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Hi everyone,
So basically tomorrow is my birthday and my parents would be getting me something. I was thinking of a new gadget.
I currently have the Google Nexus S
So for mobile device I've got the Galaxy Nexus in mind, or the HTC one X.
But lately I've been thinking about tablets. I do not mind getting a tablet to pair with my Nexus S. I was thinking about the kindle fire, but I do not know how to get it in Singapore. Or the Asus Transformer, but im unsure of it because of the price.
So can you recommend me a tablet that lies with the price range below 350-400USD or $500 SGD. ?
So what do you think? And or is the galaxy nexus upgrade a better choice? Please help in advising me. I'm in a dilemma.
Thank you so much!!
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If I were in you I would only think about the Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) or the Samsung Galaxy Note.
The S2 is very well supported by a wide community of modders, has got a marvelous screen, and great hardware.
The Note is bigger but still smaller than a tablet, and gives you the possibility to use a very sensitive stylus.
Have a look at the size, and have your choice. If my S2 breaks I will buy a Note.
HTC One X has a Tegra 3 chip, currently the most powerful SoC solution. So I would suggest going for it - it wil be powerful even after 2 years.
S2 or Samsung Galaxy Nexus
I got the S2 but i would rather want the Samsung Galaxy Nexus cuz it's more "Google" if you know what I mean.. cuz i hate the touchwiz, I know you can get a ROM but still.. AND the nexus got the Navigation Bar!
If I were in your place I would have gone for tablet, having two gadgets of different leagues is better than upgrading one.
Thanks guys, I would take all your advice into account. I am hoping for more replies because all your replies are opposite one another
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Ok I'll add some more to your confusion!
Getting a new device is like getting a new pair of shoes. You should get the one that fits you comfortably. Here's a short list of what I'd get if I were to buy a phone (depending on need/want):
*available phones only
-Xperia S: Camera monster and cheaper than the OneX, at Par with SGS2's performance
-OneX: future proof (probably good for the next 2-3 years), powerful GPU
-Samsung Galaxy Nexus: timely updates (that's it)
-Samsung Galaxy S2: wide dev support, probably still good for the next year or so (but the resolution is too low IMO)
-OneS: beats the OneX in some benchmarks (in their native resolutions), IMO S4 chip is better than the 4-PLUS-1 A9 tegra 3, more affordable too.
IF you're going for a TAB and you can't afford a Transformer Prime don't settle for the Nook or a Fire. I suggest you get a Motorolla XOOM. It's tegra 2 powered and has an HD screen (1280x800) compared to the 1024x600 of the Nook and Fire, and it has a very wide dev support.
I suggest you go for a TAB and don't upgrade your phone. That way you'll have your Nexus S (which can still run almost every app on the Play Store) and have the XOOM for your multimedia satisfaction
Happy Birthday bro! good luck on your gift!
We have a number of tablets here where I work, and the one that I like the most is defiantly the Asus transformer. But that being said I agree with the last guy the XOOM is a good one and also is most acers. But price aside I would say the Transformer Prime would be a fine choice!
cepcamba said:
Ok I'll add some more to your confusion!
Getting a new device is like getting a new pair of shoes. You should get the one that fits you comfortably. Here's a short list of what I'd get if I were to buy a phone (depending on need/want):
*available phones only
-Xperia S: Camera monster and cheaper than the OneX, at Par with SGS2's performance
-OneX: future proof (probably good for the next 2-3 years), powerful GPU
-Samsung Galaxy Nexus: timely updates (that's it)
-Samsung Galaxy S2: wide dev support, probably still good for the next year or so (but the resolution is too low IMO)
-OneS: beats the OneX in some benchmarks (in their native resolutions), IMO S4 chip is better than the 4-PLUS-1 A9 tegra 3, more affordable too.
IF you're going for a TAB and you can't afford a Transformer Prime don't settle for the Nook or a Fire. I suggest you get a Motorolla XOOM. It's tegra 2 powered and has an HD screen (1280x800) compared to the 1024x600 of the Nook and Fire, and it has a very wide dev support.
I suggest you go for a TAB and don't upgrade your phone. That way you'll have your Nexus S (which can still run almost every app on the Play Store) and have the XOOM for your multimedia satisfaction
Happy Birthday bro! good luck on your gift!
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Thanks dude!! I really sincerely appreciate it it must have taken you a lot of time to write that out. Thanks good news I've got a few more days to decide. And haha you've added to my confusion
I've ruled out tablets for now.. this is due to the reason that I wouldn't bring it outside of the home anywhere with me unless I'm going overseas on holiday. This is due to school and lack of time..
So now you've narrowed me down to 2 devices which I had my eyes on. The One X and the Galaxy Nexus. Looking at the One X's development section it Loos empty. That's probably due to cwm being recently released for it. So in the 5days room I've got (parents waiting for a $150 voucher, phone costs $400) I will check the development section of the One X.
