[Q] Tablet application space vs I717 app space - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

I have a question that may or may not be a noob question. I have two tablets, a Transformer tf101, with 16gb storage, and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, with 8GB storage. On both of those, I have noticed that internal storage is such that I have 12 GB space for installing apps on the Transformer, and 5gb for installing apps on the Galaxy Tab 2. vs only having 2GB space for installing apps on my 16GB Galaxy Note. Is it possible to repartition space on the Note so that more is available for installing apps? I have a 64GB external SD card, so pure storage is not a problem.
Thanks for any answers/comments.

Are you sure that you are looking at the note's storage space right? Mine shows as having 10.84GB of general storage which is space for everything from Applications to pictures and audio files. Can you attach a screen shot like mine below so i can get an idea of what you are seeing?

Your looking under storage, look under apps, and it will tell you that you have under internal storage at the bottom of the display, x.xGB used, and xxxMB free. It works out to about 1.92GB total for installing apps.

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bonez565 is telling you exactly what you asked. Yes you have 1.92GB for installing apps. But that 10.84GB can also be used for installing apps. If you use apps2sd or the internal application manager you can move most apps to this 10.84GB space.

That actually is NOT what I am asking. Both tablets have been setup so that they show the ENTIRE space available for installing apps. Where the Note shows 1.92 GB available, under Downloaded apps, the tablets both show far more available, without using APP2SD, or the internal manager. Not tricks, other than maybe the ROMs were made such that that the partitions were setup differently, or maybe the space was made more transparent. I will upload screenshots, so you can see what I am talking about.
Agoattamer said:
bonez565 is telling you exactly what you asked. Yes you have 1.92GB for installing apps. But that 10.84GB can also be used for installing apps. If you use apps2sd or the internal application manager you can move most apps to this 10.84GB space.
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1st screenshot from my Note. 2nd screenshot from my Transformer, 3rd SS from my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. All running JB 4.1.2
My Tab 2, and my Note are even running AOKP Milestone 1, yet the tablets are given way more space for installs. I am not running APP2SD, or any other storage management. BTW APP2SD does NOT like the tablets like that, and won't allow you to move them to SD. But it seems a way better solution anyway, that's why I want it on my Note.

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[Q] Device memory only 1.97Gb?

Hi,
I actually picked the S2 over the Sensation because of the slightly higher specs and the fact that phone has 16gb internal memory. Being new to android (switch from iPhone) I really don't get what device memory is and why it's filling up so fast. I have barely installed 5 tiny apps and already 140Mb out of the 1.97Gb has already been used. I installed loads of apps on my iPhone and I intend to do that same on my new one so could someone please explain this concept of device memory and what exactly is stored in there. Also, if I run out of device memory, how do I free it up or increase the 1.97Gb limit?
2GB /data rest as internal sd card, system partition, cache, etc.
You can move apps to sd card if the data partition is full.
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Relax, there's plenty of space. I've more than 80 apps installed, and they uses 664MB, so around 240 apps before memory is filled up... Remember that large games like Gameloft games installs their main data on the 12GB partition. And there is also a possibility to move most of the apps to that area as well, but it is unlikely that you need that.
The 140MB used on your phone probably includes some pre-installed apps.
Phew! That's big relief... Thanks so much. Just one last small doubt, I realized that only some apps are allow to be moved to the SD card while others like facebook have the this option greyed out. Why is this exactly?
some apps have the ability to be moved to sd card while others dont due to the way they are built..
can use device internal memory to store app data?
guys is it possible to use the device internal memory (1.9gb) to store app data in absence of internal and external SD card? my camera/apps don't run in absence of the SD card any way to get around this by using the the device internal memory? ( i have 1.5gb free after installation of all the necessarily apps)

A2SD for Note

Coming from a rooted EVO there was a script written that allowed you to move entire apps to sd card instead of just a portion like apps2sd... I was just wondering if anyone has seen anything similar for the Note?
No. But u shouldn't need it. There's plenty internal space for apps, unlike a dated evo.
Thanks for the reply
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esincho said:
No. But u shouldn't need it. There's plenty internal space for apps, unlike a dated evo.
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Not for me, LOL. I'd like to be able to increase the apps partition and decrease the internal SD size. I hate moving apps to SD because Android likes to forget they're installed and then I have to reboot to access them. But if I don't, I run out of space (for some reason even with 200MB available, I constantly get "not enough storage available" errors when installing apps, but anything over about 200-250MB or so and they install fine).

