Hey yall I just wanted to start a discussion thread for T-Mobile like me who are braving T-Mobile's refarmed network and using the HTC One X+ (International or unlocked AT&T variant). Maybe we can get a few tips and tricks together to make our user experience a bit better.
For example, such radios yall are using, any build.prop edits that might help data speeds or GPS locking speed (if you are using the international version like I am).
Ill update the OP with the list of suggestions, maybe an FAQ.
I've been using the Phone Info app to turn off the LTE radio, although I'm not entirely sure that is does. I use the GSM auto mode which is the default on 3G non LTE phones. The default on the One X+ is GSM/WCDMA/LTE
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
cb474 said:
Is anyone experiencing weak or wavering 3G signal (over PCS) as discussed toward the end of this thread (scroll down about halfway on page three)?
http://forums.tmonews.com/index.php?topic=18318.40
The very knowledgeable posters there say that T-Mobile is using less power on PCS (WCDMA), as compared to AWS, right now. And probably won't turn it up until they start shifting AWS to LTE.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Definitely especially indoors. I get full bars of PCS where available, but indoors I'm switching between 3G/"4G" and Edge.
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Do you have a phone with AWS 3G to compare in the same location and see if it has better 3G reception?
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Yep, my Nexus 4 gets constant HSPA+ where I get spotty PCS
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
jd317 said:
I have a question for you guys that are using the HOX+ on T-mobile.
What type of sim card are you using?
I know that on the original HTC One X, you had to use a non-gba sim card that said 50.01 on the front to make it work, and that if you used the one that said 50.05 you wouldn't get data even if you change the APN settings.
I just bought this phone a few minutes ago on Amazon and I know Houston is a 1900MHZ pcs market so that's not an issue, i just want to make sure I don't run into any issues with the sim card I have as it is fairly new.
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Well I cut my sim from a regular SIM card so there aren't really numbers on it. I think you'll be safer with a newer one than an older one so you're fine.
Also located in Houston and getting pretty good 3G
I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
I believe one of the reasons TMO has to go with lower power at first is to measure the impact of their new 1900mhz spectrum usage in the existing market in question. Since other carriers are using the same spectrum they need to make sure they do not cause interference. The best way to do that is short and long term RF studies. Start off with a refarmed freq at lower power then over time bump up the power and make sure it doesnt cause any new interference. If so then your able to go to a higher power. Im sure the FCC has time constraints for this but add into it the amount of towers im sure the carrier would rather accomplish more with each visit. So if an upgrade or tweek is needed then they can also adjust the power.
Forgot to add i recently acquired the ATT version of the HTC ONE X+ 64GB and it does ok in the Dallas area. Had it switch a few times to G and E but for the most part i stays on 4G. HSPA+21.6 DL speeds go between 2megs down and 9 megs down.
Prior to that i was using a Nexus 4 and TMO GS3. I seem to have better speeds with my GS3.
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I tried to sign up over at tmonews forums and registration for new users is closed. Anybody have any insight as to when that will reopen?
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The forums have been like that for a while (at least months). Don't know why. Perhaps you can email the person who writes the blog and ask about it.
I live in the Orlando area, I am on Straight Talk. I was using an at&t compatible SIM from straight talk and got up to 7mb down and 1.5mb up but these speeds were not consistent, a few days ago I switched to a t -mobile compatible SIM from straight talk and now I get consistent 12mb down and 3mb up. I was very surprised! I'm so glad I did this switch
I am using an at&t 1X+ which I unlocked.
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All, nice threat. just got this phone and unlocked the bootloader today. how can i unlock the simcard to use on tmo? i know we have LTE here and I am dying to see what kind of speeds i can get on this phone. thanks all
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will the htc thunderbolt be fully flashable to cricket yes or no
I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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I'm sure there is a switch under the battery Criket<>Verizon ... I never got why you would pay 700 for a phone just to save 40 a month and not have 4g and have sub par service... but i'm sure someone will develop a criket rom like the did with the incredible but nothing special
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Because after 10 months that 40 turns into 400 and we just paid for the subsidy that ppl are paying for every month for 24 months(40 * 24 = $960) In comparison, after 24 months you get paid $260 for using it on a different network. Sub par service is a matter of opinion...no need to be rude about it, some ppl prefer a frugal alternative.