Now I wonder, which roms do you think will come to the one X? Aokp? Cm9? These are some basic concerns I have.. looks like I might have to actually go with the One X. How about MIUI on the One X?
Something that bothers me is the One X has a very different look from the Nexus. Minimalistic stuff on the launcher would be pretty difficult to achieve.. so any screenshots of cool designs done on the One X?
Thank you all guys! I hope you had a good day.
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Bernie Nolan said:
We have a number of tablets here where I work, and the one that I like the most is defiantly the Asus transformer. But that being said I agree with the last guy the XOOM is a good one and also is most acers. But price aside I would say the Transformer Prime would be a fine choice!
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Kinda got rid of the tablet idea thanks though!
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Bad news guys... just checked. The HTC One X is $698 come pared to the Galaxy nexus $400. Guess it has to be nexus unless you've got suggestions..
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shockem said:
Bad news guys... just checked. The HTC One X is $698 come pared to the Galaxy nexus $400. Guess it has to be nexus unless you've got suggestions..
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It's kind of hard to recommend a phone better than the Galaxy Nexus in it's price range. However I have 2 options I'd consider:
Xperia S:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=4369
pros:
-Best Camera in the android world
-32GB storage
-Sony's reputation of giving updates even to older devices (X10 came out with Donut and came as far as Gingerbread)
-Better CPU (1.5GHZ snapdragon vs 1.2GHZ TI-OMAP)
-with card slot
cons:
-no gorilla glass (can be offset with screen protectors though)
neutral:
-SuperAMOLED vs LED-Backlit_LCD (matter of preference)
-4.3" vs 4.65" (matter of preference)
Samsung Galaxy S2
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4219&idPhone2=3621
pros:
-definitely more afordable
-with card slot
-better camera
-more powerful SoC (better processor and GPU)
-very wide dev support
cons:
-not retina display
neutral:
-4.2" vs 4.65" (matter of preference)
Both these devices are significantly more affordable than the Galaxy Nexus and both has the same, or even better, performance.
Personally, I can afford the OneX but I'll be getting the Xperia S. IMO (benchmarks aside) there is nothing the OneX can do that the Xperia S can't, at least for the next year or so. And in two years time I'll probably be changing phones again, so I'll go with the Xperia S for now.
Hope this helps
Hi, I am looking for a highen tablet and the two that are considered the "best" are the Google Nexus 10 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. 60% of the time that I will be using this tablet is going to be for android app development and quick reference, ie googling a question. The other 40% is mostly going to be used for school and sometimes games . Any ideas which one I should get? Thanks.
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Hi, I am looking for a highen tablet and the two that are considered the "best" are the Google Nexus 10 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. 60% of the time that I will be using this tablet is going to be for android app development and quick reference, ie googling a question. The other 40% is mostly going to be used for school and sometimes games . Any ideas which one I should get? Thanks.
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Unless you really need the wacom tablet features, for you I'd say the Nexus 10 without any hesitation. The Nexus line has developers as a target audience, and it'll be faster to get Android updates. As far as 10" tablets go, there simply is no better option for development. The higher resolution screen and A15 processor also make it more future proof than the Note 10.1.
RandomAwesomeGuy said:
Hi, I am looking for a highen tablet and the two that are considered the "best" are the Google Nexus 10 and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. 60% of the time that I will be using this tablet is going to be for android app development and quick reference, ie googling a question. The other 40% is mostly going to be used for school and sometimes games . Any ideas which one I should get? Thanks.
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nexus 10
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As long as you posted it in the n10 forum all the comments will say buy n10 because they already prefered it over other devices, same will happen when you post in the note forum , so the best way to know is to try both by yourself and decide, both are the best in market btw so don't go for anything other than them
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I can't really tell you which is better because both are "good" tablets. Neither is great in my opinion, though for me, I preferred the nexus 10 over the note 10.1 (and I own a note phone).
Reasons: Nexus 10 resolution is fantastic but the contrast compared to a superAMOLED screen is pittiful. Nexus 10 displays blacks like greys. Still, the resolution makes up for it because even with my eyeball one inch from the screen, I cannot see a pixel.
Another negative that nexus is probably not so good for developing is 4.2.1. At least half my apps crash on the nexus, or are simply not optimized for the crazy high resolution. While developing for 4.2.1 would be smart, keep in mind that most devices are still on ICS or gingerbread still. When I go to an app in the market half of the 1 star reviews are from people saying it crashes on xxx device running 4.0/2.3 android.
So pick you poison. Luckily the note 10.1 can be found on "deals" for less than the $500+ nexus 10.
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I can't really tell you which is better because both are "good" tablets. Neither is great in my opinion, though for me, I preferred the nexus 10 over the note 10.1 (and I own a note phone).
