Related
Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
Wait so you got an upgrade but still kept your unlimited data?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
xXJay_RXx said:
Wait so you got an upgrade but still kept your unlimited data?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, he lost it. It says in his second line break.
i still have unlimited data after they gave my account the upgrade. I lose the unlimited data once I use the upgrade, or that what the rep led me to believe.
randpost said:
i still have unlimited data after they gave my account the upgrade. I lose the unlimited data once I use the upgrade, or that what the rep led me to believe.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since it was a family plan, why didn't you open a new line and do the upgrade that way? IMO, losing unlimited data is not worth it...$30/month = unlimitd or $30 / month = 2gb. I'd pretty much have to buy into their 10gb plan, which is way too much for our family/just me. If you use netflix, dropbox, etc... it just isn't worth it. You'll eat that data in no time.
kimdoocheol said:
Since it was a family plan, why didn't you open a new line and do the upgrade that way? IMO, losing unlimited data is not worth it...$30/month = unlimitd or $30 / month = 2gb. I'd pretty much have to buy into their 10gb plan, which is way too much for our family/just me. If you use netflix, dropbox, etc... it just isn't worth it. You'll eat that data in no time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I can open a new line on my family plan n keep my unlimited data?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
xXJay_RXx said:
So I can open a new line on my family plan n keep my unlimited data?
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Open new line and use it to get discounted Note 2. Activate Note 2 on that line. Then deactivate Note 2 and swap it to your existing line that has unlimited data. Then drop the new line down to a standard "dumbphone" package and keep a feature phone activated on it as a spare/emergency device. Basically you will be on the hook for keeping the new line active for 2 years at the cost of $10.00 per month + taxes and fees.
It is a roundabout way and in the long run you end up paying quite a bit. But for some people it is worth it to keep the unlimited data.
TheDroidLurker said:
Open new line and use it to get discounted Note 2. Activate Note 2 on that line. Then deactivate Note 2 and swap it to your existing line that has unlimited data. Then drop the new line down to a standard "dumbphone" package and keep a feature phone activated on it as a spare/emergency device. Basically you will be on the hook for keeping the new line active for 2 years at the cost of $10.00 per month + taxes and fees.
It is a roundabout way and in the long run you end up paying quite a bit. But for some people it is worth it to keep the unlimited data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried doing it online n it won't let me. I have 4 lines already so I guess that's why :/ but I thought this trick no longer worked
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Your best bet is to go into a store. I have done this twice now to get new phones. I have 3 active lines, 2 of which have unlimited data. The 4th line is my ghost line. In December I'll be upgrading one if the unlimited data lines to get the note 2. That line never uses more than 500mb of data anyways. After that I will have revolving upgrades every 6 months.... I'll just keep putting the new device on my primary line
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
justin94 said:
Your best bet is to go into a store. I have done this twice now to get new phones. I have 3 active lines, 2 of which have unlimited data. The 4th line is my ghost line. In December I'll be upgrading one if the unlimited data lines to get the note 2. That line never uses more than 500mb of data anyways. After that I will have revolving upgrades every 6 months.... I'll just keep putting the new device on my primary line
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I just go into a store n ask to add a new line n then try to talk them into keeping my unlimited data or what
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Yea. Just tell them to activate the new phone on your primary line. You will need to activate a dumb phone on it though. If u have an old one then use it
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
justin94 said:
Yea. Just tell them to activate the new phone on your primary line. You will need to activate a dumb phone on it though. If u have an old one then use it
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh okay thank you. I'll try that when I go into the store when its released. I'm not trying to lose my unlimited data. I have used 10GB n I'm 15 days into my cycle. No way can I go without unlimited data lol
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
What I am going to do is use my upgrade (even though it will nuke my unlimited data) and then swap lines with my wife. She rarely uses more than 1 GB. So I can put her on the 2GB plan and then swap my phone over to her line which still has unlimited. I would like to swap the numbers as well but from everything I have read, VZW won't do it. Number change? yes. Swap? no.
randpost said:
Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did u get them to get u an early upgrade? I've tried a couple times and they have told me no : ( my upgrade is also 5/2013
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
huggie87 said:
How did u get them to get u an early upgrade? I've tried a couple times and they have told me no : ( my upgrade is also 5/2013
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have to have a reason for an early upgrade especially one half a year away. I had returned 2 Galaxy Nexus for problems I was having in the past, and although I wasn't having problems with my current Galaxy Nexus, I used my satisfaction with that phone as leverage.
Have been a customer for 6 years and my bill is currently over 300.00 a month.
Maybe those facts help me? I don't know.
randpost said:
You have to have a reason for an early upgrade especially one half a year away. I had returned 2 Galaxy Nexus for problems I was having in the past, and although I wasn't having problems with my current Galaxy Nexus, I used my satisfaction with that phone as leverage.
Have been a customer for 6 years and my bill is currently over 300.00 a month.
Maybe those facts help me? I don't know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This gives me hope that I can call up Verizon sometime in December and get my upgrade moved up from the end of January
Edit: Gave Verizon a call. They were really nice, but I was told that just like the iPhone 5, I couldn't be upgraded early at the reduced amount for the Note 2. The lady I was talking to was really sweet though, and she said she was going to see if she could find out why the Note 2 has the same restrictions the iPhone 5 does.