I guess the thought is that you could buy a cheaper device, and get just as good performance out of it because on Cricket you will never, ever, see any of the 4G speeds that we see.
This thing gets downloads that are consistently as fast as my Home Comcast (15mbps). I have seen some speeds that are double 30+mbps.
I guess what the other poster is thinking is that you could buy a droid 2 or a droid X and basically get the same results. Outside of the 4G LTE speeds, this device is nothing more than a MT4G or Desire HD (same internals). You wouldn't have to spend the extra money for a 4G phone that you will never utilize.
I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
I have no idea what frequency Cricket would use, but keep in mind that metroPCS has 4G LTE as well and it is not at all compatible with Verizon 4G LTE. So it may be that the carriers try to distinguish themselves in the near future (especially from value based carriers) based on their phones not being compatible with other networks.
This would have the effect of making you go with one of the Big 3(?) carriers if you wanted a quality smartphone, or pick an inferior or entry level device and go with a prepaid carrier.
Yeah, I know metro's is different, but I was thinking that, which I could be remembering wrong, that LS's LTE service was going to be the same 700mhz. Like I said, I could be wrong. This is just what I vaguely remember.
When cricket starts using sim cards to register devices
Yes that's right the sim card is like those from other networks, doubt it will work
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Been an At&t user since forever. Service is good enough in Savannah and the job pays for it so I haven't had an argument to switch. So, SIM cards in phones have always been the norm. Could switch out my Nokia, Palm, iPhone whenever.
So forgive my ignorance when I ask what the significance of sims appearing in Cricket phones to being able to use the Thunderbolt? I currently use a Huawei on Cricket to play with and it doesn't have a sim. I've seen a Droid X also on Cricket and I don't know whether it has a sim or not.
Personally I wouldnt use a DX or TB on Cricket but for $55 a month (unlimited everything) it's an attractive offer.
Btw, the Huawei is Z4 rooted and has 2.2.1, which ruins the Wifi. But Wifi tethering works great. About 1mb u/d, but worthwhile. My iP4 gets 3+mb down and 1+mb up on 3G even with MyWi. When 4G LTE comes here with big red then I'll probably switch. I looking forward to a 4.3 screen and 2.3GB
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I thought that cricket was signing up for Lightsquared's LTE service? Which I would assume would be the same 700 Mhz our devices run on? I could be wrong, but if cricket did this it seems like it wouldn't be a terrible deal and as op said, he would still save money and actually be able to utilize the service. I doubt they would have the coverage we will, but don't denigrate the dude. He did nothing wrong asked a relevant question. Sorry, this was more directed at two_cents.
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I think you are mixing up Cricket for Metro PCS.
also the 700Mhz band is verizons if I am not mistaken, so the band will be different for Lightsquared's LTE unless them roam on verizons network.
No, I know metro has their own LTE service, that is not on the same bandwidth ours. Reading further into the lightsquared's frequency range they are on three bands. 1.4 1.6 and 2.0. So, yes I was wrong about it about the TB working on crickets network if they partnered with LS, but I wasn't talking about MPCS. I thought that I had saw where LS was running on the 700 mhz band with VZW. Not sure where I pulled that one out of thin air from, because apparently I was way off. Here's where I got my new info.http://www.dailywireless.org/2010/07/20/lightsquared-announces-lte-network/
MPCS runs on the 1700 mhz band.
ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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ok, I may have to scrap this whole post. We will just chalk it up to the fact I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
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haha it happens brah, no biggie.
Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Since no one has yet answer the original question... I'm a professional cell phone tech normally all Verizon phones can be flashed to cricket HOWEVER Verizon has decided to use identification cards similar to Sim cards for their service starting with the thunderbolt and all future Verizon 4g phones. I have yet to attempt to flash a thunderbolt I will try Monday however I'm fairly confident without the id card it will not work on cricket. The card is what stores registration info for the network now VERY similar to a Sim. I'm doubting a flash will work but I will repost tomorrow with my results.
