DNA vs Maxx HD - HTC Droid DNA

This was a tough decision for me, but today I bit the bullet and got the Maxx hd. I am posting this in the DNA forum because that is the phone I wanted. I truly wanted that phone.
DNA pros, and why I wanted the phone:
Fastest, most efficient processor available.
Best screen available.
I like sense and the dialer it comes with.
Solid cell signal in weak areas (this fact eliminated Samsung for me, but neutral with Motorola)
Reviews say great build quality.
5 inch screen
I prefer the physical buttons rather than on screen
Great camera
$100 less
I like the stock music app
Why I didn't want the Maxx hd:
Old specs
I don't like pentile screens, my eyes notice the little dots
Terrible reviews on the camera
Not a fan of blur
Not updated to 4.1, doubt it will come before the year like they promise
Why I bought the maxx hd:
I travel a lot and am a heavy user, especially when traveling. I figured I would be cussing the battery way more than cussing the screen and camera.
I want an sd slot, or more than 11gb of free space.
I really like the notification light. I frequently work in a conference room with other people and hated the tbolt light, couldn't see it while sitting on my desk. DNA is in the grill too, tho I hear it is easier to see. The one on the back is a waste to me.
Those are my thoughts. Both great phones, tho I am truly bummed. If there was an sd slot and 2500 battery rather than 2020, I would have the DNA tomorrow. If I didn't travel like I do, I probably would have gotten the DNA because the wireless charging would negate the small battery.

I understand that some people need more battery life than the DNA gives, but when flying aren't you able to plug your phone in? (it's been ~10 years since I've flown) If you had to in between flights that would be horrible but I personally wouldn't care much during... well, maybe if I wanted to use the phone landscape since the plug is on the bottom. If you're traveling by car, you can plug it in pretty easily as well. Just my .02. You have a good 2 weeks to decide and there's a lot of cons for the Maxx HD for you.

flaring afro said:
I understand that some people need more battery life than the DNA gives, but when flying aren't you able to plug your phone in? (it's been ~10 years since I've flown) If you had to in between flights that would be horrible but I personally wouldn't care much during... well, maybe if I wanted to use the phone landscape since the plug is on the bottom. If you're traveling by car, you can plug it in pretty easily as well. Just my .02. You have a good 2 weeks to decide and there's a lot of cons for the Maxx HD for you.
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Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.

2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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I'm surprised every seat doesn't have an outlet by now. That's dumb. Guess I forget how lousy airlines are.

flaring afro said:
I'm surprised every seat doesn't have an outlet by now. That's dumb. Guess I forget how lousy airlines are.
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Some overseas flights do. When I went to Dubai earlier this year, I had a plug in, tho there was also a tv for every seat and no internet so no need to use the phone. Lol

2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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Honestly how do you manage to go through a whole battery in a trip.
Assuming you for some reason you only travel with no other electronics except for a phone and refuse to plug it in during the trip, how can you possibly use more than this.
Get to the airport with 100% battery
Use it for maybe a half hour, so you may be at 85% now if you were playing some games for that time
Get on the plane and put it on airplane mode, you may be at 70% by the end of the flight if it was long and you were playing some more games
You have a layover so you eat some lunch, check up on some emails, surf the web for a bit and call your wife and chat for a bit, so your at 60% now
Next flight comes around, put it back in airplane mode, by the end of it your at 45 if you played some more games.
Now your at your destination, but your a half an hour from your hotel but your company loves you and pays for a driver, you play even more games, your now at 25% battery.
Now your at your hotel, you can plug your phone in and watch some TV and never got a battery warning.

2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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why not spend $50 on a really good battery pack rather than an extra $100 for a bit more battery in the phone? I personally carry a small 5600 mAh external battery that cost me $35 as to render battery life a non-issue

2001400ex said:
I travel a lot and am a heavy user, especially when traveling. I figured I would be cussing the battery way more than cussing the screen and camera.
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I If I didn't travel like I do, I probably would have gotten the DNA because the wireless charging would negate the small battery.
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I never understood the travel argument. First all airports have charging ports. 2nd, if you travel that much...why are you using a phone at all? Get a Nexus 7 or dare I say an iPad. Way better battery life and experience for when you fly. No need to use your phone anyway.
However I'm glad you're happy with your choice. Moto is a complete non starter for me these days with Ft Knox bootloaders and I refuse to to be at their mercy for updates.

ML417 said:
why not spend $50 on a really good battery pack rather than an extra $100 for a bit more battery in the phone? I personally carry a small 5600 mAh external battery that cost me $35 as to render battery life a non-issue
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The Razr Maxx HD is only $200 on Amazon - $180 with a new plan. The price of the phone dropped substantially the day after its release. I'd also personally find the battery charger annoying to carry around and plug in and would rather buy a phone with the battery life I need.