Advice please?
randpost said:
Spent some time with VZ customer service today and finally got them to throw me an early upgrade to get the note 2. original update was 5/13. The only restriction they gave me on the upgrade was I couldn't use it to purchase any Apple products
I'm letting my All you can eat data go in lieu of family data. I'm not paying 1500.00 for my wifes and my note 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My update isn't due until May of next year as well. I originally had the Bionic, and then I needed an insurance replacement and they gave me a bad Razr, so then I was sent another Razr. This "new" phone constantly shuts off and freezes and has issues. I truly want the Note 2. How long did it take you to get them to agree to moving your upgrade? Could you give me some specifics? Was it over the phone or in the store? Your help is greatly appreciated! I too would be losing my unlimited, but at this point I don't care.
P.s. Congrats on getting the Note 2!
roy5000x2 said:
This gives me hope that I can call up Verizon sometime in December and get my upgrade moved up from the end of January
Edit: Gave Verizon a call. They were really nice, but I was told that just like the iPhone 5, I couldn't be upgraded early at the reduced amount for the Note 2. The lady I was talking to was really sweet though, and she said she was going to see if she could find out why the Note 2 has the same restrictions the iPhone 5 does.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure why she said you couldn't early upgrade to the note 2. Not sure what your full circumstances are, try to get a level two CSR or higher as soon as possible without sounding ungrateful.
jessiemo27 said:
My update isn't due until May of next year as well. I originally had the Bionic, and then I needed an insurance replacement and they gave me a bad Razr, so then I was sent another Razr. This "new" phone constantly shuts off and freezes and has issues. I truly want the Note 2. How long did it take you to get them to agree to moving your upgrade? Could you give me some specifics? Was it over the phone or in the store? Your help is greatly appreciated! I too would be losing my unlimited, but at this point I don't care.
P.s. Congrats on getting the Note 2!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was my first call and about 1 hour of total time before I got my upgrade. I called up and voiced my concerns with data connectivity and stated I wanted an early upgrade and went into the fact that I'm a long time customer with six years of on time payments and a fairly hefty monthly bill. She said she had to talk to someone else and came back and rejected my early upgrade. I asked if I could speak to someone else who could address my concerns without having to ask someone else. After a few minutes on hold, I was directed to someone who had a better grasp at customer service, not that the first lady was bad, but this guy was better. He basically heard me out and went ahead and granted my request. He went into some finer detail about not being able to early upgrade to any apple products, but that was the only restriction to his early upgrade powers.
My whole reason for calling was to get a Note 2, I just used the Galaxy Nexus as my entry point into the house of early upgrades.
might do this with my kids lines that come up in feb. they can live on 2gb a month, won't kill them.
My wife (iphone) and I (Nexus) both have unlimited on Verizon. She is eligble for an upgrade. I planned on upgrading her line to the note2 and going home and swapping them around to give me the Note2 and reactiving her iPhone on her account..thus techincally giving me the phone I want while keeping my unlmited...
i have read elsewhere that it needs to be on the upgraded line untouch for 6 months....?
Will this not work. . . . .. ?
Seems odd....can't find any documentation around that. . .
kmkings311 said:
My wife (iphone) and I (Nexus) both have unlimited on Verizon. She is eligble for an upgrade. I planned on upgrading her line to the note2 and going home and swapping them around to give me the Note2 and reactiving her iPhone on her account..thus techincally giving me the phone I want while keeping my unlmited...
i have read elsewhere that it needs to be on the upgraded line untouch for 6 months....?
Will this not work. . . . .. ?
Seems odd....can't find any documentation around that. . .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I replied at your other post man.
kimdoocheol said:
I replied at your other post man.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry..figured I'd start a new one b/c it was a little different top..and seen a number of people asking this question...
You're reply from other post:
This is wrong info bro. Do exactly what you said, get a new sim, and you can have the phone activated in less than an hr. It may cost you $5, but it'll work. I've heard sometimes VZW won't let you switch an unactivated upgrade to a new line because the sim is attached to the #, so I activated my phone on one of my other lines that I used the upgrade on, got a new sim and was good to go.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thing that is funny is that I was told and.."oh, they can charge you the full retail price".
you can do it after 24hrs, That's how I got my Note 2, just swapped with the wife.
Only if you buy the phone from somewhere other then a corporate store. You HAVE to keep the keep the phone on the urgraded line for 181 days. So just stay away from best buy, wally world, etc. And it will be fine.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
I've been doing it in the store. The reps handled everything. They actually have a name for. No penalties and shouldn't cost you anything
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda app-developers app
cubsf4n said:
Only if you buy the phone from somewhere other then a corporate store. You HAVE to keep the keep the phone on the urgraded line for 181 days. So just stay away from best buy, wally world, etc. And it will be fine.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was actually told that from a non-corporate store (http://cellular-only.com)
I asked if it was a Verizon 'rule' or theirs and he said Verizon...
So, do the secondary retailers have their own user agreements. . .. . ?
