthing ? even my desktop settings ?? im lost
thedawg said:
Pretty simple question, i want to upgrade to the latest build by mik. Will this basically wipe everything that isnt on my SD card ? i.e. everything on my desktop, all my settings, all my apps etc.
thanks.
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Haha so luckily you got me and my patience on your thread lol and you questions are simple yeah but not short to answer!
For your question, yes! flashing any rom will exactly wipe EVERYTHING on your phone.
BUT IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM OLDER VERSIONS OF MIK'S 2.3 ROM, it will NOT wipe anything except your google/facebook accounts information.
By the way, for the manual action of "wiping", it depends what android version you are at.
If you are using Froyo 2.2 NOW, yes wipe everything on the list of your custom recovery.
If you are using Gingerbread 2.3 NOW, then you dont have to wipe anything except [cache] and [dalvik cache]. <- You must wipe these two!
thedawg said:
oh ok. so ill install apps2sd, move all my apps across, backup contacts and what i can with titanium , flash.
what is this google sync business with contacts ??
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I dont get what you mean by "install apps2sd". But whatever you shouldn't do that before flashing a rom. If you mean the Non-froyo App2SD+ (What the hell is non-froyo a2sd?), you should flash it AFTER you have flashed the rom in order to let it activate in the new rom.
Yes. backup all the things with titanium is necessary.
For the google contacts syncing. It is a service provided by Google and it is for you to sync the contacts between your Gmail and your phone. So you can view all your contacts anywhere. You can sync your contacts to gmail and then after rom flashing, the contacts are gone. Simply login back to gmail with the newly flashed rom and then click auto-sync. All of your contacts will be back after a couple of minutes.
But remember one extra point, its sort of a new feature in gingerbread but BE SURE TO UNTICK THE OPTION OF "BACKUP MY DATA ETC TO MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT" after you login your gmail with android 2.3. Why? It actually doesn't backup your data (well for me, i couldnt see it anywhere) but DUPLICATES YOUR MESSAGES WITH NO REASON!
thedawg said:
so i just flashed to the latest, and its booted back in, and everything is still on my desktop ? like nothing got erased.
i did a full batch titanium backup. did it automatically restore everthing ? even my desktop settings ?? im lost
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IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM ANDROID 2.2 FROYO
NO. After you flash, every single thing will be GONE COMPLETELY. You will have to perform a titanium batch restore to get everything back in order.
IF YOU ARE UPGRADING FROM ANDROID 2.3 GINGERBREAD (older versions of mik's rom)
Then Yes everything is still on your "desktop" (I think you meant launcher) and ALL SETTINGS WILL REMAIN. However in some cases, home screen widgets will have problems and you will have to place them again. Information in widgets (such as your city for weather widgets, your to-do-list widgets) are NOT BE ABLE TO BACK UP USING TITANIUM OR ANY OTHER METHODS. So make sure you have written down what you have wrote in your widgets!
And finally if you have missed or made mistakes in any step, dont panic! You can always restore your phone back with KDZ UPDATER (Picture guide in this link)!
And when you are using mik's rom, and you would like to have a try on franco.Kernel which provides excellent performance, dont forget to discuss them in the thread The fantastic combination of mik_os' CM7 and franco.Kernel!!
Hope I was clear enough and if any parts of my post have helped you, dont forget to hit the thanks button at the bottom of my post
Good luck! Happy playing with mik's roms!
Thanks alot, makes it clearer.
I will definitely put francos kernel on, the phone still could do with some imporvement in performance.
next thing i need to learn about is the launcher. is it essentially just the UI ?
thedawg said:
Thanks alot, makes it clearer.
I will definitely put francos kernel on, the phone still could do with some imporvement in performance.
next thing i need to learn about is the launcher. is it essentially just the UI ?
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erm for the launcher its totally simple - ur phone can have multiple launchers, but you usually only use one. and they gives you the app drawer and some screens for you to place your shortcuts and widgets. how are they? what are their performances? differ on different launchers. they all can simple be found on the market, and after installation you will be able to choose the one you want to use, by clicking the home button.
ADW launcher and Launcher Pro being the most famous ones and you may try GO Launcher as some people are using and appreciating it too.
new users if i have given some help you know what to do and happy androiding.