Bigandrewgold said:
Honestly how do you manage to go through a whole battery in a trip.
Assuming you for some reason you only travel with no other electronics except for a phone and refuse to plug it in during the trip, how can you possibly use more than this.
Get to the airport with 100% battery
Use it for maybe a half hour, so you may be at 85% now if you were playing some games for that time
Get on the plane and put it on airplane mode, you may be at 70% by the end of the flight if it was long and you were playing some more games
You have a layover so you eat some lunch, check up on some emails, surf the web for a bit and call your wife and chat for a bit, so your at 60% now
Next flight comes around, put it back in airplane mode, by the end of it your at 45 if you played some more games.
Now your at your destination, but your a half an hour from your hotel but your company loves you and pays for a driver, you play even more games, your now at 25% battery.
Now your at your hotel, you can plug your phone in and watch some TV and never got a battery warning.
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Yeah, that is about how it goes, minus the showing up at 100%. My thunderbolt with the 2750 battery sometimes was on its last legs getting home Friday night starting at 90%. I usually have a 3 hour layover Friday nights.
flaring afro said:
The Razr Maxx HD is only $200 on Amazon - $180 with a new plan. The price of the phone dropped substantially the day after its release. I'd also personally find the battery charger annoying to carry around and plug in and would rather buy a phone with the battery life I need.
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Ya but I wanted to keep unlimited and you can't do that thru amazon using the second line trick.
2 other reasons I forgot to mention in my original post is foxfi works in the maxx and voice / data work on 3g. I am often in 3g only areas and talk on the phone while tethered.
My post as in no way bashing the battery life on the DNA. I read pretty much every review it there and the 25 page thread on the DNA on this site. My tbolt got me 4-6 hours of in screen time, I know the maxx is more like 5-7 hours on screen time and the DNA is closer to 3. I am impressed reading about what they have done to increase battery life, it looks like they accomplished a lot since the tbolt and rezound days. And if my wife were looking for a phone, that's the phone I would get her today. And I think the battery works for probably 95% of the users it there. If I have a friend looking for a phone, that's the one I'll recommend.
Just not for me.

I tend to rely on one of those ZaggSparq portable chargers to give the little more unmpf I need to finish the flight or day with my TBolt and expect the same with the DNA.

I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
You have no idea how liberating it is to not have to jump through hoops trying to do everything you can to save battery life. Turning on/off lte, gps, wifi, and airplane mode when it's needed, brightness to minimum, trying to plug in for a minute here and there to get that precious charge.
Anyone that tells others to jump through all those hoops obviously lives and works next to power outlets 24/7 or their life is so dull that they look forward to babysitting their settings like having another child.
A big freaking battery just works. No merry go round swapping of settings or constantly eyeing the battery meter. Put your settings where you want, leave lte on, then just unplug it when you get up then plug it in when you go to bed.
Do i wish i had the guts of the DNA? Of course. Would i give up the huge battery and 48gb of storage for it? Not even if it was free. I will never be chained to an outlet again.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD MAXX using the XDA Developer App

Zodwraith said:
I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
You have no idea how liberating it is to not have to jump through hoops trying to do everything you can to save battery life. Turning on/off lte, gps, wifi, and airplane mode when it's needed, brightness to minimum, trying to plug in for a minute here and there to get that precious charge.
Anyone that tells others to jump through all those hoops obviously lives and works next to power outlets 24/7 or their life is so dull that they look forward to babysitting their settings like having another child.
A big freaking battery just works. No merry go round swapping of settings or constantly eyeing the battery meter. Put your settings where you want, leave lte on, then just unplug it when you get up then plug it in when you go to bed.
Do i wish i had the guts of the DNA? Of course. Would i give up the huge battery and 48gb of storage for it? Not even if it was free. I will never be chained to an outlet again.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD MAXX using the XDA Developer App
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I again agree with all this. I have a rezound and don't babysit my settings unless I'm outdoors and knowing I'm not going to be using it, I'll swap it to 3g only. I use the extended battery and have 7 of them in the house between the wife and I to use (thunderbolt for her, uses same extended). I don't need the battery life, but it is nice to have.
No phone is perfect right now (not even the iphone and its small screen). All of them comprimise something. If there was a perfect phone, it would be a no brainer on what to get, but everyone will have to choose what is best for them. For me, I think I'm going to try a note 2 first, see if the reception issues are a problem for me (live in a big city so hoping not). If it doesn't work for me, then the DNA will be plan B. I survived with the HD7 which was worse for battery life and still only 16gb so I know I can do it.

Zodwraith said:
I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
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While your point is valid, it's also a special use case. Everyone is different and you can't expect everyone to have your lifestyle. I'm not defending OEM choices, but the vast majority of people don't have that kind of situation and you can't expect them to invest extra money into things the majority of people don't need. The beauty of Android is choice. If you found a phone that suits your needs, great. I'm not sure why you feel the need to come here and hate on people giving options to help make their lives easier in different situations. I have spent a great deal of time in my career working in stats and analytics, and some of the most rewarding pieces are showing people who so staunchly "can't believe" this or that exactly how big and different the world is outside their backyard.

