Sorry guys, my google and xda-fu do not seem to be up to snuff today. So here is my question(s):
I have a photon, rooted, unlocked and running the KDDI radio which works on tmobile and sprint, but i still have it on 2.3.4. Is there a way to update it to 2.3.5? I keep reading 2.3.5 will kill unlocking, but root still seems possible. Also does anyone have a thread where either the OTA or the ROM can be found (not the locked bootstrap version)
Update on 2.3.5. change log: http://mrlarge.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/sprint-motorola-photon-4g-receives-ota-update-2-3-5/
Lastly, does 2.3.5 add anything worthwhile? still have not found a change log on that either.
Like i said guys, my google-fu is low on chi today. Thanks in advance though :highfive:
scoobdude said:
Sorry guys, my google and xda-fu do not seem to be up to snuff today. So here is my question(s):
I have a photon, rooted, unlocked and running the KDDI radio which works on tmobile and sprint, but i still have it on 2.3.4. Is there a way to update it to 2.3.5? I keep reading 2.3.5 will kill unlocking, but root still seems possible. Also does anyone have a thread where either the OTA or the ROM can be found (not the locked bootstrap version)
Update on 2.3.5. change log: http://mrlarge.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/sprint-motorola-photon-4g-receives-ota-update-2-3-5/
Lastly, does 2.3.5 add anything worthwhile? still have not found a change log on that either.
Like i said guys, my google-fu is low on chi today. Thanks in advance though :highfive:
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IMHO, Motorola put out 2.3.5 for the sole purpose of locking the bootloader. There is nothing in 2.3.5 to make it worth "upgrading" from 2.3.4.
I recommend staying on 2.3.4.
Although the bootloader is locked, you can root 2.3.5.
If you flash mof's 2.3.5ish locked rom you will have all of the benefits of 2.3.5 without permalocking your bootloader. It's the most recent of the locked rom and IMHO the best option for locked people.
If you don't have 4G wimax anywhere nearby I would recommend unlocking that bootloader and trying one of the jb roms that th3bill has been cranking out
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If you flash mof's 2.3.5ish locked rom you will have all of the benefits of 2.3.5 without permalocking your bootloader. It's the most recent of the locked rom and IMHO the best option for locked people.
If you don't have 4G wimax anywhere nearby I would recommend unlocking that bootloader and trying one of the jb roms that th3bill has been cranking out
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Can you do that on 2.3.5?
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Can you do that on 2.3.5?
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As far as I know, you can. Just root your phone and install bootstrap. The only thing the 2.3.5 update locked down is the bootloader so you should be good to go
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once the MOF has been installed, would it be possible to use this? http://www.ibtimes.com/how-install-...oton-4g-using-custom-firmware-tutorial-939294
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once the MOF has been installed, would it be possible to use this? http://www.ibtimes.com/how-install-...oton-4g-using-custom-firmware-tutorial-939294
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You need a unlocked bootloader to install clockworkmod-recovery.
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I've recently moved from an Evo 3D to a MoPho. I couldn't stand the overly bloated sense and there was a serious lack of stable aosp roms on it. Im not concerned about how to root the photon because there's plenty of guides to do it on here.
I've previously never owned a Motorola phone, always htc or samsung. So im not use to the methods of rooting.
My point is I currently have a MoPho with 45.2.1.MB855.Sprint.en.US. I get prompted for an ota update. I want the most current radios and to able to have root. It was a pain to flash kernels and roms on the 3D with the latest bootloader. If I ota to the lastest will I still be able to have root, or is it better to do it now while I have a downgraded version, and if I do root on the downgraded version could someone lead me to the links where to find the latest radios. I have no luck.
Thanks in advance.
You can ota to latest version and still root. I'm on 45.3.6 and used a well known method currently in use on the forum: aio
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I've recently moved from an Evo 3D to a MoPho. I couldn't stand the overly bloated sense and there was a serious lack of stable aosp roms on it. Im not concerned about how to root the photon because there's plenty of guides to do it on here.