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Your correct there is no way to load a .prl on the phone without a sim unless theres another way. For the rest of the off topic posts you pay for what you get
Yeah, the SIM card makes this impossible at the moment.
possibly
Its possible because cricket will be getting 4G LTE sometime at the end of this year or early next. But it also depends if it works the same as Verizon's.
The Thunderbolt has officially been flashed to cricket with Talk and Text and hopefully data to come. I flashed it yesterday and i can make and recieve calls and texts atm so wish me luck to get data working
Crickets 4g is gonna be very limited they said they're basically making hotspot style 4g similar to att having wifi at starbucks
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Can u tell me how to connect it to qpst and enable the writing??? i have tried using qpst/cdmaws hell i even tried manual programming... but to no avail. if someone could just let me know whats up with this to get it connected... not looking to pay for the answer just need someone to help with this, everything else i can figure on my own... lol just need to write the prl first... thx...
Only if crickets 4G network is LTE
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There are a few topics on this question, but they are several months old now. I wanted to get an update on if anything has changed or if workarounds have been found or what not.
First, does anyone know if there are newer "versions" of the phone itself that might have fixed some issues afew topics have gone over? (light bleed, non working soft buttons, high heat ect..) and how to tell which one is the new version?
2nd How can you tell which Amaze will work and which one will not? I found this one.. Amaze on Amazon but the pic shows it with a T-mobile branding, which ive read doesn't work with 3/4g on AT&T.
So were (online) could you pick up one that would work with it, and how difficult is it to get it to work with it?
My current phone (the TP2) was just a matter of popping in the at&t card and going. Looks like the price has come down at least alittle bit, but im curious if it would be worth the effort to get the amaze and try to shimmy it on to AT&T, or wait for a newer phone.
[edit] On a side note, what is happening with the Amaze? Im noticing while the Sensation is still listed, HTC's site doesnt appear to show the Amaze at all, like it never existed.. are they trying to phase it out of existence?
The amaze, after being sim unlocked, does support at&t 3g/4G bands. It will have no problems running on at&t. I don't think that there have been any hardware revisions. So the flash bleed is just luck of the draw. My original didn't have it. My replacement does..
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The Amaze works just fine on AT&T's high-speed 3/4g UMTS/HSPDA+ data bands. It will not work on AT&T's newer LTE services -- which aren't necessarily any faster in real life than their non-LTE service, and AT&T's LTE network is still being built.
At some point AT&T may shut down the UMTS/HSPDA+ service but they've got an awful lot of phones in the field already using it.
Regarding word that the Amaze will be discontinued, the very fact that this phone launched during while the AT&T/T-mo merger was "coming" seems likely to have driven the decision to make it so it supported both AT&T & T-mo bands. Now that the merger is off, I wonder if T-Mo doesn't want a phone that might have the ability to roam onto AT&T's high-speed network. I don't know if it can roam this way, but I love the fact that this phone that can work really well, high-speed data and voice, with my choice of service by 2 U.S. carriers.
I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
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I got a used one on the forum. It's the T-mobile branded one works flawlessly with AT&T HSDPA after unlock. Speed test shows consistant 2.6-3.2 mbps download here in NYC area. Signal is strong and sound quality is great, best of all the phones I've had. (DHD sound quality being the 2nd best)
Unfortunately, the one I got had light bleed but it will only stand out if you are viewing something with dark background which is a rare case during my personal usage. Not sure if future kernel release can make the touch pad light dimmer or disable it completely.
Best phone I've used so far.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Congrats on the Amaze, as for the light bleed, the only way to fix it is to disable the light source. This can be done on rooted phones, a little searching will point you in the right direction if that is a solution. Otherwise there is little that can be don to dim the lights, kind of an all or nothing situation.
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Thanks for the tip. I do remember reading something about that that some where but never bothered me as much since I don't find myself staring at a black screen as much.
Another reason I got this phone besides its solid build is the worldwide 3g support. I get to travel to asia once a while and it can utilize the WCDMA used in many asia countries.
Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Thanks guys. Now im just curious if they still sell "un-branded" phones. As the one i linked appears to be T-mobile branded. Id work i guess, but you know
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Someone correct me if wrong, I think Canada carrier (Telus, Wind) do have unbranded Amaze. Without getting too technical, the telus one have the same 3g band as At&t and wind one has the same 3g band as T-mobile. Only the T-mobile branded ones can work with both.