Yes. Same rules as online mobile sellers. Look at the terms on wire fly.com
Sent from my Super Famicom
place like wirefly or amazon wireless will have such rule (including walmart / bestbuy etc).
but if you directly buy from verizon, you can swap it even immediately after.
which was what I did for some lines. no penalty and unlimited plan stays.
jiwengang said:
place like wirefly or amazon wireless will have such rule (including walmart / bestbuy etc).
but if you directly buy from verizon, you can swap it even immediately after.
which was what I did for some lines. no penalty and unlimited plan stays.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Right. I think "Premium Retailers" are the same as Walmart/Amazon/WireFly. I have read elsewhere that Best Buy doesn't have the 181 Day thing. Just throwing that out there...
What a Crap-shoot! :/
Its all in the fine print
Sent from my Super Famicom
I did exactly what you want to do.
I used an upgrade on my daughter's line (she has a feature phone) and put the Note 2 on it.
I've done this whole thing before with other phones/numbers on my account and it's never been an issue. The guys said sure, we can use your daughter's upgrade and put the phone on your acct... so he started doing it.
I said wait a minute.. just to verify, you are NOT messing with my data plan right? He said, of course you'll lose unlimited.
UNACCEPTABLE!
He said.. the only way to do it is to put the Note 2 on her line.. and walk out of the store with it.. what you do after that is your business. In other words, they would not switch the SIM for me.
So, I let them activate her line with the Note 2.. left the store and swapped the SIM as I took my 2nd or 3rd step out of the store. lol No 60 mos, or 24 hours.
I was lazy and didn't re-activate my daughter's phone for a day or 2, so she had my Nexus. I then went online and switched her line back to her feature phone.
SO, yeah, it worked just fine. I now have an AMAZING phone and kept my unlimited data!
What happens if this is your pirst phone with a sim? Like I have a DROID x2 and the upgrade line has a flip phone so I can't just swap the sim.
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
I think it depends on where you go. When I used my wife's upgrade the guy at the store did the upgrade and swap right then and there.
weldawadyathink said:
What happens if this is your pirst phone with a sim? Like I have a DROID x2 and the upgrade line has a flip phone so I can't just swap the sim.
Sent from my MB870 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it was my first phone w/ a 4g sim. like i said, get the phone... activate it... and buy a new sim unless you want to wait 24 hrs. I didn't have any luck with VZW helping me with this, so i just bought another sim and activated it on that line. they told me the line i used to upgrade HAS to activate the phone first. so i activated/sim was locked in with that # for 24 hrs. i said can i just buy a new sim? they said sure, bought a new sim and set it up there.
kimdoocheol said:
it was my first phone w/ a 4g sim. like i said, get the phone... activate it... and buy a new sim unless you want to wait 24 hrs. I didn't have any luck with VZW helping me with this, so i just bought another sim and activated it on that line. they told me the line i used to upgrade HAS to activate the phone first. so i activated/sim was locked in with that # for 24 hrs. i said can i just buy a new sim? they said sure, bought a new sim and set it up there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So whats the significance of this 24 hours then?
Is it possible to wait out the 24 hours and use the same SIM card to swap numbers?
Also, why do you keep discussing buying SIM cards? They're 100% free. You can walk into a store and get one, and a much easier way imho is to get one online. Just do everything yourself.
But please explain to me the above topics as I am doing EXACTLY what you did pretty much. I added 2 lines to my account, both have tiered 2 GB data plans, me and my wife have unlimited on our primary lines, we bought the Note 2's on the new lines and they arrive tomorrow.
My plan is to activate them on my primary lines with unlimited data and place 2 dummy phones on the new lines so I can remove the data plans.
Hows this process going to go then? Can I just activate the Note 2's using the provided SIM's for my primary lines? Or do I HAVE to activate them on the new lines first?
DaRkL3AD3R said:
So whats the significance of this 24 hours then?
Is it possible to wait out the 24 hours and use the same SIM card to swap numbers?
Also, why do you keep discussing buying SIM cards? They're 100% free. You can walk into a store and get one, and a much easier way imho is to get one online. Just do everything yourself.
But please explain to me the above topics as I am doing EXACTLY what you did pretty much. I added 2 lines to my account, both have tiered 2 GB data plans, me and my wife have unlimited on our primary lines, we bought the Note 2's on the new lines and they arrive tomorrow.
My plan is to activate them on my primary lines with unlimited data and place 2 dummy phones on the new lines so I can remove the data plans.
Hows this process going to go then? Can I just activate the Note 2's using the provided SIM's for my primary lines? Or do I HAVE to activate them on the new lines first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wanted 24hrs just to be on the safe side so the system could update before I switched the phone to my number.
2swizzle said:
I wanted 24hrs just to be on the safe side so the system could update before I switched the phone to my number.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you're saying you bought a Note 2 on a different line than your own, activated it on the other line, waited 24 hours and while using the same SIM all along you were able to activate that SIM for your number, just fine?
cubsf4n said:
Only if you buy the phone from somewhere other then a corporate store. You HAVE to keep the keep the phone on the urgraded line for 181 days. So just stay away from best buy, wally world, etc. And it will be fine.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really, bought my rezound on an added line, activated it on new line, then swapped Sims between the phones. Got rezound for penny on Amazon. Verizon only contracts third party if line is cancelled because they lose commission.
DaRkL3AD3R said:
So you're saying you bought a Note 2 on a different line than your own, activated it on the other line, waited 24 hours and while using the same SIM all along you were able to activate that SIM for your number, just fine?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sims are tied to phone numbers. Activate it on new line, then go to store and st you want to try it on your other line and need a SIM for it. They can swap them. Did this between iPhone and thunderbolt for the wife
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
DaRkL3AD3R said:
So whats the significance of this 24 hours then?
