Reception - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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pyaa said:
For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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Let people use it for a while. They haven't even had for more than 12 hours.

computingwarren said:
Let people use it for a while. They haven't even had for more than 12 hours.
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Well, technically it shouldn't take more than a few seconds. Put the phones in the same spot, and check the signal strength in dBm.

I agree, those that have it the rest of the world is dying to know!
How is the signal? Is it the same radio that's in the GS3?
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Curious to know from those who upgraded from HTC Thunderbolt with frequent LTE disconnects if the issue remains, which points to network issue, or eliminated but it'll probably require at least a week to confirm.

Coming from GNex, plz let it be better then that :fingers-crossed:

I'd like to think it is slightly better because the size of the device means the antenna can be farther from anything that will cause noise or something. Guess we'll find out tomorrow.

IamPro said:
Coming from GNex, plz let it be better then that :fingers-crossed:
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I really hope it's got a better radio than the GNex. I've been limping along with that thing for the last year. I'll go from a 20 megabit connection to no data without even moving locations.
I kind of hated ordering the Note2 blind, but I've been waiting for a note to arrive on verizon since the note1 came out. If the radio is lousy, well at least I can draw with it.
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another curious verizon customer. Been on htc devices since joining verizon and samsung's cdma woes are well documented. I want the note 2, but need reception.

pyaa said:
For those of you have it already how's the reception? Is it any better then the s3?
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Much better than the GS3 I had, even when I was using all the different types of radios that were available.
Data connection is faster too. Most likely as a result of NOT using a piece of $hit snapdragon SOC.
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mzahiri said:
Much better than the GS3 I had, even when I was using all the different types of radios that were available.
Data connection is faster too. Most likely as a result of NOT using a piece of $hit snapdragon SOC.
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I think my rezound has a snapdragon SOC, and it has no problems with reception or data speeds. Get up to 40 down and 15 up on it.
Samsung has a history of bad radios on Verizon. It's really the only potential negative of this device.

nrfitchett4 said:
I think my rezound has a snapdragon SOC, and it has no problems with reception or data speeds. Get up to 40 down and 15 up on it.
Samsung has a history of bad radios on Verizon. It's really the only potential negative of this device.
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great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it

mi7chy said:
Curious to know from those who upgraded from HTC Thunderbolt with frequent LTE disconnects if the issue remains, which points to network issue, or eliminated but it'll probably require at least a week to confirm.
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Well I upgraded to the DNA and I haven't had a single data drop, unlike my Thunderbolt which had them several times a day.

BlueHarford said:
great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it
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cool, going to head over to verizon store and play with it and dna and look at signal strengths. I only get 1-2 bars in the hospital so if its worse, I might not have signal.

The rezound had good 4g reception but average 3g reception; the galaxy s3 had good 4g reception and below average 3g reception. Anyways I hope folks provide good feedback and 4g, 3g and cellular reception for the note. Very interested in this phone (though it is bigger than I would like). To be honest I would go with the DNA if it had a large battery. Don't take me wrong I think the note has a lot of nice unique feature I just wish it was a bit narrower.
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great reception. i also think this has to do with no only better hardware but more landscape inside the phone offers better attenna replacement.
over all phone is awesome, im having no issue one handing it
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i have my galaxy nexus and my note 2 side by side and signal strength is the same with a slight edge to the note 2. I am looking at the signal strength in options and not the bars.

I have notes 2 and DNA side by side at the possibly worst corner in terms of cell signal.
Note 2 is extremely unstable. keep on switching between LTE to 3G to no signal (the round circle with a cross over the center. usual stop sign)
while DNA has a full bars for CALL. and 1x for data. It is slow, but it is stable and usable.
SHAME ON YOU SAMSUNG. Why put such a stupid radio chip on such a good device otherwise.

