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I've been searching around on the subject for the last few days, in hopes of finding the answer...but I'm still not clear. Is it possible to load the tablet version of GMail on the Note, without switching to a new ROM? I'm running the basic stock ICS, and rooted. I'm really enjoying the stability and S-pen gestures working 100%, but would like to have the tablet version of GMail without switching the DPI, or changing ROM's. I'm pretty sure this isn't possible from what I've read so far, but figured I would ask the question before I gave up completely.
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AFAIK, the tablet versions of any app only apply when the correct DPI is detected. If you are on stock DPI of 320 then I don't think it would work. You'll need custom DPI control via a supported ROM/kernel to achieve this. But I might be wrong.
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Ditch stock ICS and try paranoid android. You will get tablet style apps and a host of other features stock android could only dream of. Seriously using stock ICS with all the great ROMs floating around is like being at a feast and only eating bread.
I'm interested to know the same thing
johnrippa said:
Ditch stock ICS and try paranoid android. You will get tablet style apps and a host of other features stock android could only dream of. Seriously using stock ICS with all the great ROMs floating around is like being at a feast and only eating bread.
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I've tried all the other ROM's, albeit a while back, and lost all S-Pen gestures. Maybe this has been solved since then, I haven't been tracking the threads, but I need that functionality. I use my device a huge percentage of the time on my job-sites for taking pictures. I'm wearing work gloves, so using the S-pen is a great way to do this without taking your gloves on and off all day long. For some unknown reason Samsung made the S-Pen not able to hit the home, back, menu buttons and opted for a silly gesture system to achieve this. I'm stuck with no way to go back, use home, or menu on other ROMs with-out taking off my gloves, or the rare-used hit the button with the tip of my nose trick .
This is the first device I've left pretty much stock, and I have to say it's pretty awesome not constantly checking threads and flashing nightlies in hope of this bug or that bug being fixed. Everything is working rock-solid right now with no FC's, no reboots and all S-Pen functionality. I do understand all the great ROM's are out there and I might switch back to them at some point...but for now I need the gestures.
Another thing I was getting on the other ROMs was some pretty erratic s-pen behavior like activating screen taps when I was over an inch away from the screen, and being overall less accurate then when on stock. I'm hoping the Galaxy Note2 will come with an S-Pen calibrating app, that will be able to be ported over the original Note.
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AFAIK, the tablet versions of any app only apply when the correct DPI is detected. If you are on stock DPI of 320 then I don't think it would work. You'll need custom DPI control via a supported ROM/kernel to achieve this. But I might be wrong.
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I wonder is there is a way to 'mock' your dpi. I'll think I'll check into that today, might be possible.
Anyword on this yet? I'll love to use tablet apps on my note 2.
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Just change the dpi of gmail and it will turn them to dual panel. Try 220 or 240.
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charlieb620 said:
Just change the dpi of gmail and it will turn them to dual panel. Try 220 or 240.
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Ok so how do we change the dpi?
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With this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083890
If the S3 and Tab 2 were eventually unlocked, I suspect the Note 2 is only a matter of time.
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If the S3 and Tab 2 were eventually unlocked, I suspect the Note 2 is only a matter of time.
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Ehh I'm not worried. There is always kexec besides with AOSP roms you lose S-Pen functionality.
Kexec was a really dark period for the Vzw S3.
A minute to boot made me really sad.
Even if you had a TouchWiz rom, if you wanted LeanKernel, you needed kexec.
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Ehh I'm not worried. There is always kexec besides with AOSP roms you lose S-Pen functionality.
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Exactly on the AOSP and losing S-Pen functions, that's the whole point I got this phone.
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LLStarks said:
Kexec was a really dark period for the Vzw S3.
A minute to boot made me really sad.
Even if you had a TouchWiz rom, if you wanted LeanKernel, you needed kexec.
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I'll take a minute boot time over BS junkware on my phone everywhichway. That said, I'm just lookin' for root to remove junk
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Ehh I'm not worried. There is always kexec besides with AOSP roms you lose S-Pen functionality.
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AOSP isn't the only reason to root
I love AOSP but Touchwiz grew on me n I really like the S Pen
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AOSP isn't the only reason to root
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I never said it was but root is easy even with a locked BL the only reason you need an unlocked bootloader is for different ROMs, and with this phone I don't think I care too much about custom ROMs
I need twrp n root
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For the time being, I'd just like to freeze the bloatware and modify the apps available for multiview.
I'm just looking for root and a way to fully recover if things go wrong. All that's missing is the ability to add apps of your choice to the multi-view and maybe a way to change the dpi to force tablet mode. Let's see what happens.
one of the reasons why im not sure i can give up my nexus and grab a note 2. i really really like getting all the newest versions right away and having AOSP would ruin the whole S-Pen idea. i'd basically be left with a giant nexus. wish i could get the newest updates with the S-Pen software.
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I'm just looking for root and a way to fully recover if things go wrong. All that's missing is the ability to add apps of your choice to the multi-view and maybe a way to change the dpi to force tablet mode. Let's see what happens.