Is it possible to wait out the 24 hours and use the same SIM card to swap numbers?
Also, why do you keep discussing buying SIM cards? They're 100% free. You can walk into a store and get one, and a much easier way imho is to get one online. Just do everything yourself.
But please explain to me the above topics as I am doing EXACTLY what you did pretty much. I added 2 lines to my account, both have tiered 2 GB data plans, me and my wife have unlimited on our primary lines, we bought the Note 2's on the new lines and they arrive tomorrow.
My plan is to activate them on my primary lines with unlimited data and place 2 dummy phones on the new lines so I can remove the data plans.
Hows this process going to go then? Can I just activate the Note 2's using the provided SIM's for my primary lines? Or do I HAVE to activate them on the new lines first?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you only have one sim they aren't able to switch the phone # attached to the sim instantly. it takes some time to be able to do it. the fix for this is go buy an sim card. obviously if you have one attached to your other phone already, do not have to worry about buying a new sim.
pretty much do this, turn them on, let them activate ( i tried to let vzw switch the imei # to my line before activating, and they said the phone HAS to be activated on the other line first ), then went to the store and bought a new sim/switched out the sim cards and i was able to use my phone.
Hi guys so just like most of you in here, I'm waiting on the galaxy s4 for Verizon. I am currently eligible for an upgrade, but I have a question regarding a a possible loophole for keeping my unlimited data. I share the account with my father along with 3 other lines. If I were to transfer the upgrade to another one of the lines and "upgrade" that line and then deactivate/reactivate on my line, would I be able to keep my unlimited data? And how would I go about doing this online with the preorder? Thanks for your time!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
There is a thread on here about keeping unlimited data. Do a search and you should find it.
You will lose the unlimited data on the line that's ready to upgrade, if you don't transfer it. If you decide to transfer the upgrade from the line that has the unlimited data, you'll be safe & won't lose it. I hope this helps.
P1NK13P13 said:
You will lose the unlimited data on the line that's ready to upgrade, if you don't transfer it. If you decide to transfer the upgrade from the line that has the unlimited data, you'll be safe & won't lose it. I hope this helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do what I did. I just bit the bullet and went to shared data but sold my unlimited data plans first.
I sold my wifes and mine for $750 combined. It will take years for me to make up that difference as I WFH three days a week so I am around wifi pretty much 5 out of 7 days.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I am going to try to just upgrade one of the other lines that's on a basic connection and then just activate the phone on my line when I get it. When I go to preorder online, it asks if I will be purchasing a SIM card and if not it asks for the SIM ID that I will be using. Should I purchase another SIM card or just give them mine? Im not sure of the process so I'm iffy about giving them my SIM ID because I'm not sure what that will do. any help is much appreciated.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
markmm24 said:
Thanks for the feedback guys. I am going to try to just upgrade one of the other lines that's on a basic connection and then just activate the phone on my line when I get it. When I go to preorder online, it asks if I will be purchasing a SIM card and if not it asks for the SIM ID that I will be using. Should I purchase another SIM card or just give them mine? Im not sure of the process so I'm iffy about giving them my SIM ID because I'm not sure what that will do. any help is much appreciated.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, if the S4 is unlocked & your old SIM card is a micro SIM, you'll be fine using that. You might have some issues using your old SIM if the Verizon S4 isn't the unlocked version...
P1NK13P13 said:
Well, if the S4 is unlocked & your old SIM card is a micro SIM, you'll be fine using that. You might have some issues using your old SIM if the Verizon S4 isn't the unlocked version...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We're talking about Verizon here not the international version.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Parafly said:
Do what I did. I just bit the bullet and went to shared data but sold my unlimited data plans first.
I sold my wifes and mine for $750 combined. It will take years for me to make up that difference as I WFH three days a week so I am around wifi pretty much 5 out of 7 days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you "sell" these plans? I have two unlimited lines and one 4GB/$30 line that I would like to sell off, as we will likely not buy the phones at full price.
If you have an upgrade available on another line you can use that, but you need to first activate it onthe line you bought it for, then transfer it to the unlimited line.
Another prospective option ive considered and decided against is starting a new line, paying $199.99 plus $30 activation, and then immediately terminating for $350. You get it for $70 plus tax cheaper than paying full retail.
That $199 ends up being just over $300 when you finally click submit. $50 MIR makes it $249.99 to start.
Sent from my Thunderbolt using one opposable thumb.
I've had success in transfering the upgrade to the basic line on my account that did not have data. Once you get the phone, reactivate the basic phone on the basic line. Then activate the new phone on your original upgrade line with unlimited data.
OT: I ended up ditching unlimited. The extra $$/mon savings was worth more than keeping it. I'm on wifi for about 90% of my data anyway. My employer-provided (yes, I keep separation btwn work/personal) phone still has unlimited and I can tether to it if I need to.
Hey guys; new here, awaiting the Verizon GS4
I had luck when the iPhone 5 came out keeping my unlimited Data. We have 5 lines with two still on unlimited, 3 on the 2gb. With 5 we almost always have at least one available for an upgrade. I was on a Galaxy Nexus with unlimited and I upgraded another line that had a 2gb plan. When the phone arrived I simply did the switch online with the new imei and the nano sim on my unlimited line replacing my Nexus. Everything went smooth.