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Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
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Kinda wrong.
All of the Amazes are Quad-band phones, but are sim-locked (carrier locked). If you unlock it, it can be used on either network.
If you don't unlock it, then only on the original network.
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what I was referring to was only the 3g connectivity.
Well, i dont have a 4g sim atm, but i did see if unlocked that its suppose to work with 4g?
Anyway that just leaves finding a trusted source to purchase it from.
I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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I am currently using it with AT&T here, 4g symbol showing. While I am not sure what's the standard used to measure the 4g speed but I feel it's much faster than my other sensation 4g phone.
Both phone are connected to the hsdpa network and speedtest consistently showing higher download speed than my sensation.
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You using the T-mobile Amaze unlocked with AT&T? Did you buy it unlocked or get it from the carrier and unlock it yourself?
Course im also pondering if its worth it to wait for a quad core phone that is supposedly coming this year? Who knows.
got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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got it on the forum, locked but the seller was kind enough to give me the unlock code. Everything is running fine. This is definitely the best phone used so far
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Ah. How would you compare it to your sensation? is there much of a difference between the two?
So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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acejavelin said:
So my contract is up in two days and I am looking at switching to a Net10 AT&T prepaid SIM service... Any real concerns or issues? I am on latest firmware and radios and running Infection 2.9.1 ROM.
Anybody doing this, comments or wish you had done it differently?
Probably going to pull the trigger in this today unless any red flags go up.
BTW, number porting is not an issue. I'm just going to move my VZW number to Google Voice once everything is working properly.
EDIT: ordered SIM and $50 unlimited card, should be here tomorrow. Hope all goes well...
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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To get 4g/3g I think your going to have to follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914122 Just in case you didn't know about it.
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I thought this wasn't necessary anymore with current radios and firmware?
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I think it is. I'm not 100% but I guess you'll see when you use your sim card.
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The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
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The Rezound out of the box supports the 900 MHz and 2100 MHz bands, which are used internationally for 3G and HSPA+. In the US, AT&T uses the 850 MHz and 1900 MHz bands, and T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz and 1900 MHz. The Rezound is great as a global phone, but it's always been limited to EDGE data in the US. This has never changed with firmware and radio updates.
The methods in the thread referenced earlier will let you get the 850 MHz band working with a very non-optimized, weak signal. That means you'll sometimes have 3G or HSPA+ on AT&T. But unless someone figures out how to optimize the signal there, you're probably still going to be stuck with EDGE most of the time.
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I don't think anyone is going to find a way to optimize it for a stable connection for a while. The thread has been very quiet for a while now. Some users did get different results and I read through the thread and some people got better signal using a calibrated sensation nv file.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Hmmm... Unfortunately it appears this isn't going to work as I hoped.
What's working: Voice and SMS out of the box... MMS, Data (2G Edge, speeds in the range of 15k to 50K) with some tweaking in the APN settings.
I tried the tweaks in the other thread and changing the NV settings, it would say it connected at HSPA+ and pull an IP address, but even with the AT&T tower less than a 1/2 mile in direct line of sight from my office window it would never open a web page or work with any app that required a network connection and signal strength was in the nether regions according to Network Signal Info.
Oh well... guess it was worth a shot.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Dang. You sure you didn't miss anything? Edge sucks reaaally bad. I know cause I have T-Mobile. Takes me 2 minutes to send a mms . Lol.
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Pretty sure I got everything right. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get everything to work on 2g , and I was able to pull an IP address when it said HSPA, I just couldn't stay connected or get any data through. Spent about 2 or 3 hours working on it this afternoon and finally gave up.
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That sucks man. Thanks for trying and posting your results though. I've been curious about doing this myself.
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I am now in search of an AT&T or other unlocked HSPA-capable Android smartphone, willing to trade my mint condition Rezound for it... Anyone can message me if interested in swapping a similar unit like SGS2 Skyrocket or HTC Vivid... Or perhaps I should just grab a 16GB Nexus 4 from Google?
