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What is the best stylus for the capacitive screen we have? I am looking for something with a fine point, let me know your opinions, thanks in advance!
Not how capacitive screens work
That's not how capacitive screens work. No matter how fine a stylus is, the screen will recognize the same thing. This is because a capacitive screen does not measure based on pressure, it measures based on current (At least, that's what I've been told).
If you wanted a finer tip to do finer things with,I'd go for an active digitizer display or resistive screen based phone (Which are basically obsolete now due to active digitizers and capacitive displays.
Hope that helps a bit.
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That's not how capacitive screens work. No matter how fine a stylus is, the screen will recognize the same thing. This is because a capacitive screen does not measure based on pressure, it measures based on current (At least, that's what I've been told).
If you wanted a finer tip to do finer things with,I'd go for an active digitizer display or resistive screen based phone (Which are basically obsolete now due to active digitizers and capacitive displays.
Hope that helps a bit.
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Yes it is true that capacitive detects current instead of touch, that does not mean that it is less accurate when discussing location of touch. The underlying grid determines this, but in todays screens, I would think it is as accurate as a resistive screen.
paravorheim said:
That's not how capacitive screens work. No matter how fine a stylus is, the screen will recognize the same thing. This is because a capacitive screen does not measure based on pressure, it measures based on current (At least, that's what I've been told).
If you wanted a finer tip to do finer things with,I'd go for an active digitizer display or resistive screen based phone (Which are basically obsolete now due to active digitizers and capacitive displays.
Hope that helps a bit.
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thank you but i am not looking to exchange this phone for a resistive phone, so given this new information, what is the most accurate stylus that isn't too thick
I was looking for the exact same thing, and ended up going with the "Newest Generation Slim Capacitive Stylus" by A Young Life (AYL). Got it off Amazon, but it might be available elsewhere as well. Works great, slides with minor resistance, and has a much narrower tip than other pens I've used.
While point width doesn't make much of a technical difference, it certainly affects usability. All capacitive stylus models I've seen use a round tip, and the point of contact at the bottom of that little semispherical nub is what registers as a touch on the screen. No matter the size, a sphere is going to converge to a single contact point (with a little give due to material and pressure). But, since you can't see through the pen, you have to estimate the center of the nub when touching it to the screen. The smaller the blind spot created by the nub, the smaller the margin of error.
I bought one off Ebay for .99 delivered from China. It's a small cute collapsable pen with a thin point. I haven't tried it yet because while the tip is thin to allow precise pointing, it is also made from a hard material and I'm scared it may scratch the screen. Is that possible?
If the tip is made for capacitive screens, it should not harm the Atrix gorilla glass.
Could anything sold for under a buck from China possibly harm....Anything?
Youbetcha. As Bush and Mao both said "Trust but verify". Even a gen-you-whine Palm stylus could scrtach Palm screens, so why trust the cheapest stuff from a no-name vendor in China to be any better?
Put on a screen protector first, much cheaper than replacing the screen.
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If the tip is made for capacitive screens, it should not harm the Atrix gorilla glass.
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I just received the one armathrillo is describing a couple posts back and I've got to say this thing is nice. The tip is actually a soft hollow bubble. You couldn't scratch a screen if you tried. It's nice and heavy but not too heavy. It feels like a nice solid pen. The little lanyard attachment is a nice touch. It detaches from the stylus and plugs into a 3.5mm headphone jack for storage. when you're done with the stylus just clip it on and the pen stays with the phone/tab/pad.
i know this is old, but I just recently heard about the jot stylus which seems to be fine point...
I have seen multiple mentions about Prime's touch screen requiring 'stronger touches' to react. Is that true?
I would like to use the tablet for sketching, which is done with capacitive pens (like the one made for iPad 2 by Bamboo) which have a sort of an 'air pad' on the tip, making every brush quite light. Does anyone have such a pen and has tried it on a Prime?
It will be frustrating if I cannot use the pen at all if Prime does not react to the less-prominent touches. I also prefer light touches for actions such as swiping across the screen in galleries or on Google Maps instead of making the swipe very prominent.
If you have Prime, could you share your touch-screen experiences with it?
Or is there a video that demo's Prime touch screen with a multitouch app with varying touch stroke strengths? If you have the Prime, could you record such a video? I am sure many would appreciate it
I dont have a pen but it seems that sometimes it takes a harder touch to select anything on the home screen but for.example when im using the browser a very light touch will scroll just fine
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yeah i'm interested in that point to. I have the Bamboo stylus but not the prime.
Asus stated that the touch screen was more responsive (faster) than the average Android tablet and I 'd love to see how that goes compare to say...the original Transformer !