Reasons: Nexus 10 resolution is fantastic but the contrast compared to a superAMOLED screen is pittiful. Nexus 10 displays blacks like greys. Still, the resolution makes up for it because even with my eyeball one inch from the screen, I cannot see a pixel.
Another negative that nexus is probably not so good for developing is 4.2.1. At least half my apps crash on the nexus, or are simply not optimized for the crazy high resolution. While developing for 4.2.1 would be smart, keep in mind that most devices are still on ICS or gingerbread still. When I go to an app in the market half of the 1 star reviews are from people saying it crashes on xxx device running 4.0/2.3 android.
So pick you poison. Luckily the note 10.1 can be found on "deals" for less than the $500+ nexus 10.
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I pretty agree with this, but my apps don't crash on 4.2.1, none, and nexus 10 costs 400$ and 500$, not only 500$.
I would go for the nexus 10. Better screen, better support, fast updates, and no stupid Samsung UI. Oh and the nexus has one of the newest exynos processors.
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specter491 said:
no stupid Samsung UI.
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The "pure Google" thing is getting funny. What could possibly be better about having less features rather than more? Back in the days of 512K of RAM when SoCs were slow and overlays crude, poor performance drove people to AOSP/AOKP and de-bloated custom ROMs. That's not really the case anymore. The h/w is now more capable than the UI and apps running on it.
I played with a friend’s N10 over the holidays and, feature wise, it was a barren wasteland compared to the Note. The phone UI on a 10" tablet is bizarre. Similarly he was amazed at what the Note could do that his N10 couldn't. The N10 has a faster SoC than the Note but when you factor in the PPI it's pushing and that memory bandwidth is hard-partitioned to support the display it's certainly not any faster. And with app incompatibility because of the resolution some apps behave poorly or don’t work at all.
The Note has IO accessories available to match the N10's ports, takes up to a 64GB exFAT SD card for expansion, has an IR port, larger speakers than the N10, and gets significantly better battery life and charges 1/3 faster. It also doesn't have light bleed. Without question the N10 will get updates ten times faster than the Note. But so what, it'll still do 1/3 of the things the Note can do right now. It'll just be Google's barren OS with updates. I've disabled Google Now because I don't use any of their native apps that it depends on to harvest data and for some reason it thinks I work at a McDonalds because I stop at one frequently. As a value-priced consumption device with a great display the N10's a solid choice. For people interested in creating and managing content the Note's a better choice. Its 147PPI display is fine for pics and videos and doesn't require upscaling like the N10's display does. It's obviously not as good for text and computer generated content like the UI and that's a compromise you have to make to get the additional features. So for people looking for something beyond consumption I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Note. It's already sold 5MM units and I'd be surprised based on its limited distribution if the N10's sold 1MM.
OP, if the things in this video mean anything to you consider the Note. If all you care about is consumption and the display the N10's a better choice.
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The "pure Google" thing is getting funny. What could possibly be better about having less features rather than more? Back in the days of 512K of RAM when SoCs were slow and overlays crude, poor performance drove people to AOSP/AOKP and de-bloated custom ROMs. That's not really the case anymore. The h/w is now more capable than the UI and apps running on it.
I played with a friend’s N10 over the holidays and, feature wise, it was a barren wasteland compared to the Note. The phone UI on a 10" tablet is bizarre. Similarly he was amazed at what the Note could do that his N10 couldn't. The N10 has a faster SoC than the Note but when you factor in the PPI it's pushing and that memory bandwidth is hard-partitioned to support the display it's certainly not any faster. And with app incompatibility because of the resolution some apps behave poorly or don’t work at all.
The Note has IO accessories available to match the N10's ports, takes up to a 64GB exFAT SD card for expansion, has an IR port, larger speakers than the N10, and gets significantly better battery life and charges 1/3 faster. It also doesn't have light bleed. Without question the N10 will get updates ten times faster than the Note. But so what, it'll still do 1/3 of the things the Note can do right now. It'll just be Google's barren OS with updates. I've disabled Google Now because I don't use any of their native apps that it depends on to harvest data and for some reason it thinks I work at a McDonalds because I stop at one frequently. As a value-priced consumption device with a great display the N10's a solid choice. For people interested in creating and managing content the Note's a better choice. Its 147PPI display is fine for pics and videos and doesn't require upscaling like the N10's display does. It's obviously not as good for text and computer generated content like the UI and that's a compromise you have to make to get the additional features. So for people looking for something beyond consumption I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Note. It's already sold 5MM units and I'd be surprised based on its limited distribution if the N10's sold 1MM.
OP, if the things in this video mean anything to you consider the Note. If all you care about is consumption and the display the N10's a better choice.
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Just like stock doesnt work for you, Touchwiz simply doesnt work for others. Some dont like it because its ugly, some dont like it because it introduces compatibility problems with apps (a really big concern for this post considering OP is a dev), some dont like them because they slow down the device (more so with Motorola's skins). The only advantage I see with Touchwiz over stock is the multiwindow stuff, and then its nothing that others, be it Google themselves or devs here, couldn't replicate.