I've previously never owned a Motorola phone, always htc or samsung. So im not use to the methods of rooting.
My point is I currently have a MoPho with 45.2.1.MB855.Sprint.en.US. I get prompted for an ota update. I want the most current radios and to able to have root. It was a pain to flash kernels and roms on the 3D with the latest bootloader. If I ota to the lastest will I still be able to have root, or is it better to do it now while I have a downgraded version, and if I do root on the downgraded version could someone lead me to the links where to find the latest radios. I have no luck.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got my MoPho also. I'm on 45.3.6 and had no problem rooting with the AIO method.
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Thanks for the tip guys, my phone is now rooted
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Thanks for the tip guys, my phone is now rooted
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Congrats!
You now have a decision to make: stay where you are or proceed with unlocking to be able to flash a custom ROM. I too came from an EVO and had only had HTC phones prior. It's way different here. You should be able to figure out out, there are some good threads around. Just know that you'll lose 4G if you unlock. That's not an issue for a lot of folks, though.
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Yea I've noticed. I want to unlock the bootloader. Not so much into the roms as I am into the kernels.
Do you lose 4g just for rooting or is this if you flash a new ROM?
Unlocking the bootloader kills 4g. Unlocking is the first step to installing a custom rom.
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So I finally rooted my Electrify(photon), I have insurance and **** and i've taken my phone scuba diving so I really dont care if I brick it at this point(just a reason for me to get a new phone).
Basically my question is, How can i go about getting an aftermarket ICS on it? I can use cynagon right? Someone link me please...? Can I use this? If so, What exactly is unlocking the bootloader?
Im still new at all the terminology, it's been forever since i've been in the Android dev scene....
Thanks a ton XDA!
-Chris
To flash CM9, or any unlocked ROM you need to install a custom recovery, usually clockworkmod. Idr about the electrify, but for the photon you need to flash the pudding unlocked file and run a few CMD lines in order to unlock the bootloader(kills 4g btw) and then you can install a custom recovery and be ready to flash unlocked ROMS. (same general process for electrifiy but iirc different files)IF you are on Android 2.3.5 your SOL.. For the time being atleast as you can't unlock its bootloader. QBKing has a few videos about the Photon on how to unlock, install CWM, and flash ROMS. There REALLY useful for beginners and people who need to be refreshed on what exactly to do. Don't quote me on the exact steps as I have a Photon and never looked too in depth about the electrify, wait for someone else to chime in to verify or search around.
You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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My understanding is this...
Photon and Electrify 2.3.4 can unlock the bootloader.
Photon 2.3.5 can run something called bootstrap. (There is no legit Photon 2.3.5 from Sprint, but some bleeding-edge MoPho's have flashed 2.3.5 anyway and found themselves in a world of pain.)
Electrify 2.3.5 can do neither. I asked about it here and as of now 143 people have looked at it but haven't replied... Then again, it's the weekend, but I also asked in a topic about the bootstrap a week ago, and nobody there knew either.
So I think with Electrify 2.3.5 rooting is all you can do.
And that's fine, Electrify is beast anyway.
We're supposed to get official ICS in Q2 2012 (or was it Q3?). I don't know fiscal quarters, but Q1 starts in Spring, I think, so I guess summer or late summer?
I don't care about ICS and I don't see why I should. I change launchers weekly and I'm always rotating software on my phone. I'm more interested in getting the bootloader unlocked, but I don't think Motorola has any plans for that.
While it's true you can't unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 yet, that means that you can't flash kernels and some roms. There are some that work with a locked bootloader. Loki has an Imperium version. Rocko has some versions for locked phones. And there is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259 from loki. It will strip the bloat and blur from your phone, and give it some tweaks. This with the launcher of your choice makes for a great phone.
Exactly what post above said. I'll just add on saying that without an unlocked bootloader there is no way to get ICS. Use locked roms and try different launchers and you can still have a sweet phone until official ics or we unlock 2.3.5
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What is blur and bloat?? And what ROM is best..? As far as locked boot loaders go...
