How do we remove the dreading VZW logo off the home button? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

I've read alcohol wipes, penny with tape on it and a sugar cube could work. Any more thoughts? It NEEDS go ASAP. That's the first thing I noticed in the VZW looking at the display.

Acetylene torch should do it

realize that this would take the finish and shine off of it though
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Hydrchloic acid should do the trick.... I recommend at least 8 oz and let it sit over night night
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Lol this is getting out of hand. I predict a locked thread

I'm going to wait until a video tutorial pops up, where I can watch someone perform the action to their device, before I try it on mine. I hate the VZW logo on the button as much as the next person, but I'm not going to risk having a screwed up button over removing the logo.

I don't mind the logo... not really that big of a deal but I seen someone used water mixed with sugar on a rag and wipped it off.

Sugar and water? Wow lol
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Get a button cover

A button cover? Thats white trash as hell lol
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thejron said:
Sugar and water? Wow lol
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Actually, this is the method I have been hearing for a month. You are supposed to tape around the logo and then mix water and sugar until it is pasty. Then you rub the logo off. The sugar acts as sand paper and grinds the logo off.
Now, my experience with hydrochloric acid definitely says for you to not use 8 oz overnight...
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Button covers for the Note
http://www.zoarah.com/celldeco-100-...ticker-for-galaxy-note-silver-pink-white.html

There are also some here http://www.ebay.com/itm/20084803938...eName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649
made in the USA by yours truly.

Yeah I'm wonder about this too. Trying to decide between the DNA and this, and that logo is killing me. I haven't played with either phone yet, but from all the videos/pictures I've seen, the logo is pretty stand out-ish. Yeah the DNA is pretty much Verizon color schemed, but in all honesty, flat black and red looks amazing.
Verizon seriously has some idiots working for them. Whoever thought it was a good idea needs a swift kick in the ass.

lylaqu17 said:
There are also some here http://www.ebay.com/itm/20084803938...eName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1562.l2649
made in the USA by yours truly.
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Just ordered these a lil earlier, does the button stick up a lot more with the sticker on?
tappin from my note ll

Another option:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00AFDUSK4/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1354277737&sr=8-2&pi=SL75

The celldeco aluminum covers are good stuff.
I had a pack of silver ones for my 2 Galaxy 3's & had one left.
I stuck that one on the Note 2 & it looks like it was factory installed.

jmorton10 said:
The celldeco aluminum covers are good stuff.
I had a pack of silver ones for my 2 Galaxy 3's & had one left.
I stuck that one on the Note 2 & it looks like it was factory installed.
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Post a picture of it please

Voids the warranty trust me
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Light sandpaper maybe.
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Related

Sticky? Stuff on my screen

I'm not sure what it is, or if it's like a protectant layer that's wearing off.
But it's only in the lower half of the screen towards the middle.
It covers almost the whole bottom half, it looks like something splattered on it. But I can get it off with anything, I tried water, eyeglass cleaner, and Window cleaner.
It's really annoying I can feel the difference when I try to slide my finger across.
It's all fine when I clean it, it looks perfectly fine. But when I slide my thumb across is shows up.
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Edit..sorry
Didn't mean to hit reply..lol
did you happen to be in the bathroom with a inappropriate picture on the screen?
if so thats where the sticky substance came from... lol
I figured there would be one person...
But no, it's like there's a protective coating onto of the screen and it's like wearing in on area.
It just won't clean off.
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xxquicksh0txx said:
I figured there would be one person...
But no, it's like there's a protective coating onto of the screen and it's like wearing in on area.
It just won't clean off.
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Lmao! Try using rubbing alcohol
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Yeah, I was thinking about it. I'll have to try it later.
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It should lift it as the alcohol evaporates... and I would only recommend alcohol so if any gets in the device it won't hurt it
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It is actually the oil repellent(or something like that) coating, unfortunately, it is irreversible unless you get it painted again I guess, or replace the screen. your best bet is put on a screen protector.
This happened to BOTH of my previous android phones, Acer Liquid (happened really quickly because the screen is not very sensitive), Atrix (device too fast, so I browse the web on it too much so it has worn off too)
Moved on to HTC Amaze, I guess it is just the same, I better put a screen protector on first...
One question though, did you ever use screen protector? Both of my previous devices did, I wonder if they take a thin layer off when you peel them off....
Well I bought my phone used so I'm not sure.
The alcohol didn't work, so I'm pretty sure it's the coating...
Time to get a screen protector.
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Well I can't really tell...
It almost acts like it's coming off, I can't really feel it anymore and I can only see it when I purposefully get my screen dirty. But it looks like something was smeared on it and half of it came off and it's in a hole bunch of little dots and globs.
Is this what yours looked like morris?
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not sure but you might try DRM'ing the phone through tmobile just not sure what their policy is on doing it to a phone you got from someone else . . would think you still could though
Well I bought it used, and I'm on a prepaid plan.
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It's funny because this happened to my phone the first week I got it . It's like a permanent smudge . Thought it was just me . Same exact spot .... Under the settings/back button .
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I think your looking for xxxda-developers.com
kishon120 said:
It's funny because this happened to my phone the first week I got it . It's like a permanent smudge . Thought it was just me . Same exact spot .... Under the settings/back button .
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Yeah, I'm just going to have to buy a screen protector to cover it up. It's perfectly fine when I wipe the screen off, just when I use it it shows up
TramainM said:
I think your looking for xxxda-developers.com
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Someone else already made that joke...
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xxquicksh0txx said:
Yeah, I'm just going to have to buy a screen protector to cover it up. It's perfectly fine when I wipe the screen off, just when I use it it shows up
Someone else already made that joke...
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Oh..... #ThatAwkwardMoment
Haha, but really I'm thinking that my battery was getting really hot or something and it melted it or something. Or some type of chemical reaction between it and all of the oils I have on my hands while I'm at work. I work at a machine shop, and there's always different types of coolant and oil
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White AT&T Note battery cover not fitting?