I get my tab tomorrow I have like 3 different stylus I can test out.
Got a rocketfish stylus, cosmonaut, and a dagi. (hoping to get an adonit jot soon too)
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ravizzle said:
I get my tab tomorrow I have like 3 different stylus I can test out.
Got a rocketfish stylus, cosmonaut, and a dagi. (hoping to get an adonit jot soon too)
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Do any of them have an air-pad type of build? Bamboo stylus looks like an 'eraser' from one end, but it is actually an air-pad of sorts, so it is very light. I know that many capacitive pens are like less-friction erasers, completely filled. These are easier to make taps with on less-responsive screens. But they are not as smooth and light for writing naturally.
I am especially interested in the air-pad type of capacitive pens like the Bamboo is, since they are better for sketching and natural handwriting. I wonder if such pens have issues with Prime (they work perfectly on iPad 2 which reacts very well to light brushes).
The cosmonaut and the rocket fish are both air pad type
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The cosmonaut and the rocket fish are both air pad type
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Great! Do let us know how they perform, it will play a huge role in my decision whether to buy the device or not.
I hope it works well with my Jot Pro stylus, too. It's really nice on a borrowed iPad 2.
my jot pro is coming today so i can report back then.
but as another poster said, some times selecting items seems to take a harder press than my xoom did but scroll in the opera browser is almost too senstive.. the slightest touch scrolls the browser..
i think you will be fine with your pen.
My touch screen is very responsive I feel no need for a stylus but it wouldn't hurt
I don't have a pen device, but can give a point of comparison...
The touch screen on the Prime is much less sensitive than the one on my Xoom. I wouldn't call it bad, but I definitely have to press harder to register inputs.
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my touchscreen seems very responsive. seeing this thread made me back out n test it again. on my prime, the slightest touch barely touching screen will have it scrolling up, down, left, or right very smoothly. I mean literally the slightest touch and the prime will react. I have a capacitve pen also that I used sometimes on my Ipad for drawing apps like Sketchbook n such. I can't remember the brand of pen. I think its the Targas one. I bought it at best buy when they had their sale on them for cheap. the end of pen is more like half a spongy rubber ball of sorts. if you press it too hard against screen it'll mash down end of tip. so end of my pen tip is not solid. more like hollow rubber end that flexes with pressure. I haven't tried it out on my prime yet. I will though after seeing this thread.
That's weird..Do someone have the original transformer and could give us a comparaison between it and the prime, maybe in a touch screen test apps (wich should not be limited in speed by the software optimisation)
I was looking forward to what Asus called a faster responding touch screen but it seems like they forgot about this one. Or maybe the xoom was very fast. Or it's a software thing or it needs more indepth test to tell
The thing is, I don't NEED a stylus but I'm using one to draw in sketchbook and it's already not always perfect on the Transformer (still good though) but I wouldn't want it to be even less sensitive. It's hard to draw correctly when you have to press the screen like a mad men.
When I first got my prime, I had issues with the touch screen. Typing was especially a pain because it wasn't recognizing key presses. I then used the cleaning cloth that it came with and cleaned the screen really well. Since then I've had no problems.
I'm guessing that the protective plastic left a film.
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When I first got my prime, I had issues with the touch screen. Typing was especially a pain because it wasn't recognizing key presses. I then used the cleaning cloth that it came with and cleaned the screen really well. Since then I've had no problems.
I'm guessing that the protective plastic left a film.
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The firmware updates helped alot too
The cosmonaut words terribly with the prime.
The rockfish works pretty good when writing, but for delicate touches when drawing it its a bit jittery. Looks like I'm making dotted line instead of solid lines. Needs a fair amount of pressure, but not super hard.
However when using fingers to draw even light touches work great.
Waiting on funds to get a adonit jot pro bc I hear that is the best stylus
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So I bought the C-Pen but for me it's horrible. The lines aren't nearly as accurate when done with my finger and sometimes it doesn't register at all. Anyone else having this?
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So I bought the C-Pen but for me it's horrible. The lines aren't nearly as accurate when done with my finger and sometimes it doesn't register at all. Anyone else having this?
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Returned mine the same day I received it. A cheap pen from ebay, worked much better and without missed clicks. Wasn't expecting this really. In addition, the c-pen didn't work on the capasitive buttons. The cheap one did.
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Returned mine the same day I received it. A cheap pen from ebay, worked much better and without missed clicks. Wasn't expecting this really. In addition, the c-pen didn't work on the capasitive buttons. The cheap one did.