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This this this this this and this.
Tablet mode is something I am looking forward to with great enthusiasm.
I thought paranoid android tried adding s-pen features on their aosp rom? Seen it like awhile back on the xda news.
Hey guys, I just got a Smart Dock for my i605. Got it for half off so I figured, why not? I'm running PAC-Man Rom and having a few issues. I'm beginning to think I need Touch Wiz to take full advantage, but I thought I'd ask.
1. When I put it in the dock, if the phone is fully booted into the rom, the phone will freeze and require a battery pull. However, if you reboot and wait for it to boot and then sit on the dock there is no issue.
2. I cannot get HDMI out to work, just gives a blank screen and says no media detected. Wife's S4 works so I know the dock is good.
Does anyone have suggestions or should I just dual boot TW and AOSP? Haven't tried OTG , yet, so I don't know if that works or not.
Thanks got any help!
OTG works on AOSP but the dock doesn't fully work yet, there was a request to the AOSP devs, like sbrissen, to try and add docking support but AFAIK it hasn't been added yet.
To get full use out of your dock like you want you'll have to be on TW.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Don't take this the wrong way.....
But is using the dock that important? I mean you only got it cause it was half off so you had lived without it before..... I personally wouldn't up and switch back to TW or dual boot just for a dock if I was happy with AOSP.
The only real feature the dock offers that I would use would be the HDMI, I certainly would leave it beside my bed with the screen on line an alarm clock cause our phone is prone to screen burn.
I guess what I'm getting at is if the only reason you're considering dual booting or going back to TW is for the dock then that isn't the best reason, if you're unhappy on AOSP then sure I could see it.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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True that
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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The TW Roms I have tried, and I've tried the vast majority, are nowhere close to AOSP. Running a theme isn't the same thing and having a few little tweaks that change the DPI definitely isn't close to PAs settings.
Each to their own with what they like but TWs features are definitely not worth staying for me, the only thing I ever used was the Spen and I can get back almost all the features, and then some that weren't there, with an app.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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The TW camera is the only thing that I ever miss, however there are plenty of camera apps that one could use that are as good or better. For instance Camera FV-5.
As for Smart Stay, I honestly never used it because it never worked right for me. There are still other ways to get that back with apps that add similar functionality.
Like I said earlier the dock is nice, I don't own one but I have used one, but the only real awesome feature is HDMI. The rest are nothing special and can be accomplished in far better ways with other apps.
I disagree about Nova or Apex, TW goes far far beyond a launcher and pervades everything about the ROM. There are AOSP features, like per app DPI, that can be hacked onto a TW ROM but never work as well if they work at all.
There are certainly advantages to having a TW ROM but for some of us they aren't enough, perhaps when we get the 4.2.2 update and there are new features it may be good enough reason to go back.
Either way my comments were directed towards the OP who stated he preferred AOSP to TW, each of us prefer our own flavor of android and for me and the OP that's AOSP. If you love AOSP and dislike or hate TW you need to think long and hard before going back to TW for one feature that you've lived without, one that is a novelty for most of us like the Spen.
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I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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I'm sure the OP has tried TW Roms, maybe not the latest but most of us flashed multiple before we went to AOSP.
While I agree the devs have done a great job there are some things that only work properly or perfectly on AOSP. And I don't know which Roms you have tried but Vanilla Rootbox has been perfectly stable for me, the only issue on the latest update is acore force closes but that issue wasn't there on 6-28, some of the Roms are rough but not all.
And a lot of us bought the phone for TW features and then found ways to implement the ones that matter in AOSP. I personally can stand how badly TW is bloated no matter what the devs do.
And while its easy to go back to a nandroid its always easier to stay on your setup that's working perfectly unless there is an excellent reason to switch.
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lhkjohn said:
I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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My same exact feeling for TW, I want to like it but no matter what it always turns out to be a bloated mess.... And then we have beautiful AOSP with its built in from the ground up mods that work seamlessly without having to install Xposed frameworks or having to hack the ROM apart and piece it back together. There is just something about AOSP.
Now if we could only find a Dev willing to port the TW framework for use like has been done on a few other Sammy phones! Then we'd have the best of both worlds.
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Hello there.
I have a i9300 for a year now and I've been doing the official upgrades by wifi, currently with 4.1.2 rom. Problem is I find It slower over time , especially opening contacts and multitasking, the redraw and reopen of programs takes some seconds, which is irritating. I know that having only 1gb of ram dosent help but do you believe doing a clean install would help? Or should I try a custom rom? I would very much love to install a custom rom but I read that some stuff don't work at all with them, is that true or is there one that is flawless that you recommend?
Thanks for the help.
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Custom roms and kernels address some of the issues. Touchwiz based custom roms always seem to suffer from contacts bring purged from memory. Aosp custom roms are much better at memory management but it depends if you can live without those samsung features.
Its worth reading the "basics" thread before rooting though. Its in general > sticky roll-up thread.
We wont recommend specific roms because its too subjective.
Please post questions in q&a
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Thanks for your input, will do.