I would by a battery pack and wifi drive before I get the Maxx HD. The screen and the S4 Pro processor is reason enough.

zepfloyd said:
I never understood the travel argument. First all airports have charging ports. .
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Are you a member of the Admiral's club or something? I travel a lot and there is a fight to get to an open outlet - often you'll find one on the floor by the window where no seats are. I've been to a couple of airports that have some outlets but for the most part there is about 1 outlet per 100 passengers.

boe said:
Are you a member of the Admiral's club or something? I travel a lot and there is a fight to get to an open outlet - often you'll find one on the floor by the window where no seats are. I've been to a couple of airports that have some outlets but for the most part there is about 1 outlet per 100 passengers.
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Most airports I've been to have those Samsung branded charging stations everywhere. LOL for Admirals club...

Zodwraith said:
I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
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Well said. For many of us, we just want a phone that works reliably for a 24 hour period with normal use. We don't have to buy a thicker battery for it, buy a spare battery for it, buy a car battery and strap it under our shoulder, walk within the radius of an extension cord or only turn our phone on when we have to actually use it or scheduled an incoming call.
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zepfloyd said:
Most airports I've been to have those Samsung branded charging stations everywhere. LOL for Admirals club...
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And how many people at JFK, LaGuardia, OHD, ATL, LAX, DFW etc do you see fighting for access? Do you see one at every gate?

2001400ex said:
Yeah, that is about how it goes, minus the showing up at 100%. My thunderbolt with the 2750 battery sometimes was on its last legs getting home Friday night starting at 90%. I usually have a 3 hour layover Friday nights.
Ya but I wanted to keep unlimited and you can't do that thru amazon using the second line trick.
2 other reasons I forgot to mention in my original post is foxfi works in the maxx and voice / data work on 3g. I am often in 3g only areas and talk on the phone while tethered.
My post as in no way bashing the battery life on the DNA. I read pretty much every review it there and the 25 page thread on the DNA on this site. My tbolt got me 4-6 hours of in screen time, I know the maxx is more like 5-7 hours on screen time and the DNA is closer to 3. I am impressed reading about what they have done to increase battery life, it looks like they accomplished a lot since the tbolt and rezound days. And if my wife were looking for a phone, that's the phone I would get her today. And I think the battery works for probably 95% of the users it there. If I have a friend looking for a phone, that's the one I'll recommend.
Just not for me.
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Many sources have cited that the DNA gets about 4.5 hours of screen on time. Not 3.
Also, how the hell did you get 4-6 hours of screen on time with the Thunderbolt? That has the worst battery/power management I've had of any phone.

trebb said:
Many sources have cited that the DNA gets about 4.5 hours of screen on time. Not 3.
Also, how the hell did you get 4-6 hours of screen on time with the Thunderbolt? That has the worst battery/power management I've had of any phone.
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I had the extended battery that was 2750. After the updates, it got much better battery life and has a good radio.
And from what I understand is the 4.5 hours was unplugging it and 4.5 hours straight. That doesn't translate to unplugging at 6:30 am, screen on for 4.5 hours, then be at 10% at 10:00 at night.
My first day today with the Maxx, I unplugged at 3:00 am, talked on the phone for an hour, and had 5.5 hours on screen time by 9:00 pm when I plugged it in. I was on it playing with settings a lot and reading while I was fixing a computer with its 20 reboots. I am guessing the DNA would have been dead at 3:00 pm. Lol

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bigger battery without the bulge