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Just like stock doesnt work for you, Touchwiz simply doesnt work for others. Some dont like it because its ugly, some dont like it because it introduces compatibility problems with apps (a really big concern for this post considering OP is a dev), some dont like them because they slow down the device (more so with Motorola's skins). The only advantage I see with Touchwiz over stock is the multiwindow stuff, and then its nothing that others, be it Google themselves or devs here, couldn't replicate.
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It also has S-Pen features, but as you said, it really goes both ways.
Also, it's not a question of "can" they do it. It's more of a question of "will" they do it. Just because Google or some dev "can" replicate it, doesn't mean it'll come to the N10.
I'm not siding with either one here, but they both have their merits and faults.
As for app development, I'd think the N10 is a better choice for you mainly because it'll be up to date software-wise for a long long while and you can continue to develop apps.
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Just like stock doesnt work for you, Touchwiz simply doesnt work for others. Some dont like it because its ugly, some dont like it because it introduces compatibility problems with apps (a really big concern for this post considering OP is a dev), some dont like them because they slow down the device (more so with Motorola's skins). The only advantage I see with Touchwiz over stock is the multiwindow stuff, and then its nothing that others, be it Google themselves or devs here, couldn't replicate.
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You're absolutely right - it's a matter of individual choice. With h/w having reached the state it has performance increases are measured in milliseconds. For people that are more interested in benchmarks and picking up 1/10 of a second in screen transitions than actually getting stuff done a Nexus device is an excellent choice. By the time you add (if they exist) non-integrated third party apps from developers ranging from excellent to sketchy to replicate the Note's features you have as much (if not more) bloat on it and the apps don't work as well together. Can you wireless transmit content from your N10 to any HDMI-equipped output device? By the time Miracast reaches critical mass the N10 III will be out. Someone above mentioned Nexus as a developers platform. Those days are gone too. With value-based starting prices for the N4/N7/N10 of $299/$199/$399 respectively and a decidedly lower focus on build quality Nexus is now a mainstream consumer product with its lead feature being price/value. The GN which was a revered device on XDA only sold 750K copies. That sort of says something about what's really important to making a device commercially successful and being “pure” and getting “fast updates” doesn’t seem to be it.
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The GN which was a revered device on XDA only sold 750K copies. That sort of says something about what's really important to making a device commercially successful and being “pure” and getting “fast updates” doesn’t seem to be it.
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The GN was banned at least once in the US from my knowledge, and given the short lifespan of smartphones, it's only natural that the GN was already superseded by the imminent S3.
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I pretty agree with this, but my apps don't crash on 4.2.1, none, and nexus 10 costs 400$ and 500$, not only 500$.
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Nexus 10 16GB is $444 with shipping & tax, Nexus 10 32GB is $553 with shipping and tax.
I got mine on a "deal" from staples because I had a $10 off coupon and shipping was free. After tax it was still $533. Google charges tax to every state in USA as far as I know, except the states without a sales tax. New Hampshire?
As for apps crashing... HDhomerun 2 crashes constantly, chrome has completely locked up my device, and other apps just randomly force close. I've only had the device for 2 days and its running completely stock. I know that over time things will crash less so i'm not complaining a whole lot. But its quite annoying.
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The GN was banned at least once in the US from my knowledge.
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It was banned very late in its lifecycle when sales were already down to a trickle because better spec'd devices had been out for a while. The point that I was making is that the GN was available at subsidized prices similar to other phones with overlays from the U.S. carriers. Its "pureness" and "fast updates" didn't sway mainstream consumers for it to have sold so poorly during its peak selling period. Outside of XDA, people like overlays because they make devices easier to use which is why the OEMs offer them.
Here's an article talking about it...
Google just can't catch a break with its Nexus phones. While the "pure Google" experience of the company's Nexus phones tends to generate fanatical loyalty from extreme Android frothers, it seems to appeal to almost no one else. In a federal court today, a Samsung lawyer said the sales of its latest Galaxy Nexus phone were "so miniscule" that it isn't a threat to anyone. Samsung's lawyers said the company took in about $250 million from the Galaxy Nexus during the first two quarters [where revenue is in the billions] it was on sale. That isn't nothing, but it's far short of a hit. Available on Verizon, Sprint, and in an unlocked model for T-Mobile and AT&T, the Nexus managed to sell at about the level of T-Mobile's Galaxy S 4G when it had its two best quarters. It fell far short of a hit like Sprint's Epic 4G or Verizon's Fascinate, according to court documents from Samsung's big California patent case against Apple.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408712,00.asp
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It was banned very late in its lifecycle when sales were already down to a trickle because better spec'd devices had been out for a while. The point that I was making is that the GN was available at subsidized prices similar to other phones with overlays from the U.S. carriers. Its "pureness" and "fast updates" didn't sway mainstream consumers for it to have sold so poorly during its peak selling period. Outside of XDA, people like overlays because they make devices easier to use which is why the OEMs offer them.
