New I-9300 owner here on AT&T. I noticed today that my phone says HSDPA in network settings. Is this the same thing as HSPA+? Do I need to change some settings someplace? I am temporarily in small town, so hard to tell from speed tests -- best I have seen so far is 2704 down.
Thanks for your help!
Another thing I can't figure out is how to choose an APN. I set up one to match my GS2, but after I select it, it switches itself back to one AT&T set up. ???
There is no such thing as HSPA in technology - only HSUPA (HSPA Upload) and HSDPA (HSPA Download) - which are cooperative but not necessary for each other.
Sounds as if the Apn failed, so it tries the other ones. An easy method is to delete the other APN's and hope it understands what you want
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d4fseeker said:
There is no such thing as HSPA in technology - only HSUPA (HSPA Upload) and HSDPA (HSPA Download) - which are cooperative but not necessary for each other.
Sounds as if the Apn failed, so it tries the other ones. An easy method is to delete the other APN's and hope it understands what you want
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I don't think your statement that "there is no such thing as HSPA" is correct.
The Samsung PDF user manual for the I747 lists both HSPA and HSPA+ where it explains the 4G icons, and I have personally seen both HSPA:11 and HSPAP:15 on my device by looking at Status > Mobile network type.
dutch55 said:
I don't think your statement that "there is no such thing as HSPA" is correct.
The Samsung PDF user manual for the I747 lists both HSPA and HSPA+ where it explains the 4G icons, and I have personally seen both HSPA:11 and HSPAP:15 on my device by looking at Status > Mobile network type.
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I know this is an older thread, but I was just reading this support document yesterday:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4987
Data services
HSPA (high speed packet access) is actually two different components. HSDPA (downlink) and HSUPA (uplink). Like our 3G voice services, HSPA is WCDMA based, so the same improvements to efficiency and bandwidth are seen here.
HSPA has a maximum download speed of 14 Mbps.
Customers on 3G can use voice and data services simultaneously.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
This page provides an overview of HSPA+, which is the technology T-Mobile uses for our 4G network.
HSPA+ is an enhancement of T-Mobile's 3G HSPA technology.
It offers data faster speeds but requires the necessary backhaul is in place (backhaul refers to the pipe that connects our towers to the Internet).
All 3G sites are already using HSPA+ technology but they are referred to as 3G until that backhaul is there to support the faster speeds.
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KYT said:
I know this is an older thread, but I was just reading this support document yesterday:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4987
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
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Dunno.
My phone has (in order of speed)
3G
H (HSDPA)
H+ (HSPA+)
It doesn't do 2G on my network.
So I assume that H is actually just HSPA.
I've seen the following marks on my S3 (International 16GB, Stock 4.1.2).
G
E
3G
H
H+
G is barely usable. Like 0.02mb down, ping over 1000.
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I've seen the following marks on my S3 (International 16GB, Stock 4.1.2).
G
E
3G
H
H+
G is barely usable. Like 0.02mb down, ping over 1000.
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Im living in Portugal and i have the same question. Normally i have E or H. When im talking appears 3G...
Im using I9300 and 2G+3G.
Tks!
G is GPRS, E is EDGE
BaronInkjet said:
New I-9300 owner here on AT&T. I noticed today that my phone says HSDPA in network settings. Is this the same thing as HSPA+? Do I need to change some settings someplace? I am temporarily in small town, so hard to tell from speed tests -- best I have seen so far is 2704 down.
Thanks for your help!
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If you really want to know these will explain it all in full
HSPA+
HSDPA
HSDPA download speeds up to 42mbps where HSPA+ has download speeds up to 337mbps with release 11, 168mbps with earlier release 7
E - edge = slowest
G - gprs = slow
3G = "normal" speeds
H - HSDPA = Faster download speeds
H+ - HSPA+ = Fastest speed on the S3
4G = 3 times as fast as 3G, only on LTE version
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Donald K. said:
E - edge = slowest
G - gprs = slow
3G = "normal" speeds
H - HSDPA = Faster download speeds
H+ - HSPA+ = Fastest speed on the S3
4G = 3 times as fast as 3G, only on LTE version
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Edge is faster that GPRS. GPRS is 2G. Edge is 2.5G
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Edge is faster that GPRS. GPRS is 2G. Edge is 2.5G
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Oh sorry my fault!