updating "In Paris" ROM - TB restore User Apps & system Data? or just User?

updating "In Paris" ROM - TB restore User Apps & system Data? or just User?
Hi all.
Ready to update In Paris from V. 2 to V 4. This was my first root/rom so i got this newb question.
Once I have wiped and installed the new rom, using titanium do I restore both user apps AND system data? Obviously the user apps, but there's just a small hesitation about the system data tho I'm guessing it's both.
Also when doing back ups is it better to back them up seperately into different folders, or doesnt really matter.
Cant be too safe when you're half dumb.
thanks!
pootown said:
Hi all.
Ready to update In Paris from V. 2 to V 4. This was my first root/rom so i got this newb question.
Once I have wiped and installed the new rom, using titanium do I restore both user apps AND system data? Obviously the user apps, but there's just a small hesitation about the system data tho I'm guessing it's both.
Also when doing back ups is it better to back them up seperately into different folders, or doesnt really matter.
Cant be too safe when you're half dumb.
thanks!
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lol. don't discredit yourself bro. perfect question to ask. you don't want to restore any system data. just the apps with their data. restoring system data will cause a ton of issues. and if you're talking about the backups you've made in cwm, then you dont have to separate those. but what you can do is rename them to whatever you want to that you know which ones which.
awesome. I just run TB for user apps. Move to pc. Wipe re flash then restore user apps.
Or
I reread the guide u wrote and do whatever that says. Too bad I can't dload In Paris while in stupid China. Will have to wait til next week.
Thanks again.
Thanks
task650 said:
lol. don't discredit yourself bro. perfect question to ask. you don't want to restore any system data. just the apps with their data. restoring system data will cause a ton of issues. and if you're talking about the backups you've made in cwm, then you dont have to separate those. but what you can do is rename them to whatever you want to that you know which ones which.
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This was a lot of help, didn't even have to ask the question. Thanks so much.

[Q] Advice on a soft brick.

It's a random softbrick, no changes have been made for months, so I've not backed up for ages, I want to svae contacts and messages and app data.
Will odin wipe data, can it be repaired with CWM no wipe flash?
Long version.
I've been using ICS for 4 months.
I did a wipe and fresh install on the release of the official GB ICS.
I then used clockwork mod to changle toggles and clock, then triangle away.
Things were ok until a month ago when I hit the App to SD memory bug, which was fixed be removing apps back to internal.
Again been fine for about a month.
Then today, random lock on "Samsung Galaxy s II gt-9100" screen.
No changes have been made for ages, the only change was adding on{x} today.
Whats the best way to try and get this fixed? I want to save as much data as I can, I've not backed up for a few months, as I wasn't ,making any changes.
Should I just Just use odin and see what happens, or is there a better way, even if it is longer?
Can I put a no wipe flash on my SD and use CWM to try and repair? Is this a more complicated risk move? if so whats the risk.
I'd really like to keep as much as I can 'cos I've got the perfect setup for me (besides the boot lock...)
THanks folks.
mega_bite said:
It's a random softbrick, no changes have been made for months, so I've not backed up for ages, I want to svae contacts and messages and app data.
Will odin wipe data, can it be repaired with CWM no wipe flash?
THanks folks.
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just check the kink below hope it might help with ur soft brick issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457458
Cheers.
I've already got the files and odin ready to go.
I just don't want to wipe my data.
I was wondering if a cwm rom would be able to fix it. or Do i have to use odin
I don't want to loose data or current setup and apps
THanks
mega_bite said:
Cheers.
I've already got the files and odin ready to go.
I just don't want to wipe my data.
I was wondering if a cwm rom would be able to fix it. or Do i have to use odin
I don't want to loose data or current setup and apps
THanks
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I'm pretty sure odin is your only option
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Yeah, thanks for the help anyway.
I didn't know if using CWM to flash a different rom would work.
I was hoping a no wipe rom would fix the error was and keep my apps and data.
It didn't.
I used odin to flash a base > then CWM > then resurection.
I've lost loads of data :-(
But my phones sweet
lol, you win some and you loose some.
I really should know better, as a sys admin I bollock folks all the time for not doing backups. luckily I backed up messages recently, so should also have contacs there. Just all my save games, app data, is gone
THanks
mega_bite said:
Yeah, thanks for the help anyway.
I didn't know if using CWM to flash a different rom would work.
I was hoping a no wipe rom would fix the error was and keep my apps and data.
It didn't.
I used odin to flash a base > then CWM > then resurection.
I've lost loads of data :-(
But my phones sweet
lol, you win some and you loose some.
I really should know better, as a sys admin I bollock folks all the time for not doing backups. luckily I backed up messages recently, so should also have contacs there. Just all my save games, app data, is gone
THanks
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Yea that's why it's good practice to make frequent backups and store some on your computer
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Nandroid Backup Question