Here's an article talking about it...
Google just can't catch a break with its Nexus phones. While the "pure Google" experience of the company's Nexus phones tends to generate fanatical loyalty from extreme Android frothers, it seems to appeal to almost no one else. In a federal court today, a Samsung lawyer said the sales of its latest Galaxy Nexus phone were "so miniscule" that it isn't a threat to anyone. Samsung's lawyers said the company took in about $250 million from the Galaxy Nexus during the first two quarters [where revenue is in the billions] it was on sale. That isn't nothing, but it's far short of a hit. Available on Verizon, Sprint, and in an unlocked model for T-Mobile and AT&T, the Nexus managed to sell at about the level of T-Mobile's Galaxy S 4G when it had its two best quarters. It fell far short of a hit like Sprint's Epic 4G or Verizon's Fascinate, according to court documents from Samsung's big California patent case against Apple.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408712,00.asp
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I thought it was much earlier, but regardless, you're right in that fast updates and pureness don't sell. But I sincerely doubt that hardware itself is also what makes sales soar. Yeah, the S3 sale is simply outstanding, but I'm sure the majority of S3 owners only bought the S3 because it's something new (among the iPhones) and because they "heard" from nearly everywhere that it's a smartphone that can compete well against the iPhone. And yes, the hardware helps with that definitely, but the majority don't care if it has an Exynons 4412 SoC inside clocked at 1.4 gHz.
What I consider as the best reason for poor Nexus sales is that Google just sucks at advertising. I never saw once in my life a billboard or a TV commercial about the Galaxy Nexus on it. I only knew about it because I like tech and try to keep up with what's new. I see Google doing a better job with the recent Nexus line though, but now that Samsung has gained so much popularity with its own flagship line, people are going to keep their eyes on any new pure Samsung products (the S4 and Note III).
So how does this relate to the OP - it really doesn't .
I will have to agree that anything in the Nexus line is a better developer platform. Yes, it's commercialized as an average consumer product, but the long support from Google will give it the advantage in development because you can continue to develop apps without having to worry about breaking compatibility in newer devices. Also, you won't have to deal with ROM ports that may work but also may also not work completely.
Google Nexus 10 or Note 10
I think that is one hard question to ask? I think Galaxy Note 10 is really awesome phablet, i mean, tablet if you really like writing or drawing stuff on the go, but the size can be the problem if you want to carry it to public area.
So maybe you should pick up Note 5.5-inch instead.
Google Nexus 10 is also one great device, especially with its eye-pleasing screen and fast performance. I also like when Google Earth is run on this device.
Yeah, it's hard question.
Hi all, thank you for your responses. My next question is: I been going to stores looking for the tablets on display, but no luck for finding a Nexus 10. Does it feel cheap? Also from going to the stores, I really like the feature on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 that has the navigation controls on the bottom left and the toggles/notifications menu on the right, but the nexus has only the navigation controls in the center. Is it bothersome or does it feel normal to use. Note: I have been using an iPhone and iPad for regular use/programming, and I only had contact with an android device at the stores and using the strictly developer use only android tablets at school, they are all 7-inch tablets, and you get in a lot of trouble if you play with them. Thank you, again.
First thing you'll notice is the screen on the N10 is miles better than the Note 10.1. When the Note gets a SAMOLED I'm getting one. Until then the N10 is the better machine. Plus the faster CPU, and they're both Samsung, why would anybody choose a Note 10.1 instead? Only the stylus. So make that your pivot question. Do you need a stylus or not.
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Hi all, thank you for your responses. My next question is: I been going to stores looking for the tablets on display, but no luck for finding a Nexus 10. Does it feel cheap? Also from going to the stores, I really like the feature on the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 that has the navigation controls on the bottom left and the toggles/notifications menu on the right, but the nexus has only the navigation controls in the center. Is it bothersome or does it feel normal to use. Note: I have been using an iPhone and iPad for regular use/programming, and I only had contact with an android device at the stores and using the strictly developer use only android tablets at school, they are all 7-inch tablets, and you get in a lot of trouble if you play with them. Thank you, again.
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The Nexus certainly does not feel cheap. The plastic has an almost rubbery feel, not at all cold like metallic tablets and not rigid or creaky like most other Android tablets. IMO its one of the best feeling tablets out there.
The buttons on left, notifications on right are how things were done on Android tablets from 3.0 through 4.1. The new layout doesn't quite feel as natural in landscape, but it was done in the name of consistency with phones and probably is the right move for the future. While Samsung might stick with the traditional layout, there's also a very good chance that in a future firmware update the Note 10.1 could adopt the N10's button layout. I wouldn't say its bad, far from it. The old layout is just a little more comfortable, since if you're holding your tablet with both hands you dont have to let go on one to do something (home/back/etc.).