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No problem. Lets hope none of us have to use gprs or edge anyway
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well through testing almost all of the roms here in this section i have found out that every rom does have 3g but if you select HSDPA/HSUPA you will lose your 3G connection and can only have it again if you disable HSDPA/HSUPA. This seems very odd because the hermes and kaiser would switch between the two depending on which one had the stronger connection. i welcome others to test this as i think it is interesting and should be looked into.
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well through testing almost all of the roms here in this section i have found out that every rom does have 3g but if you select HSDPA/HSUPA you will lose your 3G connection and can only have it again if you disable HSDPA/HSUPA. This seems very odd because the hermes and kaiser would switch between the two depending on which one had the stronger connection. i welcome others to test this as i think it is interesting and should be looked into.
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Hmmm Curious..
I am currently running RomeOS 1.21 and am about to update to 1.51.
mine switches no problem between the two.
If i can't get a HSDPA signal then it auto switches to 3G..
will see if the new rom changes anything.
Dean
let me know because i have been observing and have only seen it auto change from H to E or G whichs sucks when it use to go from H to 3G. travel the entire bay area for my job and both phones side by side with me act different. so wierd.
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let me know because i have been observing and have only seen it auto change from H to E or G whichs sucks when it use to go from H to 3G. travel the entire bay area for my job and both phones side by side with me act different. so wierd.
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I Thought H was the same as 3g. Isn't Att's 3G network run on HSDPA?
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well through testing almost all of the roms here in this section i have found out that every rom does have 3g but if you select HSDPA/HSUPA you will lose your 3G connection and can only have it again if you disable HSDPA/HSUPA. This seems very odd because the hermes and kaiser would switch between the two depending on which one had the stronger connection. i welcome others to test this as i think it is interesting and should be looked into.
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HSDPA/HSUPS is 3G. If you are referring to WCDMA vs HSPA there would not be a stronger connection for either because they are on the same frequency.
Fact is on the Hermes/Kaiser the HSPA was downstream only (HSDPA) , on the raph its has bi-directional HSPA (HSDPA and HSUPA) therefor the towers you are broadcasting to with the device will have HSPA mode on continuously as apposed to only when you are receiving from them since the device is receiving and transmitting using HSPA.....which is why the HSDPA mode "H" symbol only appeared during data transfer on the older devices, there was normally a short delay (when using the device as a modem for example) before the "H" appeared and the data began coming in.
Notice how you need to reboot if you choose to deactive HSPA alltogether? The radio stack probably needs to start a new session on the network to change from HSPA back to UMTS only. Indeed when you set standard 3G mode you should get the "3G" symbol rather than "H".
The service rep at ATT told me the other day that HSDPA is actually different then 3G. THe HSDPA is typically meant for the Laptop Connect cards. Since the inception of the iPhone on 3G if you haven't noticed your speeds have dropped significantly.
How true is this I don't know...but when I am using a ROM like RRE that has HSDPA my speeds are much faster then with 3G.
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The service rep at ATT told me the other day that HSDPA is actually different then 3G. THe HSDPA is typically meant for the Laptop Connect cards. Since the inception of the iPhone on 3G if you haven't noticed your speeds have dropped significantly.
How true is this I don't know...but when I am using a ROM like RRE that has HSDPA my speeds are much faster then with 3G.
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HSPA (3.5G) is just another coding method, it still uses the 3G frequencies as with UMTS (aka normal 3G). The theoretical bandwidth due to the more complex an efficient coding method means you can get ALOT more bandwidth down the same frequency than with UMTS. So technically UMTS and HSPA can both be encompassed into the "3G" terminology although they use different coding techniques, the video calling and voice stuff are handled identically afaik, data transmission is where they differ.
This kind of improvement can be seen in the 2G technologies with GSM/GPRS/EDGE.
HSDPA is a "higher speed" data connection than 3G... but its still a "3G" frequency data connection. So on-the-face-of-it, they are one and same, just one is faster than the other.
thank you so much. i am a very visual and analytical person. love to compare behavour. glad i got a real answer about this as i have been reading for days on this and it seems kind of cloudy with the fuze on information. thank you again for the replys.