Hi all, did a search using keyword "batteries" and suprisingly found nothing. Question: Does anyone know of an extended battery that allows you to keep the oem cover? I got a slightly extended for my pro (1800mAh) and it fit great , giving me just enough more juice. My HD arrives this week and I know the battery prolly will have a tough time going a full day. I've seen the usual assortment of super batts that take a custom bulging cover. I'd prefer to avoid the bulge.
Mugen Power makes one but it's been out-of-stock for a while... the easiest solution (at least for me) was to get a second battery.
If it's any consolation, once you go through several charge / deplete cycles with your new battery, you can expect to go through a whole day without much trouble.
Touch HD actually has the best battery life on the PDA market, surpassing even the menacing iPhone by more then 15%!
You can also find very useful apps that will help save the power, such as Lumos, that will automatically adjust your screen brightness depending on ambient lighting. And I can confirm it makes a lot of difference when it comes to battery life.
Also, Mugen sells batteries for HD that have same dimensions as stock battery, but with slightly larger capacity. I bought one for 30$, and I easily go over 3 days with these 2 batteries.
Thanks for the feedback guys. It's great to hear that the HD actually has good battery life using the oem. I know for the first few days or weeks I'll probably be using the crap out of it just because I'll be getting used to it and it will be to awesome to put down I'll see how it goes and maybe check into muygen if they might have something that fits as is, into the back. Really getting hyped about this HD.
You can also consider a power station which slots in the mini usb slot but makes your touch hd longer but you don't get the bulge.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTERY-POWER...0|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1308|301:1|293:1|294:50
You get approx 2.33x the juice.
cortez.i said:
Mugen Power makes one but it's been out-of-stock for a while... the easiest solution (at least for me) was to get a second battery.
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Hmm, that's interesting - I ordered mine about a week ago, they told me they were "out of stock" until the 25th May, but yet they shipped two days after I got that email and I received my 1500mha battery yesterday!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/product_info.php?cPath=108_135&products_id=534
aussiebum said:
Hmm, that's interesting - I ordered mine about a week ago, they told me they were "out of stock" until the 25th May, but yet they shipped two days after I got that email and I received my 1500mha battery yesterday!
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/product_info.php?cPath=108_135&products_id=534
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Just ordered, and mine was out until june 15th!!
Are you satisfied with yours?
I go easily 2-3 days on my HD between recharges and normal usages. A few calls and texts and a spot of internet browsing.
Do you guys watch video's or something to make the battery life so poor?
Well, after using my HD with the oem battery for the past 3 weeks I must say I am very pleasently surprised that it is working very well for me. I can go a full day with usually a bit left over. I am still using it pretty heavily, just because I can't put the dang thing down. Lol. I'm not sure I'd want to pay to much for a 1500mAh as it seems like not enough of an increase in power reserve. I'm happy with the oem.
WeeJockMacFeegle said:
I go easily 2-3 days on my HD between recharges and normal usages. A few calls and texts and a spot of internet browsing.
Do you guys watch video's or something to make the battery life so poor?
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i don't even know how you accomplish that...my screen is turned down to the lowest brightness...the 3g radio is off, i don't use wifi or play music or video...and i get a day to a day & a half @ best.
Never, ever seen 3 days
I ordered a battery from Mugen.
I received it on friday, but the phone will not charge it.
charge light turns on for about 15 sec the shots off.
when looking at the battery status it shows battery unknown.
I have emailed Mugen about this no reply as of yet.
DRTigerlilly said:
i don't even know how you accomplish that...my screen is turned down to the lowest brightness...the 3g radio is off, i don't use wifi or play music or video...and i get a day to a day & a half @ best.
Never, ever seen 3 days
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I charged my HD over night two days ago, so now I'm clocking 2.5 days from last recharge, and it's on 50%. Couple of calls and SMS, 10-15 mins of GPRS internet each day and about 20 mins of GPS in Google maps.
That's the way to do it.
I'm on Dutty's 3.7. I make a few calls, send a few sms's, browse the internet a bit and play a bit of freecell most days. Last time I charged up was Thursday morning, yesterday at 2pm it hit 14%.
Maybe you live a a poor reception area? I've noticed my battery life gets very poor if I'm in the middle of nowhere, far from any cell towers.
I usually listen to internet radio and surf to and from work, make a couple of phone calls, have a couple of mail accounts set up. I usually don't run out of battery on a normal day, but if I have to go somewhere special I might listen to internet radio more and surf more and the battery will run out. And if I play any games, Xtrakt or Need for Speed Under Cover, or watch videos I can kiss the battery good bye.
It's a smart phone, so we use it to do all the cool things that a smart phone enables us to do. Sure its gonna drain the battery more and usually it's worth it, but you can fault us for trying to get more out of our devices
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Just ordered, and mine was out until june 15th!!
Are you satisfied with yours?
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yep - been using the 1500mha Mugen for about 2 wks now and it seems pretty good - on avg. get about 10% more charge remaining at the end of the day vs. the stock battery. Work day = a bit of web surfing via HSPDA / GPRS, a bit of gaming, 1hr or so of music and a couple of SMS's and maybe calls. Usually still have around 60% charge around midnight. I do use S2U2 with Suspend Power = ON option.
I've noticed that Windows Mobile phones (in general not just Touch HD) seem to have really poor battery life in areas with poor / no reception - in these areas, it's best to either switch to flight mode OR force GSM only mode on.

Battery Drain - hardware or software?

First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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It's just something you have to live with
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or maybe not
Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
Callpod Fueltank Duo
http://palmtops.about.com/od/accessoriesperipherials/fr/Callpod-Fueltank-Duo-Review.htm
Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?