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Was it like really inaccurate for you too? If I drew a pretty straight the line, it would almost always come out all wobbly. Then when I drew with my finger the line would be all smooth. And on some points on the screen I couldn't even draw at all sometimes.
I am without a doubt going to send it back. Really ****ty product
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The problem is that capacitive screens only have spots they react on, not every single location. So the pen has to have a large enough tip to cover at least one such spot under all conditions; something which is always given when using your finger.
(In fact your finger usually covers multiple spots)
These spots don't really allow for smooth transition in e.g. diagonals.
The cheap pens off eBay have a larger tip which covers multiple spots (like your finger) and work thus better.
On older screens or elder tablets (e.g. the Wetab) they are still unusable and will result in the same issues you're having with the c-Pen since those screens have even larger gaps between the spots.
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The problem is that capacitive screens only have spots they react on, not every single location. So the pen has to have a large enough tip to cover at least one such spot under all conditions; something which is always given when using your finger.
(In fact your finger usually covers multiple spots)
These spots don't really allow for smooth transition in e.g. diagonals.
The cheap pens off eBay have a larger tip which covers multiple spots (like your finger) and work thus better.
On older screens or elder tablets (e.g. the Wetab) they are still unusable and will result in the same issues you're having with the c-Pen since those screens have even larger gaps between the spots.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Actually I could draw a straight line with it just fine but at the upper part of the screen it became unresponsive and really annoying to use.
Can't comprehend how such a product could be advertised as "exclusively optimised for S3".
Oh no.. I placed order few days ago!
I've been researching this C-Pen to decide if I wanted one. What I read on Amazon.com is that it seems to work ONLY on an S lll. Does not work on other tablets or phones. Now, I wanted to be able to use a pen on a tablet I have so I figured this was a negative for this particular pen.
If it doesn't even work well on the S lll what is the problem? (rhetorical question). My main interest in using a pen was not as a substitute for my finger but to actually use the S Memo for sketches.
it seems to me this technology is not yet sophisticated enough for prime time.
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The problem is that capacitive screens only have spots they react on, not every single location. So the pen has to have a large enough tip to cover at least one such spot under all conditions; something which is always given when using your finger.
(In fact your finger usually covers multiple spots)
These spots don't really allow for smooth transition in e.g. diagonals.
The cheap pens off eBay have a larger tip which covers multiple spots (like your finger) and work thus better.
On older screens or elder tablets (e.g. the Wetab) they are still unusable and will result in the same issues you're having with the c-Pen since those screens have even larger gaps between the spots.
Really?
Then how does cheap pen from ebay which has almost same surface are on the tip works smooth.
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I've read in other forums that the Wacom Bamboo Feel (CS300UK) line of stylus's do not line up correctly, with the tip being offset by 1/8th of an inch or more, which is really maddening when you're trying to do some detailed art. In the Note 10.1 2014 forum there's a thread devoted to how many of these stylus's suck and are offset, including the CS300UK2, which people still aren't sure of if it's a new version or a different region product code of the same pen. Whichever it is, this is about the easy to get Best Buy and Amazon sold version, CS300UK.
Still, after reading all of that, I gave it a shot and it really was crap. Way offset! I was about to return it, when I decided to get out the X-acto blade and see what I could do.
I've attached a finished version of what my pen looks like now. Not the prettiest thing, but it lines up perfectly for me now and took WAY less time to do than it did for me to write all this out. haha
1- Pull out the nib that's currently in the pen.
2- Whittle down the tip of the pen until you start to see the first bit of innards in it. With my X-acto, it was really easy to cut, not a hard plastic at all.
In the image attached, you can see a small black circle inside the cut grey part. That is where I've decided to stop. Not sure what it does but looks like it shouldn't be sliced up...
3- Trim the nib. I've labeled in the image the bit of nib that I trimmed. This was photographed on the top of the back of the Bamboo nib box so you can see the size, but it is a small amount, like 1/8 of an inch or so. With your basic nail clippers, I clipped it from the "bottom" of the nib, which is slightly less round than the top, but I doubt it matters which you clip.
So yeah, slip the nib back in the pen and you're done. It should be lined up.
The two photos on the right of the attached image show what it looks like held from the left and right at a pretty decent angle, my "natural" drawing angle. Basically spot on. Tested in a bunch of places around the tablet and it all matches up.
Good luck to anyone who tries this! Also, don't blame me if you screw up your pen.
Now, if only Wacom could put out a pen that is this little bit shorter for these newer Note's...
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Now, if only Wacom could put out a pen that is this little bit shorter for these newer Note's...