Wow, there's quite a bit of information, some conflicting, about the various 3G-related terminologies here. So I might as well add my take on it all
Let's compare 2G terminologies to 3G ones, as that should make it easier for some to understand.
GSM - the very basic 2G standard
UMTS - the very basic 3G standard
GPRS - upgraded GSM to packet switching - faster data access - dubbed 2.5G
HSDPA - upgraded UMTS to faster downlink speeds - dubbed 3.5G
EDGE - upgraded GPRS to faster data access - dubbed 2.75G
HSUPA - upgraded UMTS to faster uplink speeds - dubbed 3.75G (occasionally)
Finally, HSPA is simply a term encompassing HSDPA and HSUPA.
I hope this helps more than it hurts
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GSM - the very basic 2G standard
UMTS - the very basic 3G standard
GPRS - upgraded GSM to packet switching - faster data access - dubbed 2.5G
HSDPA - upgraded UMTS to faster downlink speeds - dubbed 3.5G
EDGE - upgraded GPRS to faster data access - dubbed 2.75G
HSUPA - upgraded UMTS to faster uplink speeds - dubbed 3.75G (occasionally)
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There i fixed it for you
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There i fixed it for you
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WCDMA is the air interface for UMTS as
TDMA is the air interface for GSM.
At the same time, GSM is used to describe a phone system that uses GSM/TDMA and UMTS/WCDMA versus the CDMA phone system used by Sprint/Verizon/Qualcomm.
Confused yet?
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WCDMA is the air interface for UMTS as
TDMA is the air interface for GSM.
At the same time, GSM is used to describe a phone system that uses GSM/TDMA and UMTS/WCDMA versus the CDMA phone system used by Sprint/Verizon/Qualcomm.
Confused yet?
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PLEAAAASEEE can we go into how OFDM and QPSK work?? i want to see some heads explode...scanners style.
NuShrike said:
WCDMA is the air interface for UMTS as
TDMA is the air interface for GSM.
At the same time, GSM is used to describe a phone system that uses GSM/TDMA and UMTS/WCDMA versus the CDMA phone system used by Sprint/Verizon/Qualcomm.
Confused yet?
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LOL, newbs reading this will and should be confused. I only edited it to make his comparisons between GSM and UMTS which is should be, not GSM and WCDMA which aren't in the same "group"
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LOL, newbs reading this will and should be confused. I only edited it to make his comparisons between GSM and UMTS which is should be, not GSM and WCDMA which aren't in the same "group"
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*head explode*
what are decent speeds for HSPA connections?
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Thanks. I really shouldn't post anything when it's late, especially when my head feels twice its size due to a particularly annoying cold
NuShrike and Mr. Vanx has explained it.
These jargons always confusing for us, laymans. Easiest term is i think CDMA (2000,1X, EVDO) is used almost exclusively in US, while GSM and WCDMA (UMTS) is in almost everywhere else of the world (around 3.5 billon users as of now - open www.gsmworld.com). Except Japan, they have their own customized system.
Reasons of difference? Matter of choice, more like when you decide using VHS instead of BetaMax. I think part of the reason why US choose CDMA instead of GSM you may ask Qualcomm's technical people, as they hold majority of the copyrights and licenses in CDMA technology. Not only in driverless chipsets... LoL.
Actually, we in Indonesia also adopt CDMA in smaller and narrower market. But the gov limit them to be Fixed Wireless. Now, what does the jargon: Fixed Wireless means?? Another head exploded... LoL =D
3G icon shows when the phone's sitting idle, H shows when data's being transferred.
My phone shows H all the time now because this market has moved on from UMTS + HSPDA to a HSPA market now. This is ONLY as a result of using the non-AT&T ROM, if you use that it will say 3G because AT&T has disabled it (the icon, not speeds) to cause less confusion.
As for what's typical HSPA speeds? Well on the AT&T network i've seen as high as 2Mbps (on a 3.6Mbps HSPA network) but there are places in Europe that are deploying 7.2Mbps and in Australia they are launching 21Mbps!!!