Abysmal battery life for those that talk a lot on their Note

Sorry for another battery thread but I went through all 10+ pages of the other one and not a single poster mentioned anything about how horrific the battery life is when using the phone to talk to others.
I had my phone for 4 days so far and this is what's reported in the "About phone"... "Status" log:
Note that the total time on the battery from full charge is 7 hours (remaining life is 32%)
Voice Calls - 52% (ONLY 2 HOURS TALK TIME!!!)
Display - 32% (I use the dimmest setting)
Media Server - 4%
Android System - 3%
Cell Standby - 2%
Android OS - 2%
Messaging - 2%
Gmail - 2%
This includes approx 5 minutes of surfing the web and I played three songs on the native music player. I did nothing else with the phone except text and read/send emails through Gmail.
I'm a heavy phone user and according to the specs I'm seeing (68% discharge with 2 hours of talking)... the phone will be at 0% after ~3 hours of talk time. And Samsung's website states 13.5 hours on 3G and 26 hours (!!!) on 2G. Yes, I understand that manufacturers are infamous for overstating battery expectancy when it comes to talk time but by 300%+? That's just ridiculous.
I'm a very heavy phone user and my line of work sometimes doesn't allow access to convenient power for hours at a time. Coming from a Blackberry, 5-6 hours of talk time was standard... and I rarely had issues with my phone dying prematurely/before the end of a work day. And to make matters worse, the chargers I've used (including the one that came with the phone) barely keeps the phone battery balanced when I'm on a call. In fact, even when plugged in/charging and on a phone call... I noticed a few times that the battery was still being drained!
Today, I purchased the two-pack Hyperion batteries w/charger from Amazon. I'm hoping that the battery I have is defective... because 3 hours of talk time is absolutely unacceptable. I'll report back after receiving and testing the new batteries.
In the meantime, any other heavy talkers having similar battery problems?
Holy crap you can make phone calls on this thing. Finding new features everyday!!!!
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Holy crap you can make phone calls on this thing. Finding new features everyday!!!!
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Lmao
To the op, don't know about anyone else but any previous android phone I've had would loose a ton of battery from a 2 hr phone call or 2 hrs worth of calls thruout the day, so I don't think the note is to blame, if you call that much might want to invest in an extended battery.
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^^ This, any Android phone I've had, this has been par for the course. Hopefully after a week of breaking it in it gets slightly better!
They way I use my phone, if I can get 10 hours from a charge, I'm more than happy. I run my business from my phone. Since Monday, I'm averaging about 9 hours on a charge
Email - 200+
RDP - 30 mins minimum
Spiceworks - all day
SMS/MMS - hundreds
Web - 30 mins minimum
Calls - 2 hours+
GPS - some days yes, some days no, depends on where I have to go
Homerun Battle 3D - 30 mins minimum
Music - headphones any time I'm not talking on the phone
Using about 2.5 - 3 hours screen time. After the first week, I expect to get another hour or two out of it once things settle down and I have no more setup or adjustments to make. Since I use my phone for everything, I carry a car charger and a USB cable everywhere just so I am prepared.
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Holy crap you can make phone calls on this thing. Finding new features everyday!!!!
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I had a similar thought. It took me a while to make a test call to make sure it works. I hate when people call my phone. I usually use voice for emergencies and people who don't text/email.
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Holy crap you can make phone calls on this thing. Finding new features everyday!!!!
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LOL!
Thought the battery life was good, on my old international note. You did mention
you're a heavy talker, plus the LTE radio doesn't help. Buying those extra batteries
should help.
firemedic1343 said:
I had a similar thought. It took me a while to make a test call to make sure it works. I hate when people call my phone. I usually use voice for emergencies and people who don't text/email.
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Plus we all have to admit we do look funny with this thing on side of our faces . But still so so worth it!
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Plus we all have to admit we do look funny with this thing on side of our faces . But still so so worth it!
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Not sure why people keep saying this. I have no idea why people have to look in the mirror to make/take a phone call.
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Not sure why people keep saying this. I have no idea why people have to look in the mirror to make/take a phone call.
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agreed...i think the people with those silly bluetooth thingys hanging off their ear looks funny.
Personally I would rather buy a portable external charger like this, than deal with ripping the back cover off to swap the Note's battery.
http://www.cellphoneshop.net/microusbackup.html?CAWELAID=968304514
Not sure I would get this exact model, getting one with a cord or one you can plug a standard USB cord into might be more useful, then again this is compact.
pj737 said:
Sorry for another battery thread but I went through all 10+ pages of the other one and not a single poster mentioned anything about how horrific the battery life is when using the phone to talk to others.
I had my phone for 4 days so far and this is what's reported in the "About phone"... "Status" log:
