Root friendly manufactures - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am at the time of upgrade for my phone. I was wondering if there is any "root friendly" phone manufactures out there? I am currently with At&t (fyi)

Samsung
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ASUS seem to be? - I've got an ASUS Padfone 2 and they seem to provide everything you need on their own website!

pangster said:
ASUS seem to be? - I've got an ASUS Padfone 2 and they seem to provide everything you need on their own website!
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Ya but by the looks of it the padphone doesnt work in the USA.

Yeah Samsung is pretty much the "root friendliest" AFAIK, their phones are always super easy to root and have a lot of developer support. LG has the newest Nexus phone though, it's real nice, no expandable memory but you can get at least 50GB of cloud storage for free without even looking for more than five minutes.
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[Q] Nexus S maybe?

Do u guys think there's any chance we'll be able to trade in our vibrant's for a nexus s?
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Do u guys think there's any chance we'll be able to trade in our vibrant's for a nexus s?
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Well since we are able to trade our hondas for bmws . Also our ps2s for ps3s....then yep
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I'm sorry, this is just a silly question.
But srsly, no. Unless maybe you're in the 14 return period.
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I heard they are also offering a $50 gift card and free BT head sets along with the Nexus S for our Vibrants
Yeah you can get it for $529
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Why you want to trade? The Nexus doesnt have an external sd card and its basically a Vibrant with a facelift
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Why you want to trade? The Nexus doesnt have an external sd card and its basically a Vibrant with a facelift
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I don't think everyone uses external SD card and the nexus will come Gingerbread and get the fastest updates from the big G.
You want the nexus because it's new and just a hair better. It's the same reason everyone here wanted the g2 then mytouch 4g. It's "new" and "better". The vibrant has great hardware, nearly identical to the nexus, so you'd only be trading up for software and a slight facelift. Not worth it.
It's the new factor. You (and everyone else) will get over it in a month and be on to wanting whatever other new phone is out.
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You want the nexus because it's new and just a hair better. It's the same reason everyone here wanted the g2 then mytouch 4g. It's "new" and "better". The vibrant has great hardware, nearly identical to the nexus, so you'd only be trading up for software and a slight facelift. Not worth it.
It's the new factor. You (and everyone else) will get over it in a month and be on to wanting whatever other new phone is out.
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You're partially correct. But the primary reason that people are interested in the Nexus S is that its a "Nexus" branded; therefore, it will always have the latest version of Android in a timely fashion because it is maintained by Google.
I was considering buying one outright myself but the vibrant is so similar devs may be able to port everything to the vibrant within a couple days or weeks. Plus next year there will likely be dual core phones that come out that are going to be more attractive. I do admit having direct Google support would be great, but I'm going to wait and see what the devs do after it comes out. It's not like the phone is going to disappear from existence a month from now.
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Why you want to trade? The Nexus doesnt have an external sd card and its basically a Vibrant with a facelift
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A facelift gone wrong IMO.
The lack of the SD card is bad with only 16g onboard. I came from a 32gb Iphone to the vibrant and quickly went out and bought a 16gb sd card to make up for the missing storage.
I doubt you will be able to.
First off, the Nexus S is only available at Best Buy or from Google.
I went to T-mobile last week and they told me that only Best Buy will have the phone in their stores.
I have a guy waiting to buy my Vibrant off me if I want to sell it... but the loss of SD card storage space, and the extra $230 I would have to pay has me balking.
I doubt I will get one.

Anyone Moving from Table S to Nexus 7?