Alright XDA I just got off the phone with Tmobile Android Tech Support and they mentioned that the Vibrant is compatible with the new 4g network that is mid rollout but the phone has to be rooted (done) and new firmware installed (also done, thanks Bionix). Any ideas on how to turn that little feature on?
Wrong section...lol
Anyway, its an automatic thing. The only way you'll see if you are in HSPA+ instead of reg 3G is if you have a Froyo ROM loaded. The only phone (out the box) so far that shows the H is the G2
They're talking about the HSPA+ and our phones aren't capable of HSPA+. They do have HSPA 7.2, so you will see an increase of speed but not the full HSPA+ speeds of the network.
I think someone telling you you stories.
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Wrong section...lol
Anyway, its an automatic thing. The only way you'll see if you are in HSPA+ instead of reg 3G is if you have a Froyo ROM loaded. The only phone (out the box) so far that shows the H is the G2
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You can also download mobile signal widget from the market. I have it on my vibrant. It shows E, G, 3g, and H, so even though the phone itself won't show it, the widget does. I myself am getting good speeds with my vibrant. I have hit 6.3 mbs down and 1.6 up sitting at my desk at work.
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would a tmobile rep really tell you that your phone has to be rooted?
Vibrant does not have HSPA+ you get some speed pump if network in your area are HSPA+ but not full 4G speed.
There is some confusion on how T-Mobile is marketing this upgrade. What they are trying to explain is that because the HSPA+ and the HSPA network share resources, that when the serving cell site is upgraded to the fast 50 mbps backhaul fiber for HSPA+ that the HSPA phones like the vibrant will have a faster backhaul connection and should run at much closer to the 7.2 mbps theoretical throughput. Some curernt 3G sites are running at 2 T1's currently which limits your data throughput to 3 mbps due to the backhaul connection. When the site get upgraded to HSPA+ it still has the same 2 T1's but they add an additional fiber connection that is 25 mbps to 50 mbps depending on the providers capabilities.
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You can also download mobile signal widget from the market. I have it on my vibrant. It shows E, G, 3g, and H, so even though the phone itself won't show it, the widget does. I myself am getting good speeds with my vibrant. I have hit 6.3 mbs down and 1.6 up sitting at my desk at work.
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What's the name of the app?
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What I am happy about is that T-Mobile has decided to stop being so damn scared and is actually advertising it as 4G. True, the technology is based on 3G, but the data speeds are actually better than the current 4G implementations. Verizon and sprint did this with their current 3G CDMA networks. When they first launched EVDO it didn't meet the 2mbps required by the 3G standards. That didn't stop them from marketing it as 3G though and eventually the technology caught up.
And the HSPA+ network is not tapped out either. We could soon see 42 mbps on a HSPA+ network.
I will welcome the day when they stop with all the marketing BS and just advertise the prices and speeds. ill take 21 mbps 3G over 6mbps 4G any day.
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What's the name of the app?
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Nevermind I reread your post
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wj04 said:
Alright XDA I just got off the phone with Tmobile Android Tech Support and they mentioned that the Vibrant is compatible with the new 4g network that is mid rollout but the phone has to be rooted (done) and new firmware installed (also done, thanks Bionix). Any ideas on how to turn that little feature on?
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As some of the other posters have noted, you were slightly misinformed. T-Mobile's "4G" network is really HSPA+. The Vibrant does not support HSPA+: you cannot get "4G" on the Vibrant because its hardware is not compatible.
However, in those markets that get HSPA+, the regular HSPA speeds should increase—to take advantage of this you do not need to do anything, your phone will automatically handle it for you. The Android version on your device has nothing to do with being able to handle the speed increase.
Some ROMs change the network indicator in the notification bar to show when you are connected to a HSPA network (H) as opposed to a UMTS (3G) one. If you feel that you ought to be getting HSPA network connections, but your phone is only showing "3G", you can verify this yourself by going to "Settings > About phone > Status": there is an entry there that says "Mobile network type", and this will either say GPRS, EDGE, UMTS or HSPA.
Further, why are questions being asking in a development forum? Will a mod please move this to the appropriate location, and will people please start paying attention and posting their questions in the proper location.