Freeing up Storage with Link2SD and Mini Tool Partition

As many of you have discovered, the S4 comes up way short on storage. Of the 16 gigs promoted, you can only use 9 or so. Then to further complicate matters, apps that allow you to move programs don't work so well on the S4.
A solution for me has been to re-partition the sd card with Mini Partition Tools and then "Link" the app you are moving with Link2SD.
Just by linking 3 native apps, i was able to pic up about 1oo megs (enough that i got rid of the Low Storage warning).
I partitioned a class 4 eight gig card (one that i could afford to loose if partitioning failed) into 2 equal partitions.
Then i linked Amazon, Kendal, and Amazon mp3 native apps with Link2SD. I then unlinked the apps to make sure i could undo the magic.
All apps worked as normal while linked and unlinked.
My S4 is rooted but not unlocked. I have frozen SDM1 as to not take the most recent OTA that allows moving apps to sd cards. I have read that the feature in the new ota really doesn't move the app or at best only moves a small portion.
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ciniob said:
As many of you have discovered, the S4 comes up way short on storage. Of the 16 gigs promoted, you can only use 9 or so. Then to further complicate matters, apps that allow you to move programs don't work so well on the S4.
A solution for me has been to re-partition the sd card with Mini Partition Tools and then "Link" the app you are moving with Link2SD.
Just by linking 3 native apps, i was able to pic up about 1oo megs (enough that i got rid of the Low Storage warning).
I partitioned a class 4 eight gig card (one that i could afford to loose if partitioning failed) into 2 equal partitions.
Then i linked Amazon, Kendal, and Amazon mp3 native apps with Link2SD. I then unlinked the apps to make sure i could undo the magic.
All apps worked as normal while linked and unlinked.
My S4 is rooted but not unlocked. I have frozen SDM1 as to not take the most recent OTA that allows moving apps to sd cards. I have read that the feature in the new ota really doesn't move the app or at best only moves a small portion.
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i just prefer debloating and deleting over this.
if you get rid of all the bloatware, you can get at least a gb out of it, i found.
stuff like Amazon, Kindle, and Amazon mp3 i never use, so meh

Is this true - internal storage only 2 gb???

I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
lightfire said:
I saw this on another forum. Is this true? It would make it unusable to me, and I just ordered one before seeing this. Do we not have at least 12 GB free for apps?
"..an issue I do not know how to resolve. It comes w 4.3 pre installed but the internal storage is not unified (due to USB storage enabled) so just under 2GB is allocated as app storage. This being the setup on older android version we had the option to move individual apps to the secondary partition b within the app option but this being 4.3 this option does not exist so this really puts a damperbn usability of this device."
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I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Coffee Freak said:
I'm guessing this is the US variation of the Mate 2 you are taking about. I already have a lot of apps installed and it's still telling me I have 4.2 gigs available for app storage. Hope that answers your question
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Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
lightfire said:
Thanks! Yes to USA version.
Does anyone know how much memory is available out of the box for apps?
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If you add what it says is available to the what it says I'm using, it totals 6.81 GB. I doubt that includes system apps, as I said I have a lot installed. I had to keep them all on the phone because the ones I moved to the SD card the widgets didn't load on restart and I wasn't getting notifications.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
lightfire said:
Thanks!
But 6.81 is pretty bad - some 16gb phones have around 12 gb for apps. What in the world is taking up so much memory? I need to install copilot maps which are over 4 gb plus all the other software I use. Don't know if this is going to work for me. Heck - I have almost 5.52 gb free for apps on a 8gb moto-g phone
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Well, screen shots of my internal file system storage. My phone is rooted so I could free up more space deleting some system apps I don't use like Facebook but people had to reinstall the system apps they deleted to get the last update to install, and I don't feel like messing with that. I just disabled them. Can you install your co-pilot apps on the SD card?
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No, I don't think the maps can be loaded on sd card.
Darn - I purchased without checking this out - figured if my 8 gb phone had 5.52 gb free a 16 gb phone would have around 12. My fault for not doing proper research. Everyone was saying how much they like the phone. and I let that sway me. Guess I will send it back as 6.81 gb free in 2014 is almost $99 phone territory.
Looks like copilot is downloading fine. I'll let you know if I have issues after it completes.
It gives you the option to use extsd as default storage.
You are showing 12.69 GB available internal storage for apps. Is this correct? Or is it the 10.50 that is available to apps?
Yes 12.69 available. But when I go into settings > manage apps it states 5.8gb for apps. I believe it uses internal/external for app data, so I believe you'll be OK
check in the copilot options. maybe it has the ability to choose where to save the map data
NOKIA HERE does ... and its awesome btw

Link2SD working but free space not correct

Hi everyone. Sorry for starting a new post, but I looked and I wasn't sure where my question fit in. I'm using Link2SD on my kids' tablets and overall it works great. I got really fast (SanDisk extreme) micro SD cards for black Friday and the games run faster than with tablet memory. One thing I'm trying to figure out is why, even though I have both tablets set up mostly the same, one of the tablets has a lot less free space showing. I do have about 400-500 MB more of apps on the tablet showing less free space, BUT it is showing 4.0 GB free space vs. 5.8 GB free space on the other tablet. Why would this be (1.8 GB difference) if all else is the same?
Is it something to do with dalvik/cache? Speaking of it, is it safe to wipe the dalvik/cache through TWRP now that I have Link2SD set up with 30+ apps linked? Do I then just relink the dalvik files after rebooting? Or do things get messed up? I'm hesitant to do any of that because I have everything working well now, except the free space issue.
Or, if I multi-select and then choose to relink everything (apk, dex, internal data), could that help? Everything appears to already be linked correctly, so would relinking mess it up? Also, as a side note, I don't have any lib files linked as I have found that in the past it did mess things up for me. It would cause some apps to re-optimize at every boot, I think because the lib files wouldn't relink, even though I enabled it in the Link2SD settings. So now I stay away from that and all else is good, except this free space issue.
Any ideas on a solution? Is there something else taking up free space that's not listed in internal or system memory? Maybe downloaded Google play books? Or are they listed in the app data? Is the free space shown not correct, and it's actually more? I just can't figure it out. Any ideas would be great. Thanks!!!!
Here are the screenshots. You can see 5.76GB vs 4.07GB, but only 6.94GB vs 7.34GB for internal space difference. Why?

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