I'm seriously thinking about moving from the Tablet S to the Nexus 7. The biggest factor influencing me is the ability to keep my software more up-to-date, both through being in the Nexus family and through a more active development community. Android is developing its software so quickly right now (we just got ICS, and JB is already on several devices), and devices will be falling off the map pretty quickly. Having a Nexus device seems like the best way to protect against this.
I'm a little worried about losing the 2" of screen real estate. While the size and weight of the Tablet S make it a little awkward for reading on a plane, it does make for an outstanding movie player. I do think the IR remote is a very good idea, but the reality is that I almost never use it. Even when I have my tablet in my hand, out of habit, I pick up the remote to change channels or adjust the volume. Losing the SD card concerns me a little too, but the cloud services have come a long way, and I'm not sure it's necessary. What else might I lose if I make the switch?
I think I'm going to pick up a Nexus 7, compare the two for a few days, and make a decision at that point. But I'd love to hear from the community about this as well. Anyone else thinking about making this move? When thoughts have you had about the decision? What factors are influencing your choice to stay or go?
EDIT: stupid auto-correct still doesn't like "tablet"
Yep, I'm planning on making this move. The lack of root and an unlocked bootloader has made the Tablet S really unattractive next to a $200 pure Google tablet that will surely have a large dev community behind it. I don't mind the smaller screen, personally. The only thing I think I'd really miss is the native PS3 controller support, which makes playing emulated games on it an ease.
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Yep, I'm planning on making this move. The lack of root and an unlocked bootloader has made the Tablet S really unattractive next to a $200 pure Google tablet that will surely have a large dev community behind it. I don't mind the smaller screen, personally. The only thing I think I'd really miss is the native PS3 controller support, which makes playing emulated games on it an ease.
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That's another thing. I don't even play games on my tablet.
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I'll be moving over from the Sony Tablet S to Nexus 7. I hate this tablet, not many devs have taken it onboard to customize it and hack the device. The Nexus 7 should be alot more dev friendly
I'm also thinking about replacing my Tablet S by a Nexus 7 one...
I've spent a lot of time analyzing the works of great developers in order to find a way to gain root on the Tablet S, trying several exploits, mixing tricks used for other devices in hope of discovering something working and have certainly learned a lot of things by doing that but every game becomes boring if you always lose...
Well, it will be no game at all if the Nexus 7 is built like the Galaxy Nexus phone where "fastboot OEM unlock" is enough to unlock the bootloader but it will make myself spend time using my tablet rather than unsuccessfuly try to root it!
PS
Yes, some people -like me- feel sick holding an unrooted android device in their hands. There is no explanation for this, it 's certainly stupid but that's the way it goes. Must be genetic
I called the Staples down the street from my office today to see if they had any N7s. Rep said they had four that just came off a truck. I went and grabbed one.
I'm just starting to play around with it. My initial reactions are: 1) the build quality feels amazing, and 2) it freaking flies.
Honestly, if I don't find a legitimate deal-breaker, this thing probably has a permanent home.
Another huge perk that I've not seen mentioned yet--while being so basic--is the ability to charge with micro USB. That damn Sony charger really limits how mobile the Tablet S truly is.
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ejchis said:
I called the Staples down the street from my office today to see if they had any N7s. Rep said they had four that just came off a truck. I went and grabbed one.
I'm just starting to play around with it. My initial reactions are: 1) the build quality feels amazing, and 2) it freaking flies.
Honestly, if I don't find a legitimate deal-breaker, this thing probably has a permanent home.
Another huge perk that I've not seen mentioned yet--while being so basic--is the ability to charge with micro USB. That damn Sony charger really limits how mobile the Tablet S truly is.
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Two questions, if you please :
- does the Nexus 7 offer SD card support?
- have you try booting into fastboot mode and try the "fastboot OEM unlock" command (there should be a confirmation box allowing to leave without doing it)?
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Two questions, if you please :