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uh....he said it's called MOBILE SIGNAL WIDGET just search that on the market...lol
They Said It Will Only "Boost" The Internet Speed On Our Phones,
my Roommate has a T-Mobile HTC HD 2 rooted with CM6 and in Orlando, FL he gets the "H" hspa+ and very very fast.
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my Roommate has a T-Mobile HTC HD 2 rooted with CM6 and in Orlando, FL he gets the "H" hspa+ and very very fast.
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The "H" is for HSPA. It doesn't matter if it's "plus" or not. The HD2 is capable of HSPA 7.2 3G speeds, not HSPA+ 3G 4G speeds, but since HSPA+ is simply and upgrade to the existing HSPA 7.2, then not only will HSPA 7.2 phones (like the HD2 and all current T-Mobile Android phones) work on HSPA+ networks, but they will perform closer to the 7.2Mbps maximum possible download speed of HSPA 7.2 technology. However, they will not reach the higher speeds that are possible with phones designed for HSPA+ like the G2.
Short answers:
-Does the Vibrant work on T-Mobile's "4G network" (HSPA+)?
Yes
-Does the Vibrant get better speeds on "4G" than on 3G?
Yes
-Can the Vibrant take full advantage of T-Mobile's "4G data" and achieve speeds beyond what is possible on 3G (HSPA 7.2)?
No
Just want to point out that its hsDpa and hspa+. Hsdpa is up to 7.2, hspa+ is up to 21. None of the t mobile phones tell you which you are on, because it doesn't matter unless you are on a g2 (which still doesn't tell you, just says H either way). It would be nice to know, but a quick speed test will always make it obvious. If your getting over 1.5 down (tmobile 3g max) your on hsdpa.
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Just want to point out that its hsDpa and hspa+. Hsdpa is up to 7.2, hspa+ is up to 21. None of the t mobile phones tell you which you are on, because it doesn't matter unless you are on a g2 (which still doesn't tell you, just says H either way). It would be nice to know, but a quick speed test will always make it obvious. If your getting over 1.5 down (tmobile 3g max) your on hsdpa.
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HSPA is a term used to cover both HSDPA and HSUPA. The "D" is for "download" and the "U" is for "upload". When we're talking about network speeds like 7.2 vs 21, we're usually only talking about download speeds, so strictly speaking we've only been talking about HSDPA for both 7.2 and +.
Mr_Tricorder said:
HSPA is a term used to cover both HSDPA and HSUPA. The "D" is for "download" and the "U" is for "upload". When we're talking about network speeds like 7.2 vs 21, we're usually only talking about download speeds, so strictly speaking we've only been talking about HSDPA for both 7.2 and +.
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Mostly true. HSPA (High-Speed Packet Access) does consist of both HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) and HSUPA (High-Speed Uplink Packet Access). HSDPA allows for 7.2 Mbps downstream on T-Mobile's US network, although HSDPA can accommodate speeds as high as 14.0 Mbps. HSUPA allows for upstream speeds up to 5.7 Mbps.
Originally, most carriers started with HSDPA, while maintaining the original 384 kbps speeds on the upstream of 3G. For this reason there was a difference between HSDPA and HSPA: HSDPA was used for received faster downloads but still receiving the lower 384 kbps upstream speed; HSPA was used for when the handset was received HSDPA speeds downstream and HSUPA speeds on the upstream.
HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) allows for up to 56 Mbps downstream and 22 Mbps upstream. T-Mobiles "4G" HSPA+ network is only getting 22 Mbps downstream at present, but it is possible that this could increase.
True 4G service means that 100 Mbps or greater is possible downstream. Sprint's WiMax "4G" network is not true 4G either: it is only rated at 40 Mbps at present, although theoretically it can achieve 1 Gbps.
However, all of this is moot, since the Vibrant (like all other SGS devices at present) does not have a HSPA+ radio, and therefore can only reach a maximum 14.0 Mbps downstream, and 5.7 Mbps upstream. Also, this really does belong in either General or Q&A.
Hi
I have the Galaxy S2, when I turn on the use packet data and data roaming in the mobile network settings, an icon H+ starts flashing on the top of the display with two little arrows.