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The Nexus certainly does not feel cheap. The plastic has an almost rubbery feel, not at all cold like metallic tablets and not rigid or creaky like most other Android tablets. IMO its one of the best feeling tablets out there.
The buttons on left, notifications on right are how things were done on Android tablets from 3.0 through 4.1. The new layout doesn't quite feel as natural in landscape, but it was done in the name of consistency with phones and probably is the right move for the future. While Samsung might stick with the traditional layout, there's also a very good chance that in a future firmware update the Note 10.1 could adopt the N10's button layout. I wouldn't say its bad, far from it. The old layout is just a little more comfortable, since if you're holding your tablet with both hands you dont have to let go on one to do something (home/back/etc.).
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Thanks, from my knowledge, the Nexus 10 has two pull down menus from the top, is this correct? And what is each one? Also, Does any one know if there is a rom/mod that enables the old layout? Thanks, again.
It's not perfect but there are many things about the Nexus 10 that are better than the iPad 4. There's no denying that the difference between the iPad 3 and 4 is smaller than the difference between the first and second or the second and third and the iPad 4 has suffered because of it.
I had Sony Xperia Tablet S. Now I.m happy owner of Nexus 10 It's amazing device. Beautiful display, nice design, fast. No crash at all Really stable Tablet. My wife also love it Now I have more time for playing when she has Nexus is her hands hehe. For me best tablet so far.
kirue24 said:
It's not perfect but there are many things about the Nexus 10 that are better than the iPad 4. There's no denying that the difference between the iPad 3 and 4 is smaller than the difference between the first and second or the second and third and the iPad 4 has suffered because of it.
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I dunno, there's a pretty significant difference between the iPad 3 and 4 under the hood-- the thing is that Apple got the interface problem solved a long, long time ago, and given what kinds of games most people play on their tablets (casual things like Angry Birds), it's not like your average consumer will notice anything changed besides the Lightning port over 30-pin.
As an iPad 3 launch day buyer, I was annoyed by the quick release of the iPad 4 (because those differences do matter to me, especially the processor bump), but my iPad 3 serves me well enough already and I like having the option of using a 4:3 tablet if I feel like it. The Nexus 10's not half bad in portrait, but it always makes me feel a tad ridiculous.
Just bought an Nexus 10 second hand. I know a new one is around that corner but just couldn't wait. Had a look at the Toshiba Pro tegra 4 at my local store but it didn't impress me. It was a bit laggy.
Fingers crossed it will come tomorrow.
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Nobody knows when new Nexus 10 will be released... don't worry you made a good choice buying current N10 I heard that Toshiba with t4 has overheating problems...
Yeah I'm a bit dubious about buying the current N10 after one of the Google bosses mentioned about the new N10 in the pipeline, but I could be waiting till November for the new one.
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I really like the Nexus 10, it's a very fast device, also has a nice battery life! Another thing I really liked is the screen and how good it is to use to watch Movies/Anime/Series/etc, I feel comfortable holding it. With Android 4.3 update my device became even faster and the freezings it used to have stopped.
I won't talk about iPad, as I'm an open Apple Hater, so don't discuss with me it, unless you want me to show my "other side" lol! By the way, I got my Nexus 10 after coming from Motorola Xoom, which was still a great device
I'm really tempted to get the 10... but November is really close...
What's the probability that the new Nexus 10 will be really released on November? 50%, 80%, 100%?
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I'm really tempted to get the 10... but November is really close...
What's the probability that the new Nexus 10 will be really released on November? 50%, 80%, 100%?
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If things go as expected it's very possible . Check my complete comparison of it against Motorola Xoom, if it happens like the transition of Xoom to Nexus 10 you may have a good idea of what will happen, also it's a review I made, so you may find some info there.
"We think so supersonic and we make our bombs atomic" - Eagle Fly Free (Helloween)
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mi.tra said:
I'm really tempted to get the 10... but November is really close...
What's the probability that the new Nexus 10 will be really released on November? 50%, 80%, 100%?
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Some people are even saying October.
I only bought mine today because I got a good deal 2nd hand. I would not buy one new at this moment in time. I wish I had got one last year but reading this forum maybe not getting one was a blessing in disguise due to the restarts and bugs in 4.2.
Looks like 4.3. may have fixed this so happy days!
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If things go as expected it's very possible . Check my complete comparison of it against Motorola Xoom, if it happens like the transition of Xoom to Nexus 10 you may have a good idea of what will happen, also it's a review I made, so you may find some info there.
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Thanks for the info
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Some people are even saying October.
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Some crazy or serious people?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/9/4605328/asus-nexus-10-rumor
Thoughts? I know most of you guys are current-gen Nexus 10 owners, but this is good or bad news? Maybe we'll see an aluminum tablet like the Transformers instead of normal Samsung plastic?