Note that the total time on the battery from full charge is 7 hours (remaining life is 32%)
Voice Calls - 52% (ONLY 2 HOURS TALK TIME!!!)
Display - 32% (I use the dimmest setting)
Media Server - 4%
Android System - 3%
Cell Standby - 2%
Android OS - 2%
Messaging - 2%
Gmail - 2%
This includes approx 5 minutes of surfing the web and I played three songs on the native music player. I did nothing else with the phone except text and read/send emails through Gmail.
I'm a heavy phone user and according to the specs I'm seeing (68% discharge with 2 hours of talking)... the phone will be at 0% after ~3 hours of talk time. And Samsung's website states 13.5 hours on 3G and 26 hours (!!!) on 2G. Yes, I understand that manufacturers are infamous for overstating battery expectancy when it comes to talk time but by 300%+? That's just ridiculous.
I'm a very heavy phone user and my line of work sometimes doesn't allow access to convenient power for hours at a time. Coming from a Blackberry, 5-6 hours of talk time was standard... and I rarely had issues with my phone dying prematurely/before the end of a work day. And to make matters worse, the chargers I've used (including the one that came with the phone) barely keeps the phone battery balanced when I'm on a call. In fact, even when plugged in/charging and on a phone call... I noticed a few times that the battery was still being drained!
Today, I purchased the two-pack Hyperion batteries w/charger from Amazon. I'm hoping that the battery I have is defective... because 3 hours of talk time is absolutely unacceptable. I'll report back after receiving and testing the new batteries.
In the meantime, any other heavy talkers having similar battery problems?
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I had at least 2 hours of talk time yesterday, and my call usage was only like 30% and screen was somewhere in the teens.
Just about every phone except for BlackBerry seems to kill the battery when your actually talking on it. My Samsung Focus, Inspire, iPhone and Streak all can't handle phone calls for very long. My Bold was the only phone that could handle a conference call over an hour, but the sacrifice was that callign was the only thing it could actually do well.
Apparently I am one of the only (or at least few) people that actually use their note to talk frequently to others.
Apple advertises 8 hours talk time for their iphones. People get 5-8 hours.
Blackberry advertises 6.5 hours for their Touch phones. I got about 5 hours.
Samsung boasts a 13.5 hour talk time on their Note. I get 3 hours.
I'm surprised there aren't more people disgusted by this blatant false advertising. I was hoping to have a phone that not only lasts me through the day... but through the evening as I often go out after work. And those "13.5-hour" specs got me a bit excited... if I could achieve only half that I would be very pleased. And because this thing charges so painfully slow (about 15%-20% per HOUR of charge) it's impossible to get it rejuvenated for an evening of moderate use after work. Battery swapping will be my only option... and the back cover isn't exactly easy to remove and replace.
As far as I'm concerned, the Note's battery is a huge fail. It's either way too small (mAh) or the phone is incredibly inefficient (or both). Very disappointed.
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And because this thing charges so painfully slow (about 15%-20% per HOUR of charge) it's impossible to get it rejuvenated for an evening of moderate use after work.
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I get 40% per hour, while it is on but not being used. Haven't tried while off yet.
I made around a two hour call last night using a bluetooth headset and I'm pretty sure I only dropped about 20% or so on battery.
That being said, I rarely make calls on my smartphone, so I could care less about talk time.
Battery life has been great overall for me. No complaints here.
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agreed...i think the people with those silly bluetooth thingys hanging off their ear looks funny.
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For me, the ledge above the earpiece cuts into my earlobe. I bought a Jawbone Icon and love it. The noise cancellation kicks all kinds of ass.
Honesty my son uses my note make calls some times and he is 11 and i dont think that it looks funny when he is talking on it.
and as for the battery drain i was on a call for 1.5 hours str8 yesterday and i lost 20 percent...so that means if it were fully charged i would be on par to get 6 plus hours of phone time.
i do have a screen off setting and a call setting that underclocks my phone while talking. so that may help
pj737 said:
Apparently I am one of the only (or at least few) people that actually use their note to talk frequently to others.
Apple advertises 8 hours talk time for their iphones. People get 5-8 hours.
Blackberry advertises 6.5 hours for their Touch phones. I got about 5 hours.
Samsung boasts a 13.5 hour talk time on their Note. I get 3 hours.
I'm surprised there aren't more people disgusted by this blatant false advertising. I was hoping to have a phone that not only lasts me through the day... but through the evening as I often go out after work. And those "13.5-hour" specs got me a bit excited... if I could achieve only half that I would be very pleased. And because this thing charges so painfully slow (about 15%-20% per HOUR of charge) it's impossible to get it rejuvenated for an evening of moderate use after work. Battery swapping will be my only option... and the back cover isn't exactly easy to remove and replace.
As far as I'm concerned, the Note's battery is a huge fail. It's either way too small (mAh) or the phone is incredibly inefficient (or both). Very disappointed.
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So 13.5 on 3G not lte? Also I would imagine that is straight talk time nothing else.... And from the looks of it you use it for more than just talk.... How much screen time is on?