1. What does it mean? Is the phone downloading data from the cellular network?
2. What is: packet data and data roaming? What's the difference between the two?
Many Thanks.
Hi,
The icon itself means that you are connected to the data network of your cellular provider.
The icon can look like one of the following:
G - 2nd (or 2.5) generation connection
3G - 3rd generation coonection
H - 3.5 generation connection
H+ - 4th generation connection. This does not mean your provider actually support 4th generation data rates.
When the little arrows are gray - No data is being sent/received. When they are colored it means your phone is sending/receiving data.
Roaming means that you are connected to a "foreign" cellular provider (not the one you are paying to).
Data roaming means that you allow your phone to use data connection when you are roaming.
Using data connection while roaming is extremely expensive and it is highly recommended not to do so.
Hope I got it all covered for you
Data conection
Thank you for clearing this for me.
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Hi
I have the Galaxy S2, when I turn on the use packet data and data roaming in the mobile network settings, an icon H+ starts flashing on the top of the display with two little arrows.
1. What does it mean? Is the phone downloading data from the cellular network?
2. What is: packet data and data roaming? What's the difference between the two?
Many Thanks.
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well I did my digging and got some more accurate figures in addition to the above
G is GPRS 86kbps
E is EDGE 236kbps
3G is UMTS 386kbps
H is HSDPA 3.2Mbps
H+ is HSPA 7.2Mbps
H+ is too for HSPA+ for 14.4Mbps or 21.1Mbps
(noteH and H+ are the so called 3.5G
and the new comer:
4G ( LTE technology) is 100-300 Mbps ( the iphone5 is said to be on 100Mbps)
some phones don't show H or H+ , they just show 3G for UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA, HSPA+
only G or E means it's on 2G, - that is you are not in 3G coverage
PS on my Vodafone, using speedtest.net app i get on H+ 7.12 Mbps... ( aka 0.89 MB/s)
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Slackflash said:
well I did my digging and got some more accurate figures in addition to the above
G is GPRS 86kbps
E is EDGE 236kbps
3G is UMTS 386kbps
H is HSDPA 3.2Mbps
H+ is HSPA 7.2Mbps
H+ is too for HSPA+ for 14.4Mbps or 21.1Mbps
(noteH and H+ are the so called 3.5G
and the new comer:
4G ( LTE technology) is 100-300 Mbps ( the iphone5 is said to be on 100Mbps)
some phones don't show H or H+ , they just show 3G for UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA, HSPA+
only G or E means it's on 2G, - that is you are not in 3G coverage
PS on my Vodafone, using speedtest.net app i get on H+ 7.12 Mbps... ( aka 0.89 MB/s)
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Is there a different icon for DC-HSDPA, or is it 'lumped' into H+?
The standard should theoretically allow up to 84Mbps with MIMO, but my phone only supports up to 42Mbps.
KPN in NL has it rolled out, but I've never been able to confirm if I'm on DC-HSDPA. Using Network Signal Info android app, the fastest I've connected is HSPA+ at 21.6Mbps.
hello seniors, please someone help my phone e120l network not connect to "H" only G/3G connected..how to fix this problem? im already updated to 4.1.2 jelly bean rooted+cwm recovery..
It depends on your area/city/carrier
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hamba9551 said:
hello seniors, please someone help my phone e120l network not connect to "H" only G/3G connected..how to fix this problem? im already updated to 4.1.2 jelly bean rooted+cwm recovery..
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Did you connect with stock installed firmware to H or not?
Before this im using rooted rom from Vietnam dev.. Its enabled H on my status bar.. But after a month using thus phone there is no H available.. After that i reflash stock rom then 3G came out from status bar.. No H anymore.. Download speed also decreased via 3G..
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change your modem.
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It's weird. I have an Atrix and a new GSII. At home my Atrix shows HSPA and my GSII shows HSDPA. Isn't HSPA "4G" and HSDPA 3G?
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It's weird. I have an Atrix and a new GSII. At home my Atrix shows HSPA and my GSII shows HSDPA. Isn't HSPA "4G" and HSDPA 3G?
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That's what I thought too, and I'm also showing HSDPA... hmmm... but the upload speeds are HSPA+ so it can't be right.