But can you name some examples of the features that won't work? Also, would it help to do a clean instalation of the stock rom, meaning, is the OTA upgrading process partially guilty of making it slower?
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Its not features that "don't work" in aosp roms (all features work) but that samsungs features aren't there. Only touchwiz roms have them. There are custom touchwiz roms too but as I said, its poor memory management remains which is part of what makes things seem slow
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Please name some. I believe I don't use them. Are you talking about a beam? Or about programs that samsung puts in the rom. Sorry man, I am not understanding what you mean...
Smart stay, dive, swipe screenshot, anything that starts with "s"... Watch any s3 tv advert
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also aosp does not support the mhl hdmi out. that function will probably never work on aosp roms as Samsung mhl port for GT-I9300 is different in its design than standard mhl ports.
Thanks guys for the answer. I guess I will wait for the next update and see if it helps. Don't want to loose all those features.
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Oh and all share cast. There are replacements for that although not sure if it requires new hardware if you have the samsung wifi dongle.
MHL is the big on though (cant believe I forgot it )
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Badelhas said:
Hello there.
I have a i9300 for a year now and I've been doing the official upgrades by wifi, currently with 4.1.2 rom. Problem is I find It slower over time , especially opening contacts and multitasking, the redraw and reopen of programs takes some seconds, which is irritating. I know that having only 1gb of ram dosent help but do you believe doing a clean install would help? Or should I try a custom rom? I would very much love to install a custom rom but I read that some stuff don't work at all with them, is that true or is there one that is flawless that you recommend?
Thanks for the help.
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I would recommend the same for you..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44445193&postcount=5
Thanks for your suggestions. Do those work flawlessly or are there stuff we should worry about?
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Thanks for your suggestions. Do those work flawlessly or are there stuff we should worry about?
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It works flawlessly for me. I really want to stay close to stock so if you are looking for a simple yet smooth stock rom with all junk removed, this rom will work great for you.
And there are no tweaks done that require worrying.
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Try blackbox 1.3 ROM. search it on xda. Not claiming it to be the best rom but it retains Samsung's best features (camera etc) and aosp contacts and dialer and everything. Very fast and stable. Hybrid of Samsung and aosp
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I'm thinking about giving CM11 a try, but worried about some of the stock apps that I will no longer have, specifically anything that makes use of the s-pen. I'm wondering if there are usable replacements for things like S Note, Action Memos, Screen Writing, etc. Also, if anyone has a suggestion for the best replacement for the camera app, since that has a lot of features stock doesn't have
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I'm thinking about giving CM11 a try, but worried about some of the stock apps that I will no longer have, specifically anything that makes use of the s-pen. I'm wondering if there are usable replacements for things like S Note, Action Memos, Screen Writing, etc. Also, if anyone has a suggestion for the best replacement for the camera app, since that has a lot of features stock doesn't have
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In the Play Store, CM S Pen Add-on and Note Buddy (S Pen Helper), for S Pen functionality. Papyrus and/or Memo (by Nathan Garside), for Note taking.
Try this, for a more full featured camera: http://galaxy-note-3.wonderhowto.co...your-galaxy-note-3-0150388/#readsoruce_bottom
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In the Play Store, CM S Pen Add-on and Note Buddy (S Pen Helper), for S Pen functionality. Papyrus and/or Memo (by Nathan Garside), for Note taking.
Try this, for a more full featured camera: http://galaxy-note-3.wonderhowto.co...your-galaxy-note-3-0150388/#readsoruce_bottom
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Thanks, I tend to "collect" camera apps, hadn't heard of this one.
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kingdazy said:
Thanks, I tend to "collect" camera apps, hadn't heard of this one.
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Give it a try, let me know your impressions.
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Give it a try, let me know your impressions.
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Well, the first time I used it, it locked up my phone? (not exactly sure what happened, because I was letting a friend use it to take a pic, he tried and said "Huh? what happened? The screen is off... Wont turn on...". Battery pull. Hasn't happened since...)
But otherwise seems smart, well laid out, responsive, the effects seem well chosen and plentiful... But using 90% of them introduces major viewfinder lag. (most time I don't use effects, perhaps a bit of vignetting, contrast push, so no real loss there.)
Couple of translation oddities in some functions, and the weibo stuff seems superfluous...
All in all, I like it, will play a bit more, not sure if it will be a complete replacement for say Vignette, but might for the stock..
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Well, the first time I used it, it locked up my phone? (not exactly sure what happened, because I was letting a friend use it to take a pic, he tried and said "Huh? what happened? The screen is off... Wont turn on...". Battery pull. Hasn't happened since...)
But otherwise seems smart, well laid out, responsive, the effects seem well chosen and plentiful... But using 90% of them introduces major viewfinder lag. (most time I don't use effects, perhaps a bit of vignetting, contrast push, so no real loss there.)
Couple of translation oddities in some functions, and the weibo stuff seems superfluous...
All in all, I like it, will play a bit more, not sure if it will be a complete replacement for say Vignette, but might for the stock..
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Hmmm, that's interesting. I didn't experience any of those issues, when I was using it. Thanks for the update.
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