Since then I purchased a nano sim adapter and have often switched back and forth between the iPhone and the Nexus; I'm Nerdy that way. No problem switching the sim between phones. I run whichever phone I want depending on my mood. My nexus is fully rooted and running the Sourcery Custome ROM and the latest Franco Kernal.
What I did was this: My wifes ona share everything plan while I still have unlimited. We added a line to HER share everything plan, got the S4 @200$... And I will just swap devices on VZW website from the bionic I use now. My mother in law works for VZW said I should be able to just put my unlimited SIM in the S4, and it will work right away...However, may need to activate it on the line line, deactivate it, put on mine.... (We have tablets for our kids just incase they require a device on that new line, we will simply give one of those access)
Good luck...
rednoved said:
I've had success in transfering the upgrade to the basic line on my account that did not have data. Once you get the phone, reactivate the basic phone on the basic line. Then activate the new phone on your original upgrade line with unlimited data.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what happens to the basic line after deactivating it ( since u have to put it on a data plan for it to have smartphone...) do u have to call and cancle the data or will that happen automatically after deactivating smartphone and putting old "dumb" phone back on it? will this result in a fee?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can help...
Tfast500 said:
what happens to the basic line after deactivating it ( since u have to put it on a data plan for it to have smartphone...) do u have to call and cancle the data or will that happen automatically after deactivating smartphone and putting old "dumb" phone back on it? will this result in a fee?
Thanks in advanced to anyone who can help...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Automatically removes the data package
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
So nowadays with the release of the s5, M8 and the pending LG G3, everybody wants to upgrade their phone, but nobody wants to lose unlimited data. very understandable and there is a method that works perfectly!
Yes we all know that you can buy a phone at full retail price, but who the hell wants to do that? the following instuctions is legal and should work without question.
First and foremost, if you are on the share everything plan you can exit this post because you are already screwed. furthermore if at any point in time you change your plan to the share everything plan all of your unlimited data lines will be gone forever. So don't do it.
Before we start there are a couple prerequisites you need to know.
1) You must still have an unlimited data line that you want to keep.
2) You MUST have a tiered data line on the same account. It does not matter if its a 3g phone or 4g phone. As long as it does not have unlimited data. Yes, you can add an additional line to your account to make this work if all lines are unlimited. However, you will have to pay the activation cost and $30 a month for the next two years or as long as you want to keep the additional line for this purpose. This trick obviously works better if you have a tiered data line cause then your bill will not increase and you will get the same results.
So, without further ado, here it is:
The only time you lose unlimited data is when you either A, switch to the share everything plan or b, upgrade the LINE that has unlimited data. It does not matter where the upgrade comes from, only what line is upgraded. I will provide an example at the end of the post.
1) go to the Verizon store and upgrade you're non unlimited data line to the phone you wish to purchase. Even if that particular line does not have an upgrade you can use an upgrade from any other line even if they have unlimited data. Just make sure that the phone that is upgrade is not the unlimited data line. so now you have used an upgrade from any line on your account to purchase your discounted phone. The phone that you have just bought should be on the line that does not have unlimited data.
2) after you have done that and paid for the phone you simply ask the representative to do a device only change. you put the just purchased phone on whatever number you want it to be on and put the original phone from the non unlimited data line back on the original line. Depending on the store you may have to buy an additional SIM card but you now have a brand new upgraded and discounted phone on your unlimited line and your non unlimited line is exactly as it was when you walked in the store. And that is well worth the price of a SIM card. So essentially, you have just upgraded your unlimited data line to a new phone without losing your data plan or costing you any extra money(minus if u had to buy a sim card).
If you are not familiar with Verizon plans for how this works it may seem complicated. I have provided an example below to make things easier. Feel free to PM me if you need any extra help.
I have spent a decent amount of time writting this guide and A LOT more time responding to posts and PM's. As of 11/19/2013 this thread has been viewed over 21,000 times and only 11 people have taken the time to press the "Thanks" button. Going forward, if you can't take 3 seconds out of your day to kindly rate the thread and/or hit the thanks button , then please don't expect me to answer a 3 paragraph question about your upgrade. This is a reasonable request in my opion. Thanks.
Example
Plan: 2phones 1 w/unlimited (we will call it the gs3)
1 w/2gb data plan( we will call it the Note2)
Availible upgrades: gs3 has an upgrade, note2 does not
1) do an alternate upgrade which means you're using your gs3 lines upgrade to upgrade the note 2 line to whatever phone you want, we will say the GS4.
2) after you do your alternate upgrade you should now have A GS 3 with unlimited data and a GS 4 with a 2 gig data plan.
3) ask the representative 2 then do a device only change and move the GS 4 to the line with the gs3 and unlimited data. put the gs3 sim card in the GS 4 and that line is good to go.
4) now, ask the representative to put the note 2 back on its original line, the one with the two gig data plan. put the original sim card from the note 2 back in the note 2. your SIM card that came with the GS 4 upgrade is now extra. you won't be able to use it for a day or so but you can hang on to it for future use.
5) you should now have a GS 4 with unlimited data and a note 2 with 2 gig data.