I thought both 3G and "4"G could be called HSPA. High Speed Packet Access.
Doesn't the D stand for download. I thought HSUPA (U for upload) was the feature that got all the publicity with the Atrix, as it wasn't activated at launch.
I am sitting on H+ according to my status but in about it says UMTS, which I thought was 3G. My HTC 8525 ran on UMTS 4 years ago.
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quarlow said:
I thought both 3G and "4"G could be called HSPA. High Speed Packet Access.
Doesn't the D stand for download. I thought HSUPA (U for upload) was the feature that got all the publicity with the Atrix, as it wasn't activated at launch.
I am sitting on H+ according to my status but in about it says UMTS, which I thought was 3G. My HTC 8525 ran on UMTS 4 years ago.
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I think in the about settings HSPA means HSPA+ while HSDPA means the slower standard. I think it is probably a bug. My Atrix could distinguish between HSPA and HSDPA in the about settings. In areas without 4G it would read UMTS or HSDPA while in advanced backhaul areas it would read HSPA. On The GSII it seems to be messed up. I never saw HSPA.
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I think in the about settings HSPA means HSPA+ while HSDPA means the slower standard. I think it is probably a bug. My Atrix could distinguish between HSPA and HSDPA in the about settings. In areas without 4G it would read UMTS or HSDPA while in advanced backhaul areas it would read HSPA. On The GSII it seems to be messed up. I never saw HSPA.
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Mine is acting the same way my Infuse was. It never seems accurate. Obviously if you pass the 0.33mbps range your HSUPA is enabled. That's about all we really know for sure, hehe
Phone status display frequently is broken in the framework and not reporting correctly.
For example, the Infuse would report UMTS when in an HSPA+ mode...
Entropy512 said:
Phone status display frequently is broken in the framework and not reporting correctly.
For example, the Infuse would report UMTS when in an HSPA+ mode...
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I'd imagine the marketing\disguising one technology as another and not being forthcoming about where has "enhanced backhaul" nor defining what "enhanced backhaul" even is in terms of speed, likely doesn't help things either ;-)
hspa and hsdpa are both 3.5G at best
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Dial *#0011# on your phone. The screen will show what exactly is your phone using. So far, I have yet seen 'HSPA+ used' display anything other than 0.
Does the Lumia 800 show a H for HSDPA and H+ for HSDPA+ connections? Mine only ever shows 3G.
I have the H on my screen now. Don't think I've ever seen a plus sign though.
In settings under "Highest connection speed" does it have the option for HSDPA? Mine has Edge or 3G thats it.
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In settings under "Highest connection speed" does it have the option for HSDPA? Mine has Edge or 3G thats it.
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Same here, but i swear I've seen a 'H' up there before... hmmm
I have only 3G and E in settings and i have never seen H icon in signal bar or in settings.
HSDPA actually is 3G. HSDPA is just a little bit faster than the actual 3G, and is often referred as 3,5G. It's normal you cannot choose HSDPA in your settings, because it uses the same band(s) as 3G does, and the phone will of course prefer HSDPA over 3G if available.
So why doesn't it show H when I am downloading with obvious HSDPA speeds? If I speed test my Lumia and my Nexus the Nexus is WAY faster.
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If it doesn't show H, and your Nexus is way faster, then clearly it's only on 3G.
But why?
This phone supports HSDPA and I am within a coverage area (as shown by the Nexus speeds) so why does it not connect as such?
I'm on the german O2 Network with an unbranded Lumia 800 and I notivec everything: G, E, 3G and H. Everything is shown when I'm in a covered area.
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But why?
This phone supports HSDPA and I am within a coverage area (as shown by the Nexus speeds) so why does it not connect as such?
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Ask your telco.
bnathan said:
But why?
This phone supports HSDPA and I am within a coverage area (as shown by the Nexus speeds) so why does it not connect as such?
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Are you using the same network across both phones??
Yes I take the sim out of one and put it in the other. Same everything other than the phone.
bnathan said:
But why?
This phone supports HSDPA and I am within a coverage area (as shown by the Nexus speeds) so why does it not connect as such?
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Have you looked at your APN settings? You might need to configure those according to your carrier/network...