Does anyone else have this issue? The middle clip on the power side wont clip down properly. I had to trim a tiny bit off the clip hole in the phone to get it to stay down. Even then its still bulges a bit.
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madman604 said:
Does anyone else have this issue? The middle clip on the power side wont clip down properly. I had to trim a tiny bit off the clip hole in the phone to get it to stay down. Even then its still bulges a bit.
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Same problem here,went to Att they say I need to contact Samsung,it feels real uncomfortable with the back cover wiggling
I also have the same problem. I thought I broke the battery door.
Should have got the black one
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Same problem here. Not to bad since I don't change batteries often.
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I have the white one and i dont have that problem
Mine creaks/squeaks but it stays on
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crazzysandman said:
Should have got the black one
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The black what? How about carbon blue? ;-)
My white not sits just fine
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A bit whopping at the middle, non noticeable with case
Petition TIme, new doors for everyone
my white note has no problem. I open and close it daily to replace the battery. It is holding up fine.
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Mine does it too, and Samsung will not replace it under warranty for whatever reason. They want me to pay to replace it, but don't know if the replacement part has the nfc. AT&T offered to replace the phone under warranty as I am well past my 30 days. It just pops off on its own, real annoying.
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corey_r said:
Mine creaks/squeaks but it stays on
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same issue with mine, soo annoying!
Same problem...glad someone made a thread now I know its a known issue...
Doesn't bother me much just makes the phone feel cheap...if I spend 300 bucks on an awesome phone I want the back to clip in lol
Galaxy Note
corey_r said:
Mine creaks/squeaks but it stays on
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this.. and is annoying.
Creaky door here too...
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Mine is OK. But I went out and bought the black hard cover. It looks cool and protects the screen while in transit.
XDA Note
The reason it happens is because you've broken either one or several of the clips on the cover itself. Happens on mine too.
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The reason it happens is because you've broken either one or several of the clips on the cover itself. Happens on mine too.
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No. I have had three notes and 2 out of 3 had the problem and the covers were all fine. It just depends on if you get a solid one.
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Hairline cracks