randpost said:
i have my galaxy nexus and my note 2 side by side and signal strength is the same with a slight edge to the note 2. I am looking at the signal strength in options and not the bars.
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Only matters when you are in weak signal areas. If you're seeing -70 to -80 DBMS or lower you're in a decent area. What the Gnex couldn't handle was the weaker areas. Where my rezound was -85 or so the Gnex was -100 or worse. I'll post something when I get back to my office. I'll do a compare and post it. If the Note 2 is anything like the Gnex it will end up the same way with me. Returned! I don't care how cool the phone is.
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jiwengang said:
I have notes 2 and DNA side by side at the possibly worst corner in terms of cell signal.
Note 2 is extremely unstable. keep on switching between LTE to 3G to no signal (the round circle with a cross over the center. usual stop sign)
while DNA has a full bars for CALL. and 1x for data. It is slow, but it is stable and usable.
SHAME ON YOU SAMSUNG. Why put such a stupid radio chip on such a good device otherwise.
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Not what I wanted to hear
Do you have dBm readings that you could post for a comparison? The data switching between 1x, 3G, and 4G could be fixed in an update hopefully.

geoff5093 said:
Not what I wanted to hear
Do you have dBm readings that you could post for a comparison? The data switching between 1x, 3G, and 4G could be fixed in an update hopefully.
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the dbm on N2 was jumping from -120 to -98 to -75 and the data connection is ON and OFF. That is frustrating.
My location (my cubicle) here now is like a stress test case in terms of cellphone cell strength in a weaker environment.
IN good coverage, everyone is happy. Both phones are -75dbm and stable.
In weaker ones, N2 can't hold on to a data connection.
I really want to love it, but in this checkbox, there is no competition.
It does perform well in battery category tho.
And by the way, refer to your other post, the screen is not brighter than DNA screen. even put to full brightness. It is just so pathetic putting them side by side to compare.
I will continue test until this evening. If the data connection weakness is confirmed, I have to take N2 back to store. I feel it will make my wife crazy to see me carrying both giant 5 inch phones each costing more than 600 USD combining all costs...