Hey guys,
I'm going to make a nandroid backup however i have a few questions before i do it.
1: if i make a backup does this also backup my layout of my homescreen and the structure?
2: will i be able to flash a custom rom and if i don't like it use the nandroid backup to go back to how it was previously.
sorry guys im a noob in android - moving from iPhone
thanks
InevitableDJ said:
Hey guys,
I'm going to make a nandroid backup however i have a few questions before i do it.
1: if i make a backup does this also backup my layout of my homescreen and the structure?
2: will i be able to flash a custom rom and if i don't like it use the nandroid backup to go back to how it was previously.
sorry guys im a noob in android - moving from iPhone
thanks
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It backs up everything, it will basically cryogenically freeze your version of Android as it is for later use. So yeah, if you don't like ROM x you restore ROM y from nandroid
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2. To remove root you need flash stock firmware (I think)
Harry GT-S5830 said:
It backs up everything, it will basically cryogenically freeze your version of Android as it is for later use. So yeah, if you don't like ROM x you restore ROM y from nandroid
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awesome so basically its a carbon copy on the time i backup it up?
InevitableDJ said:
Hey guys,
I'm going to make a nandroid backup however i have a few questions before i do it.
1: if i make a backup does this also backup my layout of my homescreen and the structure?
2: will i be able to flash a custom rom and if i don't like it use the nandroid backup to go back to how it was previously.
sorry guys im a noob in android - moving from iPhone
thanks
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1. nandroid backup is backup everything
2. yes you can, if don't want that custom rom, just restore the nandroid backup you make
A NANDroid backup does not include the EFS, however, and you will want to back up that up in case your IMEI ends up getting lost. (Grab kTool from the Play Store)
Also not included in a NANDroid backup is the modem and kernel. These don't require you to back them up yourselves, as you can find stock kernels on the Internet (and modified ones) as well as the modems, but it's worth noting that some unofficial ROMs do tend to flash these as a part of their install process
InevitableDJ said:
awesome so basically its a carbon copy on the time i backup it up?
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Yep
Harry GT-S5830 said:
Yep
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thanks all, did it and i thought id try with just wiping dalvik cache and partition cache to go to omega 11.1 however im getting a few apps that are not responding, i guess i can now try the restore
EDIT: The Restore went perfect just the way i left it... OMG why did i stick with iPhone... this is superb!
InevitableDJ said:
thanks all, did it and i thought id try with just wiping dalvik cache and partition cache to go to omega 11.1 however im getting a few apps that are not responding, i guess i can now try the restore
EDIT: The Restore went perfect just the way i left it... OMG why did i stick with iPhone... this is superb!
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Welcome to the club, I used to go iPhone but found android far superior
Harry GT-S5830 said:
Welcome to the club, I used to go iPhone but found android far superior
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Music to my ears :thumbup::thumbup:
I use Nandroid backup as a method to save all my folder and apps layout ,
flash a new rom just format cache and system .
That gives me my layout plus the new rom works 99% of the time if upgrading to similar roms even moving from LF2 to LG8 .
jje
Nandroid backups your system data cache and boot partition this means after restore you will get everything same as old times but you can't go back from aosp roms because they use mtd partition type but samsung roms use bml you have to flash stock rom from odin and then restore when you want to come back from aosp/cm based roms
ozcet said:
Nandroid backups your system data cache and boot partition this means after restore you will get everything same as old times but you can't go back from aosp roms because they use mtd partition type but samsung roms use bml you have to flash stock rom from odin and then restore when you want to come back from aosp/cm based roms
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that's not right, I been beta testing slim jb(aosp) and my ics nandroid work fine, and cm9 restored np, and stock Sammy
slaphead20 said:
that's not right, I been beta testing slim jb(aosp) and my ics nandroid work fine, and cm9 restored np, and stock Sammy
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I tried that but it didn't work for me probably my fault. I was a galaxy s (I9000) user and it was needed to flash every time stock odin rom before restoring to samsung roms and I guessed its the same on s3.
ozcet said:
I tried that but it didn't work for me probably my fault. I was a galaxy s (I9000) user and it was needed to flash every time stock odin rom before restoring to samsung roms and I guessed its the same on s3.
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same here, but seems to be different with the s3, but there might be some problem between different versions of cwm recovery, that might be the problem..if you backed up on touch say..then tried restoring from 5.c.x.x?