So i know there is a topic for this but no traffic on it lately. Anyways i just noticed 2 cracks on mine. Has anybody else contacted samsung on this issue.
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In that thread I think they did. I have one too! Crappy dock made one right around the charger so I can't blame Sammy.
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I haven't noticed any yet, knock on, wood.... Mines white and I have had it for about 2 months
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I've got one also right at the charging port....
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Mine is above the speaker and the other is along the right side. Samsung told me its not a known issue. Then they tried troubleshooting it and telling me to remove the battery to see if that fixes it. Lol.
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So you know there is a thread and you started another one anyway? You said no recent traffic... Had you posted there it would have spooled back to the top of the list... Dude, really? /rant
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On my second Note now. I exchanged the first one for a crack about an inch or two below the power button. The replacement has now developed a crack right at the power button.
So Samsung can say whatever they want about it not being a known issue - but it is an issue. Knock on wood ... my Note has never been dropped, I don't sit on it, and it's treated like it's a 5" piece of glass (which it is).
I got 3 cracks actually...one right on top of the speaker, one right where the power button is, and one right underneath the home button. Idk if these are really cosmetic flaws by Sammy...cos then again i ten to drop my phone all the time lol...Ofcourse it's always been in its folio leather wallet case so it shouldn't have hurt it that much.
tyler79durdan said:
So you know there is a thread and you started another one anyway? You said no recent traffic... Had you posted there it would have spooled back to the top of the list... Dude, really? /rant
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Go somewhere else and complain.
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Where are cracks developing? Is it around the edges of the phone that goes all the way around? Did you guys drop it or forced the phone into a dock?
ddochi11 said:
Where are cracks developing? Is it around the edges of the phone that goes all the way around?
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Yes. The thin white trim around the glass.
ddochi11 said:
Did you guys drop it or forced the phone into a dock?
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No. Not on either phone I've had this happen to.
Justinfedor said:
Go somewhere else and complain.
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No, he has a point. If the OP had responded in the thread that was already started, it would be brought to the top of the list, and it would have the same traffic, without creating a useless thread and cluttering up our forums. Especially when he knew there was another thread.
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ddochi11 said:
Where are cracks developing? Is it around the edges of the phone that goes all the way around? Did you guys drop it or forced the phone into a dock?
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My phone has never been dropped or put in a dock. If u look at the phone the crack is between the top of the glass and the silver trim. You will see white trim and thats where mine are
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Its kinda hard to see in the pic but theres one. Top of glass between speaker and sensor
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I have one on back cover which I have noticed it being there since first week. Tried to take pic of back cover but so thin I can't even get my camera to see it. Well it does not bother me so its all good.!
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Its kinda hard to see in the pic but theres one. Top of glass between speaker and sensor
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Just saw the same crack on mine. Sucks.
are you guys sitting down with the phone in your pocket? If it is a little tight, maybe the frame is flexing a bit. I've started taking my phone out of my pocket when I sit down.
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are you guys sitting down with the phone in your pocket? If it is a little tight, maybe the frame is flexing a bit. I've started taking my phone out of my pocket when I sit down.
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Nope. I get the concept that 175 lbs of me is too much for super thin glass to support.
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Its kinda hard to see in the pic but theres one. Top of glass between speaker and sensor
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Mine is on the same spot.
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flintdragon said:
are you guys sitting down with the phone in your pocket? If it is a little tight, maybe the frame is flexing a bit. I've started taking my phone out of my pocket when I sit down.
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Mine is hardly ever in my pocket. I usually carry it around in my hand. Im too cautious with my phone. Never even been tossed....not even on a bed or couch. Always sit it down gentle
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Cracked casing already??

I just noticed on my phone that the whole silver casing on my white S3 is cracking in atleast 10 places. I have not dropped the phone at all and it just started doing this. I took it to sprint and they said they have no idea whats happening so I called customer service and they're sending me a new one.
Sooo has this happened to anyone else?? Look at the sides real carefully and please reply!
Unfortunately, this has been happening with numerous S3s in Europe prior to our US release. No clue there why either.
I checked mine carefully and I have what looks like 4 seams, one in each corner. Almost positive they came with the phone tho.
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falconator said:
I checked mine carefully and I have what looks like 4 seams, one in each corner. Almost positive they came with the phone tho.
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I have the same four seams. Don't see any cracks on my device, luckily. I've been using the pebble blue 16GB S3 since the 21st.
Hmm yeah mine has the 4 seams as well. Are all of yall's the blue version?? Mine is white but i doubt that makes a difference.
Mine is white too. Hopefully you can get a replacement soon and the rest of us don't develop this problem
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Can someone please post a picture of these seams?
Thanks..
Seam is kinda hard to see in the first picture.
Second is of the actual cracking
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0005.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0006.jpg
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I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
Seam is kinda hard to see in the first picture.
Second is of the actual cracking
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0005.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0006.jpg
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Holy Hell.. well can't argue Samsung isn't using cheap plastic build quality. I thought they were on top of it. The sgs3 seems so Damn fragile with the weaker screen and plastic compared to my s2.
It's like pick your poison. Get an s3 that has great specs and software/hardware enhancements but it'll crumble in your hands.
Or evo that has great specs and camera but it has sense 4, resource hungry and will die without warning.
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Ain't that the truth. Atleast I'm getting a new one for free so no big deal right now.
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Thanks for the pictures! This is certainly something to think about now, given that its not just an isolated case.
Hmm, interesting indeed! :what:
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Seam is kinda hard to see in the first picture.
Second is of the actual cracking
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0005.jpg
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Wow, almost seems like the phone was bent or something.
Did you sit on it?
It also could be thermal expansion issues. Did your phone ever get excessively hot?
I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
Seam is kinda hard to see in the first picture.
Second is of the actual cracking
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76768873/IMG-20120625-WA0005.jpg
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I have a blue with 4 seams. That 2nd picture with the cracks is crazy. I remember when the first Nexus came out this was happening and Google said not to put your phone in your pocket. Maybe no more skinny jeans for you.
Jeez, found the first thing about the phone to make me think twice. Still getting it though.
lopezpm said:
I have a blue with 4 seams. That 2nd picture with the cracks is crazy. I remember when the first Nexus came out this was happening and Google said not to put your phone in your pocket. Maybe no more skinny jeans for you.
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yea i have the 16g blue and it looks like cracks /seams on all 4 corners, are yours in the corners also? i haven't dropped it or I don't use skinny jeans lol so maybe that's how they made them?
The 1st thing i did out of the package was inspect the blue S3 and automatically noticed those 4 seems however I just took it as that's how is was manufactured and not a defect.
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The 1st thing i did out of the package was inspect the blue S3 and automatically noticed those 4 seems however I just took it as that's how is was manufactured and not a defect.
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Yea I'm sure that's what it is
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Tired of magic and other unexplained phenomenon.