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Version 2 has been out for quite some time. (UK2 or UW2)
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
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wingdo said:
Version 2 has been out for quite some time. (UK2 or UW2)
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
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People are still experiencing an offset with that, as well. I browsed all through the 10.1 2014 thread about it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2484014
Specifically http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47180938&postcount=46 from a quick search in that thread.
As they're both Samsung products put out at about the same time, I am using the assumption that they will have similar tech when it comes to the digitizer and how it reacts to the Feel pens. The Note 3 will probably have that, too. Older digitizers might not do so good, though. haha
Here's a link where I screencapped someone's test video: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50693780&postcount=179
At least from the angle, there seems to be an offset from the UK2. He's on the line with the pen, but the drawn line is under that line.
I have the V2 and have no offset issues. From a screen shot taken from a side angle, yes there appears to be an offset, but the big question is "is there an offset from the eye position of the writer" not is there an offset for someone watching from the side. It's like looking at a speedometer from the driver's seat vs. the passenger seat. You will not get the same reading as you will from the other position.
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Some say they like it and others are still saying their V2's are off, but if you do have one that works properly and you're happy with it, that's all that matters.
Does the back of this pen work as an eraser?
I was finally able to test the wacom pen with eraser that came with my Toshiba laptop. No surprise, it has the same 2-3 mm offset when the pen is held at an angle. Too bad because it's nice to have the easy eraser which does work as expected. I'll probably end up ordering the big s-pen now...
Also, I did try adjusting the calibration screws under the button to no avail...
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I have this pen from a previous note and it does work well with no offset. The eraser works as well. It was only $29 the last time I bought it and now I see it listed alot more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...0862790937?pt=US_Styluses&hash=item35c07ea119
tonyz3 said:
I have this pen from a previous note and it does work well with no offset. The eraser works as well. It was only $29 the last time I bought it and now I see it listed alot more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...0862790937?pt=US_Styluses&hash=item35c07ea119
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Got mine on Amazon for $19.99.
ExtremeRyno said:
Got mine on Amazon for $19.99.
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Got mine for 15.99 on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...366?pt=US_Tablet_Styluses&hash=item2ece9d526e
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wingdo said:
Got mine for 15.99 on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...366?pt=US_Tablet_Styluses&hash=item2ece9d526e
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8.50 here can use promo code PAYDEALS to get about $1 off, I paid using amazon. http://www.paydeals.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Stylus-Eraser-Non-Retail/dp/B009QW3SGQ#.UxVAXPldXWg
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8.50 here can use promo code PAYDEALS to get about $1 off, I paid using amazon. http://www.paydeals.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Stylus-Eraser-Non-Retail/dp/B009QW3SGQ#.UxVAXPldXWg
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Got mine for $2 outside walmart from a guy in a black trench coat full of note accessories
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Stole mine.
Lost mine
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slackersink said:
I've read in other forums that the Wacom Bamboo Feel (CS300UK) line of stylus's do not line up correctly, with the tip being offset by 1/8th of an inch or more, which is really maddening when you're trying to do some detailed art. In the Note 10.1 2014 forum there's a thread devoted to how many of these stylus's suck and are offset, including the CS300UK2, which people still aren't sure of if it's a new version or a different region product code of the same pen. Whichever it is, this is about the easy to get Best Buy and Amazon sold version, CS300UK.
Still, after reading all of that, I gave it a shot and it really was crap. Way offset! I was about to return it, when I decided to get out the X-acto blade and see what I could do.
I've attached a finished version of what my pen looks like now. Not the prettiest thing, but it lines up perfectly for me now and took WAY less time to do than it did for me to write all this out. haha
1- Pull out the nib that's currently in the pen.
2- Whittle down the tip of the pen until you start to see the first bit of innards in it. With my X-acto, it was really easy to cut, not a hard plastic at all.
In the image attached, you can see a small black circle inside the cut grey part. That is where I've decided to stop. Not sure what it does but looks like it shouldn't be sliced up...
3- Trim the nib. I've labeled in the image the bit of nib that I trimmed. This was photographed on the top of the back of the Bamboo nib box so you can see the size, but it is a small amount, like 1/8 of an inch or so. With your basic nail clippers, I clipped it from the "bottom" of the nib, which is slightly less round than the top, but I doubt it matters which you clip.
So yeah, slip the nib back in the pen and you're done. It should be lined up.
The two photos on the right of the attached image show what it looks like held from the left and right at a pretty decent angle, my "natural" drawing angle. Basically spot on. Tested in a bunch of places around the tablet and it all matches up.
Good luck to anyone who tries this! Also, don't blame me if you screw up your pen.