I just called out HTC, asking them to make a premium no-compromise product.

I posted this on HTC's Facebook page:
I just wanted to let you know I've chosen not to get the DROID DNA.
The device has amazing specs, from the high quality screen (SLCD) to the performance (my personal favorite is off screen buttons). However the battery is far too small and will not last an entire work day. Also the amount of storage memory is far too low to be functional. If this device shipped with a 2500 or 3300mAh battery and a microSD card slot, I’d pay full retail for it. For now, I will have to use the Motoroal RAZR MAXX HD.
Please HTC, produce a premium no-compromise product; push it to all carriers and regain the crown of smartphone leader.
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I really want this phone, but almost no usable local storage and a battery that won't make it to 5pm is unacceptable. Please like the comment on their Facebook page. I feel that if HTC actually knew people would pay top dollar for a PREMIUM NO-COMPROMISE phone, they'd actually make it. Imagine a DROID DNA with a 3300mAh battery and 128GB storage or a microSD, with a minimum guarantee of 3 software upgrades. I'd pay $400 on-contract for that. No problem.
Find it, like it.
FACEBOOK LINK.
You people complaining about battery life crack me up. Never even used the device, yet you know it wont make it all day! The one person on the boards that does have it posted that he was on over a day of use with 42% of battery left!! His estimation was 3 hours of screen on time. I'll take that!! So before you cry on Facebook, wait till the phone actually comes out and reviews come in.
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You people complaining about battery life crack me up. Never even used the device, yet you know it wont make it all day! The one person on the boards that does have it posted that he was on over a day of use with 42% of battery left!! His estimation was 3 hours of screen on time. I'll take that!! So before you cry on Facebook, wait till the phone actually comes out and reviews come in.
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There is no possible way that a 2080mAh battery will be able to power that furnace-of-a-display with heavy use all day long.
My RAZR MAXX is down to 20% when I plug in most days. I seriously doubt HTC has pulled out a magical battery bunny.
"There's no replacement for displacement."
dreamliner330 said:
There is no possible way that a 2080mAh battery will be able to power that furnace-of-a-display with heavy use all day long.
My RAZR MAXX is down to 20% when I plug in most days. I seriously doubt HTC has pulled out a magical battery bunny.
"There's no replacement for displacement."
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If once the reviews start coming out stating poor battery life, I'm with ya!!! But until then, hold off. No sense in complaining about something you no nothing about (I don't mean you personally). That's all I'm saying.
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If once the reviews start coming out stating poor battery life, I'm with ya!!! But until then, hold off. No sense in complaining about something you no nothing about (I don't mean you personally). That's all I'm saying.
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So does that mean you'll send me a PM when the result is the MAXX still has better battery life?
Doesn't the Droid DNA have the S4 Pro processor? Doesn't it use less power leading you to have a good amount of battery life even if the battery itself isn't all that big? Just putting that out there...
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I turn wifi off, screen is on (never sleep) and Pandora is running. I post the battery life after battery hits 20%. Does that work for you all or would you like to try something else to?
NorthlandAZ said:
I turn wifi off, screen is on (never sleep) and Pandora is running. I post the battery life after battery hits 20%. Does that work for you all or would you like to try something else to?
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i can post my battery stats tonight when i get home since i have been on 4g since i took it off the charger this morning and cant use wi-fi at work
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I turn wifi off, screen is on (never sleep) and Pandora is running. I post the battery life after battery hits 20%. Does that work for you all or would you like to try something else to?
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Hmm, that'd be interesting to see. I don't Pandora a whole lot, but I do YouTube. Though I wouldn't dream of using YouTube in any quantity over LTE. I'd burn off my data in a few days.
Typical usage for me is ~2 hours of voice calls, 1-2 hours of navigation and screen on about 5 hours or so. I don't work in an office but rely heavily on remaining 'connected' so the phone gets used, heavily.
Reality is I'll probably end up with a DNA at some point, I'm just pissy about the battery and storage. It's pretty pitiful when my brand new smartphone can't replace my 4 year old MP3 player.
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Hmm, that'd be interesting to see. I don't Pandora a whole lot, but I do YouTube. Though I wouldn't dream of using YouTube in any quantity over LTE. I'd burn off my data in a few days.
Typical usage for me is ~2 hours of voice calls, 1-2 hours of navigation and screen on about 5 hours or so.
Reality is I'll probably end up with a DNA at some point, I'm just pissy about the battery and storage. It's pretty pitiful when my brand new smartphone can't replace my 4 year old MP3 player.
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I can do netflix or I have a few HD movies on Google Cloud too. I'll do a hour of Pandora and then start a HD movie if you'll like. Also all my music is on Google cloud.
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I can do netflix or I have a few HD movies on Google Cloud too. I'll do a hour of Pandora and then start a HD movie if you'll like. Also all my music is on Google cloud.
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What I'd really like is to try it myself How do you get so lucky and get to have this phone right now? I'll do whatever it takes. I promise I'll quit crying about battery and memory at once!
S4 Pro + New LCD technology = better energy use. I can't say whether or not the S4/LCD will consume more or less power, but I can say that they'll be more power efficient in comparison to a phone using older tech. 2020mah battery seems decent.
As well, kind of seems strange to me to try and compare the device to the MAXX lines, they're devices created with battery life as a priority, and let's not forget that they weren't created that way at first. In Motorola's marketing strategy it was RAZR first, then the MAXX. Suddenly so many people who had the RAZR needed the MAXX. Moto earned a nice bit of extra profit. Who's to say HTC might not do the same?
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S4 Pro + New LCD technology = better energy use. I can't say whether or not the S4/LCD will consume more or less power, but I can say that they'll be more power efficient in comparison to a phone using older tech. 2020mah battery seems decent.
As well, kind of seems strange to me to try and compare the device to the MAXX lines, they're devices created with battery life as a priority, and let's not forget that they weren't created that way at first. In Motorola's marketing strategy it was RAZR first, then the MAXX. Suddenly so many people who had the RAZR needed the MAXX. Moto earned a nice bit of extra profit. Who's to say HTC might not do the same?
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That's what I'm afraid of. If they release something a little better, DNA+ or something, with bigger battery and memory card slot, I'd be so, so upset. But there are no leaks like that at the moment. And I'd rather not wait 6 months, too.
Another Verizon stepchild. No thanks.
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Its funny to see people complaining about the battery life when they havent used the phone...
Just think this.. The Htc One S has 1650mAh battery and lasts longer than any other normal phone (excluding the MAXX line), so guys please wait unil reviews appear and make your own desicion....thanks
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I fully support your action.
HTC need to listen to their customer. Put replaceble battrey phone into product line.
All this complaining when no one has used the phone is hilarious. Everyone is just ASSUMING they know the battery life will be crap. You don't know what HTC has pulled off since you aren't HTC.
Highlydoubt HTC would sell a phone if it only lasted 2 hours or whatever short amount of time you all expect. If that's the case, they'd make no money off it because everyone would return it.
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You people complaining about battery life crack me up. Never even used the device, yet you know it wont make it all day! The one person on the boards that does have it posted that he was on over a day of use with 42% of battery left!! His estimation was 3 hours of screen on time. I'll take that!! So before you cry on Facebook, wait till the phone actually comes out and reviews come in.
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Right, you believe that then I have a ice cube factory to sell you in Anartica. Come on, I have the SGS3 with a 2100mAh battery running Jelly Bean. The Droid has a 2020mAh battery, over sized display with more pixels than Carter has pills and let's not forget LTE. He may have gotten that phone thru a day without using LTE, no videos and very little use, real use. To me this phone is a no buy, will never buy a top of the line device like that without storage and battery. On top of all this I would bet the phone has a locked down bootloader.
The Note 2 might not have the same quality screen but that doesn't bother me, I like the idea of plenty of storage, great battery, the software is killer, did I say killer, yep and the developers will be all over this phone. The Note 2 is a easy choice over the new Droid.
It's too bad the phone had everything going for it and they cheap out with the parts that cost the least to add to a phone. I would much rather have the phone a little thicker with a larger battery and plenty of int storage. If their not going to give you an sd card then the minimum of int storage should be 32gb. The available storage on the new Droid is probably about 11-12mb. That is a complete fail IMO.
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Just to let you know stop comparing the DNA to the note 2 it is not a phablet. This phone has no features that would make it one. So in theory this is the best large Smartphone on the market.
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Right, you believe that then I have a ice cube factory to sell you in Anartica. Come on, I have the SGS3 with a 2100mAh battery running Jelly Bean. The Droid has a 2020mAh battery, over sized display with more pixels than Carter has pills and let's not forget LTE. He may have gotten that phone thru a day without using LTE, no videos and very little use, real use. To me this phone is a no buy, will never buy a top of the line device like that without storage and battery. On top of all this I would bet the phone has a locked down bootloader.
The Note 2 might not have the same quality screen but that doesn't bother me, I like the idea of plenty of storage, great battery, the software is killer, did I say killer, yep and the developers will be all over this phone. The Note 2 is a easy choice over the new Droid.
It's too bad the phone had everything going for it and they cheap out with the parts that cost the least to add to a phone. I would much rather have the phone a little thicker with a larger battery and plenty of int storage. If their not going to give you an sd card then the minimum of int storage should be 32gb. The available storage on the new Droid is probably about 11-12mb. That is a complete fail IMO.
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One of the people is testing the battery with movies, LTE, and bunch of other crap. He said he'll post the results.
How do you possible think that a 16 GB phone will only allow you 11-12mb of storage? Can you please tell where the remaining 15 GB just vanished off to?