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Signal speculation

Hope it has improved signal over the S3 and no dreaded Message Not Sent when I in full 3g/4g coverage..
I'm hoping the global radio in the Note 2 is outstanding... as this maybe my next phone.
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Its Samsung so I'm sure the signal will still be lacking compared to moto and HTC. I hope they figured it out as this looks like an awesome phone. Going to wait and see how it ends up before buying.
It probably won't be as good as a Moto phone, however, it may be similar to HTC phones and other Samsung phones. And for anyone saying HTC has a much better signal than Samsung, I've had 3 Samsung phones now, and I have had service places that a DInc2 showed service but couldn't do anything, and have also had reported signal as good as other HTC phones in the same location. I would imagine that the service on the Note 2 would be similar to the SGS3 on VZW.
Agreed hope its improved over the S3
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It probably won't be as good as a Moto phone, however, it may be similar to HTC phones and other Samsung phones. And for anyone saying HTC has a much better signal than Samsung, I've had 3 Samsung phones now, and I have had service places that a DInc2 showed service but couldn't do anything, and have also had reported signal as good as other HTC phones in the same location. I would imagine that the service on the Note 2 would be similar to the SGS3 on VZW.
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You're all over the note 2 forums imnuts! Does this mean you will be picking one up? :thumbup:
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magneticzero said:
Hope it has improved signal over the S3 and no dreaded Message Not Sent when I in full 3g/4g coverage..
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I've never had a problem with by reception at all. I usually always have full bars on 4g if not 3 bars
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I've never had a problem with by reception at all. I usually always have full bars on 4g if not 3 bars
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Same here. I've been incredibly surprised by the good reception I've had with the S3. It's not quite up to Motorola standards, but it's pretty close to HTC and much better than any other Samsung phone I've had on Verizon. My only complaint has been that it tends to stick with 3G in weak 4G areas more than my recent devices from Motorola and HTC. But I'm guessing that was done on purpose in an attempt to avoid drops when switching back and forth.
I'm always hoping for an improvement, but if the reception is as good as the reception on the S3 has been for me, I'll be happy.
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You're all over the note 2 forums imnuts! Does this mean you will be picking one up? :thumbup:
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I have three stipulations, but it pretty much all hinges on one, and that is the phone must be unlocked. Without that, I don't really care about to much else.
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I have three stipulations, but it pretty much all hinges on one, and that is the phone must be unlocked. Without that, I don't really care about to much else.
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All other Verizon LTE devices with global capabilities have been unlocked for GSM use, as well as for LTE use (although Verizon's LTE bands aren't widely used). I'd expect the Note 2 will be the same.
Anyone knows of a review or reviews comparing Samsung radio receiver sensitivity?
I had never found one, it seems like reviews are written by by newbie reviewers with master degree in English, Communication, or Comp-sci. None of them ever worked with front end radio receivers even just for once in their whole life and completely ignorant of them.
This is a huge problem that I have with my GSIII, I get terrible reception, I'm currently living in the country and my friends with the RAZR Maxx get 4g while I can barely hold onto 3g and going into the basement is absolutely zero service. It's terrible. I had better reception with my Galaxy Nexus than I do with the GSIII. I wish something could be done.
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This is a huge problem that I have with my GSIII, I get terrible reception, I'm currently living in the country and my friends with the RAZR Maxx get 4g while I can barely hold onto 3g and going into the basement is absolutely zero service. It's terrible. I had better reception with my Galaxy Nexus than I do with the GSIII. I wish something could be done.
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Sounds like you have a defective unit as I haven't heard of anyone that got worse reception with the SGS3 than they did with the Galaxy Nexus.
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Sounds like you have a defective unit as I haven't heard of anyone that got worse reception with the SGS3 than they did with the Galaxy Nexus.
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Unfortunately, I bought the phone from a friend, he bought it and decided he preferred Motorola phones, so I got it cheap. Not sure if Samsung would still honor the warranty or not? And yes, I got way better signal with the Nexus in generally every place I frequently go, much more consistent. That's my ultimate worry about the Note II, if it's just like the GSIII then I'm not sure I want it.
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Unfortunately, I bought the phone from a friend, he bought it and decided he preferred Motorola phones, so I got it cheap. Not sure if Samsung would still honor the warranty or not? And yes, I got way better signal with the Nexus in generally every place I frequently go, much more consistent. That's my ultimate worry about the Note II, if it's just like the GSIII then I'm not sure I want it.
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Why do you think your friend sold it cheap..ha ha jk. Sounds like a defective one. Or you may need a new SIM card. Sg3 signal is much better than gnex. Good luck
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Unfortunately, I bought the phone from a friend, he bought it and decided he preferred Motorola phones, so I got it cheap. Not sure if Samsung would still honor the warranty or not? And yes, I got way better signal with the Nexus in generally every place I frequently go, much more consistent. That's my ultimate worry about the Note II, if it's just like the GSIII then I'm not sure I want it.
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I also wanted the new Samsung note mainly for the screensize and I also noted the problems you encountered which is very common with Samsung phones.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/11
"In addition, Samsung makes the mistake of going with a signal bar visualization with very compressed dynamic range. Since the whole iPhone 4 debacle, I’ve seen something of a trend towards a strict linear scale (which makes more sense), but SGS2 definitely doesn’t go that route. It’s not a huge deal however, just something to be aware of. I’m willing to overlook that issue considering that getting the real story on connectivity is no harder than dialing *#0011# and looking at the real number."
The quoted note above meant the the reviewer had little experience with signal processing and didn't know typical "compressed dynamic range" signal processing usage.
In the last 30+ years "compressed dynamic range" signal processing is use to bring actual usable dynamic range above spurious background noise for processing. ie, typical hacks avoiding the problematic spurious background noise instead of fixing unwanted spurious background noise problems causing lack of sufficient signal sensitivity.

Anyone else see the Droid Life review?

Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
I saw it, and though meh on the 4G drop. It could have easily been in his area. Of all the reviews I've seen he was the only one to have that issue. I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
As much as I want to jump on this phone, the only issue I seem to have now is storage space. It's this or the GN2. I still don't know?
8192 on Quads! Thanks sick!
Damn it when will Wednesday get here??!??!!!?!?!!
I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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I actually experience the 3g/4g drop often on my galaxy nexus and I live in the bay area. Definitely sucks my battery to oblivion. Since HTC is said to make better radios I hope the drops would be less frequent.
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I wouldn't worry about it, when I got the GNex I my thunderbolt up and running for a couple days and the radios are noticeably stronger and more stable on the Thunderbolt. Side by side I'd get solid 4g on the bolt where the GNex was spotty at best. My house isn't the in the strongest 4g area, but the Tbolt wouldn't drop off the signal no matter where in my home I was. The GNex I get 4g outside or by windows and that's it, with 3g speeds. The tbolt would pull a solid 12-15up 3-5down sitting right next to it.
Not to mention the GNex isn't exactly known for its radios.
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Droid Life came out with a full review today. The battery life is quite good according to them (average life of 21 hours), but surprisingly he reported some 4G drop issues and said the camera wasn't that great. I'm hoping the signal was just a fluke, but it seems to be since other big reviewers have said it's top notch.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/19/htc-droid-dna-review/
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas:
I constantly found the device dropping back to 3G, even when other devices were maintaining a 4G connection, albeit a poor one at that.
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This is something that is done on purpose in order to maintain a more reliable connection without as many actual drops when switching between 3G and 4G. With my Rezound, Galaxy Nexus, and RAZR MAXX, when I would be out on the edge of a 4G area, the phone would jump back and forth between 3G and 4G, resulting in actual drops in service and a drain on the battery. My S3 does what the DNA does - opts to stick with 3G in weak 4G areas. The result is a far more stable connection with less drops in service and much less battery drain.
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The review doesn't talk about any drops in the traditional sense, but rather that the phone was "dropping back" to 3G in weak 4G areas
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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I also thought the photo samples he had were really not as bad as he described them to be either.
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I thought the pictures looked great, but I'm also comparing them to my 2.5 year old Incredible so pretty much any high end phone, besides maybe Motorolas, will look great to me lol
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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man i really hope there will be a way you can disable 4G whenever you want. that'd be so useful if i needed to conserve battery and i'm in a spotty 4G area
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Yeah, that's what I meant. Only dropping down from 4G. He said that you can't disable 4G though, but I'm guessing there will be a non-stock way of doing it.
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Pretty much every LTE phone released on Verizon over the past several months hasn't had the option to disable LTE in the stock settings. Even some phones that used to have the option have had it removed in updates (such as the RAZR and RAZR MAXX). But with all of these phones, there have been ways of putting the phone into 3G only mode without root via an app or through settings that can be accessed through the phone's dialer.