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/9/4605328/asus-nexus-10-rumor
Thoughts? I know most of you guys are current-gen Nexus 10 owners, but this is good or bad news? Maybe we'll see an aluminum tablet like the Transformers instead of normal Samsung plastic?
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If they've fixed the I/O issues, maybe. But on the whole, my reaction was actually rather along the lines of "please no." Samsung's build quality on Google devices has been very solid in my opinion, they make excellent NAND and screen tech, and they're a bit saner about speaker placement.
Perhaps most importantly though, I actually hate metal builds on tablets. Mainly because anyone who's owned a flat-back metal tablet (such as an iPad for me, and brief experiences with the "premium" Transformers) knows what an awful grating sound these things can make when you set them down on some surfaces. The rubberized back might be many things to different people, but it's definitely not noisy.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/9/4605328/asus-nexus-10-rumor
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This actually makes a lot of sense. Samsung recently just came out with the Tab 3 10.1, which based on a dollar-per-performance metric, is inferior to their old Nexus 10 in every way. It wouldn't make sense for them to release yet another tablet with even better performance for the same price.
I actually like the rubbery/grippy back of the N10. It may not look as pretty as aluminum, but it's easier to hold.
Also, since the new Transformer Pad Infinity has the Tegra 4, my guess is the new N10 will come with the Tegra 4. It's either that or the SD 800. In any case, the new N10 will be a beast, and I can't wait to get one.
If it's true it will probably be based on the new Asus Transformer that is due out anytime. So the new Nexus 10 maybe tegra 4 based.
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This actually makes a lot of sense. Samsung recently just came out with the Tab 3 10.1, which based on a dollar-per-performance metric, is inferior to their old Nexus 10 in every way. It wouldn't make sense for them to release yet another tablet with even better performance for the same price.
I actually like the rubbery/grippy back of the N10. It may not look as pretty as aluminum, but it's easier to hold.
Also, since the new Transformer Pad Infinity has the Tegra 4, my guess is the new N10 will come with the Tegra 4. It's either that or the SD 800. In any case, the new N10 will be a beast, and I can't wait to get one.
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Based on the recent Qualcomm/AOSP debacle going on right now, I think it's more likely to be the Tegra.
Update: Former Wall Street Journal reporter Amir Efrati has retracted his statement that Samsung is making the new Nexus 10.
Well I'm glad I got my (belated) N10 and didn't wait.
Asus QC is extremely poor. Two N7's I got last year had screen lift. Asus gimped the memory speed in last year's Transformers and many people are furious about that.
The two Samsung products I have owned have been perfect build wise - Nexus S and the N10 I just got. Can't fault them.
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Hey guys, current N7 (2012) owner here. I'm excited to see what Asus will bring to the table. Here are some thoughts/concerns as someone who is wanting to purchase a 2nd gen N10:
-The screen on the current N10 is amazing. I hope Asus at least matches it.
-Speaker placement. The front-facing speakers are a fantastic design decision. I hope Asus maintains this design aesthetic.
-I am hoping for an LTE model. Both gen N7's from Asus have LTE, and I hope this means it is coming to the N10. Missing LTE is the biggest thing (other than a 2nd gen on the horizon) that is keeping me from an N10 right now.
-I'm not concerned about build issues. The current N10 seems to have a few issues of its own. I have had zero problems with my N7, so I know Asus can put out a nice product.
-Upgraded chipset is a no-brainer, but will we see more ram? I sort of hope so...
-Price point; I hope they lower the wifi-only models a bit and price the LTE's where the current wifi models are. Asus knows how to keep build costs down, so I am hoping this is feasible
So that is kind of my thoughts on the 2nd Gen N10. I've got my fingers crossed on this bad boy. I hope it doesn't disappoint.
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Asus QC is extremely poor.
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I made the same experience with the N7 and the transformer prime. And even worst than the build quality is the customer care. No Asus products for me, thanks, but no thanks!
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No hurry to leave the N10.. Solid device.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/9/4605328/asus-nexus-10-rumor
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Asus doesn't have Samsung's display or storage tech. No thanks.
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Asus doesn't have Samsung's display or storage tech. No thanks.
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Have to strongly agree. My wife has the Transformer Prime and it requires a custom rom and hacks such as requiring a high class external sd card to handle i/o operations to bypass the abysmal internal storage. With Nexus devices not having access to external sd I would steer well clear of the new Nexus until sufficient feedback tells you otherwise.
This screen shot is supposedly "proof" that Asus is building the next N10.
This is what comes back from the UPC that's posted.
Asus could end up making the next N10 but not by "winning out" over Samsung. Based on the rather marginal sales and low margin of the N10 #1 Samsung may have decided to pass. Asus is incredibly good at making a lot (features) for a little (price). But as others have already said the components used, like low-cost NAND, are how they make the numbers work. After following the Prime and Infinity it would take a lot of change in Asus' approach for me to even consider one of their devices.