This is a very simple procedure unless you get a complete idiot at the store you should have no problem doing so. to the best of my knowledge you can upgrade as many phones using this method on the same account as you want. AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT UPGRADE AN UNLIMITED LINE DIRECTLY YOU WILL BE FINE. My only suggestion is, don't abuse it. don't try to upgrade 3 phones the same day using this method. As I said before, it's not illegal but I'm pretty sure verizon would not be happy with people abusing this loophole so space your upgrades apart a little bit.
I have upgraded to phones on my plan in the last 9 months doing this very message and have had no problems at all. I hope this post helps some people out! The only thing that sucks worse than not upgrading your phone is losing your data or paying $690 for a retail price device. HAPPY UPGRADING!!
Please note, as of August 24, 2014, Verizon changed their policy. Any line upgraded to a smart phone must keep the data package for the 2 year length of the contract. There for, performing the switch with a basic line means it becomes a data line for 2 years.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks" are always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
tl;dr = upgrade at one store, device only change at another
dtrichard said:
I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
tl;dr = upgrade at one store, device only change at another
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anyone get commission when you order online? I don't want to screw the rep in the store, they're just trying to make a living like the rest of us, they don't set VZW's BS policies. I was thinking order it online, activate the new phone over the phone. Then call back and put the old phone back on the data capped line. Someday, when I get a chance I'll pop into a corporate store and get a new sim on my unlimited line and activate the S4 on that one.
I never deal with corprate stores due to the fact rhat they could not care less about an individual. They have so much traffic they are not imterested in goimg the extra mile. I used to work for a retailer and have done this method at least 10 times, 12 if you include my stuff and also watched countless other reps do rhe same. Nobody ever incured a charge back. I guess you could go to a different store just to be safe but shouldn't be necessary. But I would never choose a corprate store. Tons of bad experiences.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks" are always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Erievon said:
Anyone get commission when you order online? I don't want to screw the rep in the store, they're just trying to make a living like the rest of us, they don't set VZW's BS policies. I was thinking order it online, activate the new phone over the phone. Then call back and put the old phone back on the data capped line. Someday, when I get a chance I'll pop into a corporate store and get a new sim on my unlimited line and activate the S4 on that one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From Verizon's website, I don't believe so. Some retailers allow you to ship a phone to one of their stores, and then whichever rep finishes the process for you gets the commission.
So yeah, it's neutral to buy online. No reps will gain anything or lose anything.
dtrichard said:
I would highly advise doing the device only change with another rep or even at another store. If a device is switched to a different line within 6 months of purchase, it can result in a chargeback for the rep (lose the commission they made off your purchase). I don't know if it differs between corporate and retailers, but I wouldn't do it if somebody asked.
tl;dr = upgrade at one store, device only change at another
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you corprate or retailer? Cause I dont know where your getting this chargeback thing. Once the phone is sold its sold. How are they going to hold the representative accountable for a phone that switch lines. even if that's true all you have to do is take the SIM card from your old phone and put it in the new phone and it will work. it doesn't even technically need to be switched in system. especially if both phones are 4G once you switch SIM cards they will be updated automatically in system. I highly doubt that anybody will get charged back for something the customer did. Not to mention, if you are correct, how would going to a different store or a different reps make any difference? according to you there still going to chargeback the person you sold the phone right? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying I'm 99.5 percent sure I'm right. Besides the fact, I'd rather screw a rep out of 5 dollars worth of commission then lose my unlimited data or not upgrade my phone.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks" are always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Ask jayochs.. I think he works for a retailer or used to.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
I did this at a Verizon store at a bjs wholesale no problems he knew what he was doing and thanked me for the commission. I specifically travelled to him knowing he was aware how to do it.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
No commission is lost when you do this. I have a couple friends who work at Verizon retail stores and that's how they do it for people that ask to keep their unlimited data.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
This is exactly what I did. Except the Verizon retailer knew about so I didnt have to BS or anything. They got the commission and I got my new GS4.
I went to a Best Buy store, they do everything for you, they don't even charge for the SIM Card, they swap phone and all for you in the spot, I also did the adding a line to my plan so I can get the Galaxy Nexus when it came out, but it's like $17ish a month because of taxes and some fees, At the end of the 2 years you save around $100 bucks, compered to buying the phone full price, but then you'll have another line that you can use the upgrade if you need to.
juanzho11 said:
I went to a Best Buy store, they do everything for you, they don't even charge for the SIM Card,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was told that all verizon stores are supposed to give out sim cards for free, even replacements. the csr told me that if anyone charges for them that i'm supposed to report them.
madsquabbles said:
i was told that all verizon stores are supposed to give out sim cards for free, even replacements. the csr told me that if anyone charges for them that i'm supposed to report them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is true for corporate stores. Retailers are different because Verizon charges them for the SIM cards that they have.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Shaftamle said:
I never deal with corprate stores due to the fact rhat they could not care less about an individual. They have so much traffic they are not imterested in goimg the extra mile. I used to work for a retailer and have done this method at least 10 times, 12 if you include my stuff and also watched countless other reps do rhe same. Nobody ever incured a charge back. I guess you could go to a different store just to be safe but shouldn't be necessary. But I would never choose a corprate store. Tons of bad experiences.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks" are always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah the person at a cooperate store wouldn't do that method for me so I said F U I'm going to Sprint then and never looked back especially because there lte isn't as saturated here in LA.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium
costco
I thought i was doomed as well.
fortunately i bought mine through costco, they will also switch around the accounts for you to activate at $199 for galaxy s4 instead of the full retail price of $699 or whatever it is these days.