- does the Nexus 7 offer SD card support?
- have you try booting into fastboot mode and try the "fastboot OEM unlock" command (there should be a confirmation box allowing to leave without doing it)?
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No SD card support, which is a slight concern. I have a 64 gb card in my Tablet S. Naturally, I chose the 16 over the 8 gb N7. With Google Play, though, I really shouldn't need to much space.
There is a toolkit for unlocking the bootloader, if that's what you're asking. I'll give it a try when I get home tonight. I don't see any options for unlocking directly from fastboot.
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Two questions, if you please :
- does the Nexus 7 offer SD card support?
- have you try booting into fastboot mode and try the "fastboot OEM unlock" command (there should be a confirmation box allowing to leave without doing it)?
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If you use the USB Adapter and a card reader then yes
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andyabc said:
If you use the USB Adapter and a card reader then yes
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Thx !
I've finally bought a Galaxy Tab 2 7" which supports micro-SD
It's not as up to date than the Nexus 7 but it will make me wait until I sell my Sony S.
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Thx !
I've finally bought a Galaxy Tab 2 7" which supports micro-SD
It's not as up to date than the Nexus 7 but it will make me wait until I sell my Sony S.
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I got the Sony Tablet S instead of a Nexus 7 lol
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andyabc said:
I got the Sony Tablet S instead of a Nexus 7 lol
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Me too.
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andyabc said:
I got the Sony Tablet S instead of a Nexus 7 lol
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Me too.
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That's the way it goes !
I got a USB adapter from ebay that is around £1.00 to around £2.00
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Yeah i was thinking about this too, its nice people thinking like me!
So, i don't know how much i will ask for my Sony Tablet S if i sell it, how much you think i can ask?
+Its a Sony Tablet S W-Fi 16GB
Its have had an Armor Suit Full Cover Skin (Carbon Fiber) since day 1, there's NO scratch on her,
Original Sony Dock
Charger
Original Box & Manuals
32GB Sd Card (Not sure if i will sell or stay with it)
Moco Leather Cover & Stand
running Android ICS Stock, with a BUNCH of paid apps.....
What you guys think?
Also, i was searching the Nexus 7 forum, and they are having some serious issues too, screen dead spots, speakers not working, screen flikering.. etc
andyabc said:
I got a USB adapter from ebay that is around £1.00 to around £2.00
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Sony tablet S is a good device and every little disease you could meet while using it should certainly be solved...
But if you take a look in the threads around here, you will see that the thing is unrootable since Honeycomb 3.2.1 kernel build #10 !
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Sony tablet S is a good device and every little disease you could meet while using it should certainly be solved...
But if you take a look in the threads around here, you will see that the thing is unrootable since Honeycomb 3.2.1 kernel build #10 !
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True. :s
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android_lover69 said:
Yeah i was thinking about this too, its nice people thinking like me!
So, i don't know how much i will ask for my Sony Tablet S if i sell it, how much you think i can ask?
+Its a Sony Tablet S W-Fi 16GB
Its have had an Armor Suit Full Cover Skin (Carbon Fiber) since day 1, there's NO scratch on her,
Original Sony Dock
Charger
Original Box & Manuals
32GB Sd Card (Not sure if i will sell or stay with it)
Moco Leather Cover & Stand
running Android ICS Stock, with a BUNCH of paid apps.....
What you guys think?
Also, i was searching the Nexus 7 forum, and they are having some serious issues too, screen dead spots, speakers not working, screen flikering.. etc
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That's strange because I'm getting some screen flickering here on the Sony Tablet S e3o
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That's strange because I'm getting some screen flickering here on the Sony Tablet S e3o
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???
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I posted up mine fir $390, and have got many majy offers!! But, i decided the one that best suits me.. its going to be traded for a Galaxy S3 AT&T... White, so i can sell my HTC Vivid, and buy the Nexus 7!!
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[q] best android phone