Really hoping that it is not built by Asus. I may end up buying a nexus 10 now instead of waiting later for the new one. There is something about asus I don't like .
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Having owned a tf101 and a tf201, I really hope that ASUS doesn't get into the Nexus line. The tf 201 in particular is garbage, unless, as stated before, you use a custom rom ...and even then, to get decent performance, you need to hack it to use a high speed SD card to get what should have been its IO speed to begin with. Couple that with the myriad of issues that came about due to poor quality control, such as light bleed, LCD mura, dead pixels, and their horrible RMA policies (like making you pay to ship a defective device to them for repairs...several times in some cases) and an ASUS tab is a no-go for me, no matter what the specs are.
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If its ever a tegra on the new N10 then im off, not buying that crap. Owning a N7 2012 edition right now and its a disappointment ... Bad screen, horrible speakers and that tegra chip heating up so bad... Thinking of buying a current gen N10 and trading in my N7. Worth? Opinions please I mean i read reviews and such but actual user opinion would be awesome Will surely install CM on it though
That's what I'm also thinking about doing. The nexus 7 used to be great, but the chip aged horribly. It isn't as smooth or fast as it used to be .
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I'm also interested in some user opinions here.. too late to sway me though as mine is already being shipped. Probably get the new one too when it comes out although I just had my first Asus tablet in the new Nexus 7 but had to return due to touchscreen issues twice.
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Am I the only one here who likes Asus?
I've had both the N7 and the N7v2. I also have an Asus laptop. If I had the money I'd splurge on the Asus AIO Desktop (that runs both Windows 8 and Android). All of my motherboards have been Asus.
For all the people complaining about Asus's N7 build quality, there's an equal percentage of people complaining about Samsung's N10 build quality, I assure you.
In any case, when the new N10 comes out, I'll be one of the first in line to buy it. It's either coming packed with the Tegra 4 or the SD 800.
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Am I the only one here who likes Asus?
I've had both the N7 and the N7v2. I also have an Asus laptop. If I had the money I'd splurge on the Asus AIO Desktop (that runs both Windows 8 and Android). All of my motherboards have been Asus.
For all the people complaining about Asus's N7 build quality, there's an equal percentage of people complaining about Samsung's N10 build quality, I assure you.
In any case, when the new N10 comes out, I'll be one of the first in line to buy it. It's either coming packed with the Tegra 4 or the SD 800.
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I actually love Asus products.. I can't speak for the tablets with the exception of my short stint with Nexus 7v2. Aside from my missed touches I loved it. I use their motherboards alot. So to answer your question. ... you are not alone, there are at least 2 of us.
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Okay okay okay, price aside, is there an android tablet that really beats the nexus 9? Spec for spec?
My iPad 2g needed desperate upgrading. I love my nexus 5. Did I make the wrong choice going to the nexus 9? I really wanted the 64bit, thinking it would be the next best thing. I don't mind spending the extra for the iPad costs, but I've been wanting the freedom android delivers.
Is the build quality that bad... It's got to be better than all plastic, ah la Samsung. I guess the higher price should suggest quality. I just wish the reviews were not overwhelmingly poor.
I really like it so far. And there is something refreshing about using android on a big screen.
On the other hand I want to have a good tablet. Should I just root a different tablet and place asop on it. One with all the specs that proves to be better or as good as the iPad.
I'm having a great experience so far, everything is working as expected and I have none of the issues reported by others. Performance rocks though it does take a while to charge.
There is a thread on satisfied owners. My experience on "who knows what to believe" is, believe everything. People aren't making up problems. Some tablets (N9) don't have them. I'm waiting for at least two more production runs before purchasing. Although it's a PITA to do so, I will return/exchange until I get one that satisfies me. I'm hoping battery charge/discharge issues will be sorted out with software. This will be my sixth Nexus device. I've only had to exchange one: N7 flo, but its touch screen issue has caused me to monitor the N9 experience before I buy. I had to send back my first Samsung Tab Pro 12.2 (for my son) for a dead pixel. Replacement was perfect.
It's hard to wait, but I'll be happier in the long run. I have my N7 FLO which I will keep. It's just so portable.
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I am a previous iPad 3 owner and I traded in it for a Nexus 9. Overall I am not regret on doing that. Only one thing, apps and quality of apps for Android tablets admittedly worse than the iOS ones.
Thanks!
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I am a previous iPad 3 owner and I traded in it for a Nexus 9. Overall I am not regret on doing that. Only one thing, apps and quality of apps for Android tablets admittedly worse than the iOS ones.
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Nice to know someone else jumped the itrain! That's the little reassurance i needed. I'm digging my decision more and more. I agree and wish more for the app verse, too.