Now, if only Wacom could put out a pen that is this little bit shorter for these newer Note's...
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WOW worked like a charm thanks for posting!! Just be careful how short you cut the nib I found I cut it too short and had to gradually adjust the length on the spare.
Thanks
No offset issues on mine...
But then I did manually adjust the potentiometers in the pen, as one should do with every Wacom pen by default...........
ShadowLea said:
No offset issues on mine...
But then I did manually adjust the potentiometers in the pen, as one should do with every Wacom pen by default...........
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Any chance you can share how to adjust the Bamboo? Wacom support told me it's a Samsung issue and very sporadic. I would appreciate the help so I don't have to return it.
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Earthdog said:
Any chance you can share how to adjust the Bamboo? Wacom support told me it's a Samsung issue and very sporadic. I would appreciate the help so I don't have to return it.
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Certainly!
There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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Certainly!
There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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Certainly!
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Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
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Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
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That's it
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That was very helpful, but still took a bit of fidgeting to get it off. For anyone trying it at home, here is a picture of the guts. The two tabs on the left click into rectangular hole.
My problem was that I tried to slide a blade along the edge and the cross piece would not let that happen. Perhaps the best way is to pry at the left 1/3 of the length and let the middle bulge up.
I just bought a note 12.2 but I want a stylus pen with eraser functionality so that I can avoid manually toggling the eraser. I know that it works on Samsung apps, sketchbook and other big name software. However, Amazon's question and answer does not make it very clear if it works on smaller 3rd party apps like Lecture Notes.
Can someone test their stylus eraser and see if it works on Lecture Notes (free trial)?
Here is the stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuin...d=1449214660&sr=8-1&keywords=stylus+note+12.2
Here is the specific app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotestrial&hl=en
Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Thanks. I think the programmer needs to program it with the API and the feature is not system wide. I'm very happy about this.
btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
poetryrocksalot said:
So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
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Yes, I think it's qicker anyway
This pen might work with squid.
Such a shame that one note is so crap on Android.
DarkManX4lf said:
This pen might work with squid.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
zipsomic said:
I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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There are no reviews on the Lenova pen, so I didn't buy it.
zipsomic said:
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
The NotePro (All versions) have a sensitivity of 1024 levels. The only part of the pens that matter in terms of sensitivity is what they support. (A pen that supports, say, 500 levels, will never offer 1024.)
All Wacom pens support at least 1024 levels.
The Lenovo pen also supports 1024 levels.
Both pens have the exact same sensitivity level on this device.
Obviously the Wacom pen is designed specifically for Note devices as both the pen and the sensors are made by Wacom, whereas the Lenovo is not. I can't say if that affects usability, as I haven't tried the Lenovo pen.
Mind you, I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
I've been a Wacom (Intuos and Cintiq) user for years, So yea, I'm a bit biased. :laugh: I stuck with the brand I know. (Wacom is the professional brand for digital artists, from amateurs to Hollywood).
ShadowLea said:
You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
zipsomic said:
Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Well, I'm not really an expert.:laugh: I've just got a bit of experience with wacom's tech, and an unhealthy habit of wanting to know how everything works. :laugh:
That's actually ridiculously simple once you realize it. There is a difference in the various nibs (the tips), which affect the result when drawing, as well as 'paper'resistance on the screen. I don't know precisely which nibs came with which pen, but they vary in size, material and effect. I think the Bamboo Smart came with two different types of tips, which can be swapped. (That's what that silly piece of metal that looks like a weird pincer is for.)
Also, the driver on the tab is configured for Wacom pens. As such, the result with a non-Wacom pen can be a little lacking in finesse. Then again, thicker isn't always an advantage when you're sketching, but for non-precise tasks a more 'solid' line might be more preferable.
got it
Thanks for useful information, ShadowLea
ShadowLea said:
I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
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Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
marcio.mg said:
Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
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I've got the CS-400. There is only one version of the Carbon, as far as I'm aware.
It did have an offset at the beginning, had to recalibrate it. Mind you, it will always have an offset when held at an angle. The sensors work in a straight line. 1mm is fairly normal at 45º. (Also, that way you can see what you're drawing.)
The guide as to how to do that is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
(I'll quote it here)
ShadowLea said:
There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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I have that samsung spen with eraser and use it every day with LectureNotes. The eraser and side button both work beautifully with LectureNotes. Actually, LN allows you to customize the behavior of the eraser and the side button independently.
The stock s-pen has pretty decent eraser functionality via the button on the side in some apps like Squid. Squid really is fantastic -- I've used it for class notes for more than a year and a half now.
I have this stylus and the eraser works on Squid and LectureNotes