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I've been saving up for the nexus 4 but they might release a new nexus device . If you're eager to get a device , I would get the nexus 4 plus you can do some stuff to enable the lte radio. hecks yeah.
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I switched carriers to cut costs and I live in central Seattle, so with the Tmobile Headquarters next door, I knew coverage wouldn't be an issue. I hear that Seattle is a "refarmed" area and that even non-tmobile phones can get "decent" speeds (obviously not the LTE, but some sort of 3G/4G)
Can someone knowledgeable on the subject tell me what I need to get my phone off of E and onto H?
EDIT: I think I may have got the right APN settings by changing from fast.tmobile to epc.tmobile. the speed seems faster, but it still shows E (which may just be a limitation of the handset not being able to distinguish the 1900 MHtz 2G and 3G. Or out could just be a placebo effect.
but now I found a different issue. I can't call/data simultaneously. if it's not one thing it's another. x_x
Any responses
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I switched carriers to cut costs and I live in central Seattle, so with the Tmobile Headquarters next door, I knew coverage wouldn't be an issue. I hear that Seattle is a "refarmed" area and that even non-tmobile phones can get "decent" speeds (obviously not the LTE, but some sort of 3G/4G)
Can someone knowledgeable on the subject tell me what I need to get my phone off of E and onto H?
EDIT: I think I may have got the right APN settings by changing from fast.tmobile to epc.tmobile. the speed seems faster, but it still shows E (which may just be a limitation of the handset not being able to distinguish the 1900 MHtz 2G and 3G. Or out could just be a placebo effect.
but now I found a different issue. I can't call/data simultaneously. if it's not one thing it's another. x_x
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Any responses on this one? I dont know if there is a radio.zip to be flashed on Verizon HTC ONE to work at better speeds than E(dge) which is only like 200KBPS download
Any DEVs, Senior Members who have toyed around?
Thanks in advance!!!!
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Any responses on this one? I dont know if there is a radio.zip to be flashed on Verizon HTC ONE to work at better speeds than E(dge) which is only like 200KBPS download
Any DEVs, Senior Members who have toyed around?
Thanks in advance!!!!
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Pretty much edge is all you can hope to get. the Verizon model does not transfer over to T Mobile really. T Mobile is GSM, Verizon is a CDMA world phone. Verizon simply does not support the bands that T Mobile uses for 3G with one exception, the only way you will get a 3G connection is if you live in an area where T Mobile has a refarmed its 1900 megahertz edge network.
Hello new to the HTC one here unlocked and rooted. I'm currently on the $30 plan with T-Mobile and applied the most current apn for LTE everything works except mms...if anyone know of a solution that'd be awesome I cannot get it to work.. This is the att One unlocked could that have any conflict?
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Got it working had to flash custom ROM. I'm assuming the stock at&t had something to do with MMS failure
If using T-Mobile...
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I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds.
Would I be able to get data inside buildings?
Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
tlxxxsracer said:
I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds. Would I be able to get data inside buildings? Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
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Here are three links (sort of cheat sheets) with some information that will help:
http://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-tell-if-a-phone-will-work-on-t-mobile.706991/
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2014/09/what-phone-works-with-which-operator.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/05/us-wireless-carrier-bands-gsm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
You should also check out http://www.willmyphonework.net/, and if you end up with the FDD + TDD LTE version, that helps reconfirm things will work because of the 1900 MHz coverage.
You asked specifically about getting data inside buildings. My understanding is that lower frequencies work better for indoor coverage because they can more easily pass through walls, but they do not have the best range. In turn, if you want better outdoor distance and range, then higher frequencies work better because they are less attenuated by the atmosphere. Somebody else more knowledgeable can comment on this. But in the long run, it will probably be about your local coverage, too. I.e. if you are generally close to cell towers, the indoor/outdoor factor might not make much of a difference. And if you can somehow manage wifi calling with T-Mobile, that might also minimize any potential issue.
I think wifi calling must be baked into the phone to use it, but I may be wrong about this.
Any US T-Mobile users that can confirm this either way?