HTC One - poor LTE reception

I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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SurrealNetworks said:
I very much wanted to love this phone. Having been an HTC user for the longest time, I begrudgingly switched to a Note 2 last year. Why "begrudgingly", you ask? I'm a bit superficial when it comes to my phones and I'm not a fan of the plastic bodies used by Samsung. The HTC One, as you know, has an amazing build quality and, when you hold the phone, you get a sense of the premium materials used in its construction. The screen clarity is tops and the speakers sound quite good. I love nearly everything about this phone but I just ordered a plastic-laden Galaxy S4, due to issues with LTE reception one the One. Upon purchase, I noticed right away that this phone shows 1-2 fewer bars of LTE signal, everywhere, when compared to my Note 2. I figured it was just the graphical representation of signal strength that was off but then I noticed that the One spent far more time on HSPA than the note 2. Using G Net Track, I observed RSSI readings ~20dBm lower than my Note 2. These observations were made over time, with the phone stationary on my desk. The signal strength indicator and the RSSI readings confirmed that the HTC One I purchased suffers from poor LTE reception. I'm quite irritated that HTC missed with this device; I was very much hoping they would hit a home run with the One.
Has anyone else noticed LTE reception problems with their phone?
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I have One, Nexus 4, iPhone 5, they all have the exact signal level at any given location. Unless you're blocking the antenna causing attenuation.
Also, you should be monitoring RSRP and RSRQ. Not RSSI if you're on LTE. Get SignalCheck Pro and do some testing.
When I moved I stopped in Kansas City (one of T-Mobile's LTE markets) and I had no problems with LTE reception.
Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Even with 2 bars on LTE. My speed is excellent.
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Have you ever seen full LTE signal on your One? In areas where my Note 2 had four bars, my One has only two. Maybe I just received a lemon and an exchange will remedy the issue.
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I have amazing 4g coverage I'm on tmobile I came from Verizon I am currently in south fl might be your area ? This might be a stretch but it feels like I have better 4g coverage on tmobile or it could just be that I love the phone
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The HSPA+ signal strength of my One appears to be equal to that of my Note 2.
I get full LTE bars in Santa Clara, CA
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I get full bars in Vegas when in the lte areas
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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That's pretty much what I'm experiencing. I have a Galaxy S4 arriving tomorrow - I'll be sure to take networks measurements on both devices to compare performance of the two.
rschauby said:
I'm a bit concerned as well about LTE signal strength. I'm on only a single signal bar 90% of the time. I've only seen up to 3 bars only once. My speeds seem okay though, I am hitting 30mb down with only the 1 signal bar. My main concern is battery drain due to the weak signal.
I get awesome HSPA signal though, full bars almost everywhere. I'm tempted to just turn LTE off as HSPA speed here is still awesome.
BTW, I am in the Phoenix/Tempe market.
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Same market, same signal as you. I think it's our coverage area though as I watch signal when I'm driving around the valley a lot and it def hits 4 or 5 bars of lte....but only right up against the towers....regardless I get great speeds though
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
If when mine arrives here in Taipei it shows lower bars I will take it in personally to their HTC office here in Taipei and ***** about it. Will try same SIM card in different smartphones to show differences If needed but will need to test first.
I don't quite understand what standard is to be expected. Is anything less of 30mb down on a cell phone really that unacceptable? I suppose it's reasonable if you're using hotspot for a laptop, but are we just talking about apps downloading data?
It might be that HTC didn't do well with function over form with the One in terms of signal reception. But I guess this may be the sacrifice you'll have to make.
Have you guys run speed tests rather than judging by signal bars alone? I've found that although my One displays two bars at my gym for "4g", I get completely crap signal, and can barely send out a Google voice text.. I've yet to run a speed test to see what exactly I'm getting in terms of d/u speeds.
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I have just received my HTC One yesterday. LTE is limited where I am, but when I have reached an area where LTE was available, I had full bars on mine. This was in Cupertino, CA.
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I'm also in kansas City and my note 2 was picking far better lte I'd say than the One.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
I will be just happy when LTE actually goes live in my city. My HSPA+ speeds are really good. I just did a speedtest and go 18Mbps on my One and 13Mbps on my S4.
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That was my experience, going from a Note 2 to the One. I returned the One and picked up an S4 - much better LTE service. I did a side by side evaluation of LTE performance on the One vs the S4. Using the Speedtest.net app, I was consistently pulling 13Mbps using the One. I placed my SIM card into the S4 and consistently pulled 23Mbps. I switched the SIM back to the One and couldn't break 14Mbps. Yes, I selected the same server on both phones. Sadly, the One appears to have LTE issues.
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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I'm assuming you are using a T-Mobile One, not a different one like the dev edition, and are on T-Mobile LTE?
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That is correct. Both phones were displaying "4g LTE" during the tests.

Lackluster radio performance?