My advice, go to costco
An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
busta6975 said:
An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's how I got my S4.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using xda premium
Just upgraded to an s4 with a dumb phone line. Going to get it and switch it to my unlimited data line, then remove the data and put the dumb phone back on the other line. Can't wait to get it on Wednesday!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
busta6975 said:
An easier way is to do it online cause they give u the option to move the upgrade to any line u want. I have 4 lines. 2 of them have the note 2 on them with the unlimited data plan. The other 2 lines have 2 lg chocolates on them to avoid having to get a data plan on them lines. So if I have an upgrade on one of the lines that have unlimited data on them I just log in and put the upgrade on one of the other 2 lines that dont have unlimited and order and wait for it to come.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They do that in the store as well. Its call an alternate upgrade. The purpose of my post is to explain in easy to understand teminology , how to use the alternate upgrade switch to your advantage. Whether you do it online, at a store or with Santa Claus makes no difference to me. I just don't want people to give up their plan if there is another way.
Sent from a Shaftamle Galaxy S4
"Thanks Button" is always appreciated!
http://mycolorscreen.com/Shaftamle/
I have an unlimited plan on a 3g phone with an upgrade available, and a dumb phone not eligible for upgrade. I tried this alternate upgrade. method at the vzw store and got to the checkout point, and was told that using the upgrade from the unlimited data line on *any* line will lose unlimited data. I went to a different store and asked there as well, and they said the same thing. I guess I have to wait until the dumb phone is eligible for an upgrade...
Hello all, just a quick question for those who have done this, or are thinking about doing this.
[If this is in the wrong forum, please let me know!]
So I have 5 lines on Verizon and 2 of them are due for an upgrade. I want to:
1. Use the upgrades and get 2 new iPhone 5S handsets (extends contracts for those 2 lines for 2 more years)
2. Activate and deactivate them
3. Reactivate the 2 old phones
4. Sell the brand new iPhones on ebay/craiglist (so I'd be paying around $200/phone and selling for around $550/phone
5. Go to T-Mo and have them pay the ETFs for all lines (thus canceling the contracts with Verizon
5. Use the cash from the iPhone sales to purchase 2 Nexus 5 handsets instead (and therefore keeping a little money for myself
6.???
7. Profit!!
Is this possible? Has anyone done this?
I know that it is possible to sell upgrades; people do it all the time. They get subsidized phones for cheap and deactivate them so they can reactivate their old lines for another 2 years, and they sell the brand new phones for their market value. Because as far as I can tell, Verizon doesn't give a crap as long as they have you tied in for another 2 years (which I will be bypassing by switching to T-Mobile).
Yes, the 2 lines that are due for an upgrade are old dumbphones that are around 3 years old. I asked a T-Mobile rep and she told me that those phones are eligible to be traded in so long as they are in contract (she looked them up in the system).
Thanks in advance!
HashtagNoFilter said:
Hello all, just a quick question for those who have done this, or are thinking about doing this.
[If this is in the wrong forum, please let me know!]
So I have 5 lines on Verizon and 2 of them are due for an upgrade. I want to:
1. Use the upgrades and get 2 new iPhone 5S handsets (extends contracts for those 2 lines for 2 more years)
2. Activate and deactivate them
3. Reactivate the 2 old phones
4. Sell the brand new iPhones on ebay/craiglist (so I'd be paying around $200/phone and selling for around $550/phone
5. Go to T-Mo and have them pay the ETFs for all lines (thus canceling the contracts with Verizon
5. Use the cash from the iPhone sales to purchase 2 Nexus 5 handsets instead (and therefore keeping a little money for myself
6.???
7. Profit!!
Is this possible? Has anyone done this?
I know that it is possible to sell upgrades; people do it all the time. They get subsidized phones for cheap and deactivate them so they can reactivate their old lines for another 2 years, and they sell the brand new phones for their market value. Because as far as I can tell, Verizon doesn't give a crap as long as they have you tied in for another 2 years (which I will be bypassing by switching to T-Mobile).
Yes, the 2 lines that are due for an upgrade are old dumbphones that are around 3 years old. I asked a T-Mobile rep and she told me that those phones are eligible to be traded in so long as they are in contract (she looked them up in the system).
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
seems like it should work, but also seems like a nightmare haha good luck
HashtagNoFilter said:
Hello all, just a quick question for those who have done this, or are thinking about doing this.
[If this is in the wrong forum, please let me know!]
So I have 5 lines on Verizon and 2 of them are due for an upgrade. I want to:
1. Use the upgrades and get 2 new iPhone 5S handsets (extends contracts for those 2 lines for 2 more years)
2. Activate and deactivate them
3. Reactivate the 2 old phones
4. Sell the brand new iPhones on ebay/craiglist (so I'd be paying around $200/phone and selling for around $550/phone
5. Go to T-Mo and have them pay the ETFs for all lines (thus canceling the contracts with Verizon
5. Use the cash from the iPhone sales to purchase 2 Nexus 5 handsets instead (and therefore keeping a little money for myself
6.???
7. Profit!!
Is this possible? Has anyone done this?