I am waiting on a Prime model myself, and plan to use it with an AT&T mvno in the US. AT&T supposedly has 3G on both 850 and 1900 MHz so 3G should work no problem.
thanks for the response. Accoring to the willmyphonework site it will work on Tmobile with 3g.. So im guessing no HSPA or HSPA+ right? these bands/network/freq confuse me.
tlxxxsracer said:
thanks for the response. Accoring to the willmyphonework site it will work on Tmobile with 3g.. So im guessing no HSPA or HSPA+ right? these bands/network/freq confuse me.
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This phone should work with T-Mobile 3G, and also what T-Mobile calls 4G, but which is actually HSPA+, and thus, by the book is on 3G. Take a look at the AndroidForums link I sent above. Supposing that information is true, it says the following:
3G
The technology for 3G is called UMTS. T-Mobile uses two frequencies for their UMTS network: 1900MHz and 1700/2100MHz. So if you check your phone's specifications and see that it has either 1900MHz or 1700/2100MHz listed as one of the UMTS frequencies, then it will support T-Mobile's 3G network.
4G - HSPA+
T-Mobile did a bit of marketing on this one. What T-Mobile calls 4G can more accurately be called HSPA+. This is not really a new technology, rather, it's an upgrade of the 3G technology UMTS. Therefore, if your phone supports the UMTS frequencies 1900MHz or 1700/2100MHz, then we just need to check to see if the phone supports HSPA (slower) or HSPA+ (faster). If it does, then it will be compatible with T-Mobile's 4G network.
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The RN2 supports UMTS at 1900 MHz and HSPA+ so yes, you should be able to get HSPA+ service. HSPA+ is pretty speedy, and for my own use case, it is perfectly fine. Some people will want/need/demand LTE speeds (even though HSPA+ gets very close, and sometimes passes it...). But at least for my own use case, I don't plan to be downloading huge files, or streaming HD video when I am away from wifi coverage. So for me, data up to 3G/HSPA+ is fine. But you'll have to figure out if it is good enough for you.
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This phone should work with T-Mobile 3G, and also what T-Mobile calls 4G, but which is actually HSPA+, and thus, by the book is on 3G. Take a look at the AndroidForums link I sent above. Supposing that information is true, it says the following:
The RN2 supports UMTS at 1900 MHz and HSPA+ so yes, you should be able to get HSPA+ service. HSPA+ is pretty speedy, and for my own use case, it is perfectly fine. Some people will want/need/demand LTE speeds (even though HSPA+ gets very close, and sometimes passes it...). But at least for my own use case, I don't plan to be downloading huge files, or streaming HD video when I am away from wifi coverage. So for me, data up to 3G/HSPA+ is fine. But you'll have to figure out if it is good enough for you.
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This is good news thank you! I mostly stream music while driving or browse the web anyways..
Now to just sell my Samsung s6 to buy a RN2
tlxxxsracer said:
This is good news thank you! I mostly stream music while driving or browse the web anyways.. Now to just sell my Samsung s6 to buy a RN2
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tlxxxsracer, I'm always nervous to suggest something I cannot back up with my own firsthand experience. According to the information I pointed out, it seems like the RN2 should be able to use T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ service. But it would sure be nice to have an actual RN2 T-Mobile user out there confirm this. Are there any of you around?
Check out the Huawei ascend mate 7. It's a little more than the RN2, but is compatible with tmobile lte bands. I'm gonna purchase it here soon. Idk where u live, but I used tmobiles hspa, and got crappy service. Only like 5 down and .5 up. But switching to lte I'm getting like 45d and 8u. Huge difference lol.
HSPDA works on Tmobile
tlxxxsracer said:
I have T-mobile and im close to buying this phone. My worry is how well will data work in my area? The specs are great for the price
I know i wont get LTE speeds.
Would I be able to get data inside buildings?
Anyone have experience with this phone on t-mobile? Or any other xiaomi/chinese phone
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I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
jpkml said:
I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
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Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
jpkml said:
I was waiting for my phone to reply on this topic. I had lots of doubts about this issue, and finally bought Redmi Note 2. In the NY/NJ area, i am able to get HSPDA+ similar to my Nexus 4 (previous phone).