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Crispy, Blur is Motorola's enhancement suite for Android. It contains Motorola Home, and all the Motorola apps like the gallery, music player, and widgets. And the stupid lock screen. (I hate Motorola's lock screen. A lot.) HTC's is called Sense and Samsung's is called TouchWiz. They all have one. Very few Android phones are straight-up Android.
Bloat is anything on top of AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and the Google apps. This includes Blur/Sense/TouchWiz, technically, though most don't consider those bloat. If you have US Cellular, City ID is the epitome of bloat. It doesn't work as advertised, it's always there, and it will nag you to pay for it sometimes. Bloat on US Cellular phones also includes Tone Room Deluxe, Your Navigator Deluxe, My Contacts Backup, and the QuickOffice demo. Sprint has a whole other set of bloat apps.
Bricky -- So I don't need bootstrap? Or I do?
Crispy again: On your home screen, hit Menu, Settings, and then About Phone. Near the bottom look for "Android version". If it says 2.3.4 below, you can unlock your bootloader. If it says 2.3.5, you cannot.
I know ha, and I'm on 2.3.5 just like youuu:/ but it appears that there are like someee rom's that can be used without unlocking the bootloader...
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Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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You need an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER to install a ROM my friend....There are a few decent ROM's that dont require an UL loader, but to get a really nice ROM an unlocked bootloader appears to be greatly needed. I really wish Moto wasn't such a giant douche.
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You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Yes, I ment bootstrap.
Also, how does nandroid backups work? Does it backup EVERYTHING? whats the difference in outcome with Titanium backup VS recovery nandroid backups...?
i really want ics on my electrify.. but i ve a electgrify 2.3.5 with locked bootloader..
is it possible to do it?
I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
Universal DeBlur-DeBloat Live ROM Conversion is the only ROM that requires root ONLY. It was written to help those that can't even run bootstrap. Think of it as Imperium Initiative without the theme change and custom kernel.
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I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
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ICS is official announcied from motorola to moto electrify?
No, only Photon.
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No, only Photon.
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it s a bad notice :S
developers are working to unlock the BL of lectrify
I will try to compile bootstrap flashable stock roms for all builds here. Should be used for returning to stock after flashing any other locked rom or if you made system changes with the rom tool box or any other similar app and are not sure how to return.
Standard If You Brick Your Phone I Am Not Responsible.
Instructions
- BACK UP YOUR DATA. THIS WILL WIPE THE DATA PARTITION!!!!!!!
- Place zip in internal storage
- Flash via Bootstrap
This does not contain any bootloaders, kernels or cdrom images just the system partition.
After Flashing if you want to remove root use the Photon-Torpedo Direct Method's root cleaner function.
Photon
2.3.5. Photon 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13
Electrify
2.3.5. Electrify 4.5.1A_SUN_USC_19.0
Thanks. It works nicely.
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Thank you very much. helped get my photon back to semi-official state. now i'm just waiting for a bootloader unlock.
What if I flash over 198_7?
I prefer only stock?
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If you mean flashing this over 198_7 youll have to flash the modules from the 198_7 or you will have communication problems.
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diomsidney said:
Thank you very much. helped get my photon back to semi-official state. now i'm just waiting for a bootloader unlock.
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Glad it helped.
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If you mean flashing this over 198_7 youll have to flash the modules from the 198_7 or you will have communication problems.
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Where can I get these modules... or can you make it for stock users..?
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Thanks for this! I know my girl will very much appreciate it lol.
Before I had really got into flashing ROMs, I had her device and updated it to the first Moto Soak test. I had also made some minor tweaks/customizations that I wasn't able to reverse either lol. Now that this is available, I can FINALLY bring her completely back to stock 2.3.5!
When I get around to it, I'll let ya'll know how it turns out
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Where can I get these modules... or can you make it for stock users..?
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I will be updating the 2.3.5.ish as well to the new build for those on 198_7 or lower.