So I've been using the Galaxy S4 for a little over 3 weeks. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt which was rooted and updated with its radios.
I travel a lot for work and go to the same locations (different days) every now and then. I've noticed that I lose my 4G connection and go to 3G when I USED TO have a 4G connection at the same site with my Thunderbolt. Has anyone noticed this occuring with their S4?
I feel like I'm not getting the signals I'm supposed to be getting.
I had a Razr HD before the s4 that i have now and the HD was known for its very good radios. To my surprise, the S4's radios are on par or even better than the Hd
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I had a Razr HD before the s4 that i have now and the HD was known for its very good radios. To my surprise, the S4's radios are on par or even better than the Hd
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I came from Mot Razr Maxx...worrying most about radio performance in buying the S4. The S4 does better in every regard......contrary to my old samsung phone experience (very old). I live in a fringe area with 1 bar or so.....on both phones. The S4 holds on to calls very well too.
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So I've been using the Galaxy S4 for a little over 3 weeks. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt which was rooted and updated with its radios.
I travel a lot for work and go to the same locations (different days) every now and then. I've noticed that I lose my 4G connection and go to 3G when I USED TO have a 4G connection at the same site with my Thunderbolt. Has anyone noticed this occuring with their S4?
I feel like I'm not getting the signals I'm supposed to be getting.
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yes!!!! i came from a gnexus and then an iphone 5, and ive noticed that the radios arent as good. I was also able to customize the radios on the nexus the way i wanted to for 3g and 4g... but it seems to be worse on the galaxy s4
i dont know if radios came out for the GS3, but im hoping that with time, some will come out for this thing... and not the fm radios that i keep seeing
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jt25741 said:
I came from Mot Razr Maxx...worrying most about radio performance in buying the S4. The S4 does better in every regard......contrary to my old samsung phone experience (very old). I live in a fringe area with 1 bar or so.....on both phones. The S4 holds on to calls very well too.
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It could be carrier specific.....for VZW this has been my experience.
jt25741 said:
It could be carrier specific.....for VZW this has been my experience.
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ehh, ive been on verizon for over 15 years.... and at my specific work for 7 years. I'd say i got the best cell signal with the iphone 5 (dont shoot me), but the gnexus is a close second.
i work in the middle of my building where there is barely any signal, so i kind of know what its like to move the phone an arm length up and finally send a text
theidoctor said:
ehh, ive been on verizon for over 15 years.... and at my specific work for 7 years. I'd say i got the best cell signal with the iphone 5 (dont shoot me), but the gnexus is a close second.
i work in the middle of my building where there is barely any signal, so i kind of know what its like to move the phone an arm length up and finally send a text
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Interesting.....good to know. I guess this means these Motorola phones really didn't have good RF performance after all (despite reputation).....compared to iPhone etc.... All is relative I guess -- LoL
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Interesting.....good to know. I guess this means these Motorola phones really didn't have good RF performance after all (despite reputation).....compared to iPhone etc.... All is relative I guess -- LoL
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hahaha... not compared completely to iphone. I mean, in all honesty, i was able to get that one text message without having to worry; but noticed it when my messages weren't going through.
ON the other hand, my friend with a motorola can get a text message the next seat over which is only an armlength away
I had a thunderbolt, an it would always show 4g until I went to use it, then I would get no connection, and eventually it would drop to 3g. I think this phone just hands of the connection faster and smoother than the thunderbolt, and thats what you're seeing.
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I had a thunderbolt, an it would always show 4g until I went to use it, then I would get no connection, and eventually it would drop to 3g. I think this phone just hands of the connection faster and smoother than the thunderbolt, and thats what you're seeing.
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This was also the case for me sometimes with the Thunderbolt. But then again, most of the time I was showing 4G at most locations.
I've seen just the opposite, I've got the S4 and my wife has the Razr Maxx, and she's usually got one to two bars better then I do. It's pretty often when in a building I get bumped down to 3G but the Razr is still hanging on to one or two bars 4G. I haven't been too surprised as this is almost exactly the same signals as what I was seeing with my Galaxy Nexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2322975
I get significantly better signal with the S4 than I did with the S3. In my house, I can have great phone calls and decent 4G data speed on the S4 (2 bars). On the S3, I had slow speed on 4G and an occasional breakup on phone calls (1 bar). On the Galaxy Nexus, it couldn't connect to the phone network at all from inside the house (x on the signal strength)... A friends RAZR MAXX gets 2 bars and has the same performance as the S4. My bosses Note 2 gets the same experience as my S4...
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I get significantly better signal with the S4 than I did with the S3. In my house, I can have great phone calls and decent 4G data speed on the S4 (2 bars). On the S3, I had slow speed on 4G and an occasional breakup on phone calls (1 bar). On the Galaxy Nexus, it couldn't connect to the phone network at all from inside the house (x on the signal strength)... A friends RAZR MAXX gets 2 bars and has the same performance as the S4. My bosses Note 2 gets the same experience as my S4...
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I had an S3 also and while at work I would lose 4G all the time. With my S4 I have never lost 4G at work.
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Lte connectivity strength vs g2