I dont know if i post in the right section.
but i know that many experts in android are in here.
QUESTION:
What brand & unit have good specification
internal memory,processor,audio & Camera.??
and what android unit is the best for custom rom?
i already have LG OPTIMUS ME P350
i already customize it see my signature.
but im tired of it.
i want to buy a new one..
May we know your carrier and price range? Also some more specific requirements you want in the device?
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ratchetandclankf said:
May we know your carrier and price range? Also some more specific requirements you want in the device?
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Carrier - smart
Want 2+ internal memory
W/ atleast 1ghz
Also want cheap
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For getting it directly from Smart, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus would be your best option. I don't know if it would be different on your end, but by going to Google Play and getting the Gnexus from there unlocked, it would cost half as much. Sorry for the late reply.
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Does Google Play still sell the GNex? I thought they pulled them off their site?
Best Android Phone bar non is Samsung GS3 or HTC One X. I heard a One X+ with fire-breathing, ear splitting quad-core and turbojets will be out in the fall.
They pulled it off for a week about a month ago, but its been back on since then.
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Go for google phones which has great suppor from both, google and xda.
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Optimus G is going back

Hi, after 5 day's of using the Lg Optimus G its in the box and going back to At&t.
Its a fast beautiful phone, but I can't live without ROM's. Wish all of you good luck guy's.
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samomamo said:
Hi, after 5 day's of using the Lg Optimus G its in the box and going back to At&t.
Its a fast beautiful phone, but I can't live without ROM's. Wish all of you good luck guy's.
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I don't know if you are paying attention to the development forum but they have clockwork tethered n on the device and they are actively working on an unlock n r very close.
Development is not everything !
NEVER buy a phone for what it 'might' do in the future. Buy it for what it can do now.
If custom roms are important to you, don't get this phone right now. Get an S3 or One X.
If a really good oem experience is OK for you, and root is good enough, then look no further! I think this is an awesome phone.
But until proven otherwise, assume that the bootloader will never be unlocked. It might be, but if that is critical to you, then you should be buying a phone that can do that today.
Each to their own.
Jason
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JasonJoel said:
If custom roms are important to you, don't get this phone right now. Get an S3 or One X.
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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If only N4 had LTE, then I would jump right on that. In the meantime I'm looking forward to getting my OG, and keeping my fingers crossed for the devs to work their magic. Anyone else feel the same?
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they are actively working on an unlock n r very close.
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Where did you see this?
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Why buy those when the N4 is for sale as I type this note. You will not only get the custom ROM's but the quickest update to the latest releases of Andriod.
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Lte.
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Lte.
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And expandable storage
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This phone is an animal. And even now, the test units for the N4 have been updated with the build that will be on the shipped units and in benchmarks and real world testing it doesn't hold a candle to this phone. That of course poses a couple of questions like why is vanilla android not as fast or faster than the build on the optimus g if the hardware is so similar? And why buy the n4 for faster access to updates if those updates don't bring it up to the same performance level as the Optimus G?
Wireless charging is the only feature I wish we had and hey, I can live without that. So IMO this phone is superior and will be even more so if/when the developers here work there magic and get passes the locked bootloader. So I would suggest sticking around.
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And expandable storage
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While I agree that LTE and expandable storage are important, if lack of sufficient progress towards boot loader unlock, in 5 days, would drive you to return the device, for one that will get customer ROMs, getting an S3 which from what I read is about to lose it's dev support due to Samsung policies (devs are tired of doing inefficient, cumbersome work arounds that shouldn't be necessary) isn't a good option, even if you got LTE everywhere you went and could expand storage to 2 TB. The One x has it's drawbacks too.
Even stock unrooted, this thing is a monster in terms of what I'm seeing it do. I may still trade it in for the One X+ at the end of this week, but if I don't I certainly can't find fault with it yet. If I can survive a Droid Bionic with utter lack of Dev support (for good reasons, obviously), the LG OG will be a snap!
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Even stock unrooted, this thing is a monster in terms of what I'm seeing it do. I may still trade it in for the One X+ at the end of this week, but if I don't I certainly can't find fault with it yet. If I can survive a Droid Bionic with utter lack of Dev support (for good reasons, obviously), the LG OG will be a snap!
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I'm thinking about return the OG also, and possibly getting the One X+ (if it's battery life is decent) or the Nexus 4 (and giving up LTE, not sure though).
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This phone is an animal. And even now, the test units for the N4 have been updated with the build that will be on the shipped units and in benchmarks and real world testing it doesn't hold a candle to this phone. That of course poses a couple of questions like why is vanilla android not as fast or faster than the build on the optimus g if the hardware is so similar? And why buy the n4 for faster access to updates if those updates don't bring it up to the same performance level as the Optimus G?
Wireless charging is the only feature I wish we had and hey, I can live without that. So IMO this phone is superior and will be even more so if/when the developers here work there magic and get passes the locked bootloader. So I would suggest sticking around.
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Also even a stock upgrade to jellybean will give us a large performance boost... I am happy enough with root for now, there is no phone that compares to this one.
Imo with just 8/16 gb storage options , no matter what power it houses n4 is pretty useless ! A couple of hd games and few songs Will fill it up and then how am i supposed to take advantage of those a15 quads !
Yeah, 64gb sd cards win
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I really wish the HTC One X+ had 2GB of RAM, mainly because of the uncertainty of needing 2GB for the next version of Android OS.
Mine may be going back and I just got it today. Mine doesn't want to recognize the SIM
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I really wish the HTC One X+ had 2GB of RAM, mainly because of the uncertainty of needing 2GB for the next version of Android OS.
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The other thing you aren't understanding is the Tegra 3 only supports single channel memory, so that one gig is much slower than our 2gb of dual channel memory.
I think he should send it back. Some else would appreciate this wondrous phone.
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Why no touchwiz 4.3 or 4.2.2 from samsung on the i717 ?