So today I was outside with the kids while they were running around the yard fighting eachother with sticks. My phone rang. I pulled it out of my pocket and dropped it on my porch. My otterbox defender protected my phone as advertised, but, upon impact my s pen shot out of my phone and over the side of the porch.
I immediately jumped over the side of the porch to retrieve it. (My knee still hurts) I haven't seen it since. I am convinced that when I dropped the phone it opened up a wormhole and sent my unsuspecting stylus to another dimension. I've been looking for it for 4 hours. I don't have tall grass or anything else for it to hide in. I've found all kinds of things on the side of my house but not the sizeable white and silver s pen. I even looked on the gutter drain to make sure it didn't stick in the side or something weird.
I wish there was an app that could help me. But alas, there is not.
Sad day... sad day indeed.
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Charlie the squirrel thanks you for giving away your stylus. Now he can get his important squirrel business done.
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They're pretty damn expensive to replace too.
This might sound extreme and can and likely will backfire....but, maybe try and replicate the event by throwing one of the children over the side where the S pen launched. This way you may not only get the S pen back, but hopefully the child will remember important details of their travels and not just get back the important stylus but also help with advances in time travel.
Or they might just land on their head and call child protective services.
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This might sound extreme and can and likely will backfire....but, maybe try and replicate the event by throwing one of the children over the side where the S pen launched. This way you may not only get the S pen back, but hopefully the child will remember important details of their travels and not just get back the important stylus but also help with advances in time travel.
Or they might just land on their head and call child protective services.
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Lololol. Wrong but it made me giggle.
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DroidOnRoids said:
Lololol. Wrong but it made me giggle.
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Lol, come on man, seems like a legit plan. For science!
JBeXX said:
This might sound extreme and can and likely will backfire....but, maybe try and replicate the event by throwing one of the children over the side where the S pen launched. This way you may not only get the S pen back, but hopefully the child will remember important details of their travels and not just get back the important stylus but also help with advances in time travel.
Or they might just land on their head and call child protective services.
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Video please...for science.
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They're pretty damn expensive to replace too.
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joke?
they are pretty cheap if you use a 50% coupon which are readily available.
Was it not in all the way? Seems like that would be the last thing to fall out from a fall. Or maybe you dropped it somewhere else and just didnt realize it till you dropped it?
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Was it not in all the way? Seems like that would be the last thing to fall out from a fall. Or maybe you dropped it somewhere else and just didnt realize it till you dropped it?
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lol, it is the first thing that pops out. i've dropped it on carpet from 3 ft high and the pen shoots out.
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Was it not in all the way? Seems like that would be the last thing to fall out from a fall. Or maybe you dropped it somewhere else and just didnt realize it till you dropped it?
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I always put it in all the way...
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First day I had my otterbox on i dropped the phone in a restaurant with that non slip tile. Dropped it from waist height and it hit so hard it chipped the plastic part of the otterbox (under the silicone, but phone is fine.) However! My pen shot literally halfway across the restaurant. I'm pretty sure Samsung put emergency eject technology in our phones, much the same as jets. They can say it's for the safety of our pens, but at ~30 bucks a pop, we know better. Well played, Samsung.
Also, the post above me
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1ManWolfePack said:
I always put it in all the way...
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Must be easy when you've got the miniature version
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nosympathy said:
Must be easy when you've got the miniature version
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I'm talking bout the 10.1, my dude. Lol.
1ManWolfePack said:
I'm talking bout the 10.1, my dude. Lol.
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Its not about the size, it's about how you use it
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I'm talking bout the 10.1, my dude. Lol.
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10.1 Centimeter edition? Lol
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Would a large fridge magnet on a stick pick up the stylus, a la metal detector?
Isn't there a setting that warns you when you accidently walk away from your stylus? How far away does it work? Could it be used as a Geiger counter?
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k9cop said:
Isn't there a setting that warns you when you accidently walk away from your stylus? How far away does it work? Could it be used as a Geiger counter?
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That setting is based on detecting steps taken while the stylus is out. It doesn't pick up the pen itself.
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Im not sure how your deck was built, but could it have fell through tge space between two planks and went underneath? Just a thought
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