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I will be updating the 2.3.5.ish as well to the new build for those on 198_7 or lower.
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Thanks...
Make it full blur like stock... intact..
BTW why we can't use 2.3.5 kernel or other things except bootloader..?
i Don't know too much about Linux..
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matriX1218 said:
Thanks...
Make it full blur like stock... intact..
BTW why we can't use 2.3.5 kernel or other things except bootloader..?
i Don't know too much about Linux..
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If your on locked 198_7 your running the 2.3.4. kernel. the 2.3.4. bootloader locked will refuse any other kernel than the 2.3.4. unless your unlocked.
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If your on locked 198_7 your running the 2.3.4. kernel. the 2.3.4. bootloader locked will refuse any other kernel than the 2.3.4. unless your unlocked.
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It was so simple answer... thanks. Now I understand...
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So I should have no problems flashing this directly from MOF2.3.5ish v1.4, right?
Airwolf79 said:
So I should have no problems flashing this directly from MOF2.3.5ish v1.4, right?
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If your running 2.3.4. 198_7 or lower and flash this you may have connection problems.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is your MOF2.3.5ish build based on the 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13 build? Does that mean I CAN flash this to get back to stock and not expect connection problems? I'm a rookie.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is your MOF2.3.5ish build based on the 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_13 build? Does that mean I CAN flash this to get back to stock and not expect connection problems? I'm a rookie.
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MOF 2.3.5.ish is based on 2.3.5. 4.5.1A-1_SUN-254_12 but the modules have been replaced to work with a 2.3.4. kernel. So if you have a 2.3.4. kernel and flash this you will have connesction issues. I will be posting a stock 198_7 or 198_6 stock rom soon.
Ok, well I'm locked and came from 2.3.4 to MOF2.3.5ish, so I assume I still have the 2.3.4 kernel.
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Ok, well I'm locked and came from 2.3.4 to MOF2.3.5ish, so I assume I still have the 2.3.4 kernel.
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Correct. Are you able to Unlock?
I want to unlock, but I'm still trying to learn how to do it on a Mac. There's not a lot of info out there, and I can't brick this phone cuz I need it for work, so I just wanna make sure I know enough before I tackle it.
I am on locked 254_13 with 2.3.5. I just want to know can i install custom rom after installing this one or any other way to get unlocked ...
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Unlocking a stock USCC Electrify tonight using Pudding.
Plan on installing CWM or TWRP (after doing more research or heeding advice).
Not many ROMs say Electrify compatibility is included. Is anyone having any luck flashing these to their Electrify? Is there a universal conversion zip a la the ones used in the D2/DX days?
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Unlocking a stock USCC Electrify tonight using Pudding.
Plan on installing CWM or TWRP (after doing more research or heeding advice).
Not many ROMs say Electrify compatibility is included. Is anyone having any luck flashing these to their Electrify? Is there a universal conversion zip a la the ones used in the D2/DX days?
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it's the same phone minus 4g. everything is compatible with one another. no mods needed. just flash away.
be sure to flash this for eri/roaming fix. it's recommended.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675772
you can also check out my site below for some electrify info.
good luck on unlocking. not many people have an electrify that they can unlock.
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it's the same phone minus 4g. everything is compatible with one another. no mods needed. just flash away.
be sure to flash this for eri/roaming fix. it's recommended.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675772
you can also check out my site below for some electrify info.
good luck on unlocking. not many people have an electrify that they can unlock.
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Thanks for the tips, this is exactly what I figured!
I'm not to nervous about the unlocking process, and I know the device I'll be working with this evening is a completely bone stock 2.3.5 USCC device which appears (from my limited reading) to have the best of chances. Any further tips I should know before this? I'm no novice, so feel free to talk as high level as you want.
And your site looks extremely helpful. I'll read through it in it's entirety by the time I attempt the procedure tonight. Thanks for the heads up!
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And your site looks extremely helpful. I'll read through it in it's entirety by the time I attempt the procedure tonight. Thanks for the heads up!