Hi,
Im just asking if someone knows if Samsung still support our devices for updates or 4.1.2 was the last one
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
Im just asking if someone knows if Samsung still support our devices for updates or 4.1.2 was the last one
Thanks in advance
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My hopes aren't up on that one. I've got a BIG itch for a new phone and no better time than day after Xmas, but what to get?
Would really love to get Mega 6.3
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captemo said:
My hopes aren't up on that one. I've got a BIG itch for a new phone and no better time than day after Xmas, but what to get?
Would really love to get Mega 6.3
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Yeah but what about the note 3 ? His specs are incredible !
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Yes, 4.1.2 was the last update from Samsung. It's too bad that they abandoned this device. Every now and then I send an email to Samsung bugging them when will they next release an update for our phone but get the same claptrap back.
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Yeah but what about the note 3 ? His specs are incredible !
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The price is a lot more incredible too. Problem with both is, the bootloader issue. They are working on a safety strap to work with or as a recovery. I think N3 is closer to that then the Mega. But he Mega is made to be more affordable. It has already been approved for 4.3 upgrade, 4.4 ?????? We'll have to see. Just 2 weeks ago att had it for $49 online.
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Yeah but what about the note 3 ? His specs are incredible !
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buying the note 3 is like going out and buying an ip5s, your stuck with what the manufacture wants you to have
Samsung can suck a hole in a wall and leave android for all i care now days, they peaked with the note 2 and now are on the hill downwards with apple
with that said, 4.1.2 is the last stop for the i717, we are way over the 18 month period and were lucky to even get 4.1.2
the Knox security is a hell of a mess from Samsung for sure , but I still got hope that will not affect the development for this device. Maybe more time but not the end . all this mess for more money in theirs pockets ..
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The price is a lot more incredible too. Problem with both is, the bootloader issue. They are working on a safety strap to work with or as a recovery. I think N3 is closer to that then the Mega. But he Mega is made to be more affordable. It has already been approved for 4.3 upgrade, 4.4 ?????? We'll have to see. Just 2 weeks ago att had it for $49 online.
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Yes for sure but 6.3 inch is not too big for you ? :what:
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Yes for sure but 6.3 inch is not too big for you ? :what:
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(said with a Scottish accent) "look at the size of it, its like an orange on a toothpack"
I'm stuck on which device I should opt to get. I've become accustomed to the freakingly large screen the note offers. Anything smaller and I might flip...The mega doesn't really interest me that much...I really have no idea what to get. I however might jump ship and get the N5. Its only 349/399
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I'm stuck on which device I should opt to get. I've become accustomed to the freakingly large screen the note offers. Anything smaller and I might flip...The mega doesn't really interest me that much...I really have no idea what to get. I however might jump ship and get the N5. Its only 349/399
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No SD card and can't remove battery? gracias no
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I upgraded to a Note 3 and its a huge improvement from the note 1 , the pen works really well and find I use it a lot more than I did before. Go to your carrier of choice and play with one before picking something you are unsure of. l rooted mine no problem (Im not a big fan of Roms because they always caused problems after 4.2.2 For me anyways ... something always broke.) My mission now is to find the best functioning kitkat rom as it was meant to be buiIt for aging phones that dont have the impressive specs of a newly released flagship device. l almost got a Xperia Z1 because of my tablet Z but didnt like the bezels top and bottom, (AND NO PEN). Awesome job on the pen I cant stress how much better it is?
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No SD card and can't remove battery? gracias no
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I left the note series for a n5 ...best thing I've done ..freaking love this thing...I had the note i717 since it released and never had to remove the battery and still haven't and SD thing..well that depends who what type user you are..I have nexus 7 8gb and didn't bother me . and Thiers dropbox and crap if need be
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I have an S4...but I want a note 1 as a back up. I had the Note 2 but I sold it for lots of loot. The S4 is brilliant but the locked bootloader has cramped the phone to the point of constipation as if you got a S4 on MF 4.2.2 firmware or MK 4.3 firmware the boot loader is super locked. They even killed the service menu. So Im selling my S4 for cash + the note 1 for temp use until I see what I want next. Samsung is the only phone company left with dual storage. LG has the Optimus G pro with 32GB and an SD card slot, but with the specs on that phone they will never see 4.2.2 on it.. And it's a beast of a phone...so I will take this Note 1 + $250 and call it a day until February
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I'm stuck on which device I should opt to get. I've become accustomed to the freakingly large screen the note offers. Anything smaller and I might flip...The mega doesn't really interest me that much...I really have no idea what to get. I however might jump ship and get the N5. Its only 349/399
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Do it. There is nothing better than getting a Nexus. I jumped to Nexus 4 from the Note about 10 months ago, and just upgraded to a Nexus 5. The developer support on a Nexus is amazing. I could have easily stuck with the Nexus 4 for another year, but the lack of LTE was bothering me a bit. A Nexus phone is pure gold. By the time the Note got to be the age that my Nexus 4 was at, I was tired of it. Don't give another dime to Samsung, who will spend it on rewriting perfectly good android code into buggy bloatware. Don't let the lack of sd card bother you. I have lived with 16 GB storage without any issue, and Nexus 5 comes in 32 GB too, for just $50 more.

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