I'm thinking of giving my wife my lg g2 and getting the one Max.
From what I know, they are both triband phones so is it safe to assume where ever I get lte on my g2, I will get the same on the Max?
I'm having size envy so really want the Max! Blink feed is awesome as well.
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I don't live in an lte area but when I had my other phone I used to get decent4g when I was in San Antonio. Now with my tri band Max , the lte signal sucks. I am on Sprint, so it could have nothing to do with the phone.
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I sent the G2 back to get the One MAX. The G2 and One MAX are on par with each other with signal. So if u were happy with ur G2 you will be happy with the One MAX. I noticed both to be slightly better then my Note 2. These are all Verizon phones so other carriers may differ.
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the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone...
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the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone...
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Well and the Carriers Switching equipment. Verizon Favors Lucent/Motorola Switches.
like I said, the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone
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like I said, the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone
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Completely false. The phone factors in to the signal quality. If it weren't so, then the iPhone would have never had the problem of "you're holding it wrong".
To answer the OP's question. On sprint, both phones seemed to be on par when it came to Band 25 (1900 MHz) LTE Connectivity. The other bands are unknown for now, as 26 isn't deployed and 41 has yet to be enabled on the G2.
sorry, dont agree; if I recall, it was the antenna design/location on the ibone that was causing the issues...no such issue on the one max
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sorry, dont agree; if I recall, it was the antenna design/location on the ibone that was causing the issues...no such issue on the one max
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Sorry but I disagree. I can put three different phones (you can pick them) on my kitchen table and using any decent signal strength app show they are receiving sometimes drastically different signal strength. The manufacturer writes the code that displays the signal strength and can put whatever they want to be identified by those "signal bars" in the status bar. But none of them are going to use it to show they are actually getting poor signal.
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the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone...
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While I agree with a lot of ur other posts I disagree with you here. Me being a Motorola fanboy I can tell u hands down their signal in their phones usually always pulls better then every other pen out there. Anybody that's owned a Motorola phone will usually tell you their signal is always a tick better. Go Google that, mostly any tech site will tell you that also.
Ever heard of the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon? Go Google that and ull see the reception antenna in that phone was horrible. Beyond one of the worse phones of all time. Samsung phones r great in a lot of ways but their antennas have always been subpar.
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my comment was only in regards to the htc one on the sprint network; yep, moto phones tend to have the best radios, for some reason, and probably will pull a signal better on the same network compared to a Samsung phone, or an IBone.
But, put 3 htc one maxs on a table, side by side, on the same network, and the dbm's will all be very similar.
On a strong network, they will read close to the same, and on a lousy network, they will also read similar to each other...
People rave about Verizon's wonderful network, but for me, in the SW suburbs of Chicago, they sucked big time, and have for a long time.
People complain about how lousy Sprint's network is, but, I have had fantastic results with their network, on past HTC Evo's, Evo4g, and Evo 3d..
My current One max gets great signal quality, as does my families 2 htc ones...Is it the network, or the phones themselves?????
Anyways, we all agree to disagree, and just because your opinion may differ from mine, I am glad that we live in a world where we can disagree if we so choose...
I think most of us agree that the one max is an under rated, excellent phone, that doesn't get any where near the praise and exposure that it deserves...
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From what I know, they are both triband phones so is it safe to assume where ever I get lte on my g2, I will get the same on the Max?
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the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone...
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like I said, the quality of the carriers signal is what determines this, NOT the phone
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I was responding to what you responded with. The response you provide above twice is not correct based on the OP question. He did not ask about the same phone in different locations or three of the same phones in the same location.
I truly do appreciate difference of opinion when it comes to things that are personal preference but not when the question being asked is about a technical fact.
I was at school waiting in the hallway for the professor to come. I complained about not being able to get a good signal. A guy across from me had a Samsung phone that was getting 4g while I was getting 3g.
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