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well 2.3.4 is fully unlockable. 2.3.5 is only unlockable if you have a device that was shipped with 2.3.5. if it was updated or flashed to it you will not be able to unlock it. it's basically permanently locked. no way around it.
good luck!
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well 2.3.4 is fully unlockable. 2.3.5 is only unlockable if you have a device that was shipped with 2.3.5. if it was updated or flashed to it you will not be able to unlock it. it's basically permanently locked. no way around it.
good luck!
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Wait, 2.3.5 is unlockable if the phone came with it? Has this always been the case? Did I miss a memo?
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Wait, 2.3.5 is unlockable if the phone came with it? Has this always been the case? Did I miss a memo?
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this has always been the case for the electrify. not the photon.
i don't know what took so long for the photon users to get 2.3.5 but the electrify has had it since nov/dec.
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Wait, 2.3.5 is unlockable if the phone came with it? Has this always been the case? Did I miss a memo?
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If the electrify is shipped with 2.3.5. Its sv1 so you can unlock it. But if it was updated via ota to 2.3.5. Then its sv2 and unlockable.
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If the electrify is shipped with 2.3.5. Its sv1 so you can unlock it. But if it was updated via ota to 2.3.5. Then its sv2 and unlockable.
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Is there a quick way to check the SV level? I assume it might tell me in the bootloader itself?
And thanks for the tips and help again to everyone, very helpful.
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Is there a quick way to check the SV level? I assume it might tell me in the bootloader itself?
And thanks for the tips and help again to everyone, very helpful.
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IIRC, it will error out, harming nothing, if it can't be unlocked. That's what it says in the instructions I received, though.
My Electrify was shipped with 2.3.5, and I'm running Jelly Bean now. I've flashed more ROMs than I can count in the last week alone.
As for the boot loaders (recoveries), CWM-Recovery that comes with the Electrify.zip unlock pack is the same as Joker's v3, and is your standard text-based, no-touch recovery. You navigate with volume and Power is your Enter. TWRP is all-touch, nice as hell. Both should work for you. TWRP is just nicer looking.
Hello.
I just got my hands on a Photon 4G.
I'm looking for alternative rom to stock.
However, I noticed that all roms have no 4G wimax. Is that correct? Or, I'm not looking hard enough.
Thank you.
To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
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To flash most ROMs you need to unlock your bootloader, flashing a new bootloader breaks 4G.
But you might not have to worry about that, what's your android version number 2.3.4 or 2.3.5?
If you updated your phone to 2.3.5 OTA, that'll lock the bootloader permanently.
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I did the 2.3.5 OTA.
So, therefore, no custom roms for me?
And, apparently, Sprint/Motorola will not be updating phone to ICS.
Pretty much, I'm out of luck?
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Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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Pretty much. I know there's locked ROMs but I'm not sure if there are 2.3.5 compatible
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I got tired of the OTA bugging me constantly, and was pretty sure I wasn't going to root again, because 1) I had Foxfi for WiFi tether and 2) none of the ROMS that DON'T break 4g were that interesting. So I downloaded it. But, I also fully expected to get ICS from Google, because they promised, on the official ICS upgrade list, that the Photon would be there. BUT, YET AGAIN, THEY LIED!
SO... I have an app that let me re-image my device back to pre-root before, and it was 2.3.4. Can I root, then re-image back to 2.3.4, then apply a ROM?
ALSO, I have heard of unlocking and re-locking the bootloader. Can I root, unlock the bootloader, ROM, then re-lock and restore 4g? If so, how?
And, with ALL the 4g WiMax out there, and so, little 3g even functioning these days, why can't anyone seem to not break WiMax when ROMing? I'm just asking, because I really don't know.
Thanks!
Re-locking your bootloader won't restore 4g. I don't have 4g in my area so haven't ever connected to it so not sure if its much faster. If you want to try custom a ROM then unlock and try it. Can always undo it. That's if you can actually get off 2.3.5