I know that it is possible to sell upgrades; people do it all the time. They get subsidized phones for cheap and deactivate them so they can reactivate their old lines for another 2 years, and they sell the brand new phones for their market value. Because as far as I can tell, Verizon doesn't give a crap as long as they have you tied in for another 2 years (which I will be bypassing by switching to T-Mobile).
Yes, the 2 lines that are due for an upgrade are old dumbphones that are around 3 years old. I asked a T-Mobile rep and she told me that those phones are eligible to be traded in so long as they are in contract (she looked them up in the system).
Thanks in advance!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
YOU SIR ARE BRILLIANT!!
Keep us posted with how this works!
Just be careful, I heard that if you cancel your contract before it's up they will ask for the phone back, I could be completely wrong but I wouldn't want you getting screwed when verizon asks for $1000 worth of phones back.
part of the TMobile etf thing is you buy your TMo phones thru TMo
OneArm said:
part of the TMobile etf thing is you buy your TMo phones thru TMo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. As stated in the OP, I would be trading in those 2 dumbphones. The T-Mo lady told me that those specific models are perfectly eligible to be traded in (they are in the T-Mo database). However, they would give me $0 credit for trading in the dumbphones and getting a new phone from T-Mobile. That wouldn't really matter since I would be using the money from the sale to put a down payment!
Triscuit said:
Just be careful, I heard that if you cancel your contract before it's up they will ask for the phone back, I could be completely wrong but I wouldn't want you getting screwed when verizon asks for $1000 worth of phones back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the thing---what's to stop me from telling them a lie they can't prove is wrong? I can totally just tell them "So yeah, I totally loved this iPhone. Too bad it fell into the snow yesterday and completely died, it sucks. Welp, guess I just have to reactivate my old phones I use to have a couple days ago!"
I mean what if my phone really did fall into some snow/water and died...
HashtagNoFilter said:
Yep. As stated in the OP, I would be trading in those 2 dumbphones. The T-Mo lady told me that those specific models are perfectly eligible to be traded in (they are in the T-Mo database). However, they would give me $0 credit for trading in the dumbphones and getting a new phone from T-Mobile. That wouldn't really matter since I would be using the money from the sale to put a down payment!
That's the thing---what's to stop me from telling them a lie they can't prove is wrong? I can totally just tell them "So yeah, I totally loved this iPhone. Too bad it fell into the snow yesterday and completely died, it sucks. Welp, guess I just have to reactivate my old phones I use to have a couple days ago!"
I mean what if my phone really did fall into some snow/water and died...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could they then blacklist the phones?
riker147 said:
Could they then blacklist the phones?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean I'm not sure it really matters. I can activate the old phones online on the MyVerizon website. People sell their upgrades all the time. The part I'm mainly concerned with is if this Verizon will actually do anything if I renew my contract and then leave like a week later lol.
HashtagNoFilter said:
I mean I'm not sure it really matters. I can activate the old phones online on the MyVerizon website. People sell their upgrades all the time. The part I'm mainly concerned with is if this Verizon will actually do anything if I renew my contract and then leave like a week later lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As long as the ETF is paid I don't think there's anything they can do.
Triscuit said:
Just be careful, I heard that if you cancel your contract before it's up they will ask for the phone back, I could be completely wrong but I wouldn't want you getting screwed when verizon asks for $1000 worth of phones back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what the etf is for, to pay for the phone.
UPDATES!
1. Used both upgrades to purchase 2 Gold iPhone 5S handsets at $150 each (plus shipping and taxes = $176). Total investment so far: $352
2. Activated them online using the IMEI.
**NOTE** I called Verizon multiple times to confirm if it was possible to activate them WITHOUT opening the box. They told me this was possible, but when I tried to do it, they ended up saying it wasn't possible, and that I HAD to dial *228 in order to finish the activation.
3. Put ad on Craigslist. Phone goes off every 5 minutes until some dude offers me $600 for each. I told him they were sealed, but that I had to open them and activate them. He said he would pay me the same so long as I opened them in front of him to confirm they were sealed!
4. Met dude, deactivated iPhones, reactivated old phones. Profit: $1200 - $352 = $848.
5. Found used iPhone 4S on Craigslist for $150. Deactivated my GS4 and activated the iPhone. Total thus far: $848 - $150 = $698
6. Sold GS4 the next day for $380. Total thus far: $698 + $380 = $1078.
7. Walked into T-Mobile, and switched!
8. GS3 for my dad, Nokia Lumia 521 for my mom, two Nexus 5 handsets for me and my brother (OMG SO MANY ROMSSS!!!), and a Galaxy Light for my little bro (he doesn't get a legit smartphone until he's in college next year lol)
9. Made a down payment of $500 for the phones in order to decrease the bill. And I still have a $21 credit on the bill after all the trade ins!
Previous Verizon bill: $250.82 with 2 smartphones and 3 dumbphones.
New T-Mobile bill: $183 for 5 smartphones.
Equivalent Verizon bill: $250.81 + $90 ($30 x 3 for adding 3 smartphones @ 2GB/month) = $340.81
10. ???
11. PROFIT!
I have had my phone for a couple of days now, and the speed is great. I get LTE in all the areas I got LTE with Verizon, and the speeds are about the same, if not better.
If you have any questions, let me know and I will try my best to answer you! Thanks