[Q] updating rooted samsung galaxy s3 to 4.3

ok so basically i want to find a way to get to 4.3 either rooted or unrooted, my problem is that i have pretty bad ocd and one of my major major problems with that disorder is my tech devices, i will most likely have an anxsiety attack or 2 if i have to set up my phone from scratch and i will spend hours making it look exactly the same. anyway, i want to know:
1:how to update rooted gs3 Gt-i9305t 4g/lte model without loosing data (if possible )
2: update to 4.3 and un root without loosing data (im sure thats impossible )
i would really appreciate the help as i cannot find anyone looking for the same help as me (kinda strange how no one cares about there data at all, but meh)
also on a side note, i have the problem with my s3 where any sd card i put into the machine will eventually kill itself and never work again as far as i know, it has killed 3 32gb sd cards now and its starting to piss me off to the point where i am no longer using an sd card at all. why does the phone do this and is there any way to fix it? either software wise or hard wear wise? thanks !!! :fingers-crossed:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
that just sucks.
rootSU said:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
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that honestly sucks so much, thanks for the info though.
hey another quick question, is there a way to so a full backup, like im talking FULL, like down to the point of where ur apps are placed and all there data, like apple devices have through itunes?? (restore from backup option) cus if so then i dont mind wiping at all, i just hate apple so i will never go back to one of there piece of **** devices again (i like features with my shiny brick) but yeah anything like that? or can kies do that?
i'm using temasek 4.3 preview 3 atm, you should check it out since developer is extremely helpful
and he updates regularly (which is important)
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM) and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
The one thing I ahve NOT found a solution for is replacing my widgets back on the screens they are on - I run 7 screens and it pisses me off a full recovery in something like Titanium doesn't restore my widgets. The only way it happens is a full nandroid restore but that nukes the new ROM I have just installed so that's not an option.
I run Purelook HD as my 1st ROM, GoogyMax kernel and SlimBean as my 2nd ROM. I can nuke either or both and be back to my set up (including widgets) in about 45 minutes.
Journyman16 said:
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
OP - Please read the "Read before rooting" thread in my signature for more info.
**** that
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
adex9 said:
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
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We all spend hours making it look exactly the same. It's annoying but essential.
rootSU said:
Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
Journyman16 said:
The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
rootSU said:
@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Yep, it could do.
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
moshepupkin said:
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Same here. I've been looking for the exact method to do this, but haven't had any luck so far.
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
moshepupkin said:
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
AriaOfSorrow said:
Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
JJEgan said:
Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
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Well, let's see... there's everyone I know that also has this phone. People online that say they have this phone. Web sites saying that this phone has officially received 4.3. The phone itself saying there is an update for the firmware. So, basically everyone/thing except the Kies program.
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
JJEgan said:
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
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I already told you who said there is an update for my phone. Unless my phone is disguised as some one of a kind phone, I'm supposed to be able to update to 4.3.

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