Crappy battery life?

Anyone else experience really crap battery life. I have had this phone barely over a year and now it is down to about 3 to 4 hours of of texting and snap chat and then it is nearly dead. Today it used 30% in an hour and a half. i send 5 texts and 3 snap chats. I am starting to believe the flag ship phones are BS. I do not think I will invest in high end after this. My iPhone SE work phone granted it is a small budget POS and an iPhone but I i leave that that thing off the charger for days at a time and even with all day usage it does not get below 50%.
My next phone all I need is a good camera and ram to load things quicker and a monster battery. Phones like moto G and E and some of the lower end LG and Samsung phones are starting to look more appealing.
I would switch out the battery for a larger but I do not want to change phone backs. The phone is already a giant brink in my pocket, do they make a GOOD higher mah battery that fits the same cover?
My battery life sucks also. I've had the phone about 2 years now and I'm lucky if I can get 5 hours of standby power. and yes I use greenify and Doze. if I use the phone for anything like calls or pictures or surfing, forget it, I'm down to two hours time. Luckilly I keep it plugged in whenever possible.
Ditto. I like this phone ok, but the battery life is terrible. I don't even use it that much during the day, but it won't even make it an entire day without charging. And no root sucks.
If you turn off all the crap that auto-runs, including location when not needed, things will improve greatly. But, you need root to do these things.
yeah, this thing has totally crappy battery life. I am an uber and amazon flex driver, so I use my phone all day, every day. The only reason it doesn't die constantly is I have a charging cable hooked up for it next to my car mount and it gets plugged in every time it is on my dash. Even still, I have to plug it in over night or it will be dead as hell in the morning. I actually have 2 extra batteries for it, but can't use them much because I have no way to charge them outside of the phone, so they are always low. I did just order a chrger base for it that charges my phone and an extra battery at the same time, so hopefully that will help, but this phone is really useless without extra batteries. As a side note, my girl has a cheap cricket lg, also, and hers just barely makes it through the day as well. it hits the low battery warning on her every single night and she only uses it after work. so she gets like 9 hours standby and 2-3 hours use... I kinda think lg just sucks at picking a battery size for their phones or batteries just need a new leap forward...

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