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Great, thanks for confirming this, jpkml!
tlxxxsracer said:
Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
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I got the Prime (32GB) version from merimobiles.com . The buying experience was good. If you plan on buying from them, signup for their emails, you get a $20 discount points. Create a new account and order via that account to get the status via their website. I forgot to do both these steps, and had to ping them everyday (5-6am EST ) to followup on my order. It will take a good 2-3 weeks to get the phone in your hands. I used Singapore post as my shipping option(extra $$), but they decided to send it via China Post epacket, which was pretty fast once EMS gets their hands on the package. It reached US within 3 days, but USPS/customs had it for a good 3 days after reaching our shore .
jpkml said:
I got the Prime (32GB) version from merimobiles.com . The buying experience was good. If you plan on buying from them, signup for their emails, you get a $20 discount points. Create a new account and order via that account to get the status via their website. I forgot to do both these steps, and had to ping them everyday (5-6am EST ) to followup on my order. It will take a good 2-3 weeks to get the phone in your hands. I used Singapore post as my shipping option(extra $$), but they decided to send it via China Post epacket, which was pretty fast once EMS gets their hands on the package. It reached US within 3 days, but USPS/customs had it for a good 3 days after reaching our shore .
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Good info, thanks and just found out it has 1yr warranty as well with option for $10 to buy 24month warranty.
Was there any import taxwith the singapore post option you selected?
I'll probably add shipping insurance too, just to be safe.
Did you check out with paypal? is there any protection from them in regards to shipping?
No import tax. ePackets is a sort of China Post & USPS offering. You can actually track the package using both their tracking system. I didn't get any insurance. The phone itself came nicely packaged in a bubble wrap. I did use paypal, but didn't check their shipping protection.
I also have T-Mobile and recently received my Redmi Note 2 16GB version from gearbest.com. Tried out a few different ROMs, both MIUI and AOSP. On MIUI, the network symbol shows an "H+" whenever I'm using data. On AOSP, only "3G" shows up top even though I have "4G Preferred" selected in network settings. Hope that helps!
Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
haywires said:
Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
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For the moment, this will not work on LTE using AT&T or T-Mobile as the RN2 does not have the correct band/frequency coverage. If somebody figures out how to hack the baseband and add the right coverage, and there is not an actual physical/hardware limitation, that could possibly open up LTE coverage in the future.
HSPA+ is quite fast, in fact, T-Mobile refers to it as "4G" (but not LTE). Some folks will want/demand LTE coverage, but depending on your use case, HSPA+ may be perfectly fine.
tlxxxsracer said:
Thanks i also spoke with Tmobile store rep, and they said it will work and that i should get 4g (hspa+) and showed a map of exact coverage the the frequencies in my area.
Where did you buy yours from?
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haywires said:
Friend bought me the Redmi Note 2 straight from China. I have AT&T. Took my SIM out of the IPhone 5S and stuck it in slot 2 SIM. You can't slide it in all the way in as the SIM is a little bit shorter than the slot, it only works if you don't slide it in all the way. I get the H+ for data too which I assume is 3G and my signal is fine. If anyone has an easy way to use the LTE please update!
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HSPA+ (H+) is similar to 3G, but is as fast as band B20 of LTE (the slowest LTE band)
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
Satenru said:
I also have T-Mobile and recently received my Redmi Note 2 16GB version from gearbest.com. Tried out a few different ROMs, both MIUI and AOSP. On MIUI, the network symbol shows an "H+" whenever I'm using data. On AOSP, only "3G" shows up top even though I have "4G Preferred" selected in network settings. Hope that helps!
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correct me if I'm wrong, but I think GearBest is one of those dealers who'd install custom ROM that gives a bunch of pop-ups on Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
felix168 said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but I think GearBest is one of those dealers who'd install custom ROM that gives a bunch of pop-ups on Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
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I don't know if it was a custom ROM but it did came with a bunch of bloat ware because I barely had any free space left so I just flashed TWRP and installed a fresh ROM over it.
I can confirm that the phone works on T-mobile HSPA+. I used it while visiting the US recently with a T-mobile MVNO (GoSmart).
I can also confirm that Gearbest ships the phone in an almost unusable state due to constant popups. Flashing new ROM is necessary.